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00:01.37Zepp_f00dMonsta: i think work is being done on that issue ... http://www.progdan.cz/2012/09/display-management-in-kde/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=display-management-in-kde
00:02.18f00dMonstathx
00:02.26f00dMonstaI read that too, hence my reply above :x
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03:09.53salamanderrakehello
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03:10.45salamanderrakeare there any chance to remove the dependency on phonon-gstreamer?
03:11.30salamanderrakeanything except pulse audio
03:11.55thiagono
03:12.35thiagowait, dependency of what on phonon-gstreamer?
03:12.44thiagoit's a plugin, nothing should depend on it
03:13.14salamanderrakephonon's dependency on a back end like gstream is what i mean
03:13.48salamanderrakegstreamer pulls in libsoup and then glib-networking which causes issues and pulse is a nightmare
03:14.02thiagophonon does not depend on phonon-gstreamer
03:14.19salamanderrakei forgot about phonon having a pulse backend also
03:14.30salamanderrakeyah i realized it now
03:14.49salamanderrakewhich it was bugging me why i had phonon-gstreamer installed
03:17.30salamanderrakei have the issue where i get lag between kdm login and the kde splash screen
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03:36.12salamanderrakeremoving glib-networking + all of its dependents does not fix the issue
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04:48.06fritzophrenicdoes lightdm-kde-greeter support selecting which desktop enviroment to use like Ubuntu's default greeter?
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07:21.02swiftkeyhello there
07:21.32swiftkeyi am able to use dual monitors under gnome but not in kde
07:21.42swiftkeyhow can i fix it ?
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11:54.15JoeSomebodyanybody know how to make kde respect power management settings concerning my monitor NOT going off?
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12:14.33Phr33d0mJoeSomebody are you using vlc by any chance?
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12:17.08JoeSomebodyyes
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12:20.48JoeSomebodybut not when it goes off
12:22.02Phr33d0mI also have this problem, that's why I have a cron script that turns dpms off every 2-3 minutes
12:22.11Phr33d0mit's a dirty solution but at least it's something
12:23.18BluesKajHey all
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12:27.21JoeSomebodyPhr33d0m, could you let me have that ? :) i am not able to write one up (yet, still learning)
12:27.50Phr33d0mJoeSomebody I have this in my crontab: */2 * * * * /usr/bin/screendpmsoff
12:28.13Phr33d0mand that file contains: two lines: export DISPLAY=":0.0" and xset -dpms
12:28.35Phr33d0mdon't forget to `chmod +x` that file
12:28.55JoeSomebodyok thanks, saving this in my notes :)
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13:10.08JoeSomebodyprobably not :)
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13:11.02JoeSomebodyboth services are running
13:11.19JoeSomebodyi am using fedora 17 kde which is new to me
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13:11.46JoeSomebodyplanning on sticking with this one :)
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13:31.50georgelappieshow does one bind the windows key to the launcher? when I try to map the windows key it only picks it up as meta and wants me to press another key with it...
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14:06.39rozmuqhi. i got mint 13..kde 4.8.5
14:06.45rozmuqshgould i upgrade to 4.9.2?
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14:06.51rozmuqshould*
14:07.26Zepp__i dont use mint but upgrading to amarok 4.9.2 was quite smooth for me ...
14:07.37Zepp__aah not amarok i mean kde ^^
14:08.20rozmuq:)
14:08.31rozmuqwhat do u use?
14:09.01FlameReaper-PC4.9.2 was pretty chill
14:09.19FlameReaper-PCI think I've already given up on gnome 3 and unity
14:09.20FlameReaper-PCheh
14:09.52Zepp__using arch... and yeah kde just fits my needs
14:10.11rozmuqgr8. how do i install it in mint13 without problems? :D
14:10.21truexfan81idk who it was that put the Suspend desktop effects for fullscreen windows option in kwin but i want to thank them, its great, no tearing at all with vdpau decoding :)
14:11.05rozmuqtruexfan81,  it's by default?
14:11.06Zepp__doesnt mint rely on the ubuntu repos? - i think you have to enable backports or something
14:11.49truexfan81rozmuq: wasn't default on mine
14:12.11truexfan81i just turned it on a minute ago and was like whoa, that did something good
14:12.12truexfan81lol
14:12.47truexfan81is it still doing the vsync tho?
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14:13.32FlameReaper-PCnot sure if the kubuntu backports ppa is compatible with mint
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14:20.58rozmuqbtw, guys, if someone here using xchat, how can i make it go to tray instead of closing? ( mint13)
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14:25.22Phr33d0mrozmuq why don't you ask in #xchat ?
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14:31.36remusrozmuq: upgrading to newest kde in mint: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/08/install-kde-49-in-ubuntulinux-mint-new.html
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14:32.42remusbtw. if you want to use skype you better install it first to avoid problems. other than that my upgrade went smoothly
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14:41.07daggs1hello, is there a way to define DE session when using autologin in kdm?
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14:43.45FlameReaper-PCdaggs1: As far as I can remember, login first using the preferred DE, then open Login Screen under Settings
14:44.05FlameReaper-PCand set autologin
14:44.15FlameReaper-PCbecause KDM keeps track of the previously used DE IIRC
14:44.39daggs1FlameReaper-PC, so disable autologin, and loging manually with what I need and the enable autologin
14:44.40daggs1?
14:44.58FlameReaper-PCYes
14:46.02daggs1ok, sounds reasonable, will try, thanks.
14:49.19daggs1FlameReaper-PC, that won't work as I use a multi seat setup
14:49.35FlameReaper-PCmulti seat?
14:50.07daggs1yes, multiple terminals on one rigg
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14:53.14daggs1FlameReaper-PC, I;m already doing it for another seat, thing it, I'm not using the autologin.
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16:56.52moscownightsheya, i tried to do something what i Thought would be fairly simple, remap the konsole global background key to a different keycombination
16:57.17moscownightsI found the line of code I thought that set the key combination, changed it and rebuild it
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16:57.45Sho_moscownights: because changing the shortcut in the shortcuts dialog was too easy?
16:57.50moscownightsfor some reason it didnt stick because its still the old keycombination (ctrl-shift F12)
16:57.54moscownightshah
16:57.58moscownightsis it there
16:57.59moscownightslol
16:58.16moscownightswas wondering why it wouldbt be there
16:58.47moscownightstogglel background mod e
16:59.02Sho_let's put it this way, if it isn't there it's a bug
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16:59.23moscownightsyeap, i did not spend 2 hours trying to change it through rebuilding the src
16:59.26moscownightsif anyone asks
16:59.28moscownightsthanks Sho_
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17:00.03Sho_moscownights: you might also like Yakuake
17:00.39moscownightssounds like a guake clone?
17:00.42moscownightsill have a look
17:00.52Sho_moscownights: no, guake is a clone of yakuake
17:01.03Sho_(as are tilda and all the other shitty gnome knockoffs)
17:01.17moscownightsheh, my bad
17:01.21Sho_:)
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17:01.45moscownightswhoa, looks nice, imma dl it right away and report back
17:01.53Sho_enjoy
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17:11.05moscownightsreally like yakuake, thanks for tip, im off again
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17:59.08daggs1can /usr/share/config/kdm/Xsession be used to override the session which kdm is suppose to run?
17:59.43betahello,can anyone tell any pdf reader software which works in KDE
18:00.16daggs1okular
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18:01.03betacan you please provide the link for download 'okular'
18:03.10daggs1your pkg mgr?
18:04.29betasorry dont understand
18:04.38ompaulbeta: perhaps that is more of a question for your o/s debian fedora or whatever
18:05.07betaits KDE
18:05.33ompaulbeta: no, kde is the desktop environment - it sits on something else
18:06.13betai think open suse
18:06.27ompaulso do /join #opensuse
18:07.30betaok thanks ,
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21:18.52totsilencehey, does anybody know how to search for nepomuk tags in dolphin?
21:19.22vHandado you want to search for the files tagged with a particular tag?
21:19.28totsilenceyes
21:19.36totsilenceI think there's no way to do it from the gui at this moment
21:19.40vHandaclick on that tag
21:19.41totsilenceI'm using latest KDE and dolphin
21:20.00totsilenceyes it works if I navigate to a file
21:20.05totsilencethat's tagged
21:20.07totsilencelike I want
21:20.12totsilenceand then click on the tag on the right pane
21:20.19totsilencebut I'd like something linke
21:20.21totsilence*like
21:20.26totsilencenepomuksearch://hasTag:
21:20.28totsilenceI heared that should work
21:20.32vHandaright, you have a point
21:20.33totsilencebut it doesn't do it for me
21:20.42totsilenceany ideas?
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21:22.23vHandanepomuksearch:/?query=hasTag:TagName
21:22.29totsilenceI'll try
21:22.35vHandaweirdly enough this doesn't seem to work for me. Maybe I broke something
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21:23.51vHandalet me know if it doesn't work for you, that means it's also broken in 4.9
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21:23.58vHandaand I'll try to fix it
21:24.36vHandain 4.10, you'll be able to do something like this - 'tags:/TagName'
21:24.43totsilenceno it doesn't work
21:24.45vHandaor tags:/Tag1/Tag2/Tag3
21:24.46totsilence:/
21:24.51totsilenceoh that sounds good!
21:24.59totsilenceI mean if I click on the tag in the right pane
21:25.00vHandadamn. I haven't even gotten a single bug report
21:25.02totsilenceit WILL find the right files
21:25.06totsilenceso there is some way to query them
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21:25.16totsilencebut I just don't know how to do the query by hand
21:25.19totsilencehow to generate the search string
21:25.31totsilencebecause the one that seems to be used when I click them in the right pane is pretty cryptic
21:25.52vHandasorry. The hasTag method was the way to go. I don't personally use it, so I didn't notice that it was broken
21:26.01vHandathis is why people need to report bugs
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21:26.10totsilenceto be honest
21:26.12vHandaI'll fix it for 4.9.4?
21:26.21totsilencethe way to query for nepomuk information is very badly documented
21:26.26vHandaI agree
21:26.29totsilenceso I had to search pretty ahrd
21:26.33totsilenceto find this hasTag:....
21:26.49totsilenceand then I didn't assume it was a bug since it's easy to mess up
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21:26.54totsilencewith such a complicated query string
21:26.57vHandaright. "Proper user documentation". Adding it to my list.
21:27.00totsilencebut in general I agree
21:27.05totsilencedo you want me to report it?
21:27.07totsilenceon bugs.kde.org?
21:27.10totsilenceso there's a proper record
21:27.16vHandanah. I remember
21:27.21totsilencecool
21:27.30totsilencegreat!
21:27.34totsilencethanks a lot
21:27.38totsilencereally appreciate it
21:27.39vHandaYou're welcome
21:27.43totsilencedidn't want to sound harsh
21:27.47totsilenceI know it's a lot to do
21:27.50vHandanot at all
21:27.54totsilencemainting all of this :)
21:27.58totsilence*maintaining
21:27.59vHandaI'm happy to see people using it! :D
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22:57.55rindolfHi all. How do I stop virtuoso-t from running?
22:58.52Phr33d0mjust make akonadi not start automatically afair
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23:00.08Phr33d0mwhat I do is compile KDE without all that 'semantic-desktop' crap
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23:09.14BluesKajrindolf, isn't it tied to nepomuk  ?
23:09.43vHandarindolf: is nepomuk disabled in the kcm?
23:09.59vHandaBluesKaj: yes. It's the storage backend that we use.
23:10.43BluesKajrindolf, then disable desktop search in system settings
23:12.17BluesKajvHanda, yeah i always disable nepomuk and akonadi server , since I have no need for PIM
23:12.38BluesKajbeing a home user
23:12.42vHandacool
23:12.58vHandahopefully, I can convince you to try out nepomuk someday.
23:13.14vHandaEitherway, I'm not forcing anyone. Hence the option.
23:13.29BluesKajI'm a bit old school I still use krusader '
23:13.49vHandawow
23:13.52rindolfBluesKaj: excellent, thank you.
23:14.16vHandarindolf: did you have PIM enabled?
23:14.37rindolfvHanda: don't know.
23:14.50vHandado you see something like akonadi running?
23:14.52rindolfvHanda: I'm on Debian now and I installed a KDE 4 task.
23:15.01vHandaa KDE 4 task?
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23:15.26rindolfvHanda: I mean a set of packages.
23:15.36vHandauhm, okay
23:15.47vHandaDid you ever configure any email client?
23:16.00rindolfvHanda: I mean task-kde-desktop
23:16.04rindolfvHanda: no, I did not.
23:16.15vHandadamn. Virtuoso shouldn't be acting up then
23:16.25BluesKajrindolf, here's a method I use to keep akonadi and nepomuk disabled : You can disable akonadi in system settings>startup&shutdown>service manager , nepomuk search module (tied to akonadi), uncheck that.Then in session mangement , check "restore previous session" and add akonadi, nepomuk to the "applications to be excluded from sessions" text
23:17.03vHandauhm, or System Settings -> Semantic Desktop -> Disable
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23:18.12BluesKajwell, I like to make sure they stay disabled  :)
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23:36.05frikinzI made double sure by apt-get purging it ..
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