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01:56.34solidus-riverktorrent seems broken on kde-4.8.3
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04:32.57killownwh anyone here recommends a good distro for kde usage?
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04:51.06AS6there are a couple you could look at.  Kubuntu or Sabayon the kde version
04:51.44killownkubuntu sucks
04:51.50killownthey don't update by months
04:52.03killownthere is a lot of bug fixes that they dont release on updates
05:01.35liznevadakubunchu is a rushed ubunchu with KDE. thats why it sux
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09:31.07vekiI uninstalled Gnome from my open Suse 12.1 laptop but I Lostmenu items in my KDE. I guess some lib was removed too which caused that. Is there any way to rebuild menu that shows applicationsin KDE.
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09:31.49sandman667veki: re-install them?
09:32.36vekisandman667: applications exist. they do not show upin KDE application launcher menu/list
09:33.35vekisandman667: applications suchas libreoffice, firefox etc. do exist
09:34.02sandman667i got that part. so, kde didn't integrate them. I see two ways: 1) create menu items manually 2) reinstall the application, so that kde creates the items automaitcally on install
09:34.21Inkaneveki: try running kbuildsycoca4, maybe that one helps
09:34.52vekiInkane: should I do that in shell?
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09:36.35vekiInkane: done, but no result
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09:37.53vekiInkane: I will logout and check if that helps
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09:46.12vekiInkane: I logged out and logged in again.  Kik App launcher does have all icons i.e. favorites, Leave ... etc. except for applications
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09:47.47Inkaneveki: only icons are missing?
09:48.01Inkanemaybe sudo xdg-icon-resource forceupdate --theme hicolor &> /dev/null
09:48.02Inkanehelps
09:48.03vekiInkane: icons and names of applications
09:48.46Inkanebut maybe ask in the suse irc channel, there you might get better help
09:49.49vekiInkane: no answer in suse irc channel
09:50.15Inkaneveki: well, it might take some time for someone to answer
09:50.35vekiInkane: icons are OK in Faovite application part of Kick app launcher
09:50.41vekifavorite
09:51.05Inkanehm, can't help you then, run out of ideas
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10:12.02drostieHow would I file a feature request for Kate? Basically I like auto-brackets for the most part, but I'd really like a restricted auto-brackets feature which only applies after a space, tab, newline, or start-of-document.
10:12.47drostieI am frustrated in other words by the autobracketing in the fragment: didn''
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11:57.41patkoscsaba?
11:58.11patkoscsabaI thought about enabling it, but I doesn't seem to find anything about how it works or what it can do
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15:01.29listerdthe information i provide in password and user account such as name, email or smtp server, are they used anywhere in kde or they're just informational?
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15:05.52markithi, I want to create a link to a file, I can do with drag and drop, but seems not with copy, change directory, right click and... I've only "Paste One File", am I missing something?
15:08.22listerdit seems  system settings is stuck if i alter the info, so it must be trying to change something, but it cant
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15:09.38Belial`is there a good kde alternative to deja-dup?
15:09.56Belial`the interface is pretty ugly even with gtk2-engines-oxygen installed.
15:09.59listerdluckybackup
15:10.24Belial`thanks, listerd
15:10.29InkaneBelial`: back-in-time-kde
15:10.56Belial`ok, cool. i'll check them out. restoring my home folder now but i can't stand looking at deja-dup in kde.
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15:17.07customlinksHow can I configure a shell script to run when I click a link in e.g. Okular?
15:17.31customlinksThe shell script should get the URL/file name as an argument.
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15:18.01customlinksKDE has some place where it can configure for all applications supposedly how it is opened, except it doesn't really seem to work.
15:18.33customlinksIt's fine as long as you input an actual browser like google-chrome, but on anything else it appears as if nothing happens at all.
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15:44.40rdietercustomlinks: you'd probably have to define your own .desktop file with appropriate MimeTypes= , to run said script,  then configure  mime/preferred-applications to use your app instead
15:46.11rdieterthink it probably would  need appropriate Categories= entry so it  would appear in menus
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15:47.45customlinksrdieter: it was a classic case of gremlins.
15:48.07rdieterso go it  to work?
15:48.25customlinksrdieter: yes, but I have no idea why.
15:48.50customlinksrdieter: I have another problem too.
15:48.59customlinksrdieter: KDE always crashes when I shutdown.
15:49.10rdieterbacktrace would help
15:49.24rdieterand details like, distro, kde version,  yada  yada
15:50.20rdieterif the drkonqi crash handler comes up (it should), that could help you get the necessary backtrace, and optionally file a bug
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15:52.08hbombHow can I launch a bash script from a keyboard shortcut? I have a script to rotate my screen and I have the shortcut set up but it doesn;t seem to launch the script...  I've tried 'konsole -e /path/to/script' but still no go.  KDE 4.4.5, Debian Stable
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15:52.54customlinksrdieter: I wouldn't mind fixing it myself, but setting up a development environment is such a pain that it almost seems as if you don't want anyone to help.
15:54.53hbombi take that back, it's working fine.  not sure what i was doing wrong yesterday, it's fine now.
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15:55.42customlinksrdieter: there are lots of bugs on bugs.kde.org with backtraces already.
15:56.05customlinksrdieter: as such I have the impression that bugs are being reported, but nobody is acting on them.
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16:15.30rdietercustomlinks: your  impression is  incorrect
16:15.43rdieterand you're *sure* your backtrace is identical to those already  submitted?
16:15.56customlinksrdieter: yes
16:16.01rdieterif so, can you give a bug reference, and I'll be happy to look at it
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16:17.58customlinksrdieter: I don't have the bug number anymore.
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16:40.03rdieterI'd recommend submitting your backtrace then,  even if you think it's a dup
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16:40.20rdieterand post the new bug #
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18:09.40Belial`anyone know where i can find an icontasks deb package available for debian sid?
18:09.50Belial`using smooth tasks right now and it's not cutting it.
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18:13.21ChemBroBelial`: icontasks is part of kde sc, at least since kde sc 4.8
18:13.50ChemBrootherwise, you have to build it for yourself, which is not hard
18:14.01Belial`i think it's because i did a core install of kde.
18:14.05Belial`so i probably missed it entirely.
18:14.21Belial`would you happen to know what it would be under?
18:15.16ChemBrounder what? what do you mean by that?
18:15.39Belial`like addons, etc?
18:16.12Belial`there's kde multimedia, kde graphics, kde addons, etc..
18:16.20ChemBroit's part of plasma
18:16.27ChemBroit's a plasmoid
18:16.29ChemBrodunno
18:16.55ChemBrokdeplasma something?
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18:20.16Belial`hmm, yeah. i'll just have to compile it. it's odd because debian sid is using 4.8.4 and it's nowhere to be found.
18:20.22Belial`and smooth tasks is nowhere near as good.
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18:25.10troyit's installed for me by default (slackware, kde 4.9)
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18:25.37troysince slackware basically publishes unmodified upstream packages, I'd assume then that debian did something in packaging that made it vanish
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18:54.13Belial`erc, thank you.
18:54.17Belial`that worked.
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19:34.40dknightmy plantronics bluetooth headset works fine with phonon-vlc but not with phonon-gstreamer. please help.
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19:42.44the_madmanwaves
19:43.00the_madmanSo I'm working on an Akonadi application and the Akonadi libraries are confusing me, but #akonadi looks dead.
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19:43.24the_madmanAnyone here able to help?
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19:45.03_kdepepowell, it's weekend ...
19:45.13the_madmanTrue. :/
19:45.30_kdepepotry #kontact on european work times.
19:45.30the_madmanI've been trying over the last couple of days.
19:45.44the_madmanI'll have a peak.
19:46.50_kdepepothen there are also mailing list, which developers can also read when they are not on IRC.
19:47.01the_madmanYeah.
19:47.13the_madmanNot sure it's an important enough thing to ask in the mailing list though.
19:47.49_kdepepoer, why? if the docs are confusing, there is nothing wrong asking a question
19:48.00_kdepepocould even result to better docs :)
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19:48.40the_madmanI don't know, just seems like something that only takes a few seconds, and E-mail is kinda a slow medium.
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20:14.32listerddoes amarok use the audiocd kio for playing audio cds?
20:16.31rdieterthe_madman: I think so
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20:19.29rdietererr,  listerd ^^ meant for you
20:20.28ZyX-IHello. How can I make ktorrent not download first N KiBs for preview? I am asking because it ignores all priorities until it finishes that download and settings seem to allow only to narrow down N to 16.
20:21.15listerdrdieter: i think its for ripping audio cds
20:22.28listerdhttp://everydaylht.com/howtos/desktop/kio-slavery/
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20:22.52rdieterlooks at the code again to make sure
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20:23.57rdietersrc/core-impl/collections/audiocd/AudioCdCollection.cpp:    while( KIO::NetAccess::exists( QString( "audiocd:/" + trackName + ".wav" ), KIO::NetAccess::SourceSide, 0 ) )
20:24.13listerdbtw that article is right, kioslaves are hidden
20:24.15rdieterlisterd: looks like the part about updating your music collection to me
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20:25.03listerdthats from amarok?
20:25.05rdieteryep
20:25.43listerdok, so then it doesnt use it to play cda tracks
20:26.22rdieterand you come to that conclusion...  how?
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20:28.38listerdhm
20:30.48rdieter#amarok devs mention it indeed isn't used (directly) for playback, that's all phonon
20:31.21rdieteri  still suspect what's handed to  phonon is a audio://<track_name>.wav URL however
20:31.31rdieteraudiocd:// that is
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20:39.17rdieterlisterd: come on over to #amarok, if you want to follow along on the ongoing conversation on the topic
20:39.45rdietersummary so far: not 100% sure either way
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20:42.02listerdrdieter: in system settings there is a setting about sound, i dont think its under multimedia that mentions something about accessing freedb.org. i think thats where the settings for the audiocd kio slaves are. would you be kind enough to tell me where is it if you can?
20:42.20listerds/slaves/slave/
20:44.17rdieterlisterd: audiocd kioslave can do both reading and ripping
20:45.03rdieterlisterd: systemsettings->multimedia->Audio CD's section
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20:45.59listerdok, thats why i dont have it there. thanks a lot
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20:47.59rdieterlisterd: so, why isn't it there?  you don't have audiocd-kio installed? or some other reason?
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20:48.11Krusadrhey people
20:48.27listerdrdieter: its currently not installed
20:48.32rdieterok
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21:00.26timiozzzy: +g
21:00.34timiozzzy: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
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21:13.07ercozzzy: you can set ignore wholesale and adjust individually in settings
21:13.40erc#Konversation
21:13.55ezakimaki want notifications, i just don't want the task bar to come on top of konsole--it's irritating cause i'm usually typing there and it's comes right over my input line
21:14.36ercalso add "*" filter for query,DCC... but allow channel
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23:48.17phluxNot sure what to tell you, pehden.
23:48.28phluxKDE runs perfectly fine here on a dual core.
23:48.36phluxPerhaps your graphics card?
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