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00:02.47ct|kyleIs there any way to remove the bouncy ball widget. I was messing with its settings and it won't stop bouncing.
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00:05.48FLHernect|kyle: Chase it with your mouse :P
00:06.06FLHerneI have a l9ot of fun trying to catch mine :-)
00:06.30FLHerneWait till it's bouncing vertically at the edge, then it's easiest ;-)
00:06.35ct|kyleFLHerne: ya I made it too small and the speed /path varies too much
00:08.15aliquisct|kyle: one can't hold the mouse over it and get the bar with an X on it?
00:08.28aliquisct|kyle: if not click widgets and see if it stands still from that screen?
00:09.18ct|kylealiquis: not while it is moving and still moves when clicking wigets
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00:12.09FLHernect|kyle: Can be done, just takes longer
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00:12.41FLHerneTried hunting one on one of those big touch-screen projected whatsits? Great fun :D
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00:13.13ct|kyleisent it stored in some config
00:14.04FLHernect|kyle: Possibly, but that would be boring :P
00:15.25ct|kyleactually even easier, remove the desktop :)
00:16.27ct|kyleI honestly don't think i would have been able to ever catch it
00:17.50FLHernect|kyle: You could have just left ut until you finally did :P
00:17.57FLHerneNothing like a challenge :D
00:18.34aliquisct|kyle: Guess I have to enable it and try
00:18.38aliquisdamn you if I can't get rid of it
00:18.40aliquis;D
00:19.37aliquisMine stands still
00:19.45aliquisif I clicked it it bounced and then stopped bouncing
00:19.59aliquisand I could just close it like everything else
00:20.03aliquisare you clicking it? why? =P
00:20.09ct|kylealiquis: make sure to make it really small, disable gravity and friction. and lit it bounce randomly
00:20.17aliquisno thanks
00:20.19aliquis:D
00:20.32aliquisso it will bounce forever for you?
00:20.37ct|kyleyes
00:20.42aliquis"cool" ;D
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00:21.21ct|kyleI thought in previous KDE versions you could remove them
00:21.34ct|kylefrom the widgets menu
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00:22.48aliquistried to google it?
00:23.15lnxslckhow can i run the knetworkmanagement tool from the console?
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00:46.23cb400flnxslck: 'plasmoidviewer org.kde.networkmanagement' or so... or maybe what you actually want is 'nmcli'
00:47.07FLHernect|kyle: For future reference, it's ~/.kde/share/config/plama-desktop-appletsrc to stop the bouncing ;-)
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04:46.31zed_hi I am using kubuntu 12.04 on this laptop and >I am having problems with the wireless
04:46.43zed_there is no network manager app on the taskbar, and I can't find it in the menus
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04:51.08aliquisI was going to suggest apt-get install knetworkmanager or something but well, that depends on if you got any connection (or cd) I suppose
04:51.38zed_aliquis: there is no knetworkmanager package
04:51.43zed_I was just looking for that
04:52.02aliquishttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/knetworkmanager
04:52.04aliquisweird
04:52.17zed_what ?
04:52.18aliquisapt-get install network-manager-kde
04:52.19aliquis?
04:52.19zed_its gone
04:52.50zed_nice, that one installed.
04:52.52aliquis=P
04:52.54zed_thanks aliquis
04:53.02zed_now, how to run..
04:53.44aliquisso knetworkmanager was a dummy package for network-manager-kde, I wonder why they had that package, or don't have it now, or why network-manager-kde isn't called knetworkmanager in the first place. I thought it was called the later.
04:53.53aliquisclick the right part of the panel
04:54.06aliquisand add widgets
04:54.09aliquisand look around for it
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04:56.41zed_aliquis: ok I have it there
04:56.49aliquisdouble click it
04:56.53aliquisand it will be added to the panel
04:57.01zed_good its there
04:57.06aliquisthen close the stuff and click it
04:57.10zed_now, for some reason it doesn't detect any wifi networks..
04:57.29aliquiswell, there you are left alone =P
04:57.37aliquisbecause I have no experience with wireless in linux :)
04:57.44aliquisdoes it usually find something?
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05:07.08aliquisHow does it go?
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05:13.16zed_aliquis:
05:13.25zed_hey not bad this computer is out of date
05:13.28zed_we are doing updatees
05:13.38zed_its gotta be a driver issue
05:13.59zed_we'll see
05:14.54zed_aliquis: the networking manager program has a "enable wireless" button, but it is greyed out
05:15.01zed_doesn't allow me to check it
05:15.14zed_also, the hardware drivers program for kde, doesn't show any drivers for the wireless network.
05:15.23zed_so I am not sure if there is drivers or not installed for the wireless
05:16.49aliquisI suppose there's guides to figure out what chipset it is and then install the necessary driver
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05:18.07zed_aliquis: any idea how to find out what type of hardware it is </
05:18.09zed_?
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05:48.51mark4hi. i just installed kde4 int a virtualbox vm to check it out. like it so far but i want to add some apps that are in myh ~/bin to my launch bar. there does not seem to be the equiv of gnomes "add custom application"
05:48.54mark4how would i do this?
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05:53.43mark4ha lol nvm i just found them under lost and found. how do i get things to be put in there because i did it by accident with these two apps. they wernt under that menu item to begin with lol
05:53.45aliquiszypper install filename
05:54.19aliquisoh, well, no, you are talking package manager in #kde
05:54.20aliquis:D
05:54.32aliquisadd custom application was likely distribution specific
05:54.35aliquisnot gnome specific
05:55.00mark4hrm dont think so but maybe, ive not used anythning but gentoo since forever lol
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05:57.17aliquisso you are using gentoo now?
05:57.39aliquisthey aren't in portage?
05:58.09mark4im using gentoo yes. are what not in portage?
05:58.18mark4the apps i wanted to add to the launch bar?
05:58.22mark4no. one is inelij idea
05:58.27mark4the other is sublime text 2
05:58.58mark4but i launched them  by hand and somehow i got iconsunder lost and found menu for them and was thus able to right click and add
05:59.13aliquisare they source code tar balls?
05:59.34mark4no. they are binaries
05:59.37aliquisI don't get what you're typing but it works now?
05:59.38aliquisk
05:59.44mark4intelij ide is a java IDE
06:00.00mark4sublime text 2 is an awesome source editor that works in windows and linux. its shareware and i regged it
06:01.05mark4yes it works now lol
06:01.44mark4thers a lost and found menu item. both apps found there way in there
06:03.17mark4aha!
06:03.28mark4thers a way to add things to the meus.!!!
06:04.06mark4just do edit apps and u get the kde meny editor. in there you can click on the +new item button
06:04.08mark4yay :)
06:05.45mark4k. ive hated on KDE and gnome for over 10 years.  just built a system for my father and installed gnome for him. was going to go wth gnome 3 and the more i learn about it the more i think the gnome devs have lost their minds.  decided to try KDE here in a VM and am now sold on it lol
06:05.57mark4so maybe ill switch to KDE 4 on my main desktop too now lol
06:07.48mark4yea. i think it will only take about half an hour or so to emerge this anyway
06:08.38mark4will miss all my smexy windowmaker dockapps tho :P
06:08.51mark4is there a dock widget that can dock wm apps?
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06:41.14mah454Hello
06:41.32mah454I want to change default clock format to jalali .
06:41.35mah454How can do this ?
06:42.15mah454default to jalali calendar ...
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06:48.17Jd`awayHi Is it possible to run KDE plasma networkmanager in gnome?
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07:00.14thiagoJd`away: you need to run plasma, which is basically half of what defines what the KDE Workspace is
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07:18.27Jd`awaythiago, So its possible right?
07:18.49thiagoJd`away: yes
07:19.02thiagoJd`away: shut down gnome-shell, start plasma-desktop
07:19.12Jd`awayoh
07:19.29Jd`awaything is , im unable to connect to my network with nm on gnome, but it works fine on kde
07:19.32Jd`awayweird
07:19.45thiagothe easiest way to do that is: KDEWM=mutter startkde
07:19.54thiagoassuming you meant to use mutter as your WM
07:20.05Jd`awaymk
07:20.32Jd`awaybye
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07:41.27lordievaderGood morning
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09:03.08ArcaikHi. With Ubuntu, when I do « ssh foo@bar », there is a window that ask me the password for the ssh key I trying to use. Is there a way to do that in KDE with ksshaskpass ?
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09:17.06lordievaderArcaik: Are you trying to access it through the cli?
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09:19.18Arcaiklordievader: I’m not sure to understand your question but, yes, I’m runing ssh in a terminal.
09:20.44ArcaikThe question is : how can I force ssh to use $SSH_ASKPASS even if it is launched from a term ?
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09:24.15lordievaderArcaik: About that I'm not sure, however you can use "ssh-add" to load the key into memory.
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09:26.51Arcaiklordievader: I have multiple keys and I don’t want the keys to be loaded if not necessary.
09:27.44ArcaikI realy try to reproduce what Ubuntu (with Unity/GNOME) does.
09:30.11lordievaderArcaik: I see, unfortunatly I cannot help you with this problem. Good luck!
09:31.06Arcaiklordievader: thank you
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09:33.04mah454this script is true ? clock.calendarType("jalali");
09:33.26mah454I want add this to DefaultLayout.js in KDE templates ...
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09:42.12Gorrothhi guys
09:42.43Gorrothokay.. took me a bit to get KDE working how i liked with the proprietary ATI driver and everything, but my OCD finally got me there
09:42.46Gorrothnow
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09:43.11Gorrothone last item of OCD i'm having... is there a way to make the themed KDM's input boxes wider without doing something to the theme itself?
09:48.16Sonderbladeis there a way to disable the "activity in console X" notifications kde gives out?
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10:15.19Klaus_Dieterhello world
10:15.27Klaus_Dieterkmail suddenly creates every mail using html
10:15.30Klaus_Dieterhow can I turn this off?=
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10:15.55Klaus_Dieterthe respective setting is unset (use html to create new messages)
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10:17.29Klaus_Dieterso I would expect every mail I write to be plain text
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10:19.52thiagoOptions | Formatting (HTML)
10:19.55thiagouncheck that
10:22.17Gorrothis there a way to make KDM display on a monitor other than what's choosing by default right now?
10:22.27Gorrothit keeps choosing a silly setup and putting KDM on the secondary monitor
10:22.49Gorrothi have my logged-in desktop setup correctly with KDE knowing what the primary monitor is
10:22.52Gorrothbut KDM i still wrong
10:23.04Klaus_DieterGorroth: you probably can use the xsetup file in etc to set up which monitor is primary and which is secondary
10:23.08Klaus_Dieterand runn xrandr from there
10:23.21Klaus_Dieterg2g though
10:23.35Klaus_DieterI hope just throwing you this bone will get you a little further...
10:23.44Gorroththanks; i'll do the research tomorrow
10:23.49Gorrothi'll go to sleep now and finish it up then
10:24.01Klaus_Dieterhf
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11:39.58mah454Hello
11:40.50BluesKajHiyas all
11:40.54mah454How can set it ? holidayRegions (tbd): tbd
11:40.59mah454what is tbd ?
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15:24.24cobra-the-jokerHey guys ... Which distribution uses vanilla KDE and keep it updated ?
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15:31.08Adapteecobra-the-joker: Arch and Gentoo
15:32.36cobra-the-jokerAdaptee: nice , thanx
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16:19.14chris062689What approperate channel would be for developing KDE plasma widgets using QML?
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16:21.05Phr33d0mchris062689 probably #kde-devel
16:21.23chris062689Ok thanks Phr33d0m.
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16:47.02niggauserHey guys. I can't connect to my Wifi. I'm getting "Waiting for authorization", then it fails. Help please.
16:47.27rindolfniggauser: how is this a KDE question?
16:47.39rindolfniggauser: and you should change your nickname.
16:48.10niggauserI am using kde?
16:48.21niggauserIt's a common problem in KDE
16:48.39rindolfniggauser: KDE does not handle the wifi connection.
16:48.52rindolfniggauser: what is your OS+distro+version?
16:48.58niggauserbut the network manager does
16:49.10niggauserKubuntu 12.4
16:49.21niggauserlol
16:49.36niggauserChanged the encryption to AES. Worked
16:49.45niggauserWhy doesn't it work with TKIP?
16:50.03niggauserin KDE 4.8.5 it worked fine
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16:53.24niggauserweird. I thought updates are ment to fix things not to break them
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19:00.11yecril71plHow can I play mkv?  gst-launch plays it all right but it cannot scroll
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19:05.43thiagoyecril71pl: not a KDE question
19:05.46thiagoI use mplayer
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19:20.04killownyecril71pl, vlc
19:25.09aliquisI don't know what scroll means but if it's jump to a different location in a clip then I can only assume mplayer should also be able to do it =P, install more codecs? :D
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19:28.43Phr33d0mmac users don't know what a scroll button is in a mouse :P
19:33.58yecril71plgst-launch does not scroll
19:34.21Phr33d0mthen don't use gst-launch
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19:34.43yecril71plKDE can use GStreamer, GStreamer can play mkv.
19:34.54yecril71plWhy can’t KDE play mkv?
19:35.10Phr33d0mwrong
19:35.22yecril71plwhich part is wrong?
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19:36.12thiagoyecril71pl: what KDE program are you using that uses GStreamer?
19:36.30yecril71plAmarok
19:36.41mark4got a minor problem with  a new install of kde4. every time i launch kde4 there are 2 instances of konkurer on my launch bar. i remove both. i log out. i log back in and they are both back again
19:36.48thiagoAlt+F2, Phonon
19:36.55thiagowhat backend are you using/
19:36.59aliquisPhr33d0m: What is it used for in a video? change position?
19:37.06aliquisyecril71pl: mplayer doesn't use phonon I think
19:37.11yecril71plbackend gstreamer
19:37.25aliquisvlc possibly, dragonplayer, kaffeine, bangarang do afaik
19:37.27thiagoyecril71pl: isn't mkv video?
19:37.38yecril71plit is
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19:37.45aliquisplay video in amarok?
19:37.48thiagoyecril71pl: why are you using an audio application to play a video?
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19:38.19yecril71plI am not; I wonder which application I can use to play mkv.
19:38.20aliquis"and why are you using amarok at all!" ? ;D
19:38.30thiagoyecril71pl: mplayer
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19:38.42Klaus_Dieterdragon should do it too
19:38.44thiagoyecril71pl: dragon player, kaffeine, vlc
19:39.05aliquisyecril71pl: mplayer likely come with the codecs, vlc likely to, if you install all codec for gstreamer dragonplayer, kaffeine, bangarang likely use those and play it.
19:39.09ukamatahi, I have a problem with the keyboard, i can't write "accents", I checked all my settings and it's ok, for example, I type: "´" + "a" and it will write "´a", not "á".
19:39.10yecril71plKaffeine does not play mkv, mplayer and vlc are not KDE applications
19:39.34aliquiskaffeine like do it if the backend supports it
19:39.44thiagoukamata: which application are you testing this on?
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19:39.47yecril71plKaffeine is hardwired to xine
19:39.48aliquisas in if you have gstreamer installed with the plugin which plays mkv it plays it
19:39.56aliquisinteresting
19:40.06aliquiskaffeine couldn't play video or audio on my machine due to wanting vdpau
19:40.11aliquismaybe now I know why then :D
19:40.19aliquishow retarded
19:40.29yecril71plGwenview can also play video
19:40.50ukamatathiago Konversation, Konsole, not problem with nonkde apps, like chromium or xterm
19:40.54aliquis(someone claimed vlc would use the phonon backend but it seemed weird considering it comes with it's own codecs but can I go with that it doesn't now when you say so?)
19:40.54yecril71pland I suppose it plays via Qt
19:41.18thiagoukamata: pastebin the output of setxkbmap -print, please
19:41.22yecril71plbut Gwenview does not show me the mkv so I cannot try
19:42.41aliquisI have no mkv file but I've got smplayer2, vlc and both gstreamer + ugly + bad + fluendo and vlc backends installed. I assume any (mplayer, vlc or kde based) player would play mkv.
19:42.55thiagoukamata: and the output of locale too, please
19:43.27yecril71plWell, Kaffeine does not and Gwenview does not.
19:44.22yecril71plI do not know about Dragonplayer, except that it does not register a handler for mkv
19:44.27ukamatathiago http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10562
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19:45.06mark4can anyone tell me why kde keeps putting two instances of an app that i removed back onto my laun ch bar?
19:45.28mark4every time i startx the application is back on my bar and there are two of it
19:45.32aliquisyecril71pl: Do you have ffmpeg plugin for gstreamer installed?
19:45.35ukamatathiago http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10563
19:45.53thiagoukamata: ok, everything looks fine so far
19:46.09yecril71plaliquis: as I said, gst-launch plays the file all right.
19:46.26thiagoukamata: do you have /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose ?
19:46.33aliquisbut you also said you played with mplayer which doesn't use gstreamer?
19:46.47aliquisif you play with something which use gstreamer I assume it would work then?
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19:47.01aliquisand since phonon use gstreamer I assume any kde application which use phonon would play it?
19:47.05aliquistry dragonplayer?
19:47.08yecril71plI do not have mplayer installed
19:47.10ukamatathiago yes, but not es_ES.UTF-8/Compose
19:47.27aliquisso what had you use and where do I get mplayer from? =P
19:47.38aliquis[21:05] <thiago> I use mplayer
19:47.40aliquis=P
19:47.49thiagoukamata: that's fine. Can you pastebin the compose.dir file that's inside?
19:48.01thiagoukamata: sorry, that's in /usr/share/X11/locale/
19:48.09yecril71pl[21:38] <thiago> yecril71pl: mplayer
19:48.29thiagoyecril71pl: so why don't you install it?
19:48.49yecril71plI would like a KDE player, please.
19:49.06mark4kde's ksystemlog assumes  /var/log/syslog and gentoo does not use that. how do i change it to /var/log/messages
19:49.25mark4nvm foundit
19:50.06ukamatathiago http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pastie/10564
19:50.51mark4how do i make the mouse wheel shade and unshade windows
19:51.00thiagoukamata: everything is fine. I don't know what's wrong.
19:51.01aliquisyecril71pl: tried with dragonplayer?
19:51.06ukamata:(
19:51.47ukamataOk, i have to go, i'll back later
19:51.50ukamatathanks anyway.
19:52.16yecril71plI have just installed dragonplayer
19:52.30yecril71pland it does play the mkv
19:53.05yecril71plbut when I tell dragonplayer to open a file, the file is not available
19:53.16yecril71plI have to type its name in the file requester
19:53.48aliquisweird
19:54.41aliquispersonally I would had been ok with dropping the gstreamer backend, replace it with vlc and play through vlc =P, but I assume dragonplayer + gstreamer should work to.
19:55.15yecril71plIt does, except that it is to shy to show it
19:55.20yecril71plIt does, except that it is too shy to show it
19:55.45aliquis:)
19:55.49Gorrothis there a way to make KDM display on a monitor other than what's choosing by default right now?  it keeps choosing a silly setup and putting KDM on the secondary monitor
19:55.57Gorrothi have my logged-in desktop setup correctly with KDE knowing what the primary monitor is
19:56.19aliquisyecril71pl: try bangarang instead
19:56.27aliquisthen, both play both video and audio
19:56.34aliquisI think the interface of bangarang is weird
19:56.43aliquisbut it's likely better for video than audio / playlists
19:57.08cb400fdoesn't matter how many phonon apps you try when gstreamer sucks
19:57.33cb400fthe problem apparently exists in straight gstreamer apps
19:57.44cb400fso it's not even a phonon bug.. just gstreamer suckager
19:58.02yecril71plopenSUSE does not give me bangarang
19:58.14yecril71plgstreamer plays it all right
19:58.23aliquisi have opensuse and bangarang
19:58.31yecril71plDragonplayer plays it all right
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19:58.52yecril71plthe only problem with dragoplayer is that dragonplayer does not know it can play the file
19:59.27yecril71plApper found nothing for bangarang
19:59.30aliquisRepository: openSUSE-12.2-KDE49-Extra
19:59.39aliquisif you don't use opensuse add kde extra repository
19:59.40cb400fyecril71pl: add the frigging kde:extra repo
19:59.44aliquisdon't use kde4.9 even
19:59.58cb400fit's not like you started using linux yesterday
20:00.05cb400for opensuse for that matter
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20:00.31yecril71plSo, openSUSE does not give me bangarang.  I have to use a satellite repo for it.
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20:01.08cb400fand stop using apper
20:01.29cb400fgstreamer and apper... you're just looking for something to complain about
20:01.35yecril71plYou stop installing apper, I stop using it :-)
20:01.54cb400fyast and zypper are installed too... use those
20:02.00aliquismy repos http://pastebin.com/BWdaV4Rj
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20:03.07mark4how do i unblur the window tabs on my taskbar? they are all totalluy smudged and unreadable
20:03.17mark4including the window that haas focus
20:04.26aliquisconfigure desktop - desktop effects - unclick enable effects at startup?
20:04.35cb400fscreenshot? .. what plasma theme are you using?
20:04.47aliquisor go to all effects and uncheck blur?
20:04.50mark4no. that disables all effects. not the blured taskbar tabs
20:05.03aliquisso only disable blur then
20:05.09mark4!!!!!!!!!!
20:05.17mark4how do i disable the blur of the tasbar tabs?
20:05.23aliquisheh
20:05.28aliquisi don't know for taskbars specifically ;D
20:05.46aliquiswho knows whatever it can be done =P
20:06.50cb400fsystemsettings -> workspace appearance -> desktop theme -> details
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20:07.14mark4aha
20:07.27cb400f.. choose taskbar look from a different theme
20:07.49yecril71plInteresting.  Apper offered me to launch dragon player after I installed it but it does not offer me to launch bangarang
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20:08.19mark4tyvm :)
20:08.51yecril71pland bangarang describes itself as an audio player
20:09.29aliquisyecril71pl: Maybe it's a result of the same thing which eventually put dragonplayer in your menu at installation but bangarang not until you have logged out and logged in again.
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20:10.23yecril71plBangarang appeared immediately as an audio player, no log-in required.
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20:11.00aliquisok
20:11.16aliquissome of them didn't, don't remember which ones
20:11.35yecril71plIt does not support Places in the file chooser
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20:12.48yecril71plAnd no, bangarang does not show my mkv file either
20:12.55aliquisI don't get why it can't play some contect while still have the media list up
20:13.03aliquisannoying to switch for music
20:13.54aliquisis that due to some trytofigureoutwhatfileitis KDE magic?
20:14.04yecril71plI switched it to Video mode
20:14.46yecril71pl(KDE knows what mkv is but KDE does not know a handler for mkv)
20:15.03thiagoyecril71pl: have you tried mplayer already?
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20:15.27yecril71plWhy would I ask for mplayer in #KDE?
20:16.21thiagoyecril71pl: dragon player?
20:16.41aliquishe's tried it
20:16.48aliquisneither of dragonplayer or bangarang show his matroska files in the file dialog
20:16.51aliquisbut both play them
20:17.06thiagowhat is the filter in the file dialog?
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20:17.43yecril71plAll supported files
20:17.56thiagothen my guess is that it's a bug in those applications
20:18.04thiagothey aren't adding all supported files
20:18.06yecril71plBingo.
20:18.17aliquisor rather in whatever which decide what's supported
20:18.19aliquissince it's broken in both
20:19.03aliquisAlso if I in lancelot choose leave log out
20:19.09aliquisI get a dialog with options to log out and restart
20:19.14aliquiswhy do I have to choose log out twice?
20:19.22yecril71plI cannot get bangarang to see the mkv file.
20:19.23aliquisIf I wanted to restart I'd pick leave restart
20:19.24aliquis;D
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20:21.14thiagoreport the bugs and be done with it
20:21.20GorrothKlaus_Dieter: actually, your info really helped
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20:22.14GorrothKlaus_Dieter: xrandr wouldn't help me when i put it into the /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup for whatever reason (was using the command correctly), but i saw that xrandr is like changing xorg.conf at runtime... so i went to xorg.conf and found the option i needed to add, and all is good now
20:22.29Gorrothokay guys.. when i resize my konsole screen, it will flicker and doesn't render correctly
20:22.44Gorrothjust showing the KDE background until i find someway to refresh the whole konsole window
20:22.54Gorrothanyone else having this problem on the proprietary ATI drivers and knows how to fix it?
20:23.43ozzzyso where is Desktop Search supposed to be in System Settings
20:24.14aliquisnepomuk
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20:28.26yecril71plI suppose the problem is that the list for supported media formats is not fixed but it depends on the back end
20:28.44yecril71plso there is no easy way to list all of them
20:29.09yecril71plexcept when you register for audio/* video/* and image/*
20:29.30yecril71plbut I am not sure you can under the present desktop infrastructure
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20:30.51Gorrothhello?  is there a way to stop the flicker of konsole when resizing it?  i'm on the ATI catalyst drivers
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20:34.51Phr33d0mGorroth have you been OC-ing your GPU?
20:36.56GorrothPhr33d0m: no.  this is a fresh install of kubuntu after having used Windows 7 for a long time
20:37.51Gorrothit's not just a flicker really.  when i stop the resize, konsole still shows the desktop wallpaper until i find a way to refresh the main konsole window
20:37.53Phr33d0mthis is mostly your video driver's problem, not KDE related, you could try asking in your distro's channel for any assistance
20:37.53FLHernedoesn't have that
20:38.12FLHerneI also have the Catalyst drivers, HD7770
20:38.13Gorrothi think it's KDE-related; it only happens with this app
20:38.27Gorrothno other applications have this problem
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20:43.34Gorrothyeah, definitely a konsole problem.  even when i disable desktop effects, it's still the only app having problems.  all other apps/dialog windows are fine
20:43.43ozzzyaliquis: no nepomuk in my system settings
20:44.36Gorrothi'm guessing konsole has buggy code related to refresh
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20:46.14FLHerneActually, I seem to remember having that with 4.8...
20:46.19FLHernehas 4.9 now :-)
20:47.26Gorrothooooh... well, i'll wait a few days for Kubuntu 12.10 and try again
20:47.31Gorrothhopefully it'll be fixed in newer KDE
20:48.04GorrothFLHerne: are you using kubuntu?  if you are, maybe you can tell me how to manually upgrade to the latest KDE?
20:48.10Gorrothwithout build from source... some repo or something?
20:53.58Gorrothfound out how :)
20:54.04Gorrothi'll do the upgrade later and see hwo it goes
20:54.14Gorroththanks for the tip, FLHerne.  hopefully it resolves the issue
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20:56.47ozzzywell... supposedly there is a nepomuk thing in here... but damned if I can find it
20:57.40MoviuroHi all ! I'm looking for an empty KWin decoration : no border, no buttons, no titlebar. Does it exist ?
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21:10.59FLHerneGorroth: Good luck. 4.9 is better anyway :-)
21:11.26FLHerneremembers how awful 4.0 was and shudders :P
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21:24.54Gorrothi don't think i even really tried 4.0... i think i was getting into OS X right around that time
21:25.01Gorrothbut i'm glad to hear 4.9 is a lot better :)
21:25.16Gorrothbut now that Steam is coming to linux imminently, i'm all over Linux again
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21:51.25aliquisGorroth: is your problem that you don't have any desktop search?
21:52.23aliquisworkspace apperance & behavior -> desktop search
21:52.36aliquisbasic settings
21:52.53aliquisenable nepomux semantic desktop
21:53.06aliquisenable nepomuk file indexer
21:53.10aliquis-x+k
21:53.29aliquissorry for giving you the wrong name for the settings item but I was going so I couldn't check, thought it was called nepomuk there to
21:53.37aliquisGorroth: if you don't have it I suppose you have to install it
21:54.46aliquisi | nepomuk-core | The KDE Nepomuk Core Library | package
21:54.48aliquisis what I have installed
21:55.54aliquisozzzy: you can't find it unless it's installed
21:56.13aliquissame with instant messaging and voip
21:56.33aliquisyou won't have that icon in the configurationthingy unless you actually have telepathy and/or ktp installed
21:56.54aliquisozzzy: and the above was likely to you and not Gorroth
21:58.30Gorrothi'm not talkign about desktop search
21:58.34Gorroththat was someone else
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22:03.01SiegeLordIs it possible to create and manage window groups from shell (my KDE is 4.8)? Like I have a script that creates 10 gnuplot plots, I'd prefer for each script invocation to create a group and assign those 10 plots to that one group
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22:07.58aliquisGorroth: yeah
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23:04.23Gorroth:)
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23:29.40Captain_ClawHi, how do I close the right side panel in Krusader?  I want only one panel by default and want to open the other one only when needed.
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23:39.59gbzCaptain_Claw: you realise its a two pane file manager right?
23:40.35Captain_ClawYeah gbz , I was just made aware. :\
23:41.02Captain_ClawAny other lightweight window managers for KDE? Dolphin is being verrrryyyy slow (~5-10 sec to open)
23:41.22gbzkonqueror is a swiss army knife
23:42.27Captain_ClawI'm sure!  But I'm just a little overwhelmed looking at all the options
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23:43.20aliquisdolphin isn't a window manager
23:43.33aliquisand it's likely not either the window manager or dolphin which make kde slow
23:43.39aliquisnew installation?
23:43.48aliquisif you turn of the desktop searches I suppose it will run faster, for now.
23:43.51gbzright, missed that
23:44.26aliquisconfigure desktop - desktop search
23:44.34aliquisuncheck the two nepomuk things
23:44.39aliquisand it will likely run faster?
23:45.13aliquisAs long as you have some ram I doubt they will slow things down much once they are done indexing though
23:46.08Captain_ClawNot that new really.  I guess it's been around 2-3 months old.  2 gb ram, i3 processor.  I've disabled file indexer but semantic desktop is enabled.
23:46.27Captain_ClawGonna try using Krusader .. once I resize the panels, it's better
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