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00:11.20 | nolimitsoyalap | can i set the kde netbook interface as a system-wide default for new kde sessions somewhere? |
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02:22.24 | len | I just combined my launchers and toolbar using the new icon-only task manager widget. I love it. It's really, really nice. I have just one problem. I have a dual monitor setup, but often only use one of them and have the other one turned off. When I have a lot of copies of a program running, and I hover the applications icon on the new io-taskman, the horizontal row of thumbnails that gets displays spills across both montors. Is there a way |
02:22.24 | len | to set the tooltip thumbnails to confine themselves to the active montor? |
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02:23.12 | len | *I mean I just combined my launchers and taskmananger |
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02:39.20 | RedAshes | Hello, I am trying to set up kde so that it will mount/unmount my external usb drive through the menus instead of me having to modify /etc/fstab... anyone want to help? |
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02:43.29 | len | RedAshes, What distro are you using? I've never used any KDE4-based distro that didn't automount usb drives and have them show up automatically in dolphin when you plug them in. I don't see why you'd need to go monkeying around in fstab. |
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02:46.24 | RedAshes | slackware 13.37 .. when I press "mount" in the kde menu or in dolphin I get an error message. I had to modify /etc/fstab. also I can't use trash, I must rm everything from command line. |
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02:48.38 | len | Hmm. I think you'd better ask in slackware room. It sounds like a slackware issue of not setting up udev usb rules or something rather than a KDE issue. |
02:49.04 | RedAshes | len : thanks, sry bout that >_> |
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03:05.29 | Hail_Spacecake | I'm having some trouble running vvvvvv under kde |
03:05.41 | Hail_Spacecake | I can set windowed mode in the in game menu |
03:05.54 | Hail_Spacecake | but when I tab-siwtch windows it keeps trying to go to fullscreen |
03:05.59 | Hail_Spacecake | and I didn't have this problem before I started using kde |
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03:13.12 | len | Hail, I'm not sure what vvvvv is, but if you suspect you kwin is causing your problems, install openbox, then login to an openbox session and see if you still have the problem. |
03:14.54 | len | openbox is compact and no matter what distro you're using, only a couple of small packages are likely to be installed. |
03:15.18 | len | It's nice to have as a backup wm and troubleshooting device. |
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03:17.28 | len | If the problem does turn out to be kwin related, it is possible to run a openbox/kde session rather than a kwin/kde session. |
03:17.57 | len | But just test with a straight openbox session first. |
03:18.09 | Juan | You could configure rules for that app in kwin as well. |
03:18.31 | Juan | I do it for chromium, as it won't respect activities by default. |
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08:09.57 | burhan | is there a list of keyboard shortcuts for KDE |
08:10.45 | burhan | I am looking for one to switch desktops - ctrl+alt+right arrow doesn't work |
08:11.32 | cb400f | burhan: ctrl+f1/f2 etc. |
08:11.55 | cb400f | you can see and change the shortcuts in systemsettings -> shortcuts and gestures -> global shortcuts |
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08:13.30 | burhan | thank you |
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08:45.37 | Jonathan_R | what are the plans for kde5 |
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10:58.56 | kamilnadeem | How to make an audio call in Telepathy or Kopete on Kubuntu 12.04? |
10:58.58 | kamilnadeem | There is no such option in it as far as I have checked? |
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10:59.37 | kamilnadeem | Is the voice chat thing not working with KDE apps |
10:59.39 | kamilnadeem | ? |
11:00.50 | flami | Hi there. Is it normal that akonadi takes 1.5 gigabyte ram and then lets my poor laptop get stuck swapping like mad ( luckily I was quick on running swapoff ) ? It seems to be a recent issue that popped out of nowhere . |
11:01.20 | flami | also it seems to have lost configurations. the names of the imap and pop accounts vanished. |
11:01.56 | flami | sadly I cannot verify that as my laptop grinds to a halt as soon as akonadi starts. |
11:02.21 | flami | ... how can I trash its configs and start again ? |
11:02.29 | flami | Oh also its kde 4.8 |
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11:24.18 | jhuebner | how would you guys print/merge multiple PDFs into one single document? |
11:24.32 | jhuebner | preferably using kde tools, of course |
11:25.25 | FabianS | pdfjoin |
11:25.29 | FabianS | + okular |
11:26.01 | flami | I would guess okular is for printing then :P ( iirc the backend pdf library does not allw writing ) |
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11:32.45 | jhuebner | okay, i'll have a look at pdfjoin then, because that's the critical part |
11:33.20 | FabianS | Worked fine for me. |
11:33.34 | FabianS | There is also pdftk but that tool has the worst syntax ever. |
11:33.38 | FabianS | worse than tar and unrar |
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12:26.22 | judgen-weechat | Howdy |
12:26.30 | judgen-weechat | How do i disable the scrollbars in konsole? |
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12:37.36 | judgen-weechat | konsole --noscrollbar does not seem to work even though it is listed as an option on the manpage |
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12:38.02 | judgen-weechat | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/konsole.1.html |
12:38.38 | judgen-weechat | but that is an old version of kde i give you that |
12:39.05 | Adaptee | judgen-weechat: that was konsole in KDE3 |
12:39.07 | thiago | judgen-weechat: it's an option in the profile |
12:39.09 | jhuebner | pdfjoin did the trick, thanks fabians |
12:40.10 | judgen-weechat | ok i found it |
12:41.39 | judgen-weechat | thanks |
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12:46.29 | BluesKaj | Hey all |
12:46.38 | Phr33d0m | hey only you |
12:47.25 | BluesKaj | why just me? |
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13:07.25 | stittel | Hi! I am using KMail of KDE 4.8.2 and enabled "disconnected mode" for my IMAP account. I would have expected that KMail/Akonadi starts downloading all messages from the server so they are available for offline use, but that doesn't happen. What do I have to do to make it happen? |
13:08.22 | stittel | Or does it happen in the background without me noticing, because the KMail UI is silent about it? |
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13:24.21 | BluesKaj | stittel, do you mean "switch offline atKmail shutdown" ? |
13:25.42 | stittel | BluesKaj: No, I want my mails to be accessible without internet connection, i.e. the same as in KMail1 with the "disconnected IMAP" account type. |
13:26.36 | stittel | BluesKaj: In KMail2 for that I set the Akonadi resource to "disconnected mode", which should make it pull all Gigabytes of mail from the IMAP server to my local hard disk, except it doesn't. |
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13:27.34 | BluesKaj | stittel, ok , let me chack akonadi |
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13:29.40 | kamilnadeem | Hi KDE people have some question regarding KDE(not problems) so if some one would be kind enough to answer them, it would be great. :) |
13:30.29 | jozefk | how can we see the questions? |
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13:31.39 | Phr33d0m | we must pass a psychological evaluation test |
13:33.04 | kamilnadeem | Why is Kopete and Telepathy not supporting audio call |
13:33.26 | kamilnadeem | I have installed Pidgin on my 12.04 so it is not a big deal |
13:33.49 | kamilnadeem | but I mean the main KDE chat app is not supporting such a basic feature O.o |
13:34.41 | BluesKaj | stittel, I don't see any "disconnect mode" in any options |
13:35.32 | stittel | BluesKaj: It's in the "Advanced" tab, when you have an IMAP Akonadi resource. Second setting from the top. |
13:36.40 | stittel | BluesKaj: http://imagebin.org/209195 |
13:36.43 | BluesKaj | stittel, I just assume the emails are in the database at all times and when you're online it auto retrieves them |
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13:38.14 | stittel | BluesKaj: Well, it doesn't retrieve them. I mean, I have gigabytes of mail, but the mail directory doesn't increase in size. |
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13:43.55 | BluesKaj | stittel, , I jusst started using Kmail again after 3yrs . I dropped it after the change in kde4 made it too clunky for my taste, but it's become easier to set up lately.However I'm not totally familiar with it's options yet. |
13:45.27 | stittel | BluesKaj: Thanks anways. I also stop using KMail for some time and switched to Claws Mails after KMail2 appeared, but I am also not totally happy with Claws Mail. |
13:45.43 | BluesKaj | stittel, I see you don't have server side subscriptions unchecked |
13:46.12 | jozefk | I tried a lot of email clients and using webmail for long time already |
13:46.28 | BluesKaj | oops , you do have |
13:47.25 | stittel | BluesKaj: No, I don't, but disabling server side subscriptions should just mean that all IMAP folders are synchronized. |
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13:47.39 | BluesKaj | server side subscription retrieves emails from all the folders in the database from what I can see |
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13:49.47 | jozefk | Phr33d0m, lol :)) |
13:50.02 | stittel | BluesKaj: I deleted the IMAP account and now recreated it with "disconnected mode" enabled from the beginning. Given the slow speed I experience now, it might actually download something. |
13:52.56 | BluesKaj | it will show in progress bar in bottom right o the kmail client, stittel |
13:54.17 | stittel | BluesKaj: Yeah, except that the progress bar is broken. :) |
13:54.44 | stittel | BluesKaj: It goes to 100% and then (without changing the folder) goes to less than 100%. :) |
13:55.11 | thiago | yeah, it's downloading |
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13:58.20 | BluesKaj | stittel, it will take a while if you have a lot of emails ...nothing like stating the obvious :) |
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13:59.44 | stittel | BluesKaj: Yeah, at least it's doing something. Still I think it is a bug: If I start with an IMAP account without "disconnected mode" and then later enable "disconnected mode" it should sync the mails that are not available offline, however it doesn't. Meaning you have to have this option enabled right from account creation. |
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14:25.04 | turion | is there any documentation on the syntax of the custom shortcuts that emulate keyboard output? |
14:28.27 | turion | is there any way of redirecting the output of some executable there? |
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15:46.51 | stittel | KMail is funny. I am in offline mode and changed the "enable server-side subscription" option of the IMAP server. Now it's happily pulling in lots of mails, even though clearly in offline mode. |
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15:54.14 | BluesKaj | stittel, it's pulling them from previously retrieved emails stored in the database |
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15:54.47 | stittel | BluesKaj: The entire folder was unsubscribed before, nothing of it has been "previously retrieved". |
15:55.04 | stittel | BluesKaj: It clearly took them from the mail server (also noticable by the speed at which messages appeared). |
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15:56.27 | BluesKaj | stittel, , how do you know , the database is what kmail checks for email with akonadi , then when your timer or you "check mail" it applies them to the client |
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15:57.50 | stittel | BluesKaj: 1) add new account with disconnected mode, enable server-side subscriptions, server-side subscriptions don't include folder A. 2) Synchronize (folder A does not get synchronized, because it is not subscribed). 3) Go into offline mode. 4) disable server-side subscription. 5) folder A is now subscribed and gets synchronized from the mail server, even though we are in offline mode. |
15:58.44 | stittel | BluesKaj: Expected result: When in offline mode, the Akonadi backend should not even connect to the mail server and definitely not fetch. |
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16:01.28 | BluesKaj | then what good is akonadi? , why doesn't email go directly into the client inbox when "check mail" is invoked ? stittel |
16:02.17 | stittel | BluesKaj: I did not click on "check mail". |
16:02.45 | BluesKaj | maybe not but you timer does if it's set up to do so |
16:02.56 | BluesKaj | your |
16:04.04 | stittel | BluesKaj: Disabling the "server-side subscriptions" in the server settings causes Akonadi to synchronize the formerly missing folders, even though in offline mode. This is not related to some sort of timer. |
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16:04.57 | stittel | BluesKaj: The problem is this: Say I run in disconnected mode and want to have certain folders not sychnronized with full message bodies (just headers). Then I first need to see the folder, so I can change the folder settings for that folder. |
16:05.24 | stittel | BluesKaj: In order to see the folder, I have to make it appear! And at the moment I make it appear, it's already synchronizing message bodies, even though I explicitly told KMail to stay in offline mode. |
16:06.37 | stittel | BluesKaj: Well, it's a one-time issue... and I can spare the 600 MiB of unwanted download I just had. I am more concerned about my tray icons overlapping the digital clock, when the KMail tray icon changed from "no unread messaged" to "display number of unread messages". |
16:07.38 | BluesKaj | stittel, well, obviously you rely on these folders for your work , I relly haven't bothered with sync > I created particular folders for certain purposes , but it's strictly in a home use situation ...so I'm not dealing with a lot of email |
16:07.56 | stittel | BluesKaj: Honey, it's a bug! :) |
16:08.31 | stittel | Being a professional software developer myself, I value the effort that went into the KDE project and I value the attempts to abstract PIM resources like it is done with Akonadi, really. |
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16:09.39 | stittel | But I really wish project management would make the KDE developers stop implementing new features for half a year and instead concentrate on stabilizing/debugging bugs. |
16:10.40 | stittel | The last KDE release that I remember had no bugs that were annoying for me was 3.5.something. :-/ |
16:10.54 | BluesKaj | is still not an akonadi fan , looks upon it as a necessary server or enterprise or "on the job" use , just wish there was naoption to bypass it and use Kmail as a "normal" email client. |
16:11.25 | BluesKaj | or=for |
16:11.27 | stittel | BluesKaj: Akonadi is a good idea and the right way, IMO. |
16:11.44 | stittel | BluesKaj: Just Akonadi and/or KMail have not reached the necessary matureness to be pushed to end-users. |
16:11.49 | stittel | *maturity |
16:11.55 | BluesKaj | for your purposes yeah , but not mine :) |
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16:15.08 | thiago | stittel: that's a very subjective definition: annoying bugs |
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16:16.01 | stittel | thiago: Of course. :) How annoying a bug is mostly depends on how you use the system. |
16:16.18 | stittel | thiago: Probably there are a lot of bugs in KDE that I didn't even notice, but which are highly annoying for others. |
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16:17.52 | stittel | thiago: Some bugs are so "in your face" that I wonder, if anybody cannot notice them though. For instance the famous "KMail migration wizard", which kinda didn't seem to work for anybody who tried it. Or the "task bar entries wrongly go into alert status" (especially when dealing with windows unminimized from tray). |
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16:20.53 | stittel | thiago: I think the reason is that nobody is really exercising pressure when QA is bad. For instance, when I/we at my company break something and it passes QA and causes errors at our clients, then those clients will quickly respond demanding the error to be fixed. And if we break things too often or don't fix the stuff, our clients will escalate the issues to our superiors or ultimately cancel their contract with us. |
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17:25.46 | Occi | When the Skype-window gets a new message (act) it shows up in the task manager in my panel on desktop 2 aswell until it gets focused in desktop 1, then it disappears again. |
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17:53.43 | panset | After reboot I get a error dialog which says. "run command interface closed unexpectedly". what might be casuing this? |
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18:00.07 | BluesKaj | panset, dunno for sure , but run command is the krunner |
18:00.40 | panset | Isee, Alt+F2 is not working. |
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18:03.05 | panset | I get a whole bunch of errors when trying to start krunner manually, I guess I will file a bug or would pasting the output here help? |
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18:04.47 | panset | Known issue: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1087869 |
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18:48.28 | qqqqqqqqq9 | Hi, i'm looking for a pager with autoreload support (which does not need focus to function) Any suggestions? |
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18:51.28 | panset | is it possible to remap windows key with Alt + F2 (krunner)? |
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18:56.20 | panset | qqqqqqqqq9: something like "tail -f file.text"? |
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18:58.35 | qqqqqqqqq9 | panset: no, some like auto-reload in okular |
18:58.58 | panset | qqqqqqqqq9: there is a widget that autoreloads a text file |
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19:50.18 | mokush | Benderino: no, plasma theme |
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19:51.37 | Benderino | i guess you have to stick together both theme and window decorations, i recommend qtcurve |
19:51.42 | Benderino | highly configurable |
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