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07:59.53robertzaccourmost codecs in Kdenlive don't work in rendering in Ubuntu. Is there a fix?
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09:55.29wmaderHi, plasma-desktop takes up 100% cpu when using nouveau driver. Is there a solution?
09:56.17wmaderThis is right from the start such that the systems 'hang' at the K of the login splash screen
09:57.27robertzaccourmost codecs in Kdenlive don't work in rendering in Ubuntu. Is there a fix?
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10:15.56quesadasince the last ubuntu update to kde 4.8.2, I cannot get to my desktop
10:18.10quesadakdm gets dark, then comes back to the login screen
10:20.29enkiduquesada: seems like some error during update
10:21.14quesadayes
10:21.18quesadaany idea how to fix it
10:21.29quesadahow do I reinstall kde?
10:21.55quesadaI did $mv .kde .kdebak in case it was a config prob
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10:22.34quesadaIt makes me afraid to update anything
10:23.05enkiduquesada: what ~/.xsession-errors say?
10:25.32quesadaKdebugStream called after destruction (form virtual Konsole::SessionManager::~SessionManager() file ionManager.cpp line 112)
10:26.10quesadasome dbusConnection error before: application may misbehave
10:26.28enkiduquesada: without dbus KDE won't start
10:26.33quesadasure
10:26.55quesadadbus is running
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10:27.11quesadakdm works
10:27.31enkiduso it may be libs inconsistency, but not sure about it
10:28.34quesadakdm.log says
10:28.51quesadakdeinit4 communication error with launcher
10:29.00quesadaand no dbus session found before
10:29.02quesadadamn
10:29.08quesadaI'm tired of this
10:29.21quesadaaccept an innocent upgrade, system hosed
10:29.26quesadaevery 1-3 months
10:29.29quesadabah
10:29.57quesadawould reinstalling kde help?
10:30.16enkidudont know really
10:30.38enkiduyou can have improper versions in repo
10:30.43quesadafuck linux and the 1000s of wasted hours I have sacrificed in its altar
10:31.21enkiduquesada: linux is okay, only kubuntu team is a bunch of kids
10:31.45enkidu(most of them)
10:32.20quesadaeven after ubuntu dropped it? what's the name of the company that picked it up?
10:32.36quesadaI have sabayon installed, another bunch of problems
10:33.12quesadawhat distro does kde ok?
10:33.43enkiduI have debian for KDE, but you can forget about"bleeding edge" in stable (thats why its stable)
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10:48.37edgyhi, I cannot search any pdf with okular, is it only me?
10:48.55edgythis is ubuntu quantal
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10:49.46edgyokular 0.14.90
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11:11.02DaZi can :f
11:11.14DaZmaybe it's just scans
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11:12.24the_madmanwaves
11:12.29enkiduDaZ: even scans can be searched, if they are properly scanned ;)
11:12.48DaZyou know what i mean :f
11:12.50the_madmanI'm working on an Akonadi-based mail client but I'm having problems, is there a more specific channel I can go to?
11:13.32DaZi guess #akonadi
11:13.47the_madmanLooks like
11:13.49the_madmanThanks.
11:13.52DaZif not, there's #kontact for kdepim
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11:29.17BluesKajHey all
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11:53.51edgyBluesKaj: hi
11:54.19edgyBluesKaj: can you please test okular search?
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12:02.02BluesKajedgy, where dio i find search in okular
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12:02.47edgyBluesKaj: /
12:03.21edgyBluesKaj: or Edit -> Find or Ctrl-F
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12:08.46BluesKajthe only "find file " activity I have is under edit
12:08.57BluesKajoops under "file"
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12:22.41edgyBluesKaj: strange, but whatever try that
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12:48.07nirjhorwhen I plugin my headphone
12:48.17nirjhorthe sound still comes from the laptop internal speaker
12:48.21nirjhorhelp me please?
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12:52.50rindolfnirjhor: hi.
12:52.58rindolfnirjhor: this doesn't seem to be a KDE problem.
12:53.00nirjhorrindolf: hi
12:53.09nirjhorthen whose problem is this?
12:53.22rindolfnirjhor: are you using PulseAudio?
12:54.16nirjhoryes
12:55.16enkidunirjhor: you have one of intel HDA variations, each manufacturer is making its own wiring for this chip
12:55.36nirjhoryes
12:55.40nirjhorwhat should I do now?
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12:56.34enkiduprobably your laptop is not in driver database, you have to play around a bit with "model" parameter of snd_hda_intel module
12:57.59nirjhor:(
12:58.04nirjhorany link please?
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12:59.22enkiduits in kernel and alsa doc I think
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13:02.01nirjhorcat: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt: No such file or directory
13:04.44enkiduso you need to get it somehow :)
13:05.05enkiduor look at alsa wiki
13:05.52enkiduhttp://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt;hb=HEAD
13:05.52BluesKajprobly needs to setup alsamixer , and pulseaudio/pavucontrol
13:06.43nirjhoralsamixer is already there
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13:15.21morrigandoes anyone observe the same problem: kde4 on fedora17, when the network is unavailable the panel freezes and is unresponsive; on netswork service restart it disappears?
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13:15.49rindolfmorrigan: I noticed something similar.
13:15.52morriganmeaning I only have an unresponsive new Activity button left
13:15.55rindolfmorrigan: on Mageia Linux 2.
13:15.55morriganah okay
13:15.59morriganyes!!!
13:16.03morriganthat#s why I left there
13:16.09enkidumorrigan: on Arch too
13:16.12morrigannow I'm on Fedora17 and have exact the same thing
13:16.19morriganhow is this supposed to work?
13:16.32morriganI can't set the network without the netmanager applet
13:16.35cb400fmaybe no developers are ever offline :-)
13:16.37enkidualso,some KDE and Qt dependent network services are dying due to memory leak
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13:16.54morrigancan't access the applet because the panel is dead
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13:17.59cb400fmorrigan: enkidu .. this is with kde sc 4.8.x?
13:18.08morriganlemme check
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13:18.25enkiducb400f: 4.8.4
13:18.28morrigan4.8.4-1
13:18.51morriganeasy to reproduce
13:18.52cb400fhm.. I'd better test if the panel in opensuse 12.2 goes berserk without network too
13:19.24morriganjust unplug the network or do an ifconfig <your interface> down...would be interesting to see whether this is the same everywhere
13:20.08morriganI thought this was a mageia cauldron bug, so I switched distro.
13:20.13morriganapparently not :/
13:20.59morrigan...
13:21.04morriganhow do I get my panel back?
13:21.09enkidumorrigan: its not so easy to reproduce, I can have network down several times, before kde services decide to die
13:21.13cb400fyou could use the gnomer nm applet instead
13:21.20morriganerrr
13:21.28enkidualso, got weird backtraces on /dev/tty12
13:21.30cb400fyour panel is still messed up after restart?
13:21.32morrigan1) will that ugly thing run under kde?
13:21.43morrigan2) how will I access it if the panel goes dead?
13:21.54morriganmy panel is gone
13:22.02morriganafter network restart
13:22.05cb400fhrm.. just reset your plasma config then
13:22.09morriganerr
13:22.10morriganhow?
13:22.40cb400f(re)move your plasma configuration files in ~/.kde/share/config/ (while plasma is NOT running)
13:23.05cb400for if only the panel is gone.. right click desktop -> add panel -> default panel
13:23.30morriganI don't get any menu any more
13:23.45cb400fthen your plasma is completely screwed and you need to nuke the config
13:23.47morriganthe wm is still there since my windows are still wobbly and apps are running
13:24.17morrigancan I restart the plasma desktop without losing my session?
13:25.18cb400fsure
13:25.36cb400f'kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop &'
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13:26.18morrigan*g* thanks, I wasn't that nice, gave it a kill, restarted process. nice to know the polite way
13:26.54morriganhm
13:27.05morriganthat restores my previous state...a dead panel
13:27.12cb400fso...
13:27.20cb400fkquitapp plasma-desktop
13:27.50cb400frm ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*
13:27.55cb400fplasma-desktop
13:28.54morrigan...
13:29.10morriganthat gives me an unresponsive default desktop
13:29.50cb400fmaybe try a new user then.. but smells like a broken installation
13:30.22morriganI'm almost certain that if I log out and log in again everything will be fine
13:30.41morrigansomething in there has issues with an ip change
13:31.00enkidumorrigan: I gonna take a look inside one file only
13:31.13morriganwhich one?
13:32.20cb400fwill boot into his 12.2rc test install and try disabling the network connection in pnm and see if stuff gets screwed in mysterious ways
13:32.21enkiduI was thinking about /etc/hosts,but in my case there is everything ok there
13:32.35enkiducb400f: do it few times
13:33.13morriganhmmm
13:33.53morriganargl
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13:39.21systemclientnevermind, the checkboxes were just hiding …
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13:42.49cb400fmorrigan: for the death of me I can't trigger any problems whether I disable wired/wireless network using pnm, ifdown, systemctl... my panel just keeps right on trucking as if nothing had happened
13:43.16morrigansigh
13:43.38morriganI can reproduce it by hibernating and resuming without that connection
13:43.42morrigandrives me crazy
13:44.11cb400fhibernating.. as suspend to disk?
13:44.16morriganto memory
13:44.25morrigansuspend, sorry for the confusion
13:44.36cb400fok, I'll try suspend to ram.. unplug the wire.. resume.. see what happenz
13:45.51morriganthe fun thing is, the network applet is running...because it keeps bugging me with that stupid wallet password in regular intervals
13:45.54morrigan*facepalm*
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13:46.16cb400f_hmm.. I should disable autoconnect for the wifi first I guess
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13:48.48cb400fmorrigan: can't reproduce.. maybe there's something funky about your specific nic driver wrt s2ram
13:49.13cb400for maybe opensuse 12.2 will just rock :-)
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14:24.34enkiduthere is bunch of them at kde-look.org;)
14:25.12daggs1enkidu, I know, I'm trying to find a simple one
14:25.14daggs1:)
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14:43.55enkiduopen gimp, get K logo button, make reflection, this is your base. Then copy your base to new layers, play around with opacity and Gaussian blur
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16:13.58evilytwistedcould someone refer me to a cd burner that will support mp3s?
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16:22.03enkiduevilytwisted: fedora?
16:23.27enkiduah, I haven't seen your previous msg, debian?
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16:23.56enkidusudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
16:24.49enkiduor, if it is recent kubuntu, you have to look for proposed packages
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16:36.08lordcirthCan someone explain this error msg? "Multiple occurences of key 'UseTheme' in section [X-*-Greeter]... etc"
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16:38.03lordcirthMy session is hanging on login, that's what the boot log on tty10 says
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16:50.58boombatowerthe up-arrow seems to no longer work in kde, but works in tty screens. Any thoughts on where I should look?
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18:09.35urthmoverfirst time KDE user...since way way back. I can't figure out how to make the KDE menu dark though?  and possibly Kmail.  Can anyone point me in the direction of some docs specifically regarding the coloring of the kde menu?
18:10.09urthmoverkde 4.8 on arch btw
18:11.10urthmoverwould I need to install qtcurve?
18:11.52mac^^^i'm using kde 4.8.4 and I need to be able when I start a konsole by right clicking desktop to configure that konsole's profile such that it starts up the same way EVERY time
18:12.47mac^^^the problem is that particular profile (at least when I "configure current profile" doesnt seem to have a profile name so it wont let me save changes
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18:13.29mac^^^sorry for the awkward way I stated that
18:14.56urthmoverI think I found it
18:14.59urthmoverthx anyways
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18:19.52mac^^^:q!
18:20.05mac^^^sorry thought I was in vi on wrong window
18:20.15resixiannever seen that before :)
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18:24.50mac^^^ok, i went in to "configure current profile", typed "Shell" in Profilename, made scrollback lines be 7000 (was 1000), clicked apply, then "ok" and no files were even changed in ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole
18:25.16mac^^^so I obviously dont know what I'm doing
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18:28.52mac^^^ok, sort of figured it out, I had to use the Settings pulldown and go into Manage Profiles and THEN select "Shell"
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18:30.39mac^^^now I realize what "Current Profile" means, it doesnt mean the profile from which you were launched
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20:07.18Brewsterhoping to get some help here on krusader
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20:07.38Brewsterthe official channel for it is pretty much empty
20:08.36Brewsterwhen I go to synchronize over sftp and click compare I put in the right username and password but it says login failed every time
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20:12.38resixianBrewster: no idea about krusader, but do your login crednentials work from command line? e.g. ssh <user>@hostname ?
20:12.57Brewsterit works for everywhere but krusader
20:13.07BrewsterI would like to have an sftp file syncer
20:13.18Brewsterlike winscp
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20:31.06boombatoweris there a way or feature request to allow one to click (ctrl+click, something) on links in konsole instead of right click + open link?
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20:38.30Adapteeboombatower: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/105282/
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20:41.27mellhenIam using Kubuntu 12.04 LTS with KDE 4.8.2 preinstalled. I have trouble to configure the bahaviour of the taks switching effect: "present windows". It igores my settings and uses grid instead of natura-mode. "present windows" works fine with display edges or strg (controll) + F9
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20:59.05mellhenIs nobody of 360 #kde- joined users able to point toward the right direction?
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21:01.33ChemBromaybe it is fixed in 4.8.4? i dunno
21:04.49ompaulmellhen: did you ask in #kubuntu?
21:05.27mellhenompaul: yes. They said i should ask here. because they think its a bug
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21:06.25mellhenfrom #kubuntu: "<rork> mellhen: yeah, would be a bug"
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21:10.41evilytwistedenkidu:  im using linux mint
21:10.44ompauland he left ...
21:10.55evilytwistedi cant get that libk3b2
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21:17.07enkiduevilytwisted: its fork of ubuntu ;)
21:18.03enkiduevilytwisted: you need libmad
21:18.37evilytwistedy
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21:35.00boombatowerAdaptee: wow, so that just happned?
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21:38.07Adapteeboombatower: yes, will be available in 4.10
21:39.47boombatowerAdaptee: great!, thanks
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21:57.27Alpha-OmegaI have two monitors, when I play a video in fullscreen on one monitor I can't minimize from the taskbar on the other monitor
21:58.07Alpha-Omegaanyone experience this?
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23:16.31resixiananyone know a good plasmoid how-to? i have found the mpd plasmoid but I want to map multimedia keys to it
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