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00:09.13lainlivesare there any wine bottlers that dont do 'all kinds of helpfull crap'
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00:41.27cornfeedhobohello, i am having a silly issue, maybe someone has a clever remedy.... I have setup two panels, one for each of my screens, and I have set their respective taskbars to only show windows within their desktop and screen. This works great until i maximumize a window, at which point, the program in question shows up on both taskbars...any ideas?
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00:41.49cornfeedhoboI thought about modifying xorg to allow for maybe a pixel or two between the two screens but i think that might be crazy
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00:44.46KimLarouxcornfeedhobo: sounds like a bug, have you tried searching for bug reports?
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00:47.18cornfeedhobonope
00:47.38cornfeedhoboi usually assume stuff like that would have been noticed, thus it was by design
00:47.45cornfeedhoboKimLaroux: ^
00:48.02KimLarouxbah not really
00:48.30KimLarouxIt's such thinking that makes those annoying bugs go unfixed for years
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00:50.23KimLarouxcornfeedhobo: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268259
00:50.48cornfeedhobodamn, that is some google-fu, i was having no luck
00:51.12KimLarouxI googled "kde bug maximized window show up in all taskbars across dekstop"
00:51.19KimLarouxit was 2nd result
00:51.35KimLarouxthe keywords here is "kde bug"
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00:52.00KimLarouxwithout those, google goes all retarded and gives you release notes and download pages
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00:53.00duncancmtHi! I'm finding it very obnoxious that Kmail always asks me if I want to paste a URL as an attachment or as text. How do I turn this off?
00:53.52KimLarouxcornfeedhobo: if you're not gonna report it, give me your info and I'll add a report to the bug
00:54.17cornfeedhoboKimLaroux: well that bug is certainly the same, i am adding my comment to it, just looking up my kde version now
00:54.26KimLarouxgreat
00:54.50KimLarouxalso, it may help to detail your configuration
00:55.01cornfeedhoboIndeed
00:59.00KimLarouxI'm curently suffering from a crippling bug that was reported across every single distro and environment as far back as 2009, and still nobody found the source
00:59.28KimLarouxthe mouse pointer gets stuck inside items
00:59.42cornfeedhobowhat?!
00:59.51KimLarouxit moves around, but the buttons are like stuck on a single point of the screen
00:59.57KimLarouxand it's random
01:00.17KimLarouxit happens without reason, it can take hours or seconds before it happens again
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01:00.44KimLarouxevery time it happens, I have to switch to a console and back to X
01:01.17KimLarouxI'll have to format and reinstall everything, see if it goes away
01:03.35Zero_Angelmaybe it happened because you were on meatspin too long
01:03.59Zero_Angelonce you pass 200 spins strange things start happening on your OS
01:04.34KimLarouxwhat are meatspins?
01:04.45Zero_Angelits the place where you get the spin on meat
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01:06.45Smakheh, I had to google "meatspin", now sorry I did so.
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01:08.51KimLarouxI did too, but the result page told me enough
01:08.57Zero_Angelokay, i guess i should warn everyone that it's a shock site
01:09.03Zero_Angeljust in case children are in the room
01:09.26KimLarouxnext time, just stfu instead :)
01:09.37Zero_Angelbut my method was much more fun
01:09.37Smakor that one of us is a child :)
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01:09.55duncancmtDoes anyone know how to get Kmail to stop asking me whether I want to paste a URL as text or attach it to my email?
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01:27.57cornfeedhoboalright, so it gets better... this does not happen with chrome
01:29.03cornfeedhobonvm, i take that back :-P
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01:35.55KimLarouxcornfeedhobo: try disabling desktop effects to full-screen windows
01:36.17KimLarouxhell, try disabling all of them see if it stops
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01:36.23KimLarouxalt+shift+f12
01:36.39KimLarouxwindow shadows may be to blame
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01:37.24cornfeedhoboi was thinking that too, but no luck
01:38.21cornfeedhobohahaha that did it, its something with effects
01:38.27KimLaroux=)
01:38.48cornfeedhobohey, turning effects on and off did it!!!!
01:38.56cornfeedhobooff then on **
01:39.03cornfeedhobowoot!
01:39.06KimLarouxturning them back on, it doesn't come back?
01:39.10cornfeedhobonope
01:39.13KimLarouxlol!
01:39.21KimLarouxI may come back next boot
01:39.23cornfeedhoboafter turning off fullscreen effects as well
01:39.23KimLarouxit*
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01:39.35cornfeedhoboi was thinking the same thing, i kinda want to test the theory
01:40.25cornfeedhobooh, wait, its back
01:40.59KimLaroux;)
01:41.23cornfeedhoboi am going to reboot
01:41.40KimLarouxyou can disable each effects individually in "Desktop Effects" settings
01:41.54KimLarouxyou may find the one responsible
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02:18.37cornfeedhoboyeah, no luck still
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02:25.18zmiscIs there any way I can use KDE 4.x without activities, and just have a normal desktop with icons?
02:27.50cornfeedhobozmisc: switch to folder mode, but i still havent figured out how to get rid of the annoying thing in the right hand corner
02:30.04zmiscThank you, I was checking out Razor-Qt but its not mature enough.
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02:49.36cornfeedhobowell, i have thoroughly confirmed that bug....
02:51.43KimLarouxThanks for taking an active part in this community project =)
02:53.10KimLarouxhave you tried disabling one effect at a time?
02:53.29cornfeedhobodisabled them all :-)
02:54.06cornfeedhobonow if only i could get kdesudo to use kwallet
02:54.43KimLarouxyou actually use kwallet?
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02:54.56KimLarouxit's one of those things I disable first on a fresh install
02:55.10KimLarouxit's kinda silly when your whole disc is encrypted
02:55.57cornfeedhoboi dont encrypt my whole disk, and its nice to have a central place for secure stuff, like webforms and such
02:56.05cornfeedhoboi wish more programs had support for it
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03:06.08KimLarouxeven if you encrypt your home dir... it's still enough
03:14.32VaterGarpWhat worries me about KWallet is that anybody can walk up to my computer and check all the saved passwords without being prompted to enter the necessary password again
03:15.14KimLarouxlock screen when you're away
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03:18.46VaterGarpYeah, well, that's true, and if there are people in my room I have to expect to steal all my passwords, I've got other problems than a few forum passwords…
03:23.11KimLarouxInded ;)
03:23.14KimLaroux+e
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03:31.45rdieterVaterGarp: you can set a short timeout so that you are reprompted
03:34.35rdieter(hrm... though the option only says "close when unused for X minutes".  maybe it does indeed stay open while something is using it.  turns out, however, not even kwallet (manager) has access (by default) to the stored passwords (though your "anybody" could perhaps use your stored passwords for nefarious purpose)
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03:41.18Zero_Angellike by stealing your meatspin login
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03:43.10KimLarouxZero_Angel: why are you so obsessed with this?
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03:44.43Zero_Angelthat's a good question
03:46.22VaterGarpThat's true, I could activate that timeout
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08:28.06_basic6can someone recommend a screenshot tool that's good for creating basic documentation? that is, highlighting parts of the screenshot, put text on it... ?
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08:30.43thiagoksnapshot + any painting program
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08:32.47_basic6found the perfect program - shutter (i'd prefer a kde tool, but shutter is all-in-one, so i'll use it)
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08:52.42BollsaqKdenlive crashes every time I click render. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10. Tried updating, ininstalling and reinstalling, no dice. Any suggestions?
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08:58.24BollsaqI'm getting this in the terminal Segmentation fault (core dumped)
08:58.30TorchBollsaq: install debug symbols and report on bugs.kde.org
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08:58.46TorchBollsaq: using the kde crash manager tool
08:58.57BollsaqTorch: I don't know how to do that.
08:59.09BollsaqTorch: I'm using Gnome Shell
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08:59.42thiagoinstall the debug packages for your distro
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10:13.33aditsuhi, I can't get opengl compositing to work inside virtualbox, does anybody know how to fix that?
10:14.02aditsu(I'm using kde 4.9.3)
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10:57.00ProgersHi
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11:39.46[Lemmy]is there a html editor for KDE4?
11:42.42tsimpsonhtml is just text so you can edit it in any text editor, like kate
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11:48.03demsking[Lemmy]: Yes there is: Kate
11:48.17demskingor Kwrite
11:48.25[Lemmy]i was thinking more of a WYSIWYG, like quanta for kde3...
11:49.13Sho_there's a new wip quanta, but it's not wysiwyg
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12:01.18damian_^hi, i installed plasma active via software center but im only getting the kde plasma desktop, not the tablet version. what package do i need (maybe a dummy package) or do i need to add a ppa or something?
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12:04.38damian_^is there a way to enable it or is it not installed with kde plasma?
12:05.07damian_^this is the specific package i started with: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/kde/plasma-active
12:05.26Sho_damian_^: got to ask in #kubuntu
12:06.00damian_^ok will do :)
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12:11.08tsimpsondamian_^: look in System Settings -> Workspace Behaviour -> Workspace, and look under the Workspace Type menu
12:11.56Progersafter i installed "Video driver for the AMD Radeon and FireGL graphics accelerators" from additional drivers,the desktop effects has turned off i cant turn it on it says"24 desktop effects could not be loaded."i tried to deactivate the driver,but desktop effects still not working.how to turn them back on?
12:12.03Progersi use Kubuntu 12.10
12:12.17Progerswhen i click details he says"For technical reasons it is not possible to determine all possible error causes.""desktop effect system is not running"
12:12.38Progershttp://pastebin.com/YqkmjYSj   this is kwinrs file
12:12.46Progershttp://iceimg.com/i/36/a8/b33a81ddfb.png
12:13.28Progershow to start the Desktop effects again?
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12:19.11Progersi must remove the amd driver?
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12:42.59oneadventhow about a plugin that if text is selected anywhere you can add it as a note to the desktop (including browsers)
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13:25.10Sho_oneadvent: probably already hack-together-able between Klipper and Plasma scripting
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13:43.15BluesKajHi folks
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13:55.20oneadventwhere can i find a good how to or close to Sho_
13:55.34Sho_oneadvent: dunno, sorry
13:59.20AknotWhy the tasks in task manager sometimes automatically change their position? how can i change it to normal
14:00.20Sho_Aknot: set the sorting to "Manual" I guess
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14:01.26Aknotsho got it
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14:59.30AknotHOw can i make transmission-qt open magnet links with chromium?
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15:02.40invariantAknot, do you mean that you can run it without it segfaulting? o.O
15:03.06Aknotwat
15:03.28invariantAknot, IMHO, transmission-qt is an unstable <words you cannot use here>.
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15:03.53invariantAknot, it's a chromium question, not a kde question.
15:03.54Aknotwhat do u suggest then
15:04.23invariantAknot, http://code.google.com/p/transmisson-remote-gui/ is superior in every way.
15:05.16AknotHow does that differ from qtransmission
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15:05.24invariantAknot, it works.
15:05.32Aknotand do magnet links work by default on it?
15:05.44invariantAknot, that is completely unrelelated.
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15:06.10invariantAknot, you want a chromium setting.
15:06.24invariantAknot, ask the people who wrote chromium how to solve that problem.
15:06.33Aknoti did no answer
15:06.41invariantAknot, it's off-topic here.
15:07.28Aknoti installed that gui thing and its asking for password and ips and such, i rather not use such hassle program
15:08.15invariantAknot, suit yourself, don't say I didn't warn you.
15:08.25Aknotwarn me about what
15:08.36Aknoti have no problems with qtransmission besides getting .magnets
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15:09.08BluesKajAknot, what's wrong with ktorrent , fewer hassles
15:09.21Aknotill try it
15:09.42BluesKajit's the kde default
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15:12.00invariantktorrent doesn't allow the user to be control.
15:12.18invariantYou cannot set it to not upload for example.
15:13.05Aknotlol magnets work now in ktorrent
15:13.09Aknotgood
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15:15.30BluesKajwell, you can set it to 1kbs ..that's sharing at very low rate , ktorrent wants you to share your good fortune
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15:46.32Aknotso i added some magnet links but 5 still wont go to the download section
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16:17.11Aknotah nvm
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17:06.01rdieterAknot: I think all you need is to associate MimeType=x-scheme-handler/magnet with your app of choice
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17:07.49rdieterreminds me, I need to upstream a patch to make that work right in ktorrent (to use the newer mimetype stuff, instead of hard-coded magnet.protocol)
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17:11.31Aknotrdieter it worked itself out, i just had to wait
17:11.56rdieteryay, found ktorrent on reviewboard
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17:49.02JoaoSantanahi all
17:49.52JoaoSantanasomeone can give me a tip about a twitter client for kde?
17:50.46QwertyMJoaoSantana: Assuming you haven't tried any yet: I've in the past found Choqok to be good :)
17:50.54vivek_my ipod classic mounts in /temp and with root privilage...changes device name(/dev/sdb.../dev/sdc...) everytime i plug it... amarok is unable to detect it...please help
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17:53.36JoaoSantanaQwertyM: i'm switching to KDE, and really haven't tried none. I've heard about Choqok, so seem it's a good start :)
17:53.44vivek_anyybody here to help me out!!
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17:54.41QwertyMvivek_: I'm sorry I do not know how to plug your problem, but please be patient, someone who knows will help you out eventually :)
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17:54.50JoaoSantanavivek_: what's your distro?
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17:55.05vivek_arch with kde
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18:02.06JoaoSantanavivek_: I'm asking because I've had this problem in Ubuntu three years ago. It was a problem with the way that Ubuntu dealt with removable devices. See if this helps you: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPod
18:02.27AknotHow do i get folders and other programs to act like in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuZcYh0XbMM
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18:03.24Aknotlike if i click folder which is "under" the folder it switches like that
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18:04.09Torchmy head hurts from watching this ;-)
18:04.58Aknot:D
18:05.43Torchi'd suggest turning on all kwin  desktop effects you can find, then turn off the ones you don't want ;-)
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21:19.27Leoneofhello, everything is smooth with kde, but doing minimum / restore 'window' is not smooth , like 10fps
21:25.31Leoneofhey
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21:34.09Leoneof:d
21:34.12Leoneofwake up!
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21:36.45Phr33d0mthen disable that effect?
21:36.55cb400fLeoneof: so that would imply the minimize effect is not work well with your hardware/driver
21:37.13cb400f.. turn it off.. or try another one.. e.g. magic lamp is nice.. if that works better in your configuration
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21:37.29Leoneofcb400f: oh ok, will try...
21:38.09Leoneofcb400f: btw, it's geforce 8600m gt 512mb , with driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-310.32.run
21:38.45cb400fdoesn't really matter what driver/card combo you have... some effect will _always_ suck it seems
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21:41.54Leoneofcb400f: done, better than minimum but not like 60fps :\
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21:42.19cb400fif you don't use any minimize effect at all, it'll be instant ;-)
21:42.34Leoneofok, i will try this..
21:44.40Leoneofcb400f: right, but i can notice how it's trying to draw the window, buttons...etc :p
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21:46.51Leoneof'wobbly windows' is great, very very smooth
21:48.13ozzzywhy do the wobble
21:48.36ozzzyer... they
21:48.53Leoneofozzzy: because i want to ensure of this is general problem or just minimum effect
21:49.25ozzzyI guess I meant... what's the purpose
21:49.27ozzzysorry
21:49.39Leoneofyeah i noticed that, sorry too :p
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21:52.44ozzzyahhh... I see it... interesting
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21:54.27dfaurelet's try here.... Anyone running Mandriva? Please tell me which path is shown by the command `strace -e connect lircmd`
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22:01.23dfaureman, I don't know where to ask anymore. Maybe Mandriva is dead for good then... ?
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22:26.56lainlivescan i disable alt to move wnidows
22:27.03lainlivesmakes playing diablo 2 impossible
22:27.44dfaurelainlives: alt+f2 actions
22:27.46DaZlainlives: alt f3->more actions -> application something and disable global shortcuts, or something
22:28.19DaZignore global shortcuts even :v
22:28.26lainlivesper application configuration does not work here
22:28.27dfaurelainlives: alt+f2 actions, 2nd tab (Window Actions), bottom half.
22:28.39DaZwut
22:28.41DaZshould work >:
22:28.43dfaureit says Alt + left button = move
22:28.45lainlivesnever has for me
22:28.58DaZrestart diablo :v
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22:29.25lainlivesDaZ: i wish per application settings worked :(
22:30.14DaZdunnolol, it works here :c
22:30.27lainlivesand im not seeing anythign in global hotkeys that hooks 'alt + leftclick'
22:30.35dfaurefeels ignored...
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22:31.00lainlivesdfaure: im not seeing this combination at all in global keyboard shortcuts settings
22:31.00dfaureI told you where the setting is, and it's not a shortcut/hotkey.
22:31.08dfaurethat's not where I told you to look
22:31.50lainlivesalt+f2 for me brings up a 'run box'
22:31.53dfaureAlt+f2, type "actions, choose "Configure keyboard and mouse settings", switch to the 2nd tab (Window Actions), bottom half.
22:32.07lainlivesFedora
22:32.21dfauredoesn't matter, unless they killed some config modules...
22:32.33lainlivesalt+f2 brings up a run box
22:32.46dfaureAlt+f2, type "actions", click on "Configure keyboard and mouse settings", switch to the 2nd tab (Window Actions), look at the bottom half.
22:32.51lainlivesoh
22:32.52lainlivessorry
22:32.58lainlivesxD ahahaha i completely missed some text there
22:33.52lainliveswell i dont use meta, so ill remap them in case the offreason i need said features
22:34.04lainlivesthanks dfaure, also thanks for putting up with my inability to read all the text it seems
22:35.11lainliveshrm >.> im normally amazing at following instruction
22:35.22dfaurefinds that hard to believe :-)
22:35.33lainlives:P this just had me abnormally angry
22:35.45lainlivesCOULDNT PICK UP MAH LOOT MAN
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