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02:32.16flapzkde__pepo: thanks.
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04:13.48einseenaiello, guys, i'm using kmail - it's absolutely great software, but i can't understand, how do i set it to reply above quote?
04:16.11einseenaioops, figured out.
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04:36.40bjrohanHey all
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04:37.46bjrohanI originally installed Ubuntu 11.10, upgraded to 12.04, then installed KDE. I have backed up my home dir, and now want to to a clean install of Kubuntu (I have run iso from thumb drive and it will work on my laptop). How do I do this?
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04:38.22bjrohanFrom iso thumb drive it when installing it wanted to take over whole hard drive, or create a new partition. my first partition still has windoze
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04:42.18bjrohanne1 here?
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04:51.59ogetprobably a common question but, what is the standard method of setting animated background in KDE?
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04:55.44ogethmm I guess the standard way exists only in 4.9
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05:12.36KetsubanHi. I'm using Arch Linux, KDE 4.9.1. I've set things up to use the desktop cube animation to switch between virtual desktops, but when I do that there's a tiny window with what looks like a button with a picture of a red X in it which appears while the animation is playing. It doesn't seem to do anything, but it's there and I'd like it to not be. How on earth do I find out what it is?
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05:15.15larksyrmHmm, if i disable "File transfers and other jobs" from the "Pop Up Notices" for the Notification Settings they NEVER show up at all... or at least they only show as a progress bar in Dolphin icon. Is that correct or am i missing something?
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05:53.53foormeahi. i see the zoom in/out keyboard shortcuts seem not to work anymore on yakuake 2.9.8. am i stupid and not finding the option to re-enable the ctrl-alt-+/- in the options or has it just disappeared?
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05:56.57Adapteefoormea: See https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306062
05:58.25foormeathanks Adaptee. i'll try and bump the bug, it's silly that there is no keybaord shortcut anymore
05:58.26foormeathanks!
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07:15.53lordievaderGood morning
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08:57.35hateballhmmm, is there any way to get the task bar in the panel to show "grouped" items? Like now I have 5 krdc windows grouped, so I can have it tabbed. but it still takes up 5 spaces in the task bar instead of one
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09:26.04boaraMouse gestures stoppped working completely without any notice. How can I see what's wrong?
09:26.33boaraE.g. is there a separate application for those?
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09:36.38tardalicioushow would i add an application to the favorites menu or to the internet menu?
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09:39.00lordievadertardalicious: Right click on an application, add to favorites. For the other right click on the Kmenu icon and hit Edit Applications
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09:39.48chaudharyi want to start a junior job that requires C, C++, Python. Any suggestions
09:42.17tardaliciouslordievader: i don't have 'add to favorites' when i right click the application
09:42.35tardaliciouslordievader: it's in /usr/bin, it runs fine if i drag it to the bottom bar near the clock, and it runs fine if i run it via command line
09:42.47tardaliciousbut i want it in that initial menu : /
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09:43.46tardaliciouschaudhary: yeah, learn how to code in those languages :P
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09:44.40lordievadertardalicious: What distro do you use?
09:44.58tardaliciouslordievader: centos 6.3
09:45.22tardaliciouslordievader: i also don't have edit applications in the kmenu
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09:45.50tardaliciouslordievader: either that or i'm retarded and don't know where to find that
09:45.58tardaliciouslordievader: but i definitely don't have that option in my right click context menu
09:46.14lordievadertardalicious: I use kubuntu myself.
09:46.24tardalicious>.<
09:46.53tardaliciousmeh, i guess it's okay for now, just wish i could find an answer to this, i'm sure i'll figure it out somewhere heh, i mean like, there's other applications in that menu
09:47.21tardaliciousfor now just having it on the bottom bar next to clock is working out okay
09:47.23chaudharytardalicious: sir with due respect, I know how to code in them, but i just don't know where to start, and how to start coding for kde.
09:47.32lordievadertardalicious: Does centos have their own channel here on Freenode? Perhaps there you will find your answer. Though I do think KDE shouldn't differ much from one distro to the next.
09:47.50tardaliciouslordievader: i already asked in #centos
09:47.57tardaliciouslordievader: haven't received a response yet
09:48.04lordievaderchaudhary: Try #kde-dev
09:48.16tapasi just installed a keyboard layout switcher in kde..
09:48.18tardaliciouslordievader: they're currently arguing about the shininess of RHEL vs the stability of centos ... heh
09:48.26tapasafter i did that keyboard and mouse started to make HUGE pauses..
09:48.26chaudharytardalicious: thanks
09:48.36tapasafter a relogin it seems to be OK..
09:48.47tapasi wonder what that was about
09:56.14boaraMouse gestures stoppped working completely without any notice. How can I see what's wrong?
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11:42.19Os_Maleus1hi, guys! ... would You like to tell me, which folders are those to be copied for kontact, that contain only the mails and the calendar, please!?
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11:56.23Os_Maleus\me still interested in the answer onto the question which folders would have to be copied for kontact, that contain only the mails and the calendar.
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12:08.36Phr33d0myou could try googling about it I guess
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12:12.19Os_Maleusof course, I could. that's true. ... but in the case of that philosophy, I would have one question: a) You are here, like me, to ask and I am wondering, why You Yourself are not googleing ... or b) if You are here to answer, how high Your tail grew now from Your last one. :-D
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12:13.03Os_Maleus... I hope, You didn't take me personally now, Phr33d0m! :-D
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12:25.55Os_Maleushow is it to copy the content of the ~/kmail-folder into that of ~/kmail2? does it blow up the system?
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12:49.36BluesKajHey all
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14:07.28boaraNone of my shortcut keys work (mediakeys for example). Which program needs to be running for that to work?
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14:14.18thiagoboara: kglobalacceld
14:14.55boarathiago: /usr/bin/kglobalaccel is running
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14:15.03boarathiago: the *d one is ont.
14:15.08boarathiago: is not
14:15.21thiagoright, sorry
14:15.28thiagothat's the one that needs to be running
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14:15.59boarathiago: but it doesn't respond to any configured hotkey.
14:16.17boaraAnother problem I have is that in the system tray some icons overlap with eachother.
14:16.47boaraI am talking complete overlap where you can see only 10 pixels or so of the other icon.
14:18.28thiagois kded4 running?
14:18.57boarathiago: no
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14:19.56boarathiago: should it?
14:21.28boarathiago: that seems to have helped.
14:21.33boarathiago: (starting it)
14:21.46boarathiago: except, why would it have ever exited in the first place?
14:22.03boarathiago: no core files have been generated.
14:22.22boarathiago: drkonqi also wasn't triggered and I was not informed of it crashing in any way.
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14:26.45rdieterboara: drkonqi generally only catches gui apps
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14:27.11rdieterI forget which class(es) it hooks into exactly
14:27.21boarardieter: ok, but also no core file.
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14:31.02thiagoboara: it's a daemon, it exits
14:31.09thiagobut it's running in the background
14:31.47boarathiago: are you saying that daemons still run after calling exit?
14:32.07thiagoyes
14:32.11thiagocheck if it's there in the process listing
14:32.46boarathiago: ok, I didn't know that. Still ps aux| grep kde4d didn't list anything.
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14:33.58rdietertry kded4
14:34.12boarardieter: I meant that one.
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14:35.35boarardieter: so, somehow kded4 died/was not displayed in ps aux|grep kded4 output, and it is a critical process, but not even an xmessage "We are so going to die" is displayed.
14:37.30rdietertrue, it's  not supposed to die. when/if it does, that's bad.
14:38.10rdieterand debugging that is ...  fun. :) http://kdepepo.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/troubleshooting-kded4-bugs/
14:39.59boarardieter: I think the memory trade-off is a bad one for desktop systems.
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14:42.46boaraIf you also want to have the one process optimization, you should just write a small compiler which does that.
14:43.03rdieterhopefully you realize that's marginally silly statement to make, almost as silly as my saying in reponse: you're welcome to write a bug-free replacement
14:43.22boarardieter: which one?
14:43.57boaraI think it's really a case of premature optimization, because by the time that kde4 is bug-free tablets will come with 10GB of memory.
14:44.08rdietereither, debating or criticizing kded design imo isn't a constructive way to get  your issue fixed
14:44.39rdieterbut criticize away if it makes you feel better
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14:45.19rdieter(I happen to agree with your criticism too)
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16:03.24PasNoxHi
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16:03.45PasNoxi know there is some Facebook dirty thing for uploading gallery on it from kde apps like Digikam / Gwenview.
16:03.54PasNoxdoes it exists similar plugin for picasa / google + ?
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16:09.31PasNoxhm i can't export to picasa from gwenview ? :(
16:11.39rindolfPasNox: maybe you need the right plugin.
16:11.50PasNoxi can see picasa / facebook etc
16:11.55PasNoxbut i cna only import
16:12.08PasNoxwhil i remember in last kde i was able to export ( upload ) too
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16:22.15PasNoxi can't succesfull configure kontact to use google caldav / carddav, anybody succes in that ?
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16:32.50rindolfPasNox: I was able to do it in KDE-4.8.x.
16:32.55rindolfPasNox: using KOrganizer.
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18:53.32RanomierHey guy im frustrated^^
18:53.45Ranomieri have a cyberlink remote control under archlinux
18:54.05Ranomierbut in kremote there was no device shown, so i googled
18:55.10Ranomierhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LIRC | http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Configure_your_Cyberlink_Media_Centre_Remote_on_Linux
18:56.24RanomierThis two website conflict
18:56.26Ranomier^^
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18:57.00Ranomiersry for my bad english, but can anyone help me out? and configure with me that device?
18:57.16RanomierFor using it with kremote?
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19:17.52ozzzyI wonder why 99% of people would need the source code
19:19.48RanomierCan me help anyone?
19:22.06BluesKajRanomier, ask your question
19:23.18RanomierOk my problem ist to use a cyberlink remote controll with lirc, my RC device is shown as keyboard and mouse in my system, but i want it as lirc device
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19:24.02dmarkeyanyone know where to get dockmanager API documentation?
19:24.21RanomierSo i followed that bove howtos, i posted but there both bad^^
19:25.08Ranomierhttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/1853636
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19:25.43BluesKajxbmc Ranomier ?
19:25.56Ranomiernot only but for the beginning
19:26.04Ranomieryes
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19:27.07BluesKajRanomier, http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Configure_your_Cyberlink_Media_Centre_Remote_on_Linux
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19:28.02RanomierxD i posted that above xD i tried this.
19:28.21Ranomierbut no output with "irw" command.
19:31.23Ranomierim under archlinux
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19:35.57deathraider1620_Hi, All!
19:37.13lordievaderHey deathraider1620_, how are you?
19:37.41deathraider1620_I'm fine. How are you?
19:37.55lordievaderdeathraider1620_: I'm doing good, thank you for asking.
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19:38.43RanomierIm a litte frustrated with that thing ... ^^
19:38.58Ranomierlittle*
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19:40.43BluesKajRanomier, I wasn't here when you posted the xbmc/linux tutorial
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19:41.07Ranomieroh sry for that^^
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19:41.15BluesKajran  I didn't mean to duplicate
19:41.19BluesKajRanomier,
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19:42.09BluesKajis xbmc the only alternative for that remote , Ranomier ?
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19:42.52Ranomierno i want it too used it with amarok too, but thirst i want see it in the kde remote tool^^
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19:47.37deathraider1620_So lordievader, what are you doing?
19:47.49RanomierCan i help u with pastebin something?
19:48.07lordievader!ot | deathraider1620_
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19:48.31lordievaderdeathraider1620_: Ok, no bot here... This is a support channel not a community channel.
19:48.47deathraider1620_ok
19:49.06deathraider1620_i thought it was the development channel
19:49.40deathraider1620_actually i 'm looking for some linux development channels
19:50.15lordievaderdeathraider1620_: There are quite a few here on freenode: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
19:50.44deathraider1620_thanks! i will surely chech it out
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20:10.05L3thalhello all, i have desktop entries with the correct icon path, but icons not showing
20:10.08L3thalany idea ?
20:15.26Leifpermssions on the icons?
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20:29.53L3thalLeif: nop
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20:30.45L3thalthe icon appears when i click the properties of the entry
20:31.10L3thalcould that be a package/library missing ?
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20:38.49dzanhi, trying to build kile with live preview support using this: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/kile/index.php?title=Live_Preview
20:39.09dzani'm running debian squeeze ( crunchbang is the distro actually ) and installing kdelibs5 and kdelibs5-dev
20:39.26dzanthe make still complains about too old version ( req is 4.6 and up :s ) any ideas?
20:42.14muepuse a less ancient OS for building new applications
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20:42.56dzan... that's helpful..
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21:02.41ezakimakmy console-kit-daemon is using 4GB ram. anyway to fix this?
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21:16.14ezakimakalso, ctrl-f3 through ctrl-f6 and alt-f4 no longer work--i cannot seem to figure out why
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21:22.34hagabakarecently, when I close the laptop lid and later open it, and then log back in to KDE, it would go to sleep again, and I have to press the power button to wake it up. Anyone know how to fix it?
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21:44.53Os_Maleushi!
21:46.08eeanmwhy can't I use the 'week' view in korganizer? the icon is grayed out
21:46.13Os_Maleuscan somebody tell me, where kleopatra is saving its certification data? is it possible to have access to those from a backup of the home-folder/partition.
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22:42.14Brustofski-FanNo one in #archlinux is answering..   Trying to set clock in kde to current time i get.. ( Unable to authenicate/execute the action:4
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22:46.55ezakimaktry sudo /etc/init.d/ntpd start
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22:51.33Brustofski-Fanezakimak, sudo: /etc/init.d/ntpd: command not found
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22:55.59Phr33d0mBrustofski-Fan pacman -S ntp
22:56.36Brustofski-Fanalready installed that... just look in apper ntpd not installed
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23:01.42Phr33d0mBrustofski-Fan the path in arch is: /etc/rc.d/ntp<something> start
23:02.57Phr33d0mhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NTP google & arch's wiki are your friends
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23:09.53Brustofski-FanThanks reboot and if anything happens
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23:50.10bjrohanHey there. What is the shortcut to move between virtual desktops, and more importantly where do I change it?
23:54.50N9NUCTRL+F1 - F4
23:56.07N9NUby default, global shortcut for that is not defined. Systemsettings---->Worspace Behaviour--->Switching
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23:56.43N9NUyou can assign a macro to naviage through them all...instead of selecting each 1 manually
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