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| 00:06.29 | AndrzejL | Oh Lawd... |
| 00:07.09 | AndrzejL | it failed to build at 90%... |
| 00:07.29 | AndrzejL | QWebPage not found I hope one symlink can solve it ;) |
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| 00:12.16 | kde_pepo | you need Qt compiled with QtWebKit. |
| 00:12.50 | kde_pepo | or install qtwebkit-devel package if you use Qt from packages. |
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| 00:25.02 | AndrzejL | was just missing a symlink |
| 00:25.15 | AndrzejL | now it failed for the same reason on 94% |
| 00:25.36 | AndrzejL | well different file but still - symlink missing |
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| 01:11.34 | AndrzejL | Guys remember when I asked if I the tray icon for pidgin was qt4 or kde4 issue? well it was incompatibility between them two |
| 01:11.51 | AndrzejL | I only compiled kdelibs / akonadi and the icon is back |
| 01:12.05 | AndrzejL | keep on going Andy :D |
| 01:12.07 | AndrzejL | woohoo |
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| 01:25.35 | liznevada | where you define the default filemanager? cuz now out of the blue, KDE is using Konqueror instead of Dolphin |
| 01:26.23 | DaZ | systemsettings -> default something |
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| 01:29.23 | AndrzejL | I am loving the search box in systemsettings :) |
| 01:30.08 | AndrzejL | typing something in it gives possible results and if you narrow it down properly - it shows the entry that you should browse in to find it |
| 01:32.12 | DaZ | doesn't work with few types of data representation used in systemsettings though :f |
| 01:32.47 | AndrzejL | really? I havent noticed - maybe I was just lucky :D |
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| 01:41.41 | AndrzejL | ok akonadi compiled, now kdepimlibs are making ;) |
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| 01:42.07 | DaZ | gentoo much? |
| 01:42.20 | AndrzejL | Nope :D PCLinuxOS :D |
| 01:42.34 | DaZ | why not just use whatever's in the repo then? :f |
| 01:42.39 | AndrzejL | I never tried gentoo but I hear good things |
| 01:43.11 | AndrzejL | Coz I am... crazy / curious / complicated and like to mess around with new stuff? :D |
| 01:43.36 | AndrzejL | plus this is the only way that I will ever learn how to compile KDE4 :D |
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| 01:43.54 | AndrzejL | well not learn... I will experience it... ;) |
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| 01:45.15 | AndrzejL | plus I am trying to prove to myself that given time and brain cycles I can do it |
| 01:45.36 | AndrzejL | sort of self esteem raising thingy ;) |
| 01:47.31 | AndrzejL | installing from repo is like driving porche 911 and never looking under the hood :) |
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| 03:03.50 | dizzylizzy | so i've never personally known anybody who used KDE and I haven't really ever tried it except for a couple of LiveCDs in the past. Apprently though KDE is incredibly popular. Why do y'all like it? |
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| 03:10.06 | craigevil | 1) because it isnt Gnome , 2) it works 3) the config options aren't hidden 4 ) its shiny :) |
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| 03:13.53 | AndrzejL | and I can add incredibly configurable and adjustable and functionable and easy |
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| 03:29.38 | Deathspawn | 1) widgets (<3 comic book widget) 2) it's become faster lately, and uses less memory. 3) they havent changed the UI drastically on me, 4) dolphin has git management built in, 5) it makes gnome apps look better, 6) Window tabbing! 7) custom application/window settings |
| 03:31.45 | AndrzejL | guys did kde utils changed it's name? |
| 03:32.53 | AndrzejL | ah nvm ;) |
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| 03:59.48 | AndrzejL | Ok I am getting overtired or blind |
| 03:59.57 | AndrzejL | :) think I need some sleep |
| 04:00.05 | AndrzejL | weird it's only 5 am... |
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| 04:51.44 | Ademan | can anyone explain this to me? http://community.kde.org/KWin/Wayland the "What is Wayland" part seems to contradict itself. Wayland is a display server. the display server is moved into KWin. Can anyone clarify that? |
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| 05:09.36 | 18WAA1BUC | How can I reorder my favourites in the Lancelot menu? |
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| 05:25.22 | Aranel | Hi, for some reason plasma-desktop crashes everytime I try to start it, with "KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed: "The name org.kde.kded was not provided by any .service files" ", tried removing temp and reboot with no success. any help please? |
| 05:26.06 | Aranel | By the way, KDE.4.8.2 on Kubuntu latest. |
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| 06:16.00 | windbuntu | anyone tried netrunner4.1 (default desktop is kde) |
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| 06:23.01 | robinds | Hi - how do I configure autostart for other users without allowing this other user admin rights? |
| 06:23.25 | robinds | (I'm on 4.5) |
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| 07:06.11 | robotdevil | Is there some way to reenable the back button in kde4 application launcher instead of having to select the text at the top right |
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| 07:06.45 | robotdevil | I believe it was changed in kde 4.6 or 4.7 and I really dont like the new way |
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| 09:10.36 | EvilGuru | After using kmenuedit I found it got stock on "Updating System Configuration"; after a few minutes I manually ran kbuildsycoco4 --nonincremental and was told http://paste.kde.org/487352/ |
| 09:11.10 | EvilGuru | What is 'the file' the error message talks about and what is the best way to fix it? |
| 09:11.27 | annma | what is this "Fluid" app? |
| 09:11.48 | EvilGuru | Good question |
| 09:12.22 | EvilGuru | Ah, FLTK GUI Designer, looks like it camr along for the ride with fltk |
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| 09:12.56 | annma | report to them that it doe snto follow XDG standards |
| 09:13.28 | EvilGuru | http://paste.kde.org/487358/ is the file itself, I'll open a report in a minute |
| 09:15.18 | annma | I don't have time to look at it EvilGuru |
| 09:16.00 | EvilGuru | Not to worry, I am sure the fluid devs will figure out what is awry :) |
| 09:16.17 | annma | yes |
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| 09:16.52 | EvilGuru | Do you know where the menu spec file (that the second error talks about) resides? |
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| 09:17.34 | pinotree | iirc ~/.config/menus/ |
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| 09:22.07 | }ls{ | I'd like to script the position of a Konsole window, which is started by a dbus command. But I can't find any suitable dbus interface. Some X* commands can give me the position, but I can't "move" em. Any ideas? |
| 09:23.23 | pinotree | }ls{: wmctrl |
| 09:26.48 | }ls{ | thanks, pinotree! |
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| 09:41.02 | fasta | konsole -e 'tmux attach' vs xterm -e 'tmux attach'and gnome-terminal -e 'tmux attach' don't do the same things; the latter two work, konsole is broken. |
| 09:41.38 | fasta | Is there some way to make konsole work? |
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| 10:00.53 | fasta | Fixed it already, at least partly. |
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| 10:35.01 | d34df00d | Hi! |
| 10:35.12 | d34df00d | What's the best place to ask a question regarding development with KDE's Phonon? |
| 10:35.24 | d34df00d | To be more precise, a strange behavior of the phonon-vlc backend. |
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| 10:39.11 | DaZ | #kde-multimedia |
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| 10:39.22 | d34df00d | Thanks! |
| 10:39.29 | DaZ | yw |
| 10:39.38 | DaZ | although why not use gstreamer backend? :f |
| 10:40.08 | d34df00d | Cause I rather develop an app using Phonon and I can't force all my users to use the gstreamer backend :) |
| 10:40.30 | d34df00d | So I'd like to debug the issue to make sure it works everywhere. |
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| 10:40.41 | DaZ | uhm. |
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| 10:42.21 | cb400f | d34df00d: there must be a phonon mailing lsit |
| 10:42.39 | rjk | Hi. Do you know if (and how) I can change amount of entries shown in main KDE panel (the one activated by the button in the bottom left corner)? |
| 10:42.59 | DaZ | or just report a bug on this kde bugtracker thingie :f |
| 10:43.24 | DaZ | entries as in search results or wat |
| 10:43.47 | cb400f | rjk: the kickoff launch menu? ... e.g. by dragging on the top right corner to make it smaller |
| 10:44.30 | d34df00d | Thanks for the hints! I'd see if there is anything related in KDE's bugtracker and write a mail in the maillist if this won't be resolved on #kde-multimedia in a reasonable amount of time :) |
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| 10:44.53 | Papierkorb | Hello. is this the right channel to ask about using KDElibs, or should i head over to #kde-devel? |
| 10:46.00 | rjk | cb400f, Right, that was easy. Thanks! |
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| 12:15.29 | BluesKaj | hiyas all |
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| 12:21.49 | AndrzejL | Afternoon boys and girls |
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| 12:22.00 | AndrzejL | I am running into a tiny snag here |
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| 12:22.26 | AndrzejL | kdeping runtime seeks for this file unionoftimezoneobservanceeventfreebusyjournaltimezonetodo.h |
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| 12:22.46 | AndrzejL | which is suppose to be installed by kdepim runtime... |
| 12:22.56 | AndrzejL | or kdepim runtime debug |
| 12:23.18 | AndrzejL | I have kdepim libs and kdepim installed btw |
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| 13:15.09 | firefox88 | Are the kde3 maintainers still pubishing secutiry patches for kde3? |
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| 13:16.36 | thiago | division by zero |
| 13:16.44 | AndrzejL | firefox88: I am not sure but I very much doubt that |
| 13:16.52 | thiago | all of the 0 maintainers are doing everything and nothing :-) |
| 13:16.54 | AndrzejL | afternoon thiago :) |
| 13:17.39 | thiago | some long-term distributions might be still maintaining it, but there are no upstream maintainers anymore |
| 13:18.04 | AndrzejL | I think I am missing a dependancy or I am not keeping the correct order... |
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| 13:52.02 | shevy2 | Hi |
| 13:52.09 | shevy2 | when I try to open a pdf in okular |
| 13:52.31 | shevy2 | it seems it wants to start a new instance of okular. is it possible to keep only one instance of okular, and load all pdf files into that instance? I am on fluxbox right now tho |
| 13:52.54 | pinotree | that's what it's doing already |
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| 13:55.45 | shevy2 | hmm ok |
| 13:55.54 | pinotree | how are you opening documents? |
| 13:56.27 | shevy2 | "okular *pdf" or "okular *pdf &" usually |
| 13:56.44 | pinotree | that starts a new instance |
| 13:56.44 | shevy2 | it seems to always want to open a new instance of okular right now, perhaps this is because I am running fluxbox rather than kde hmm |
| 13:56.48 | shevy2 | aha |
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| 13:57.24 | pinotree | i don't see why it should be a problem though |
| 13:57.37 | thiago | is okular a KUniqueApplication? |
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| 13:57.45 | pinotree | no |
| 13:57.59 | thiago | then every time you launch it, it launches a new process |
| 13:58.12 | pinotree | i know |
| 13:58.15 | shevy2 | ok i see, thanks for the explanation! |
| 13:58.27 | pinotree | i initially thought he was doing file → open |
| 13:58.31 | thiago | pinotree: right, and now shevy2 knows too :-) |
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| 13:59.26 | shevy2 | :) |
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| 14:15.01 | AndrzejL | Guys anyone knows why am I missing unionoftimezoneobservanceeventfreebusyjournaltimezonetodo.h? :D |
| 14:15.16 | AndrzejL | it should come with kdepim-runtime :D |
| 14:15.32 | AndrzejL | I am installing kdepim-runtime and it wants this file |
| 14:15.44 | AndrzejL | more digging - nepomuk should bring this file... |
| 14:15.54 | AndrzejL | but I don't think it does :D |
| 14:15.59 | AndrzejL | got kinda lost :D! |
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| 16:46.17 | [Moviuro] | hi all :) |
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| 17:28.35 | AndrzejL | I don't get it... |
| 17:29.02 | AndrzejL | kdebase is now changed into kdebase-apps? |
| 17:29.31 | AndrzejL | I have downloaded everything from 4.8.3 folder but it's just... weird |
| 17:30.34 | AndrzejL | workspace give trouble... Awwww... :D it's just constant fun ;D |
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| 17:35.55 | AndrzejL | what package provides desktop icons? :) |
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| 17:36.55 | AndrzejL | I have oxygen icons installed btw... |
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| 17:37.41 | AndrzejL | CMake Error: File /media/Disk_1/Compiled/KDE4/4.8.3/build/kde-workspace-4.8.3/plasma/desktop/shell/data/layouts/org.kde.plasma-desktop.defaultPanel/metadata.desktop does not exist. |
| 17:39.42 | AndrzejL | guys? |
| 17:39.46 | AndrzejL | no sleeping |
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| 17:52.05 | AndrzejL | arrrrrrrrrrgh ok now it's no more funny... :| |
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| 17:59.21 | AndrzejL | -- Configuring done |
| 17:59.21 | AndrzejL | CMake Error at /usr/share/apps/cmake/modules/KDE4Macros.cmake:678 (add_library): |
| 17:59.21 | AndrzejL | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.21 | AndrzejL | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.46 | AndrzejL | :| :P |
| 18:03.33 | AndrzejL | guys is kde-baseapps the kdebase package or do I need to get something else as well |
| 18:03.42 | AndrzejL | jaysus this channel is quiet today... |
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| 18:05.00 | AndrzejL | I am clearly missing dependancy... |
| 18:05.08 | AndrzejL | OR the package is messed up :| |
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| 18:18.33 | brainerazer | ArchLinux KDE 4.8.3 when I use sliders in Power settings my brightness changes like a charm but using any of the brightness keys causes it to reset to the max level and no lower. Can anybody help? |
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| 19:21.14 | fasta | How can I modify the command which gets run when I run Konsole in krunner? |
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| 19:23.00 | Adaptee | fasta: there is a runner for konsole profile |
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| 19:25.00 | fasta | Adaptee: that doesn't give me enough information to solve it. |
| 19:25.32 | fasta | A user friendly way would be 'right click' on found entry and modify it. |
| 19:26.57 | fasta | Adaptee: can you be a whole lot more specific? |
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| 19:27.52 | Adaptee | you can create different konsole profiles for different common commands you want to run in konsole, the pick that profile in krunner |
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| 19:30.57 | fasta | Adaptee: and how do I pick that profile in krunner? |
| 19:31.31 | fasta | Adaptee: it seems to make much more sense to just modify the lauuncher command. |
| 19:31.35 | fasta | Adaptee: isn't that posisble? |
| 19:31.42 | fasta | possible* |
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| 19:33.26 | Adaptee | fasta: enter its profile name |
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| 19:35.07 | fasta | Adaptee: could you stick to answering the question? |
| 19:35.22 | fasta | Adaptee: I asked a specific question and you decided to answer a different one. |
| 19:35.32 | fasta | Adaptee: if you don't know, fine. |
| 19:37.56 | fasta | Adaptee: I found the answer myself already. |
| 19:38.09 | fasta | I wonder how other people can ever use KDE. |
| 19:38.23 | fasta | Perhaps they are just satisfied with defaults :/ |
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| 19:40.01 | Sweetchuck | fasta: 90% of users use the default settings (OS independent) |
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| 19:46.24 | fasta | Sweetchuck: if I click on gnome-terminal, it resizes the window. Why and how do I make it stop? |
| 19:47.00 | Sweetchuck | I had never use gnome-terminal |
| 19:47.03 | fasta | Sweetchuck: it minimized it to a state where text in it is barely readable with no space for anything else. |
| 19:47.09 | fasta | Sweetchuck: it's the window manager. |
| 19:47.28 | fasta | Sweetchuck: it has nothing to do with gnome-terminal. |
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| 19:49.16 | Sweetchuck | ok. sorry, I missunderstand you |
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| 19:53.25 | fasta | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/880734 |
| 19:53.37 | fasta | I hate it when all these bugs I run into have already been reported 7 months ago. |
| 19:53.57 | fasta | It seems like people report things, but there is nobody on the other wide of the fence fixing things. |
| 19:54.12 | fasta | I mean, then you can better say "nobody is here". |
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| 20:17.28 | factor | Where is the kde dev channel |
| 20:17.54 | factor | Was wanting to know if I could make a kde4.x program written in C an dnot C++ |
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| 20:20.13 | factor | oh kde-devel |
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| 20:55.37 | hussam | hi, http://download.kde.org/unstable/ I see a 4.8.80 (is kdelibs 4.8.80 tagged from 4.8 branch?) |
| 20:57.37 | Phr33d0m | try to access that folder |
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| 20:57.54 | hussam | I can't |
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| 21:17.43 | AndrzejL | K I gave up :D |
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| 21:25.35 | AndrzejL | Workspace was making so many problems that I could not figure it out |
| 21:25.52 | AndrzejL | first it was giving me metadata.desktop errors |
| 21:26.11 | AndrzejL | then it could not find cpp file for I think kde system tray... |
| 21:26.26 | AndrzejL | :) weirdo mac weird |
| 21:27.21 | AndrzejL | possible reason ID Ten T error... |
| 21:28.01 | AndrzejL | and now that I am back to 4.6.5 I have a surprize :D |
| 21:28.19 | AndrzejL | KNemo has no icons in tray - just two white thingies :) |
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| 21:30.29 | silverrocker | I'm trying out telepathy (in specific, I'm trying it with KDE IM Contacts list) |
| 21:30.43 | silverrocker | I try to add my accounts but they are all stuck on connecting. how can I solve this? |
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| 22:28.28 | BarkingFish | Evening all. Who do you report a broken Plasma widget to? |
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| 22:31.08 | Phr33d0m | BarkingFish if the dev has his webpage/contact details in the About tab -> to him, otherwise to bugs.kde.org |
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| 22:33.36 | BarkingFish | anyone? |
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| 22:35.47 | Lepje | Hello all |
| 22:35.54 | BarkingFish | Well I'll mention it anyway in case somebody knows - The LCD Weather station plasma widget is borked. I've had it sitting on my desktop for 2 hours (on 30 minute updates) and it's not updated. |
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| 22:36.16 | BarkingFish | I set up another weather widget, from the same source (wetter.com), same location, and it's updated immediately |
| 22:36.37 | Lepje | Can someone tell me i have a question about .desktop files someone here to help me get some info on them |
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| 22:38.23 | Phr33d0m | I think I'm in his ignore list somehow :P |
| 22:39.22 | Lepje | In who's ignore list? |
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| 22:41.32 | BarkingFish | You're not in anyone's ignore list, Lepje - I simply think nobody is helping |
| 22:42.47 | sandman667 | which is understandable, since Lepje has not managed to ask a concrete question |
| 22:43.09 | Lepje | It is a concrete question i am looking for help with .desktop files |
| 22:43.27 | BarkingFish | sandman667, I did however, and i'm not being helped either :) |
| 22:43.50 | sandman667 | perhaps no one knows an answer, then ;) |
| 22:43.59 | BarkingFish | I guess as I've been told before, most of the people in here are in Europe, and late at night it's not easy to get anyone to respond |
| 22:44.20 | BarkingFish | then again, I'm busy during the day, the night time is the only time I get to get on the net |
| 22:44.35 | sandman667 | well. i'm in europe, but i just can't help you ;) |
| 22:45.27 | sandman667 | and, Phr33d0m DID answer.. ;) |
| 22:45.45 | BarkingFish | I didn't see Phr33d0m's reply |
| 22:45.52 | sandman667 | <Phr33d0m> BarkingFish if the dev has his webpage/contact details in the About tab -> to him, otherwise to bugs.kde.org |
| 22:45.54 | BarkingFish | he might be in my ignore list, or a mask he uses may be in it |
| 22:46.19 | Lepje | Ok |
| 22:46.22 | BarkingFish | i have a lot of wide masks to cover stuff, sandman667 - apologies Phr33d0m - I'll check yours against that list now |
| 22:46.24 | Lepje | here comes the quest http://paste.kde.org/487646/ |
| 22:46.30 | Lepje | question |
| 22:47.08 | Lepje | I marked to lines where it shows DIrectory how can I change those lines to make it also show files and directories |
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| 22:47.22 | BarkingFish | sandman667, he's in the list specifically under the current mask - I can't recall why though, so I'll remove now. Sorry for the bother |
| 22:47.36 | sandman667 | no problem :) |
| 22:47.42 | BarkingFish | apologies for that, Phr33d0m - it may have been a mistake |
| 22:47.53 | sandman667 | shit happens ;) |
| 22:48.05 | Phr33d0m | it does, it really does :) |
| 22:48.31 | kdepepo | Lepje, define "it" |
| 22:49.09 | Lepje | .desktop files from the paste bin I linked |
| 22:50.03 | BarkingFish | Lepje, do I understand that you want to change the tree modules so they show files and folders, rather than just directories? |
| 22:50.15 | Lepje | Yes |
| 22:50.53 | ZenGuy311 | anybody using kde 4.8.3 and opera ? |
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| 22:51.43 | BarkingFish | Ok, so I think what Lepje wants is for the TreeModule not just to show directories, and for the Konqueror sidebar tree to do the same, so files and folders instead of directories only - kdepepo or anyone else, that's what the IT is :) |
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| 22:52.32 | craigevil | people actually use Opera? :) |
| 22:52.55 | BarkingFish | yeah, shocked me too, craigevil - but it's true :P |
| 22:53.49 | ZenGuy311 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.52 | craigevil | havent messed with it since they added that unite crap |
| 22:54.23 | ZenGuy311 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.57 | Lepje | I like konquerer as my browser it does everything |
| 22:56.39 | BarkingFish | Konqueror good, Firefox 12.0 better :) |
| 23:01.11 | Lepje | Well I guess it a no on my question |
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| 23:04.15 | ZenGuy311 | konqueror is kind of basic |
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| 23:05.30 | Lepje | Would be a good future to add |
| 23:05.58 | Lepje | Because if you could show files you would a complete development program |
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| 23:24.24 | AndrzejL | ok... |
| 23:24.35 | AndrzejL | running kdesrc... |
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| 23:26.05 | AndrzejL | any advice before I will do it? |
| 23:26.16 | AndrzejL | I setup qt and kde dir to /usr/ |
| 23:26.31 | AndrzejL | and code dir to a place where I have lot of space |
| 23:26.42 | AndrzejL | about 12 gigs or so |
| 23:26.59 | AndrzejL | Building qt (1/26) Waiting for source code update. |
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| 23:27.41 | AndrzejL | this is gonna take a while huh? |
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| 23:35.43 | sdoerner | AndrzejL: #kde-devel is probably more appropriate |
| 23:36.07 | sdoerner | AndrzejL: and it is unlike that you really need to build qt on your own |
| 23:36.13 | AndrzejL | mmm probably You are right :) |
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| 23:36.24 | sdoerner | you can just use the one installed by your distribution for most cases |
| 23:37.17 | AndrzejL | will see in a bit :D |
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| 23:38.09 | sdoerner | and your distro probably installs into /usr |
| 23:38.26 | sdoerner | so if you set kdedir to /usr, you will overwrite the files installed by your distro |
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| 23:39.23 | sdoerner | so I'd recommend either something below ~/ (if you just want to use trunk when developing) or /usr/local (if you always want to run trunk) |
| 23:39.38 | AndrzejL | yes I actually removed KDE4 from my distro completely - I dont want to have kde4.6.5 and 4.8.3 on top of it |
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| 23:41.03 | sdoerner | still /usr/local is better removing stuff later, because it should be empty to start with (whereas /usr has all the stuff from your package manager) |
| 23:42.47 | AndrzejL | I am building the KDE4 in /media/Disk_1/Compiled/KDE4/kdesrc-build/KDE4_Build before installing :) |
| 23:43.01 | AndrzejL | so it's nice and empty ;) |
| 23:44.17 | AndrzejL | btw - #kde-devel does not exists and #kde-dev has 2 users inside... :) |
| 23:44.46 | sdoerner | but when you do "make install" it goes into your kdedir |
| 23:45.08 | AndrzejL | yes and it will overwrite everything right? |
| 23:45.10 | pinotree | #kde-devel does exist |
| 23:45.36 | AndrzejL | it was empty when I joined |
| 23:45.41 | AndrzejL | maybe different network? |
| 23:45.45 | pinotree | no, here |
| 23:46.00 | AndrzejL | Oh wait... |
| 23:46.09 | Phr33d0m | ~250 people there |
| 23:46.22 | AndrzejL | i have joined using mozilla network no wonder it was not there :) |
| 23:46.29 | pinotree | typical PEBCAK error |
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