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| 00:55.46 | coffee88 | hi there. my knotify4 chugs along at 2% cpu constantly (4.8.3 on gentoo). I assume that's not desired behaviour?... |
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| 03:02.39 | terabit | hey guys ,phonon is not detecting any of my audio devices. does anyone know where it stores the logs of the device probes and how to resolve it ? (gentoo/nvidia/linux-3.3.8-gsec) |
| 03:02.41 | terabit | I can play audio using things like mplayer from cli but none of the applications that use qt have audio and my user is part of the audio group |
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| 10:55.26 | Teyras | Hi, Dolphin started crashing after opening any file after an upgrade to KDE 4.8.4 on Arch64. http://pastebin.com/Agg8cHVR (debug trace) |
| 10:55.50 | tetris4 | Teyras: its a known issue, solution so far is to disable nepomuk |
| 10:56.05 | tetris4 | there is similar behavior on Chakra with dolphin, gwenview, kmail etc.. |
| 10:56.55 | Teyras | :-/ well, I can live withou nepomuk for a while, I guess... |
| 10:57.21 | Teyras | thanks |
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| 10:58.59 | tetris4 | this is the report on Arch: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301453 |
| 10:59.11 | tetris4 | and this on KDE: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301453 |
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| 11:16.00 | annma | in #kde-bugs there is now an introduction to using KDE bugzilla |
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| 13:10.45 | flolo_new | Hi, I just try to try out the "new" actitivy stuff from kde |
| 13:11.01 | flolo_new | up to now I just organized my work as before, with virtual desktops for different tasks |
| 13:11.45 | flolo_new | my first question: how can I switch between "activities"? |
| 13:13.48 | Inkane | flolo_new: I think the standard key binding is super + tab |
| 13:14.01 | Inkane | and super + q lists all activities |
| 13:14.16 | flolo_new | ah that thing |
| 13:14.52 | flolo_new | I know it, I can open it with my panel, but... |
| 13:15.27 | flolo_new | then that manager appears and while I move my mouse down, to select a new actiticy it diseappears again |
| 13:16.21 | flolo_new | so no chance to hit any button form it |
| 13:16.55 | flolo_new | but this super+q helps, when it is opened with this keycombination it stays even while moving the mouse |
| 13:17.21 | mdemeyer | flolo_new: can you not use it from the panel? |
| 13:17.31 | flolo_new | no |
| 13:17.32 | mdemeyer | It should stay open if you click it.. |
| 13:18.03 | flolo_new | as well as when I open it when I click on this "activity" tab (however it is called) |
| 13:18.19 | flolo_new | this manager opens, but as soon as I move the mouse it disappears |
| 13:18.56 | flolo_new | (its not on the first move of the mouse, but 1 second of moving mouse is enough) |
| 13:19.23 | mdemeyer | Yes, when you change to an other activity it disappears. |
| 13:19.32 | flolo_new | I didnt do anything |
| 13:19.38 | mdemeyer | do you have a panel on top? or vertical? |
| 13:19.43 | flolo_new | I cant get even to it |
| 13:19.46 | flolo_new | its on top |
| 13:20.24 | flolo_new | next to my distro menu is the icon for the activity manager |
| 13:20.56 | flolo_new | I click it, the manager opens at the bottom, and after my mouse crossed 1/3 of the screen on the way to it, it is gone |
| 13:20.57 | mdemeyer | yes and it should not disapear when you have done nothing |
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| 13:21.08 | flolo_new | yes, should |
| 13:21.11 | flolo_new | but it does |
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| 13:21.32 | mdemeyer | what version of kde are you using? |
| 13:21.45 | flolo_new | its the most recent in fedora, I guess its 4.8 |
| 13:22.15 | flolo_new | help says 4.8.3 |
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| 13:25.14 | flolo_new | same happens when I try to start the actity manager via the activity-tab-menu |
| 13:28.08 | mdemeyer | I can't seem to reproduce it.. |
| 13:28.27 | mdemeyer | You should post it as a bug on bugs.kde.org |
| 13:28.54 | mdemeyer | Perhaps test if it works when your panel is at the bottom |
| 13:28.57 | flolo_new | btw. is there only one activity acitve at the same time? |
| 13:29.18 | flolo_new | or can I have one activity on one monitor, while I have another activity on another |
| 13:29.19 | flolo_new | ? |
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| 13:30.07 | mdemeyer | No, you can have as many active as you want. I use mostly 3-4 at a time, and the others are stopped to save resources |
| 13:30.30 | mdemeyer | As for using them on multipple monitors, I don't think so : ) |
| 13:30.33 | Manko10 | I guess he meant to have more than one running and active at the same time |
| 13:30.35 | flolo_new | e.g. I want to have an activity "Communication" with my skype, ICQ, ... and one "Developing" with my IDE, editor, ... |
| 13:30.52 | Manko10 | You can create both and have both running at the same time. |
| 13:30.55 | flolo_new | and of course I want to see if somebody wants to talk to me, even if I am working |
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| 13:31.03 | Manko10 | But you can't have them simultaneously on both monitors |
| 13:31.17 | Manko10 | At least I wouldn't know how. |
| 13:31.30 | mdemeyer | But you can have applications on both activities! |
| 13:31.40 | Manko10 | Yes |
| 13:31.49 | flolo_new | but I cant see both at the same time |
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| 13:32.17 | mdemeyer | e.g. Use skype and mail in 'communication' and have skype/chat available on all other activities (or only the ones you want) |
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| 13:32.23 | Manko10 | You can't see two activities at the same time, but you can assign one app to more than one activity |
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| 13:32.50 | Manko10 | The entry for that used to be in the right-click context menu on a window's title bar. |
| 13:33.03 | Manko10 | Somehow it's gone in 4.8.80 |
| 13:33.20 | mdemeyer | strange, I still have it |
| 13:33.37 | mdemeyer | Do you have beta2 already? |
| 13:33.40 | flolo_new | but more or less, then it ends for me up, that I have again for each of my types of desktops I want, just a virtual desktop |
| 13:33.42 | Manko10 | No |
| 13:33.55 | Manko10 | I remember someone asked that yesterday on IRC for neon |
| 13:35.07 | mdemeyer | flolo_new: If that works for you thats fine, you don't have to use activities |
| 13:35.43 | flolo_new | also there was an error, which I guess came from my multi monitor setup |
| 13:35.57 | flolo_new | 1 have to at 1920x1080 and one at 1680x1050 |
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| 13:36.28 | flolo_new | and when I activitate an activity, there is usually this activity tab with the name of the acitivy at the right border of the screen |
| 13:36.44 | flolo_new | but it appears only on eht 1680x1050 at the border |
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| 13:37.25 | flolo_new | on the other monitors it appears something away from the border, more towards the middle of the screen |
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| 13:37.39 | flolo_new | (I would guess at 1680 ) |
| 13:37.54 | flolo_new | but I would expect it on the other monitors also on the border (e.g. 1920) |
| 13:38.15 | mdemeyer | That is not because of the monitors but your panel on top |
| 13:38.41 | flolo_new | when I have a panel on top, the right border tab is not at the right border? |
| 13:38.43 | flolo_new | why that? |
| 13:38.50 | mdemeyer | If you drag it a little it should snap to the side |
| 13:39.00 | flolo_new | yes it does, I already tried |
| 13:39.18 | flolo_new | the question is: is this placing persisitent, or I have to it always again? |
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| 13:39.40 | mdemeyer | Because the tab is normally at the top, and the panel kinda pushes it away and it gliches |
| 13:39.51 | flolo_new | ah ok |
| 13:39.59 | mdemeyer | I think its persistent (been a while since I used panel on top) |
| 13:40.39 | flolo_new | where is the panel default? bottom? |
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| 13:41.48 | mdemeyer | yes, so its good somebody is using it on the top, that way some bugs get exposed |
| 13:42.08 | silverrocker | I have configured emacs to run okular but when I press C-c C-v in emacs (brining up okular) it does not go to the corresponding line, inverse search (shift-click ) from okular works, but foreward search from emacs to okular does not, I'm calling okular like this: okular --unique %o#src:%n%b |
| 13:42.33 | silverrocker | I'm using arch linux with KDE 4.8.4 |
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| 14:17.45 | flolo_new | another question to this actity stuff: |
| 14:18.09 | flolo_new | are the decisions which application belongs to which actitity stored in between sessions? |
| 14:18.52 | flolo_new | or are they are stored together with the session, or do I have to assign them everytime I log in? |
| 14:19.39 | Inkane | flolo_new: afaik, at least some applications like dolphin and okular know to which application they belong |
| 14:19.43 | Inkane | others don't |
| 14:20.03 | flolo_new | you mean activity not application, right? |
| 14:20.17 | Inkane | oh yes |
| 14:20.25 | Inkane | the second one sohuld be activity |
| 14:20.41 | Inkane | yep just tried |
| 14:20.50 | Inkane | closed an activity with to pdfs |
| 14:20.55 | Inkane | and opened it again |
| 14:21.09 | Inkane | okular showed them again |
| 14:21.18 | Inkane | on the right virtual desktop |
| 14:21.27 | flolo_new | another thing: is there a way to have a background picture over my complete desktop? |
| 14:23.55 | rindolf | flolo_new: WDYM? |
| 14:24.03 | rindolf | flolo_new: what do you mean? |
| 14:24.19 | flolo_new | a picture image that shows behind all my windows? |
| 14:24.24 | flolo_new | ;-) |
| 14:24.46 | rindolf | flolo_new: a wallpaper? |
| 14:24.50 | flolo_new | one picture as background on all 3 monitors |
| 14:24.54 | flolo_new | yes |
| 14:24.56 | rindolf | flolo_new: ah. |
| 14:25.06 | rindolf | flolo_new: you can set one for each monitor individually. |
| 14:25.18 | flolo_new | I already realized |
| 14:25.28 | flolo_new | but I want one for all |
| 14:25.29 | mdemeyer | I think you can with multipple monitors |
| 14:25.59 | mdemeyer | No sure how : / |
| 14:26.06 | flolo_new | I have 5760x 1080 jpg |
| 14:26.17 | flolo_new | and that it spanns all 3 monitors |
| 14:26.46 | flolo_new | what I can do, is manually split the jpg into 3 smaller and then assign each to individuel to a monitor |
| 14:27.21 | flolo_new | but what would be much more comfy would be if I just could assign a single one, but there seems to be no way to do it (at least I didnt found it) |
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| 14:30.30 | allix | hi |
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| 14:51.06 | allix | has anyone had any experience with MTP using Dolphin ? |
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| 15:27.41 | Eddi|zuHause | hi. i have a serious problem with kmail. all my mails, including the whole folder structure, have disappeared. |
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| 15:28.47 | rindolf | Eddi|zuHause: do you have backups? |
| 15:29.03 | Eddi|zuHause | that's not the point... |
| 15:29.06 | rindolf | Eddi|zuHause: did you upgrade to KMail 2? |
| 15:29.18 | rindolf | Eddi|zuHause: are these E-mails still physically on the disk? |
| 15:29.56 | Eddi|zuHause | i have my old kmail folder, last modified 7. Sep 2011 with content, and a kmail2 folder modified today, with only an "autosave" |
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| 15:30.51 | Eddi|zuHause | i tried running the importer, but that looks completely broken, i can select "import from kmail", but then i can't select a folder to import |
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| 15:33.18 | Eddi|zuHause | oh, and kmail crashes upon exit |
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| 16:27.34 | simplew | cant git clone kde apps: |
| 16:27.36 | simplew | Cloning into 'audiocd-kio'... |
| 16:27.37 | simplew | fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer |
| 16:27.41 | simplew | what does this mean? |
| 16:28.14 | mdemeyer | what is the git command you are using? |
| 16:29.26 | simplew | git clone |
| 16:29.39 | simplew | git clone git://anongit.kde.org/audiocd-kio |
| 16:31.36 | Phr33d0m | simplew you're probably behind a firewall |
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| 16:31.55 | simplew | yesterday i cloned kdelibs |
| 16:32.03 | simplew | so no firewall issues |
| 16:32.14 | Phr33d0m | well the command you gave works for me... |
| 16:33.56 | mdemeyer | works for me too. Have you simply tried again, maybe it was a bad connection |
| 16:34.57 | Phr33d0m | http://kgb.pentagon.ru/audiocd-kio.tar.bz2 if you need it urgenlty |
| 16:35.02 | Phr33d0m | urgently* |
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| 16:35.55 | simplew | https://projects.kde.org its so slow |
| 16:36.12 | mdemeyer | yes it is really slow tonight. |
| 16:36.13 | simplew | Phr33d0m: im trying to clone another repo |
| 16:36.21 | simplew | mdemeyer: tonight? |
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| 16:37.00 | mdemeyer | well its never super fast, but I have never seen it this bad |
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| 16:56.32 | mystica555 | how does KDE save alsa mixer settings, where, and how do i get it to either a: save them ALL or b: leave them alone? |
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| 17:01.25 | Sho_ | (leave volume alone!</youtube>) |
| 17:02.48 | mystica555 | heh |
| 17:02.54 | mystica555 | i'd like kde to do this, yes |
| 17:03.09 | mystica555 | or just realize that ADC and DAC are vital mixer controls and save them |
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| 17:20.15 | Sho_ | mystica555: fwiw, there's a knob in the settings to disable volume roundtripping |
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| 17:24.32 | mystica555 | Sho_: i don't understand what 'roundtrippiung' means, nor do i know where this 'knob' is |
| 17:24.34 | mystica555 | please elaborate |
| 17:25.04 | mystica555 | nor can i type >.. |
| 17:25.05 | Sho_ | sorry, let me tone down the English to international channel-safe :) |
| 17:25.05 | mystica555 | >.> |
| 17:25.24 | Sho_ | mystica555: The KMix configuration dialog has a checkbox that controls whether volumes are safed and restored |
| 17:25.46 | mystica555 | well i wouldn't mind if it saves them.. i do mind that it doesn't save everything properly |
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| 18:15.55 | kdman | Hi all. I'm lookin for a kde distribution containing everything you need (codecs, flash...) |
| 18:17.13 | annma | try any live CD and see if it works |
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| 18:17.30 | annma | distro watch should give you some infos |
| 18:18.20 | Manko10 | When you are after codecs I can at least say that you shouldn't use openSUSE. They have stripped all nonßfree codecs out of their liveCDs. |
| 18:18.54 | kdman | and without codecs ? |
| 18:20.01 | sandman667 | you can't watch most vids/ use moste audio formats |
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| 18:20.31 | kdman | do you think mint12 kde is good ? |
| 18:20.42 | annma | can't you try it live? |
| 18:21.00 | annma | distro choice is not relevant of this channel |
| 18:21.54 | kdman | ohh |
| 18:21.55 | kdman | ok |
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| 18:22.31 | kdman | becasue I lov this kinda theme : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/Krusader-140_01.png but I don't know if it's possible with kde 4.8 |
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| 18:23.26 | pinotree | that's crystal icons + plastik widgets and windows decorations |
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| 18:24.44 | kdman | thanks. and a last thing |
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| 18:25.35 | kdman | a little poll : in which distro are you all ? |
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| 18:30.24 | mdemeyer | kdman: opensuse |
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| 18:31.04 | sandman667 | kdman: mint12kde, thinking about switching to chakra |
| 18:32.08 | mdemeyer | I used chakra in the past, I like it a lot! : ) |
| 18:32.23 | FabianS | Arch. |
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| 18:33.29 | juanmabc | are you hurt? ;P |
| 18:33.39 | FabianS | :p |
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| 18:35.25 | kdman | In fact I was wondering if a 100% based distribution 'd be better |
| 18:35.30 | kdman | kde distribution* |
| 18:36.59 | mdemeyer | that depends on what you want/need |
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| 18:46.52 | kdman | I think I'll install mintkde because it's easy to use. I've got an intel cpu with optimus, with windows it's not hot but when I tried ubuntu it was very hot. How can I solve it ? |
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| 18:52.14 | sandman667 | kdman: try #linuxmint-help on SpotChat, they might be able to help |
| 18:55.07 | kdman | ok thank you all. Good evening. |
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| 19:12.30 | arooni-mobile | hi folks kde kalarm doesnt seem to work on ubuntu. is there another program that can do text based alarms (reminders to do stuff) at certain times? or is ther ea way to make kde kalarm work on ubuntu 12.04? (error: ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 (Unknown error)) |
| 19:13.50 | Phr33d0m | sleep 3600 && vlc /path/to/Rammstein Discography/song.mp3 |
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| 19:35.49 | Pes88 | hi |
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| 19:37.19 | Pes88 | I recently installed the lastest verison of kde namely the 4.8 |
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| 19:37.59 | Pes88 | I have been using kde since 3 version... But for more or less one year I couldn't use linux distrubution |
| 19:38.22 | Pes88 | I think the last version I used was the 4.5 on gentoo |
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| 19:39.43 | Pes88 | I thought that a lot bug must have fixed.. But actually I got a lot of problem and crush |
| 19:39.53 | Pes88 | I'm using kubuntu |
| 19:39.58 | Pes88 | Kwin crush often |
| 19:40.19 | Pes88 | skype crush as well and I have problem with the audio |
| 19:40.40 | Pes88 | A lot of other routine crush as well! |
| 19:40.53 | Pes88 | SO i'm a bit disapointed... I like kde |
| 19:41.04 | Pes88 | but I'm thinking to change to XFCE |
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| 19:42.05 | almoxarife | Pes88, load ppa 'xorg-edgers' allow it to update as it sees fit, no more kwin crash |
| 19:43.12 | Pes88 | what's xorg-edgers ? |
| 19:43.19 | Pes88 | I don't know that.. |
| 19:43.25 | almoxarife | Pes88, it would be PPA |
| 19:43.58 | Pes88 | ok! I found in on google.. |
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| 19:44.44 | almoxarife | Pes88, add the ppa, update and upgrade, synaptic refresh |
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| 19:45.26 | Pes88 | I got another question do you know if it's possible change the device which kde uses to manage the brigthness? |
| 19:45.30 | almoxarife | Pes88, another thing, add the 'headers' for your kernel |
| 19:45.34 | Pes88 | I will do! |
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| 19:47.01 | Pes88 | I already have.. |
| 19:47.13 | almoxarife | Pes88, brightness is a 'acpi' or 'apm' function, or maybe both, not sure how i would 'choose' |
| 19:48.10 | Pes88 | I've tree deferent device... this is quite weird! |
| 19:48.27 | almoxarife | Pes88, explain 'devices'? |
| 19:48.37 | Pes88 | i'd like kde using only one of those... |
| 19:48.44 | almoxarife | Pes88, explain 'devices'? |
| 19:49.28 | Pes88 | device means file in /dev through which I can manage the brightness |
| 19:49.51 | Pes88 | for example echo 10 ..../device0/brightness |
| 19:49.59 | Pes88 | for example echo 10 > ..../device0/brightness |
| 19:50.20 | Pes88 | If I use the hot key kde get crazy |
| 19:50.33 | Pes88 | I can't use it anymore for a while |
| 19:51.22 | Phr33d0m | [21:39:37] <Pes88> SO i'm a bit disapointed... <===== it's what you got for using bugbuntu :) |
| 19:51.22 | almoxarife | Pes88, you dont you control brightness thru 'system settings'?? |
| 19:53.34 | almoxarife | Pes88, i dont see the point of making changes to brightness from cli on kde, unless kde 'system settings' does not respond |
| 19:53.53 | Pes88 | almoxarife: yes I can do that but It dosen't work properly... For example if I put the minimun no one thing change... but the system works properly |
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| 19:55.00 | Pes88 | Phr33d0m: you're a right... I choose that becaue I want to learn something about the package system which might be useful! |
| 19:55.15 | Pes88 | Phr33d0m: which distro do you advice me? |
| 19:55.27 | Phr33d0m | Pes88 learning something about the fattest and slowest package manager there is? huh. |
| 19:55.33 | almoxarife | Pes88, once you upgrade to the ppa, thoses issues may get resolved |
| 19:55.50 | Phr33d0m | Pes88 whatever not debian/ubuntu based it's my personal choice |
| 19:56.19 | almoxarife | System: Host mint-Satellite-L555 Kernel 3.4.0-3-generic x86_64 (64 bit) |
| 19:56.19 | almoxarife | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.24 | almoxarife | works for me |
| 19:56.33 | Pes88 | I hate apt-get or the othe program like that.. I used to use arch and gentoo much much better... But ubuntu could be useful for the job!! |
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| 20:00.27 | FabianS | Using PPAs is in generall a pretty bad idea |
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| 20:02.37 | Phr33d0m | Pes88 arch and gentoo are my prefered distros, gentoo for my desktop and arch for my crappy laptop... although in general - rpm based package managers are way much faster than that fat ugly bear-hairy midget apt |
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| 20:05.40 | sandman667 | has anyone tried chakra? |
| 20:05.56 | mdemeyer | sandman667: yes |
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| 20:08.20 | sandman667 | i'm looking at it.. but my impression is that it's a cool concept, though it seems to have a rather limited base of software in the repos/ccr/bundles |
| 20:09.34 | sandman667 | i could of course install missing things from source, but i'd rather work through a package manager |
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| 20:31.23 | mac^^^ | on my kde 4.8, when I click on the speaker icon in panel, the slider doesnt change volume ... instead I have to click "mixer" and change volume in mixer |
| 20:32.57 | gdebure | mac^^^: you may need to set the master channel |
| 20:32.59 | Phr33d0m | you have to select the proper output and master channel |
| 20:33.10 | manutortosa | probably to PCM |
| 20:33.11 | mac^^^ | Phr33d0m: ok, I'll try that, tks |
| 20:33.18 | gdebure | right click on the kmix icon to do so |
| 20:33.59 | mac^^^ | gdebure: tks, i'd probably not succeeded on what Phr33d0m said with your hint |
| 20:34.10 | mac^^^ | without |
| 20:34.31 | gdebure | mac^^^: np |
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