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| 00:26.18 | jhutson456 | i've tried a few google searches and the pages it pulls up are dead. is there a distinct advantage by one or the other in going with phonon-gstreamer vs phonon-vlc ? I'm doing this all on a clean install of Arch Linux. |
| 00:27.23 | Mamarok | jhutson456: that very much depends on the features you want |
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| 00:27.39 | Mamarok | install both so you can switch easily |
| 00:28.45 | jhutson456 | I was looking of a good breakdown of features but it was either opinion stuff or dead links, no hard VLC = abc and GS = axc and the difference between b and x is.... know what I mean? |
| 00:29.10 | Mamarok | with the vlc backend you don't have to install additional codecs, but you don't have some features like gapless or an equalizer in Amarok |
| 00:29.39 | Mamarok | with the gstreamer one you have gapless and an equalizer, but not so good stream support and you need to install additional plugins |
| 00:30.11 | Mamarok | for me the vlc backend gives better sound quality over all, but that can vary depending on your hardware |
| 00:30.23 | Mamarok | so install both, and you can test what suits you better |
| 00:30.33 | jhutson456 | Thank you Mamarok. If you use both can you combine to make a best of both worlds scenario or do you have to toggle and decide which to use at that time? |
| 00:31.15 | Mamarok | no, you can only use one at a time |
| 00:31.31 | jhutson456 | Ok, thank you again for the information. :-) |
| 00:31.41 | Mamarok | and most of the time you will have to restart KDE so phonon takes over the changed backend |
| 00:32.07 | Mamarok | since I don't need equalizer and gapless the vlc backend makes me quite happy |
| 00:32.29 | Mamarok | but as I said, that very much depends on the personal preferences, and also on som hardware that works better with one than the other |
| 00:32.31 | jhutson456 | I don't need gapless at all and the equalizer would be nice, but isn't needed in any way. |
| 00:33.26 | jhutson456 | During installation it asks to choose one or the other so I went with VLC. If I experience any issues then I'll add GS and see how I like it. |
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| 00:41.17 | factor | How can I set USB audio as default output |
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| 00:46.21 | factor | cool got it |
| 00:46.24 | factor | sweet |
| 00:46.39 | factor | Just pushed the usb headset up to the top of all the audio stuff |
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| 01:15.23 | jhutson456 | wow KDE takes a long time to install lol |
| 01:16.33 | Mamarok | that depends very much on how much you install |
| 01:16.50 | Mamarok | all KDE projects is a lot of stuff, yes, but do you really need everything? |
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| 01:18.31 | jhutson456 | no i don't but I don't know what I want. I just did pacman -S kde |
| 01:18.55 | jhutson456 | I'll remove what I don't need lol |
| 01:19.36 | Mamarok | well, that probably also drags in all translations, that will indeed take ages :) |
| 01:20.05 | Jucato | that will most likely pull in everything, including extra wallpapers (those can be large too), education apps, games, etc. |
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| 02:52.56 | zenguy_pc | can anyone help me with this please? http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=109400 |
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| 04:43.15 | factor | how can I get firefox to use phonon |
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| 05:24.28 | danharibo | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5619257/kde.png |
| 05:24.31 | danharibo | this looks too good |
| 05:24.37 | danharibo | where do I file a bug report. |
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| 06:32.37 | jhutson456 | nm, got it :-) |
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| 08:05.29 | deavid | someone here can help me? i've just lost all the apps in my KDE menu.... i was trying to move "Educational" inside "development" folder, and after saving i can't see any apps... |
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| 08:05.46 | deavid | and the "Edit menu entries" option doesn't show anymore |
| 08:06.05 | deavid | i just want to rebuild it all |
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| 10:24.53 | deavid | no one can help me here? |
| 10:25.04 | deavid | (about recreating all menu entries) |
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| 10:52.19 | Torch | deavid: just a quick guess: you could try moving $HOME/.local/share/applications away, log out and log in again and see if that helps |
| 10:53.30 | Torch | or, alternatively to logging out and in again, just run kbuildsycoca4 from a shell and see if that fixes it |
| 10:53.43 | Torch | (not skipping the move-the-dir-away-part in that case, of course) |
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| 11:04.43 | deavid | Torch: moved away, logged out and in, no effect. $HOME/.local/share/application isn't created automatically |
| 11:05.16 | deavid | kbuildsycoca4 executed, no effect |
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| 11:07.54 | siavashserver | Hello. Any ideas why Ksysguard shows wrong process count and CPU usage in the status bar? http://imagebin.org/240865 |
| 11:08.46 | siavashserver | Ah, and I'm using Archlinux x64 + KDE 4.9.4 |
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| 11:10.30 | siavashserver | This problem only happens when ksysguard starts with a tab other than "Process Table". However, switching to the process table tab, corrects the statusbar values. |
| 11:11.47 | siavashserver | Correct value of process count is 109, but ksysguard shows 9 (in pasted picture) and CPU usage stays at 100%. |
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| 12:44.01 | oneadven1 | does anyone know how to disable recent documents |
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| 14:14.22 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 14:21.49 | jillsmitt_ | BluesKaj: hello |
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| 15:58.37 | litb | is there a way you can get the command line you need when invoking a method using qdbusviewer? |
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| 16:08.28 | rdieter | litb: it's not too hard to deduce |
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| 16:10.27 | rdieter | litb: something like: qdbus org.kde.foo /some/path org.kde.foo.method <args> |
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| 17:22.44 | BoomerBile | what is the name of the program that is responsible for the stuck "this session is locked" window that won't get off my desktop |
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| 17:24.04 | phiscribe | i guessing the screen saver |
| 17:24.27 | BoomerBile | no doubt, but what's it called in kde 4.9 |
| 17:25.13 | phiscribe | xscreensaver? not sure |
| 17:26.15 | BoomerBile | this little window won't take the focus, it's dead, buttons don't work, can't type in it, but it's disabled any sort of overlay on that desktop, and covers all of my windows, and the session is unlocked |
| 17:26.52 | BoomerBile | it even covers guake |
| 17:27.03 | BoomerBile | and "stay above others" windows |
| 17:27.30 | BoomerBile | i can reproduce the bug by logging out, locking the screen and coming back in about an hour |
| 17:27.41 | BoomerBile | only happens in kde |
| 17:27.57 | Torch | did you search bugs.kde.org? |
| 17:29.00 | BoomerBile | no usually i give up on kde and go use some other window manager... kde is losing my interest every time i use it... 3.5 was fine this new crap is just that. |
| 17:29.48 | Torch | alright, then no use complaining. |
| 17:29.52 | phiscribe | hit alt+shift+12 wait a second and hit it againg. (someone suggested turing off and back on desktop effects triggers the screen lock to work as it should) |
| 17:30.30 | BoomerBile | thanks phiscribe that worked instantly |
| 17:30.51 | phiscribe | wonder of wonders |
| 17:31.23 | BoomerBile | i tried finding the desktop overlay deal with the widgets, i know i hit the right combo but nothing happened.. i thought something like that might work |
| 17:31.50 | BoomerBile | sure beats logging out when you have as much work going on as i do |
| 17:31.53 | phiscribe | i think maybe its fixed in 4.10 |
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| 19:48.25 | thinksteve | Good evening, is there an option to remove the hibernate and sleep button from the shutdown menu? |
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| 19:50.12 | thinksteve | I would like to prevent users from shutting down or suspending my system while mythbackend is recording. Latter will intiate system shutdowns instead. |
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| 20:12.27 | xdan779 | thinksteve: you can remove the option via systemsettings, the button will still be there but only the option to disconnect will be given |
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| 20:34.28 | thinksteve | xdan779: Thank you. I could remove suspend and hibernate buttons by setting polkit policies. |
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| 20:36.16 | thinksteve | xdan779: Unfortunally I could not yet find a way to constantly set 'AllowShutdown=None' in kdmrc, which would remove shutdown buttons. |
| 20:36.37 | xdan779 | thinksteve: I do not know about that, but systemsettings -> login screen -> Shutdown tab just switch the allow shutdown to nobody |
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| 20:45.21 | thinksteve | Let's see if kdm 4.8.5 already knows about that one. |
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| 21:39.45 | thinksteve | xdan779: It keeps reseting it. I had to add my option to section [X-:0-Core] to enforce it. I hope it'll work for a while. Thanks for listening. :) |
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| 21:44.35 | xdan779 | thinksteve: sounds like you may have another issue as that setting should be persistent. I have two machines that allow desktop/logins using kdm and I have never had to reset that option . You may want to look deeper into that as once that is fixed your issue will be resolved |
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| 22:03.48 | H__ | Can the audio playback hardware list for system settings be manipulated ? I want to *remove* the HDMI outputs from the list (as it keeps interfering with my built-in SPDIF output) |
| 22:05.45 | BluesKaj | H__, do you have pavucontrol installed , use that to choose the spdif out as default or card0 |
| 22:06.21 | H__ | BluesKaj: not installed yet. I'll give it a try :) |
| 22:07.42 | BluesKaj | H__, also it could also depend on the player , especially if you use vlc , then you need to set the audio there to spdif as well |
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| 22:09.05 | BluesKaj | and of coursae phonon in system settings > multimedia , H__ |
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| 22:10.04 | H__ | BluesKaj: I use a mix of mplayer, vlc and browsers. Output fails from time to time and I alsways see the HDMI as the selected option in phonon. Also when I plug in an android phone I get a note that KDE thinks my internal hardware (with SPDIF) disappeared , asking me if I want to forget that hardware forever |
| 22:10.54 | H__ | in phonon the internal hardware has preference over hdmi (listed earlier) so that's not it (in case you wondered ;-) |
| 22:11.36 | BluesKaj | choose the spdif output in phonon if possible and make it the default by moving it to the top of the list and apply to all devices as well |
| 22:11.54 | H__ | I now select 'profile OFF' in pavucontrol for HDMI. Let's see if that helps. |
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| 22:13.03 | messerting | Where do I set where rekonq opens magnet links? Ie., the "magnet:" protocol? |
| 22:14.29 | BluesKaj | messerting, you need a torrent client like ktorrent . open it from /usr/bin |
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| 22:15.22 | BluesKaj | messerting, unless you use kget |
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| 22:17.25 | H__ | mixed result : mplayer stream worked. I stopped that and am now playing mplayer, vlc, and a youtube via firefox: no audio at all now. |
| 22:17.44 | messerting | BluesKaj: Yes, I do have ktorrent installed, but now it opens in "transmission". I'd like to change that. |
| 22:17.57 | BluesKaj | what's your distro , H__ ? |
| 22:19.12 | H__ | BluesKaj: ubuntu 12.10. I selected 'pause' in pavucontrol twice and now I hear all three audio sources (as expected). |
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| 22:19.56 | H__ | pausing all streams and unpausing just vlc : no audio. |
| 22:20.15 | BluesKaj | messerting, when yhou click on the torrent file whether it's magnet or regular , "the open with" dialog should appear |
| 22:20.45 | BluesKaj | ok H__ , soundcard model ? |
| 22:21.25 | H__ | BluesKaj: plain IEC958 digital audio on the motherboard |
| 22:21.49 | H__ | I did not experience this behaviour in ubuntu 12.04 |
| 22:22.00 | BluesKaj | what does alsamixer list as the audio chip ? |
| 22:22.24 | H__ | Card: HDA Intel PCH Chip: Realtek ALC887-VD |
| 22:23.57 | BluesKaj | H__, check youraudio outs on the hrdware tab in multimedia and pavucontrol , make sure they match |
| 22:25.01 | H__ | BluesKaj: they're the same. I just had audio working. It's that stopping 1 source and selecting another breaks it all for a while. |
| 22:25.29 | BluesKaj | and just for safetey's sake , run sudo modprpbe snd-hda-intel , to make sure the audio module is loading properly |
| 22:26.03 | BluesKaj | mplayer cabe a pain on sosme sytems , ...stopped using it |
| 22:26.33 | BluesKaj | err let me rephrase , can be a pain on some systems |
| 22:26.53 | H__ | It's also between switching from browser to vlc. |
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| 22:29.24 | H__ | I was kinda hoping this was a known issue. It behaves as intermittent contact. |
| 22:30.58 | BluesKaj | you have only one soundcard installed , H__ , correct , and your graphica are also on the mobo ? |
| 22:31.03 | H__ | I've been thinking about only using static entries in /etc/pulse/default.pa for the HDA Intel PCH . Would that have any effect on what pavucontrol and phonon see ? |
| 22:31.34 | H__ | BluesKaj: yes; the HDA Intel PCH lives on the motherboard and the HDMI came with the NVidia graphics card. |
| 22:32.31 | BluesKaj | the nvidia graphics is on the mobo as well or is it a pci card? |
| 22:33.06 | H__ | that's a real card, pci-like yes |
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| 22:33.25 | BluesKaj | ahh that's the problem then |
| 22:33.46 | H__ | interesting, do go on |
| 22:34.28 | BluesKaj | you need to set the apdif as card0 and the hdmi as card1 , |
| 22:34.53 | tang87 | Angurie! |
| 22:36.14 | H__ | BluesKaj: when I reconnect an android phone via USB I get a KDE popup saying 'KDE detected that one or more internal devices were removed' namely the 'Output: HDA Intel PCH, ALC887-VD Digital'. Any ideas how this fits in ? |
| 22:37.04 | BluesKaj | err spdif as card0 (default) in phonon , and the hdmi on the nvidia as card 1 |
| 22:38.12 | BluesKaj | no I haven't any idea why that happens with smatphone connections |
| 22:38.25 | H__ | BluesKaj: I think I already have that. I see the built-in IEC958 at the top and the HDMI at the bottom |
| 22:40.13 | BluesKaj | ok ..gotta go .... going out for dinner |
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| 22:42.13 | H__ | BluesKaj: thanks for your help :) |
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| 23:19.18 | ambro718 | what happened to Konsole? I can't move tabs by dragging anymore. If I grab a tab, wherever I release it, it ends up its own window. |
| 23:20.22 | ambro718 | neither moving a tab to a different place in the same window not moving to a different window works |
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| 23:45.48 | NeutrinoPower | hi |
| 23:48.18 | cjae | is crt l the only way to get cursor into navigation bar dolphin ? |
| 23:48.27 | cjae | seems to be more of a toggle |
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| 23:48.46 | NeutrinoPower | last month akregator lost all feeds, now kontact 4.10 rc1 (kaddressbook 4.10 rc1) has lost all addressbooks on kde 4.9.95! |
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| 23:52.16 | NeutrinoPower | kaddressbook(23802)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name" |
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| 23:55.50 | cjae | also how do I get my keyboard to register on the second display/screen |
| 23:57.35 | cjae | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts ....sweet never knew this existed |
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| 23:57.53 | maazu | bye all |
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| 23:59.53 | NeutrinoPower | kontact crashes at shutdown orquit of kde everytime and on the next boot kontact start two times |
