00:00.11 | Aristide | DaZ: I use Pulseaudio. Pavucontrol display « Jack Audio Sink » But I can only set volum with pavucontrol |
00:00.19 | Aristide | I can't set volum with default volume |
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00:00.36 | JZA | example, I did Ctrl-Meta Down and it show me a hisotry where I can scroll to what I want, but when I put Ctr-V it will still show me the last clipboard |
00:02.26 | DaZ | Aristide: you can try getting to mixer window, settings->configure channels and check if anything does what you want |
00:02.44 | Aristide | DaZ: Already try, the list is empty. Wait I post a screenshot if you want |
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00:03.06 | DaZ | why not <: |
00:03.35 | Aristide | DaZ: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/06/plasma-desktopEV8261.png |
00:03.42 | DaZ | i recall that last time when i accidentally switched to pulseaudio it didn't seem to work together as well |
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00:04.52 | DaZ | hum, but i had at least one slider :c |
00:05.06 | Aristide | ^^ |
00:05.18 | Aristide | DaZ: So i have found a Widget for set volume :) |
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01:04.09 | JZA | hi anyone here use klipper |
01:04.13 | JZA | I want to know how can I change my clipboard buffer, I already configured it iterate through history. However I need it to register the curent selection. |
01:04.17 | JZA | example, I did Ctrl-Meta Down and it show me a hisotry where I can scroll to what I want, but when I put Ctr-V it will still show me the last clipboard |
01:04.42 | JZA | but still cant get to paste the content I choose |
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01:19.16 | JZA | anyone arround |
01:19.27 | Alumin | you have to click on it |
01:20.25 | Alumin | and just FYI, asking if anybody is around is kinda silly...if someone sees your question and wants to take the time to answer it, they will :P |
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02:35.48 | daddytech | Hello, is anyone home |
02:38.05 | ania12lat | nope |
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03:16.19 | JZA | hi anyone around? |
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08:03.43 | rethus1 | or is there something like lightKDE? |
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10:29.18 | Aristide | Hum. A button for launch knetattach from « open file » can be a good idea :Ð |
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10:29.31 | Aristide | « open file dialog* » |
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10:48.41 | frikinz | Hi all. How to configure kde to allow multiple instance of the same program to run? I have mrxvt in one place and want another mrxvt in another. But it keeps on bringing me to the already opened mrxvt. So annoying.. |
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10:51.04 | frikinz | (happens for any application, like impossible to open 2 konsole) |
10:54.06 | Adaptee | frikinz: hard to understand your problem. Please explain how exactly you "open" 2 konsole but fail |
10:56.01 | frikinz | alt f2, open konsole OK. go to another activity, alt f2, open konsole, it brings me to the first activity. |
10:56.04 | frikinz | Adaptee: ^ |
10:56.51 | frikinz | at least I'm wondering if this is the default behaviour of kde 4.8 or if only on my host |
10:57.04 | moofang | frikinz: doesn't happen here, alt f2 konsole > konsole window, alt f2 konsole > another konsole window |
10:57.24 | frikinz | ok :( |
10:57.38 | moofang | i think this is controlled by the app though, for eg firefox has flags that let you open in new window, new instance, or existing window |
10:57.49 | moofang | so you might want to check the .desktop files of your launcher |
10:58.15 | moofang | for eg I can change my firefox icon to launch a new window or use the existing one by changing the flags passed to firefox in the .desktop file |
10:59.24 | frikinz | moofang: do you know which entry is this? I'd be surprised mrxvt locked this (just installed it) and I see nothing like in its .desktop file |
10:59.57 | Adaptee | frikinz: Ahh, I see. Activities. konsole currently does not work well with activities, because all konsole instances by default run in the same process |
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11:00.22 | Jucato | actually |
11:00.38 | Jucato | frikinz: when you press Alt+F2 and type konsole, what is the first and second options? |
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11:01.34 | frikinz | let's say mrxvt then :) which also fails |
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11:01.53 | Jucato | my first one is "Activate running Window on ___", the second is "Konsole Terminal". the second opens a new konsole in the right activity |
11:02.30 | frikinz | Jucato: uho, I didn't see this. right, I think you found it |
11:02.32 | Jucato | I think there is no guarantee that non-KDE apps work well with Activities. not sure though. some do by default |
11:03.16 | frikinz | Yep, had to use mousewheel to go down. I'd prefer it to be the default but whatever |
11:03.25 | frikinz | thanks all |
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11:05.15 | Jucato | frikinz: just press Tab, by default that highlights whatever the second option is |
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11:09.46 | frikinz | yeah. having n rxvt already opened forces me to press n times. I don't like it but understand common people want to group their apps. |
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11:15.14 | BluesKaj | Hey all |
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11:37.51 | sacredchao | I feel dumb, but I can't find where to enable 24 hour time in KDE 3.8 ... |
11:38.15 | sacredchao | It's not in "Digital Clck Settings" and I can't find it in sstemsettings either |
11:38.21 | Jucato | KDE 3? |
11:38.27 | Jucato | system settings -> |
11:38.34 | sacredchao | oops.... *4.8 |
11:39.03 | Jucato | system settings -> Locale -> Country/Region & Language -> Date & Time tab |
11:39.44 | sacredchao | Ahhh hH |
11:39.58 | sacredchao | Nice! |
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12:06.28 | Aristide | Hi |
12:06.33 | Aristide | I can't connect on kdetalk :/ |
12:06.37 | Aristide | On Jabber |
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13:08.55 | ring_wraith | Is there any way for me to change the copy/paste dialog in dolphin? |
13:09.24 | ring_wraith | I'd like it to be more verbose. |
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13:17.03 | Jucato | what do you mean by "more verbose"? |
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13:20.06 | ring_wraith | Jucato: right now, the default copy/paste dialog just shows number of seconds remaining |
13:20.23 | ring_wraith | I'd like for it to display other things such as current speed, etc. |
13:20.55 | ring_wraith | and also, the window that pops up isn't draggable, so I'd like to change that too. |
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13:22.27 | Jucato | ah that's more than just dolphin. that's the KDE notification system. sorry i don't have much experience playing around with it. but afaik it shows transfer speeds too in KB/s |
13:23.25 | ring_wraith | Yeah, that happens if you click on the information widget in the panel |
13:24.07 | ring_wraith | So I'm guessing that means that even if I use another file browser it's going to stay the same. |
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14:19.55 | \Mike | I've noticed that some non-KDE applications (e.g. firefox) react to pure gnome kind of keyboard short cuts, such as F10 to focus the menu bar. I don't quite get how to adjust that - does anyone know? |
14:20.47 | \Mike | I found a mention of gconf-editor - should I have to install that to get rid of that behaviour? |
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14:22.38 | \Mike | (dist: Fedora 17, kde 4.9.2) |
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14:24.04 | lapion | hello, why does the clock not show 24hr time ? |
14:24.22 | lapion | the cock applet in the panel that is |
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14:25.35 | Jucato | lapion: you have to set it (for all of KDE) in system settings -> Locale -> Country/Region & Language -> Date & Time tab |
14:25.54 | lapion | I have and nothing works.. |
14:26.03 | lapion | keeps on giving me 03 in stead of 15 |
14:26.21 | lapion | even though I have it set for HH:MM:SS |
14:29.00 | Jucato | lapion: sometimes it takes a restart (of the desktop, like logging out and back in) for changes to take effect. if that isn't working, I'm still not sure what's going on |
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14:35.56 | lapion | Jucato, nope will not work.. |
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14:44.23 | lapion | Jucato, finally it worked.. I had to restart kde and set the time format again |
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14:44.41 | houge | Hi Everyone, I have a question, what is the mean of "Enable Password Less Login"? If I enable this, some users could be login my system without password? |
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14:45.45 | lapion | depending on where you set it, it might mean that either you will login without password, or one of the other users on your system can login without password |
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14:50.09 | houge | lapion: I think this set may danger... I enable virtualbox usr group in this set,if my WIndowsXP have been hacked in my virtualbox, maybe hurt my host computer |
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14:56.45 | lapion | houge, yes never set your vbox client without password |
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14:59.01 | almoxarife | dbus issue in 12.2 that is |
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14:59.42 | almoxarife | oh dear, not in opensuse, nevermind |
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15:10.36 | lapion | Finally I get a desktop that is (allmost) fully configurable, just like the old ubuntu default. |
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15:19.33 | lapion | how can I change the default workings of clicking in the scroll bar |
15:19.58 | lapion | right now it jumps to the mouse cursor on click, while I want page byh page jumps |
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15:38.26 | lapion | I do not like dynamic system trays, I do not want to guess where the icon appears when I expect it to be there shortly |
15:38.51 | lapion | I mean when I expect it to be activated shortly |
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15:43.56 | lapion | why does the system tray come with a spacer.. |
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15:44.33 | lapion | I have a single system tray on screen but it has a huge white space next to it in which I cannot put any widgest |
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15:47.54 | lapion | hmm I just found a rather nasty bug |
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15:49.43 | brainerazer | <PROTECTED> |
15:49.50 | brainerazer | *it is |
15:51.08 | lapion | if you disable visibility of hardware control in the system tray kde crashes and reloads ( screen turns black for a second) |
15:51.09 | DaZ | brainerazer: did you try restarting plasma-desktop? |
15:51.25 | brainerazer | DaZ, I restarted kdm.service all the way |
15:51.36 | DaZ | oh systemd, you |
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15:51.57 | brainerazer | Arch. No choice here) But it is not the problem I guess) |
15:52.21 | DaZ | i'm still running initscripts, and no, it's not the problem <: |
15:52.34 | DaZ | strange stuff, i'll try to reproduce. |
15:52.38 | brainerazer | Huh |
15:53.04 | brainerazer | I did Alt-f2 , then "notify-send `echo $LANG`" and it showed me en_US.UTF* |
15:53.06 | brainerazer | *UTF8 |
15:53.22 | brainerazer | in Konsole - normal uk_UA.UTF8 like it should be |
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15:53.32 | brainerazer | and I have even set LANG in .bashrc |
15:53.55 | DaZ | i'm not sure if plasma desktop cares about .bashrc |
15:54.22 | DaZ | you could try setting it int ~/.kde4/env/ |
15:54.26 | brainerazer | It was uk_UA even without .bashrc as I recall |
15:54.39 | brainerazer | meh, why isn't it working anyway? |
15:55.01 | brainerazer | DaZ, is it a file or a directory? |
15:55.22 | DaZ | it's a directory you put file in, and make it executable :v |
15:55.50 | DaZ | http://wklej.org/hash/893b4360580/ something like this. |
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15:57.27 | JZA | hi anyone here a klipper power user |
15:58.12 | JZA | I want to know how to use klipper on the buffer history |
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15:58.55 | brainerazer | DaZ, well it helped |
15:59.18 | brainerazer | Although I forgot to make it executable... |
15:59.25 | brainerazer | And it is working -__- |
15:59.26 | DaZ | that's good, i guess :V |
15:59.50 | brainerazer | Does +x matter? |
15:59.53 | DaZ | brainerazer: maybe it works without that, i had some issues while trying to get it to work |
15:59.59 | DaZ | if it works, apparently not :v |
15:59.59 | lapion | how can I move the system tray on the panel ? |
16:00.09 | brainerazer | DaZ, Thank you |
16:00.13 | DaZ | yw |
16:00.30 | brainerazer | lapion, press plasma button on the side and then just drag and drop |
16:01.08 | lapion | no plasma button for the system tray |
16:01.32 | brainerazer | side of a panel |
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16:03.03 | lapion | hmm allmost got it.. |
16:03.22 | DaZ | or rmb on the desktop and unlock widgets first :v |
16:04.32 | brainerazer | And also, I have another trouble |
16:04.56 | brainerazer | I installed KFaenza and set it in system settings as icon theme |
16:05.14 | brainerazer | And on launchers on the panel I have faenza icons |
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16:05.39 | brainerazer | But when firefor/clementine/xchat etc actually launches, it changes it's icon back to originalk |
16:05.43 | brainerazer | *original |
16:06.18 | lapion | brainerazer, DaZ all widgets are unlocked, stil the system tray cannot be moved either up or down |
16:07.38 | lapion | is there any way to get a list of installed widgets/spacers to remove them one by one ? |
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16:12.52 | brainerazer | And one more. By any chance does anybody know if you can change brightness device for powerdevil? Because now I have to do brightness control manually |
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16:13.11 | brainerazer | Although I suspect my problems come from bugs in upower... |
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16:14.30 | JZA | I need some help using klipperr |
16:14.35 | JZA | klipper |
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16:24.09 | tekzilla | i added a FlavorListener to the system clipboard, but no events are being generated as the clipboard contents or their dataflavour changes. what could be the reaseon ? running linux with KDE |
16:24.31 | tekzilla | oh sorry, wrong channel! |
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16:27.07 | lapion | can anyone try the following: open system tray settings, disable "Hardware control" from Shown item Categories. you should get a black screen and afterwards the screen returns to normal however the system tray moves more to the left or right.. |
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16:34.22 | Moviuro | lapion: nope |
16:34.34 | lapion | when I put my system tray onto the desktop I get a huge window covering 60% of the desktop.. |
16:35.23 | lapion | how can I delete the system tray config file/information |
16:36.35 | BluesKaj | lapion, click on the cashew on right of the panel , click and draw the "height" option down to the size you want |
16:36.45 | Moviuro | lapion: well, plasma-desktop crashed after i locked widgets xD |
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16:38.26 | lapion | nope doesn't work |
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16:39.17 | lapion | why does every size setting encompass using the mouse why can I not set it with number somewhere.. |
16:40.59 | wooo | when I am using command cmake an error occurs "No cmake_minimum_required command is present. A line of code such as cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 2.8)" .When I am adding this line so many other errors in CMakeList starts occuring.Whats this? |
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16:42.11 | rdieter | wooo: silly question, what version of cmake are you using? |
16:42.36 | rdieter | and what are the "so many other errors"? |
16:43.18 | lapion | The size of the system tray cannot be changed and there is not even a spaces involved so why does it have such a huge gray space when I try to move it around ? |
16:44.04 | wooo | rdieter: 2.8.5,other errors like Unknown CMake command "macro_optional_find_package". |
16:45.12 | rdieter | pretty sure that one's a kde specific one |
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16:45.40 | rdieter | wooo: #kde-devel or #cmake may be better places to ask |
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16:47.32 | lapion | okay a relogin appantly solved the unusually large system tray problem |
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16:48.00 | cjbq | hi all. I have a quick question: I am using konqueror, using sftp or fish to connect to a web server. How can I make it behave like nautilus so that if I open a txt file it does it on a mounted folder on my pc? |
16:48.20 | lapion | now if only there I could set all icons to allwyas visible and not have to set each icon added.. |
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17:06.41 | einseenai | guys, is it safe to install Kmix from git to current KDE 4.9.2? i mean in terms of compatibility? |
17:07.20 | rdieter | einseenai: "safe" is relative, compatibility... with what? ie, will it work? |
17:07.29 | einseenai | yup |
17:07.32 | rdieter | probably |
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17:08.32 | nirjhor | what might there be on KDE 5? |
17:08.38 | nirjhor | when is it coming out? |
17:09.36 | einseenai | rdieter, so git Kmix is developed in coherence with the rest of KDE? or it's kinda standalone? |
17:10.14 | rdieter | einseenai: primarily, it's indeeded to be shipped with the same kde branch, that said, i believe it only depends on (frozen) kdelibs, so should be ok |
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17:11.24 | einseenai | rdieter, alrighty, thanks a lot then! |
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17:12.46 | rdieter | einseenai: see also http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules (notice it's not there yet) |
17:13.59 | rdieter | einseenai: that said, in general it's more about reorganizing the codebase, will hopefully be a far smaller change than what kde3->kde4 was. |
17:14.42 | rdieter | err, I mixed up conversations and channels |
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17:15.10 | einseenai | rdieter, got it, thanks. :) |
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17:29.40 | lapion | is it possible to allow certain applications to go on top of the panels ( eg mythtv ) |
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17:35.28 | cb400f | prolly not.. you can allow all applications to do it.. or set the panel to autohide... or maybe write a kwin script that makes it possible |
17:35.49 | xdan779 | lapion alt+f3 -> More Actions -> keep above others |
17:36.16 | cb400f | does that include the panel? |
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17:36.35 | xdan779 | cb400f yes it does |
17:36.52 | cb400f | yep, just tested :-) |
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17:37.53 | lapion | xdan779, the I cannot switch to a application underneath it.. |
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17:38.09 | lapion | I only want it to be on top of the panels when it's active |
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17:40.05 | xdan779 | using full screen instead of keep above other will behave that way |
17:40.09 | lapion | what's this activities thing ? is it like a quantum desktop ? |
17:40.39 | lapion | it is full screen xdan779 however it remains behind the panel(s) |
17:42.24 | xdan779 | hmm I am not sure if I set a window full screen mode via alt+f3 -> More Actions it does place the application above the panel |
17:42.59 | xdan779 | this is for mythtv specifically or all application |
17:43.17 | lapion | mythtv specifically |
17:44.04 | lapion | the big problem with using above others is that I cannot call the terminal forward to kill it.. |
17:44.43 | xdan779 | alt+tab |
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17:45.45 | Wizard | Yo! |
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17:46.09 | lapion | xdan779, the terminal only comes to foreground while the alt key is depresed when released mythtv goes on top again |
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17:49.12 | xdan779 | does mythtv not have a nice way of shutting down, an exit option or something, I think it may be the way myth does full screen |
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17:49.53 | xdan779 | a quick google search shows you are not the only one afflicted with this, and not just kde, seems to be a problem in gnome as well |
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17:51.56 | xdan779 | you can tell the panel to allow windows to go over it which will solve it, but I think you cannot see the other apps, because mythtv itself is running in full screen mode |
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17:56.15 | lapion | with mythtv you can allways call other applications on top of it even if it is fullscreen.. just like in firefox-F11 |
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18:00.21 | xdan779 | very strange then as it seems to work fine that way, I unfortunalty do not have mythtv to test with though so I would have to guess it is something specific to what that application is doing |
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18:10.24 | tulliana | hi all |
18:11.04 | tulliana | how it is kde 3,5 icons convert to kde4 ? |
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18:47.53 | m3l7xc | man |
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18:48.00 | m3l7xc | I've just installed kde |
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18:48.18 | m3l7xc | it's nice, but using touchpad is a hell |
18:48.30 | Bysmyyr | why, I think no |
18:48.39 | m3l7xc | for many reasons |
18:49.00 | Bysmyyr | tre finger gestures are missing but all other works |
18:49.12 | m3l7xc | I've enabled 2 finger scrolling, but if I do a tiny scroll, two finger tap triggers |
18:49.18 | Bysmyyr | three* |
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18:49.32 | m3l7xc | yeah 3 finger scrolling would be nice, but no other DE have it |
18:49.57 | Bysmyyr | eggdrop is but I haven't get it work |
18:49.58 | m3l7xc | I use 2 finger tap as right click, so it's quite frustraating |
18:50.08 | Bysmyyr | synaptiks? |
18:50.24 | m3l7xc | yeah |
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18:50.33 | Bysmyyr | in my laptop 1,2 and 3 finger cliks works well |
18:51.03 | m3l7xc | yeah but if you scroll with 2 finger a little |
18:51.07 | m3l7xc | 2 finger tap will trigger too |
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18:51.26 | Bysmyyr | what means "little" for you |
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18:52.02 | m3l7xc | well, few pixels, or don't move at all |
18:52.08 | Bysmyyr | yeah, I tried, if you take fingers of too quickly it tas |
18:52.16 | Bysmyyr | off* |
18:52.21 | m3l7xc | the correct behaviour should be a timeout for two finger tap |
18:52.52 | m3l7xc | if you press for, say, 500ms or more with 2 fingers, 2finger tap will not trigger |
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18:53.29 | Bysmyyr | if I but fingers to touchpad and then take them off in about second, it don't tab |
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18:54.07 | m3l7xc | mm strange |
18:54.11 | Bysmyyr | I have timeout about 0,3seconds |
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18:55.32 | m3l7xc | dunno |
18:55.41 | m3l7xc | the problem is that there is a single tap timeout config |
18:55.50 | m3l7xc | but not a 2finger tap timeout |
18:55.57 | Bysmyyr | XD |
18:57.47 | Bysmyyr | it is touchegg not eggdrop for conficurin 3finger gestures |
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20:03.45 | simplew | Sho_: ping |
20:03.54 | Sho_ | simplew: pong |
20:04.44 | simplew | Sho_: in dolphin when using icon view shouldnt show icons image without needing to use previou? |
20:05.05 | Sho_ | no, thumbnails are only loaded when preview is enabled |
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20:06.11 | simplew | Sho_: but i had the idea that in past used to show icons images without needing to previou (this of course only in icon view) |
20:06.26 | Sho_ | simplew: not that i know off, afaik it has always been this way |
20:06.31 | Sho_ | at least in the kde 4 version |
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20:19.47 | simplew | Sho_: atm who maintiang dolphin? |
20:19.56 | Sho_ | simplew: Frank Reininghaus |
20:19.59 | simplew | Sho_: atm whos maintaining dolphin? |
20:20.07 | simplew | only one person? |
20:20.12 | Sho_ | simplew: Yes |
20:20.33 | simplew | Sho_: why the previous maintainer left? |
20:20.56 | Sho_ | simplew: Lost interest or so |
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20:22.10 | Sho_ | Of course Dolphin relies on a ton of libraries and shared components that have other maintainers |
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20:23.12 | simplew | Sho_: wouldnt be possible to put dolphin to resize the columns separators to automaticallt adjust size with double click on the separator? |
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20:23.42 | Sho_ | don't see why not |
20:23.44 | simplew | Sho_: or that is some that can be only handled by franck? |
20:24.02 | Sho_ | in fact, i'd say it's a bug that it doesn't work right now |
20:24.05 | simplew | for a long time that dolphin hasnt that working |
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20:25.27 | Sho_ | simplew: all KDE developer accounts have write access to all KDE sources |
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20:25.46 | Sho_ | and even without a developer account, anyone can submit a patch via ReviewBoard |
20:25.57 | simplew | Sho_: oh :) |
20:28.23 | simplew | Sho_: it would be cool it dolphin had that working (finally) |
20:28.32 | Sho_ | i agree |
20:28.49 | Sho_ | unfortunately if you are aiming for that, i currently don't have the time to take that on :) |
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20:32.39 | simplew | Sho_: well i would it if i knew how, but it worth to try |
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20:32.56 | simplew | Sho_: i mean, with you |
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20:33.37 | Sho_ | conceptually speaking you need to implement mouseDoubleClickEvent() on the header widget |
20:34.42 | Sho_ | http://lxr.kde.org/source/qt/src/gui/itemviews/qheaderview.cpp#2332 and so on for inspiration |
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20:35.19 | simplew | Sho_: im still only learning c |
20:35.27 | Sho_ | it's C++ |
20:35.28 | Sho_ | :) |
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20:37.37 | simplew | Sho_: yeap... |
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23:50.50 | Phr33d0m | enjoy KDE 4.9.3 guys |
23:52.28 | abveritas | Phr33d0m: you see any changes from 4.9.2? |
23:53.06 | Phr33d0m | I still haven't compiled it, but from the changelogs I see a couple of minor but useful changes |
23:53.38 | abveritas | running it 4 days now, not found any yet :) |
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23:59.09 | Phr33d0m | I have a very basic usage of KDE anyways, so I can't tell much about it... probably things I think are new in 4.9.3 have been there since 4.9.1 or 4.9.0 :P |