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| 00:07.40 | darwin | I guess I have to build it a different way |
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| 00:13.20 | Yankees52 | who owns KDE? |
| 00:13.32 | liznevada | the community |
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| 00:15.37 | liznevada | or if your are talking about the trademarks and stuff that will be KDE e.V |
| 00:15.46 | Yankees52 | i mean who is the ultamate authority of how KDE gets developed? Like how Linus torvalds dicates the Linux Kenrel |
| 00:16.48 | liznevada | i dont think the KDE Project works the same way as Kernel developement. |
| 00:18.10 | Yankees52 | oic |
| 00:19.41 | OffToHades | If you want to see all the technical stuff, articles of association etc, to help you figure out who does what and where, your best bet would be to start with the KDE e.V website - http://ev.kde.org/ |
| 00:20.24 | OffToHades | that will probably get you going on where to go with what, who does which and why, and all the other stuff you might wish to ask. If that doesn't help, try http://www.kde.org |
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| 00:21.02 | liznevada | well the Core Team would fill the same position Torvalds fills on the kernel dev process |
| 00:33.37 | hagabaka | my battery monitor in the system tray has its icon scaled up, so only the top 60% or so is visible and the rest is off screen. anyone else getting that? |
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| 00:43.45 | ZanQdo | hi, has anyone experienced a bug when dragging icons into the toolbar, that it never lands where you want but one icon to the right? |
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| 03:53.20 | MunKy | I'm having a problem where I can't put any app into fullscreen mode on my external monitor. Every time I do, the program crashes. Happens in vlc, dragon player, etc. In dragon player, it doesn't show any video and vlc just exits. Help anyone? |
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| 06:36.56 | urlwolf | what is ubuntu doing different than other distros in terms of font rendering? I copied the kde settings panel for fonts 1:1, my fonts still look worse? |
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| 06:41.51 | urlwolf | excellent docs on fonts.conf here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_Configuration |
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| 08:57.11 | rascas | doesnt anyone feel kwin (kde 4.8.4) slower with the latest nvidia drivers (302.17) ? |
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| 09:37.56 | Konomi | hi everyone I have a fun (not) bug, if I logout of kde and while kde is logging out I switch to tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) then wait until kdm login pops up my keyboard and mouse input seem to be left on tty1 making the system unusable. anyone heard of this? |
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| 09:50.08 | Konomi | found a report nvm http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=102858 for anyone interested |
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| 12:51.34 | BluesKaj | Hi all |
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| 16:44.21 | ronrom | the files that are in /usr/share/apps/kio_desktop/DesktopLinks/ are for what purpose? |
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| 17:15.36 | ronrom | i cant find documents explaining kreadconfig and kwriteconfig, could someone explain please? |
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| 18:01.41 | rdieter | ronrom: first google hit find a ubuntu manpage for me, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/kreadconfig.1.html |
| 18:02.00 | rdieter | similarly, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/kwriteconfig.1.html |
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| 18:04.59 | blizzow | Is there an easy way to get right click on desktop -> open konsole functionality? I tried to build some plugin (favorites launcher/containment action) that requires cmake and fails during compilation with some arcane BS that's really annoying to try fixing. |
| 18:05.20 | ronrom | rdieter: yes i did find them, i even pasted the result, you can see it just scroll up |
| 18:05.39 | rdieter | blizzow: in practice, not so easy unfortunately. |
| 18:05.48 | ronrom | rdieter: oh sorry, i missconfused, i pasted in another channel |
| 18:06.07 | rdieter | ronrom: so, what more do you want? are the manpages not clear enough documentation? |
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| 18:07.06 | rdieter | blizzow: some distros patch in that functionality (I can give you a reference if you want) |
| 18:08.18 | svuorela | rdieter: hey. it's a debian manpage :) |
| 18:08.18 | ronrom | rdieter: yes i continue with doubts |
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| 18:08.42 | blizzow | rdieter; I'm using kubuntu. I haven't found one via aptitude... :( |
| 18:08.53 | rdieter | ronrom: I can help explain it, if you help me understand what you want or don't yet understand |
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| 18:09.50 | ronrom | rdieter: i closed the files in where i did see it, please give me some minutes to search them |
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| 18:15.39 | rdieter | svuorela: win |
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| 18:17.43 | houms | good day all. have an issue with a laptop that by default when on a docking station with two monitors both monitors run but cloned. If I set it up the way i want and save it as default configuration it works, but when i shtudown and boot on the laptop without the docking station i get a blackscreen instead of the desktop. Is there a way to avoid this? |
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| 18:29.50 | houms | does kde not handle montiors dynamically like gnome seems to do on the same laptop? |
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| 18:34.43 | cb400f | houms: both kde and gnome have xrandr frontends (assuming you use a gfxdriver that supports xrandr) |
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| 18:35.00 | cb400f | use the systemsettings monitor module.. or run krandrtray |
| 18:38.35 | houms | I am using the systemsettings module. I have laptop and a docking station with dual monitors. on default when docked it boots both screens but they are wrong resolution and cloned. I can then use systemsettings to change it to my liking which works. I save as default and reboot. the screens come back up as expected (the way i set them up). If I shutdown and then boot off of the dock, I get a blank screen. My expectation is that I would get the |
| 18:38.37 | houms | laptop monitor working properly |
| 18:39.05 | houms | cb400f i believe it is using built-in graphics lspci output is here https://paste.debian.net/176467/ |
| 18:39.43 | cb400f | cz |
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| 18:40.18 | cb400f | that's cuz when you say "use as default" you keep a krandrrc that won't work |
| 18:41.10 | cb400f | I guess that could be considered a bug |
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| 18:42.13 | cb400f | I personally get around that problem with a little script I run one for "dock" and one for "mobile" which moves the krandrrc back and forth |
| 18:42.28 | houms | so it is either set your monitor up everytime you boot on the dock or deal with the laptop going to black screen on undocked boot? that seems like a very poor situation indeed. in all fairness, gnome running on the same install handles it properly it seems |
| 18:42.39 | houms | which is why i am disappointed and confused |
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| 18:43.02 | houms | my question about your little script is how is one supposed to run it in the event the screen is blank |
| 18:44.02 | cb400f | ctrl+alt+f2 |
| 18:44.11 | houms | lol, smartass :P |
| 18:45.12 | houms | i figured that would be the only way. this really is sad. I am a huge fan of kde. my fav. DE bar none, just having no solutions for things like are frustrating |
| 18:45.39 | houms | so essentially kde4 does not really deal well with multiple monitor "profiles" |
| 18:46.18 | cb400f | guess not.. if the autodetection actually worked this wouldn't be a problem |
| 18:46.56 | cb400f | cuz then you wouldn't have to set up the monitors everytime or save a "static" krandrrc |
| 18:47.12 | houms | lol, so there is no work on this planned? are kde folks even aware? this seems like a pretty big piece of functionality to miss |
| 18:47.24 | houms | i mean switching from a dock to standalone is not that uncommon |
| 18:48.06 | cb400f | dunno.. check on bugs.kde.org |
| 18:48.51 | cb400f | if you find an existing report, or file a new one, I'd be interested to have the bug # :-) |
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| 18:50.45 | cb400f | this one seems kinda related: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=220079 |
| 18:50.47 | houms | it seems bot hbug 277483 and or 281841 could be used |
| 18:50.55 | houms | damn beat me to it |
| 18:51.04 | houms | though you have another one noted |
| 18:52.40 | houms | which one do i file under |
| 18:52.41 | houms | ? |
| 18:53.33 | cb400f | I like the 277483 one the best.. so I'll add myself to cc and give it some votes |
| 18:53.50 | cb400f | so maybe you can comment on that one too |
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| 18:54.44 | cb400f | I heard Nvidia blob will have support for xrandr soon.. maybe that'll bring more attention to krandr |
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| 18:55.40 | houms | yeah i read on one of the filings that they do not have a maintainer for the krandr code |
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| 18:57.48 | jthomas | How can I force Dolphin to use a specific user account for smb:// KIOslave connections? smb://user@server doesn't do it and lists the folder owner as me, which isn't correct and it isn't the user@ that I specified |
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| 19:00.21 | designbybeck | how do you continuously write with Okular when annotating? |
| 19:02.14 | kennyz | KDE 4.8.3. How can I hide percent number on a volume indicator when I change volume with Fn keys? |
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| 19:02.54 | rdieter | kennyz: I don't think you can (short of patching the code) |
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| 19:06.24 | kennyz | rdieter: okay, thanks |
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| 19:57.42 | saleem | hello |
| 19:58.09 | saleem | i have an issue with my kde panel mentioned here in these two threads |
| 19:58.32 | saleem | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288985 |
| 19:58.40 | saleem | https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1122052#p1122052 |
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| 19:59.29 | saleem | the apparent fix suggested wont work for me because i dont have any plasma-desktop-appletsrc file exsiting |
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| 19:59.48 | saleem | should i create one or ? |
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| 20:01.44 | kde185 | What is better kdesrc-build or build-tool? |
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| 20:20.39 | craigevil | saleem, i take it you looked in ~/.kde/share/config/ |
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| 20:23.02 | saleem | craigevil, oh did i look at a wrong place? |
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| 20:24.13 | craigevil | not sure about Arch but that's where its at on Debian |
| 20:25.12 | saleem | im looking at /.kde4/share/config |
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| 20:26.20 | craigevil | i do not have a .kde4 directory, its just .kde, never played with Arch they might name it differently |
| 20:27.44 | saleem | this is what i have on arch |
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| 20:50.55 | designbybeck | Does anyone know anything about Okular? |
| 20:50.59 | designbybeck | how do you continuously write with Okular when annotating? |
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| 22:34.42 | valtih | why to develop Konqueror when there is the FireFox? |
| 22:39.11 | DaZ | why to develop firefox when there's chrome |
| 22:39.34 | DaZ | why develop anything :c |
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| 22:42.29 | valtih | no, chrome appeared after firefox. IE and Chrome are proprietary. Their developers want to make money with them. But when you start developing do infierior |
| 22:42.45 | valtih | inferiour stuff when there is FF, it is strange |
| 22:44.35 | valtih | do you defend hitting a wall with head? |
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| 22:52.07 | moparx | You do realize that Konqueror existed before Firefox right? |
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| 22:54.41 | moparx | Sort of kills your 'why develop this when there is this' argument. :P |
| 22:54.52 | valtih | As Netscape did. Firefox was developed on the basis of Netscape. Now, it is free and better. Do you supply Konqueror to download Firefox? |
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| 22:55.55 | DaZ | hurr durr |
| 22:56.20 | moparx | So, you agree that your 'why develop konqeror when there is firefox' is now void? |
| 22:57.16 | valtih | Do you see my argument? I say that Konqueror sucks. Firefox never did. |
| 22:57.28 | moparx | It's like asking 'why do you use linux when there is windows' |
| 22:57.35 | moparx | It's a silly argument. |
| 22:58.00 | pinotree | it looks like you never used mozilla m18 or other similar releases |
| 22:58.04 | moparx | ^ |
| 22:58.18 | moparx | I remember the old days myself |
| 22:58.20 | valtih | Do you see my argument where I say that Windows is proprietary? Ok, I develop your "not silly argument": why do you use Linux rather than develop your own OS? |
| 22:58.52 | moparx | valtih: when did you start using Firefox? |
| 22:59.03 | valtih | version 3 on Windows |
| 22:59.21 | moparx | I used 0.01 and up. It did suck originally |
| 22:59.46 | valtih | netscape never did |
| 23:00.02 | pinotree | i can still remember the crashes |
| 23:00.16 | thiago | used netscape navigator 2 |
| 23:00.19 | thiago | it was horrible |
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| 23:00.41 | DaZ | this whole argument is damn stupid :f |
| 23:00.46 | moparx | agreed |
| 23:00.57 | pinotree | DaZ: desu! (agreed) |
| 23:01.01 | pinotree | :p |
| 23:01.03 | DaZ | desudesu! |
| 23:01.21 | moparx | It's really not something worth discussing as it's a fanboy who won't listen to any side but his own. *shrug* |
| 23:01.44 | valtih | You have no argument why you have Konqueror |
| 23:01.56 | moparx | It existed way before firefox sir |
| 23:01.57 | DaZ | we have konqueror because we like to |
| 23:01.57 | valtih | I just want to know that |
| 23:02.00 | DaZ | that's the argument. |
| 23:02.19 | moparx | valtih: why do we have linux? |
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| 23:03.59 | valtih | Because it has technical advantages http://valjok.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-linux-is-better.html over Windows, not to speak about the price |
| 23:07.47 | rascas | valtih: konqueror is more than just a web browser. its a file manager to and fully integrated with the K desktop environment. |
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| 23:11.07 | valtih | why to have the Dolphin then? |
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| 23:11.47 | DaZ | because some people prefer dolphin :f |
| 23:13.09 | rascas | valtih: why do we have you? (hope you not be offended) |
| 23:13.45 | rascas | its a matter of choice |
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| 23:14.44 | moparx | That's the problem. He can't seem to understand why anyone would choose something over Firefox. :/ |
| 23:16.42 | valtih | yes, I do not understand why we have both Dolphin and Konqueror that is fully integrated into the system just because firefox does not let me to think. All other criteria I have: one likes one, another likes another. This is quite technical cirteria. |
| 23:17.21 | valtih | this criteria helps to make the choice |
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| 23:33.51 | craigevil | some people like chocolate icecream other like vanilla, linux is all about choice use whatever works for you |
| 23:34.04 | pinotree | s/linux/free software/ |
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| 23:36.38 | craigevil | never used konq as a web browser, as I prefer firefox or chrome, but i do use konq more than dolphin simply because it starts faster on my system |
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