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| 03:03.58 | JoeSomebody | those things are always too small |
| 03:04.09 | JoeSomebody | Download Photos ... |
| 03:04.15 | JoeSomebody | nic echoices |
| 03:04.25 | JoeSomebody | niice choices |
| 03:04.27 | JoeSomebody | arrgg |
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| 03:05.02 | JoeSomebody | all the popups shoudl be twice as wide, can this be done? |
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| 03:06.25 | JoeSomebody | pclinuxos kde latest updated |
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| 03:36.07 | diegoviola | ty devs |
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| 03:51.07 | diegoviola | f-- yeah! |
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| 03:58.27 | diegoviola | now if only the taskbar issue could be fixed... |
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| 06:43.38 | FabianS | *r |
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| 06:44.57 | FabianS | yay |
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| 07:22.22 | cassavuota | where would i find documentation about kdialog? |
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| 07:29.51 | infinull | cassavouta: I've always jused used `man kdialog` |
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| 07:47.14 | cassavuota | juanmabc: thank you, man has no kdialog entry |
| 07:48.32 | annma | kdialog? |
| 07:48.42 | annma | cassavuota: what are you after? |
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| 07:52.53 | cassavuota | annma: i want feedback when a script exits. kdialog seemed reasonable at first glance |
| 07:53.24 | annma | yes but what do you really want? |
| 07:53.38 | annma | doesn't kdialog --help answer your question? |
| 07:54.48 | cassavuota | it certainly did, man kdialog didn't, which is what i have tried |
| 07:55.03 | annma | OK |
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| 07:55.16 | annma | when you have a more precise question you can ask it |
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| 09:02.03 | cassavuota | annma: thanks. any way to call knotify from bash? i'm having it work in a python script only |
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| 09:02.47 | annma | doing what? |
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| 09:04.16 | cassavuota | doing knotifying me |
| 09:05.12 | annma | you're not very explanative in your questions and answers |
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| 09:05.58 | cassavuota | i take offense in that |
| 09:06.16 | jarco | lol |
| 09:06.25 | annma | I am explaining why I don't answer properly |
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| 09:11.47 | jarco | cassavuota: what do you mean by call? I just tried the commands I got when doing kdialog --help and they work. |
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| 09:21.26 | cassavuota | jarco: oh, i did that and kdialog works fine. now, i'm looking into knotify and dbus but haven't found the official documentation yet. |
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| 09:22.42 | annma | in a terminal type: qdbus org.kde.knotify and go on |
| 09:22.48 | annma | or use qdbusviewer |
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| 09:24.08 | jarco | ohw sorry. I misinterpreted your question :p |
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| 09:24.59 | annma | jarco: there's no real question, as I said |
| 09:25.05 | jarco | :) |
| 09:25.10 | annma | ;) |
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| 10:01.15 | tdn | I have a Kubuntu VM in virtualbox. It has suddenly stopped automatically adjusting the screen resolution when I resize the VM window. I have vboxadditions installed. How do I fix this? Is this a problem that should be addressed in vbox or in KDE? |
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| 10:17.15 | fasta | How can I use xdotool in combination with firefox in kwin (if kwin is at all relevant?)? |
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| 10:17.42 | fasta | The examples from the xdotool website do not work with KDE. |
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| 10:27.06 | solidus-lake | i'm using 4.8 just upgraded from 4.7 on gentoo and although my eth1 is up and ready and i can ping google, kde doesn't think i have a network connection |
| 10:27.08 | solidus-lake | :? |
| 10:27.39 | solidus-lake | this is really frustrating as this stops me from bieng able to use any internet application through my deskop, its a hardwired eth connection to a router that is definitely active via networkmanager |
| 10:27.46 | solidus-lake | any ideas for debugging this? |
| 10:28.29 | mgraesslin | fasta: what do you want to achieve? |
| 10:28.58 | fasta | mgraesslin: open firebug console when firefox starts (i.e. press F12). |
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| 10:30.09 | mgraesslin | ok kwin is not relevant for that |
| 10:30.23 | mgraesslin | most likely the events are eaten somewhere |
| 10:30.33 | mgraesslin | I would solve that in a different layer: Firefox |
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| 10:57.04 | bounty_ | hi peoples |
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| 11:14.54 | wodim | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pop8fwtqn_c/TycKrwzCvZI/AAAAAAAAAgY/4t9-s5r2o8M/s1600/kde-structure.jpg |
| 11:15.50 | annma | based on what? |
| 11:16.55 | annma | wodim: ? |
| 11:18.25 | wodim | found it elsewhere, nothing to add |
| 11:18.37 | annma | bah |
| 11:18.47 | annma | lame |
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| 11:57.22 | tdn | I have a Kubuntu VM in virtualbox. It has suddenly stopped automatically adjusting the screen resolution when I resize the VM window. I have vboxadditions installed. How do I fix this? Is this a problem that should be addressed in vbox or in KDE? |
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| 12:00.10 | obiwahn | kde complains that is unable to open the display |
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| 12:01.00 | obiwahn | i do not know what to do:( i cant get it working with Xephyr |
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| 12:19.44 | ingwa | any kde forum admins here? |
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| 12:20.25 | annma | maybe in #kde-www ingwa |
| 12:20.38 | ingwa | annma: thanks |
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| 12:35.47 | csmart | I'm having trouble configuring a remote under KDE (F16) - lirc is started and configured. remote works in XMBC and command line tools. kremotecontrol sees the remote and detects key presses.. |
| 12:35.55 | csmart | ..I've added to my remote the sound mixer collection and applied it, but pressing the keys doesn't do anything (although I can see kremote icon flicking when I press them) |
| 12:35.59 | csmart | any ideas? new to this.. |
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| 12:45.36 | obiwahn | mh ok i have the session startet now |
| 12:45.42 | obiwahn | but the desktop does not appear |
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| 13:27.47 | ilyak | New konsole tries to stretch tab sizes |
| 13:28.15 | ilyak | I.e. when I open fifteen tabs in konsole their names no longer fit in them and are replaced by ... instead of scrolling |
| 13:28.33 | ilyak | and when I open twenty tabs I get scrolling plus tiny tabs with ... on them |
| 13:28.50 | ilyak | How do I disable that and make it behave like it used to? |
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| 13:35.03 | annma | ilyak: since when did it change? |
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| 14:10.27 | ilyak | annma: 10.04 had it OK |
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| 14:10.44 | ilyak | tabs never shrank past size needed to fit the whole text |
| 14:10.56 | ilyak | talking about kubuntu version |
| 14:11.04 | ilyak | No idea what kde version that corresponds to |
| 14:12.03 | HolyBimbam | hey guys |
| 14:12.09 | HolyBimbam | Day Against DRM \o/ |
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| 14:13.11 | BluesKaj | install kubuntu-restricted-extras , HolyBimbam |
| 14:13.41 | BluesKaj | oops wrong command , sorry ..r=too many chats going on here |
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| 14:13.49 | HolyBimbam | omg, nope, dont want proprietary software on my system :p |
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| 14:16.52 | BluesKaj | HolyBimbam, libdvdcss2? |
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| 14:18.30 | HolyBimbam | BluesKaj what are you giving me hints for? i don't have any problem or question, but thank you ;) |
| 14:20.46 | BluesKaj | HolyBimbam, ok , I thought the "Day Against DRM" post was a hint |
| 14:21.25 | BluesKaj | I guess i shouldn't assume |
| 14:21.31 | HolyBimbam | :D |
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| 14:38.09 | ilyak | HolyBimbam: Is there still any notable drm left? |
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| 14:39.44 | HolyBimbam | ilyak oh yes, there's LOTS of DRM on e-books |
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| 14:51.30 | ilyak | HolyBimbam: I have a torrent of 20G of zipped books |
| 14:51.48 | ilyak | Which have no drm on them |
| 14:51.57 | ilyak | And that's pretty much enough for me right now |
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| 14:52.48 | HolyBimbam | ilyak then you're a lucky guy :D but amazon-kindle-users are bound to amazon's drm-restrictions and we have to fight that ^^ |
| 14:54.15 | ilyak | I've heard you can make your own ebooks from nonrestricted text files and transfer those to your kindle |
| 14:54.51 | HolyBimbam | and as bad as amazon are nintendo and sony who lock their devices |
| 14:55.24 | HolyBimbam | sure you can, but all the books bought by amazon are restricted and locked-up and chained and handcuffed |
| 14:55.31 | DaZ | dunno, my sony reader doesn't seem so locked :f |
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| 14:57.12 | ilyak | Less reason to buy. Basic economy: DRM makes product worse, once it's worthless to you you stop buying |
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| 14:58.17 | ilyak | With games it's harder than that. The game might have no DRM but what if it's only available from the cloud? |
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| 14:59.06 | ilyak | Do not like the newest version? Game became unavailable for some reason? You're screwed |
| 14:59.15 | ilyak | The problem here is not DRM, it's ephemerity |
| 14:59.35 | ilyak | However it also enables new opportunities so I can't say it's an entirely bad thing |
| 15:00.13 | ilyak | If you have a MMO game and the server goes under, no luck for you |
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| 15:00.53 | ilyak | You might not have the chance to remember your young years and play your youth games in twenty years |
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| 15:01.21 | ilyak | For many reasons: paradigm shift, hardware incompatibility, drm, no server, ephemerity |
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| 15:47.05 | BlessJah | there is "automatic" checkbox when editing action, but it doesn't seem to work the way i would expect it should |
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| 15:56.40 | UberPinguin | I have a bluetooth mouse that I use while at work. If I suspend or hibernate from within KDE, or if the mouse times out from inactivity, I cannot get it to function again. KDE sees it as connected, but moving the mouse produces no activity in X. If I switch to a vtty, gpm sees the mouse activity and moves the cursor around. It's only broken in X. I do not experience this problem with any other WM or DE. Disconnecting and reconnecting the mouse does |
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| 16:31.40 | UberPinguin | reported as https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299382 |
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| 16:34.12 | Richlv | can i customise what kwrite, kate or something uses as a marker for sections that it allows to expand/collapse ? |
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| 16:41.21 | yecril71pl | Cantor stops responding when R returns a matrix 50̣×50 |
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| 16:48.42 | rindolf | yecril71pl: hi. |
| 16:48.45 | rindolf | yecril71pl: what is Cantor? |
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| 16:50.33 | yecril71pl | Computer-aided mathematics in KDE |
| 16:50.34 | aditsu | hi, I think I set graphicssystem to raster once, how can I check whether it is still set and where I did it? I can't seem to find anything |
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| 16:54.14 | rindolf | yecril71pl: how do I get R to return a 50*50 matrix? |
| 16:54.59 | yecril71pl | KDE bug 299385 |
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| 16:55.22 | yecril71pl | TL;DR: use outer |
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| 16:58.57 | annma | yecril71pl: and R standalone works OK? |
| 16:59.17 | annma | I hav=te it when you mentionbug numbers ithout the link yecril71pl |
| 16:59.28 | annma | I hate it when you mentionbug numbers without the link yecril71pl |
| 16:59.45 | annma | what the hell does it do |
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| 17:00.22 | yecril71pl | http://bugs.kde.org/299385 |
| 17:00.35 | yecril71pl | R standalone prints the thing to the console |
| 17:00.51 | yecril71pl | You cannot hang a console, you know :-) |
| 17:01.06 | Zaister | hm, lately my taskmanager isn't showing all running programs anymore |
| 17:01.28 | yecril71pl | outer evaluates a function to a matrix of values |
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| 17:01.46 | Zaister | any idea why this happens and what I can do about it? |
| 17:02.31 | annma | yecril71pl: you implies Cantor takes time but displays the thing in the end |
| 17:02.37 | annma | is that right? |
| 17:02.39 | yecril71pl | Right. |
| 17:02.58 | yecril71pl | The problem is, it takes time in a user-unfriendly way. |
| 17:03.21 | annma | "stops" in the bug title is misleading |
| 17:03.35 | annma | how shoudl it asks yo? with a dialog? |
| 17:03.47 | yecril71pl | I think so. A warning. |
| 17:04.19 | annma | be specific in bug reports |
| 17:04.35 | annma | what do you expect? |
| 17:04.37 | yecril71pl | I have no idea how to say "stops" without implying "stops forever". |
| 17:04.47 | annma | forever? |
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| 17:05.05 | annma | I thought the result was displayed after some time |
| 17:05.10 | yecril71pl | You got the impression that Cantor stops forever; it only stops for a while. |
| 17:05.10 | fasta | I see a thick black line around the popup that I get when hovering over a launcher. I doubt that's how it is supposed to look like. |
| 17:05.35 | yecril71pl | I expect Cantor to encourage the operator to discard the result. |
| 17:05.35 | annma | yecril71pl: think of what you expect then |
| 17:05.35 | fasta | Is that a known bug? Does it just mean that something is not enabled? |
| 17:05.37 | annma | in terms of UI |
| 17:06.34 | annma | however it's weird that Cantor does not react as R |
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| 17:06.59 | yecril71pl | R does not prettyprint things, it just prints them. |
| 17:07.02 | annma | as Cantor is only a KDE way of displayning friendly R |
| 17:07.20 | annma | but why is there a delay in Cantor and not in R? |
| 17:07.39 | yecril71pl | Because of the trouble with formatting the output. |
| 17:08.08 | annma | ah so it's a display problem |
| 17:08.18 | yecril71pl | Yes. |
| 17:08.50 | annma | so you want a warning saying display will take long |
| 17:09.03 | yecril71pl | with an option to discard the result. |
| 17:09.10 | annma | goes having dinner |
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| 17:09.21 | yecril71pl | Good appetite. |
| 17:09.26 | yecril71pl | goes having supper |
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| 18:18.21 | pi_anto | does anyone experience kdeinit crash at almost every system startup? if u did, how to solve? |
| 18:18.32 | pi_anto | hi btw :) |
| 18:18.56 | annma | what's the crash backtrace? put it in a pastebin please |
| 18:19.05 | annma | and when did this start happening? |
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| 18:20.05 | pi_anto | since some versions of kde 4.8, like 2-3 weeks |
| 18:20.24 | pi_anto | since system is booted now, is there anyway to take backtrace from any log? |
| 18:20.43 | annma | did yo uupgrade your distribution then? |
| 18:21.20 | pi_anto | i'm using archlinux, rolling |
| 18:21.43 | annma | did you upgrade to 4.8 then? |
| 18:21.50 | annma | or was it a new installation? |
| 18:22.43 | pi_anto | upgraded, i installed kde when it was at 4.6 |
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| 18:23.05 | annma | so I guess something went wrong in your upgrade |
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| 18:24.50 | pi_anto | looking around some old posts on forums it seems it's related to phonon backend, vlc one. but i'm using gstreamer |
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| 18:25.15 | pi_anto | i'll try to move kde dir out and let system create a new one, and see if crash comes again |
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| 18:35.02 | pi_anto | annma: crash keeps showing |
| 18:35.13 | pi_anto | annma: i'll pastebin the backtrace |
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| 18:38.15 | pi_anto | annma: http://pastebin.com/ff2qcFL9 |
| 18:42.41 | annma | pi_anto: you have a problem with alsa |
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| 18:43.14 | annma | #11 0xaf9d069c in snd_hctl_handle_events () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 |
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| 18:45.59 | pi_anto | annma: i see. could it be a problem with kmix? i could try to disable it at login |
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| 18:48.21 | annma | alsa is used by kmix so disabling kmix will disable the crash |
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| 18:53.16 | pi_anto | annma: disabling kmix, no crash at startup |
| 18:53.50 | annma | yes |
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| 18:58.05 | pi_anto | well, i prefer keeping kmix, this crash doesn't make the system to not work :) |
| 18:58.11 | pi_anto | thx for support! |
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| 18:59.56 | merlin1991 | I'm not 100% sure if it's kde related, but I'd like launch a programm with no border (setting it works, but is tedious todo each time I launch said programm), can I somehow have kde remember that window state / force it on start? |
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| 19:04.41 | JLP | merlin1991: right clik on title bar → Advanced → Special application settings → 4th tabe, 1st setting |
| 19:04.48 | poisond | hi ^^ Is there a cli application to wipe out everything remoely related to akonadi (config files, database, ....) or do I have to do it manually all the time? |
| 19:06.08 | merlin1991 | JLP: uh what's the shortcut to bring up that menu when you've already whiped the border? |
| 19:06.48 | JLP | alt+f3 |
| 19:06.50 | cb400f | poisond: guess you could write a script very easily... 4-5 lines of rm .this-and-that |
| 19:06.53 | cb400f | or mv |
| 19:07.17 | cb400f | starting with 'akonadictl stop' |
| 19:07.58 | cb400f | but a reset button might be helpful :-) |
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| 19:08.53 | merlin1991 | hm this is odd |
| 19:09.04 | merlin1991 | now the application in question is forced to fullscreen :/ |
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| 19:09.51 | poisond | cb400f: eh, except it splatters crapfiles all over the place ... .config, .local, .kde and the fileset doesn't seem static. Plus I have no idea which exactly i HAVE TO delete so I can read mail again after it soiled itself :P |
| 19:10.30 | merlin1991 | nothing I can't fix with a startup parameter, thanks JLP |
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| 19:10.44 | cb400f | poisond: then you can't do it manually either, can you ;-) |
| 19:11.57 | cb400f | and I don't think it uses any other locations than .config/akonadi/ .. .local/share/ ... and .kde/share/ if you want to nuke kmail settings too |
| 19:12.00 | poisond | cb400f: I keep deleting and restarting until kmail doesn't crash (the scientific approach :P) |
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| 19:18.36 | poisond | too bad kmail uses akonadi even if I point it to a maildir >.< |
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| 19:44.01 | yecril71pl | R images in Cantor without using raster have a vertical white line to the right |
| 19:45.18 | yecril71pl | trying to save an image results in a crash |
| 19:45.34 | annma | yecril71pl: no need to report here, file a bug report |
| 19:46.12 | annma | at best the devel would be in #kde-edu but he is not there right now |
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| 23:34.42 | diegoviola | hi |
| 23:34.48 | diegoviola | sometimes my taskbar gets screwed up like this: http://ompldr.org/vZG1raQ |
| 23:35.15 | diegoviola | anyone else has this issue too? |
| 23:35.20 | diegoviola | 4.8.3 |
| 23:35.37 | diegoviola | for example, konsole would overlap firefox, etc |
| 23:35.43 | diegoviola | and i have to reupdate the taskbar, etc |
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| 23:36.15 | diegoviola | re-update by opening task manager settings and then close it again |
| 23:36.15 | diegoviola | etc |
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| 23:42.57 | luc4_mac | Hi! Ever since I updated to 12.04 the network manager has stopped working. It reports the cable is unplugged. But if I run dhclient on my interface everything works. Anyone who experienced this? |
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| 23:57.12 | dyrvere | luc4_mac: Yeah, in Arch when the daemon for networkmanager is not started at boot, but some other thing is. :p checked your daemons? |
| 23:58.36 | luc4_mac | dyrvere: do you mean I should check if network-manager is running? |
| 23:58.50 | dyrvere | luc4_mac: Something like that. |
| 23:59.09 | luc4_mac | dyrvere: it is running. |
| 23:59.46 | luc4_mac | dyrvere: I issued sudo service network-manager status and the answer is running. |
