IRC log for #kde on 20120418

00:00.09ivraatiemslol, that's fine. I didn'tnotice
00:00.22ivraatiemsI usually use irssi from a VPS box of mine, but I fired up Quassel for this
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00:05.28ivraatiemsah, I like this very much.
00:05.40ivraatiemsis there a way to make the entire console area (as opposed to just the skin on the lower bit) translucent?
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00:06.18Sho_ivraatiems: yes, edit the terminal profile
00:06.31ivraatiemsah, found it
00:08.37ivraatiemsyou know what might be nice? dunno if you could actually do this or not - but having it transparent but also blurring the stuff in back would be cool
00:08.46ivraatiemswould give it a lovely glassy effect
00:09.36Sho_ivraatiems: that's possible (if your graphics card can do it you've likely already seen blur in some other parts of kde)
00:10.00ivraatiemsyes, I have - and my card definitely can. I've got a Radeon HD 6950
00:10.19ivraatiemsunfortunately I am using the proprietary drivers ATM. fglrx just doesn't know how to handle the newer cards.
00:11.00ivraatiemswait. is fglrx the proprietary?
00:11.15ivraatiemsyes. yes it is. I don't recall the name of the default one; I think it's just referred to as "radeon" or something.
00:12.27Sho_ivraatiems: actually, stick around for a momenmt
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00:14.09rickst29hi guys. The radeon driver you're thinking of might be 'Catalyst', yes?
00:18.03Sho_ivraatiems: install wmctrl or xwininfo real quick
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00:18.40ivraatiemsrickst29 I think you misunderstnad - catalyst=fglrx, it's the proprietary driver from ATI
00:18.45ivraatiems(now AMD I suppose)
00:18.59ivraatiemsradeon is the generic name given to the open-source equivalent, which is highly inferior for new cards.
00:19.19ivraatiemssho_ installed
00:19.36rickst29thanks for explaining!
00:19.50ivraatiemsNP
00:21.24Sho_ivraatiems: then run wmctrl -l and note down the window id (first column) of the yakuake window
00:21.38Sho_ivraatiems: then run xprop -f _KDE_NET_WM_BLUR_BEHIND_REGION 32c -set _KDE_NET_WM_BLUR_BEHIND_REGION 0 -id <id>
00:21.50ivraatiemsgot it (should be something like 0x07######)?
00:21.54Sho_yep
00:22.13Sho_assuming graphics wise it's all there, the above ought to give you blurryness
00:22.26ivraatiemsawesome! that did it
00:22.28ivraatiemswill it remember that?
00:22.35Sho_nope
00:22.37ivraatiems:(
00:22.48ivraatiemsI suppose I could write a shell script to run on startup
00:22.53ivraatiemsthat starts yakuake, gets the window id
00:22.56ivraatiemsand sets it
00:23.00Sho_yeah, and e.g. stick it in bashrc
00:23.14ivraatiems'preciate it tho
00:23.15Sho_or whatever shell gets spawned in yakuake
00:24.06Sho_now, there's reasons why a real implementation is a tad more complicated (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198175#c30 for a comment i wrote in case you care)
00:24.42Sho_but for your simple use case the workaround, well, works :)
00:25.44ivraatiemsI only understand roughly 20-30% of that comment XD
00:25.45ivraatiemsbut thanks :P
00:26.06Sho_:)
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00:40.16ivraatiemshey Sho_, what languages do you primarily use?
00:40.36Sho_ivraatiems: C++ and Python
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00:43.17viKtor__Sho_: are you still there dude?
00:43.55Sho_viKtor__: yep
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00:44.39viKtor__Sho_: how can i configure kwallet if first time i use my system i told it i didn't want to use it?
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01:59.49aaandersekio fish slave on different port is possible?
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02:00.55aaanderseah never mind... yeah it works :)
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02:17.56Sho_aaanderse: use sftp:// if you can
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03:59.22glisignoliQuestion: In KDE4. Is it possible to change where windows are positioned when maximized?
04:00.05Sho_no
04:00.48glisignolipoo
04:01.14Sho_that's the best answer i can give to a vague question anyway
04:02.46glisignoliWell, instead of maximizing to the full screen. Can I make maxamize ignore the top 50 pixels of the screen?
04:03.05Sho_ok, that's what i thought you had in mind
04:03.10glisignoliHeh
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04:03.26glisignoliso no?
04:03.41Sho_the answer is still no, though it'd probably take all of five minutes to write a tiny little app in $lang-with-xlib bindings that sets up a strut
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04:04.05glisignoliNope then, I don't really know how to do that. Thanks though
04:04.05Sho_it's also possible that the new kwin scripting api in 4.9 might allow it, dunno though
04:04.33glisignoliI've got a working solution for the moment. Close enough
04:04.38Sho_but there's no convenient, config-driven way to do it, at least
04:04.52glisignoliNo worries
04:05.16Sho_you could use an evil workaround like a tiny panel tucked away somewhere
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04:07.28glisignolihmmm
04:07.34glisignolithat might work
04:07.43glisignoliIn fact..
04:08.19glisignoliI'm willing to give that a try. How would I create a panel?
04:09.16Sho_unlock widgets, then right-click the desktop or the panel configuration button and click add panel
04:09.36Sho_then click the configure button of the new panel, and drag it to your  preferred screen edge and size it as you prefer
04:10.46glisignoliYeah. Not going to work I guess. I have a windows seamless rdp session running. Thanks though
04:11.33Sho_so you kind of want to make it ignore your windows taskbar?
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05:55.54zoran119is there a way to configure dolphin not to show permission errors when copying to ntfs permissions?
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06:18.11metelliusif you have two activities, and you switch, will kde brutally close the activities that do not belong to the former activity? or will it just hide/minimize them?
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11:18.43soa2iiHi!
11:19.06soa2iiCan you stop dolphin from accessing your cdrom drive almost with every click? I got KDE 4.8.1 on gentoo here.
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11:25.10silver_hookIn which file are the web search shortcuts  stored?
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11:45.46Phr33d0mQt was created by TrollTech
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12:19.58rdieter_worksoa2ii: issue is being tracked here, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261552
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12:36.34silver_hookOK, found it.
12:36.36silver_hookAre they still stored in ~/.kde/share/services/searchproviders
12:36.37silver_hookI got this info from a 2009 thread
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12:42.51rdieter_worksilver_hook: looks right, in particular location is: kde4-config --path services
12:43.01rdieter_workappend /searchproviders
12:44.17silver_hookrdieter_work: I didn't know about that command. Thanks :)
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13:12.38brljahi guys :) I have a problem with KDE systray. I've accidentally removed the taskbar (panel) and after I readded it the XChat icon from systray was gone
13:12.58brljaI can see that XChat process is still running, but there is no icon and I can't "show" its window
13:13.10brljais there any cmd like kde-show-window <pid>
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13:15.48TasserI've set the screen settings to contain my external monitor only, now I'm without, how can I reset that?
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15:25.30ox42how do I force the open of pdf apps by okular , I've updated  /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache
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15:26.00pinotreeuse system settings to change the preferred application for the application/pdf mime type?
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15:26.19ox42yes
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15:26.38ox42I've changed application/pdf=gimp.desktop;kde4-okularApplication_pdf.desktop;xpdf.desktop; but it is rewritten
15:26.58ox42gimp should not be the default for pdf (for my needs)
15:27.11pinotreerepeat: use system settings to change the preferred application for the application/pdf mime type
15:27.46pinotree"system settings" is the kde gui for editing various configurations of your account and your system, including mime types and their preferred applications and services
15:28.01pinotreeediting a cache file which is generated automatically is not... smart
15:28.08ox42I got that when you repetead (didn't understand you in the first time)
15:28.22ox42how would I do that for all users ?
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15:28.51pinotreethere's the way, but i don't remember it offhand now, sorry
15:30.18ox42in system settings file ass* gimp isn't defined as the first any other place ?
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15:33.02ox42should there be a a menu "prefered applications " ?
15:33.18ox42*preferred application
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15:36.29abveritasox42: system-settings > file association > search for pdf > make sure okular is the top app
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15:38.32ox42did , and this the problem it is
15:39.08ox42but when I double click on a pdf file via firefox download it is open via gimp
15:39.36pinotreedoesn't firefox have own preferences?
15:40.05ox42when you double click in "download" page it goes to DM options
15:40.44ox42* as far as I know
15:41.23ox42and okular is the default in FF
15:41.47rubentje1991and what about /usr/share/applications/default.list ?
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15:42.04ox42didn't knew about that
15:42.10rubentje1991that's not a cache file afaik
15:42.39rubentje1991and you have in the same directory a file mimeapps.list (in my distro although), but that one is smaller
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15:43.04rubentje1991I don't know if these files are rewritten each reboot..... - don't remember this atm
15:43.22rubentje1991but at least worth a try if there's no other suggestion from someone   ;-)
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16:10.29sjihsHi all, I am using kde 4.8.2 on Archlinux. krunner segfaults everytime i log in. Any workarounds/suggestions?
16:10.49sjihsalso starting krunner from a shell gives the same result
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16:21.41sjihsThe bug has already been reported https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298131
16:23.43rdieter_worksjihs: are you using one of the problematic plasma themes mentioned @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298131#c7 ?
16:24.36sjihsrdieter_work: I went through the bug report. I am actually using the default Air theme
16:25.03sjihsrdieter_work: Also changing to a different theme causes the whole plasma desktop to crash
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16:30.57sjihsrdieter_work: removing ~/.kde4/share/config makes the krunner work again. But i don't want to lose my settings
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16:40.14krishhi guys, kimagecache is part of which package?
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17:27.18dpI've got Kontact open, but can't seem to figure out where my address book is; when I try to start kaddressbook, nothing happens. how do I edit my address book from within kontact?
17:27.48brljahi guys :) I have a problem with KDE systray. I've accidentally removed the taskbar (panel) and after I readded it the XChat icon from systray was gone
17:27.52brljaI can see that XChat process is still running, but there is no icon and I can't "show" its window
17:27.56brljais there any cmd like kde-show-window <pid>
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17:34.20BluesKajdp dp , click on contacts
17:34.48dpjesus... how did I not see that?
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17:35.27dpsomething else; is there a way to make kmail show HTML messages from certain users by default, and the text version for everyone else?
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17:49.30brljadoes anybody know the answer?
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18:17.27brljaI never thought this is gonna be a "tough" question :)
18:17.47brljain Windows there is a utility Windose which allow you to do whatever you want with your windows
18:18.00brljaI thought KDE had at least something similar like that
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18:20.33brljaWinDowse*
18:21.40BluesKajdp, click settings>configure filters in kmail
18:23.05BluesKajbrlja, what happens if you click on the xchat icon in the system tray?
18:23.22brljathere is no icon in tray man :)
18:23.30brljathat's the whole point :)
18:24.59brljaI just need some tool, like the windows program WinDowse, which can show all created windows and modify each window's properties
18:25.05brljalike visibility, widht, height, ...
18:25.22BluesKajbrlja, close then open xchat again
18:25.33brljathat's not a solution, that's a workaround
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18:26.02brljaa bad one actually, because all the logs from yesterday will be lost
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18:26.32brljaisn't there a simple tool/cmd that can show/hide specific window in KD?
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18:28.50BluesKajhave you tried running xchat in the terminal
18:28.58BluesKajbrlja,^
18:29.07brljayes, it opens another instance
18:29.08BluesKajor in krunner
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22:34.28TiriliHey
22:34.56TiriliI want to use kmenuedit to create a new menu entry, which starts a bash script.
22:36.25TiriliIt works with Command = cd /path/to/script && sh script.sh
22:36.37TiriliBut then I can't see the echos.
22:36.51TiriliHow can I open it in a console?
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22:37.07Tirili"Run in terminal" only opens a terminal, but no output from the script can be seen.
22:38.05deeverTirili: what happens when you write 'read foobar' at last in the script?
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22:44.34TiriliThen I also cannot read it, because no terminal window pops up. :(
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23:06.16deeveris there a (working) way to create kb shortcuts for applications? e.g Meta+K for konqueror? no, with the menu editor it doesn't work...:(
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23:20.56cobhey, how do I make quassel connect to an IRC server? I've gone and fired up irssi instead. I just reinstalled my machine and went from ubuntu to kubuntu.... What gets me is that Quassel doesn't seem to want to connect
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23:44.34ar9switching knoqueror to webkit makes it stop showing pages
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23:46.51jeorgundeever: Does adding custom shortcuts from systemsettings->custom shortcuts (the `new' option is under the edit button for some reason) work?
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23:47.31jeorgun(between systemsettings and `custom shortcuts' should be `shortcuts and gestures. My bad)
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