IRC log for #kde on 20120408

00:00.01hoverbearAny i915 users in KDE 4.8 able to tell me if all the compositing works?
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00:03.29thiagoit works
00:03.42hoverbearthiago: You have an i915?
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00:04.38thiago00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:05.13hoverbearthiago: And desktop cube etc works all fine? In 4.6 and 4.7 I was having repeated crashes when trying to enable many effects
00:05.31thiagoI've never tried the desktop cube
00:05.38thiagobut transparency and other animations work
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00:07.01hoverbearthiago: Would you be willing to try enabling it?
00:07.57thiagono
00:08.07thiagois watching a movie
00:08.23thiagopresent windows works
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00:08.41hoverbearthiago: Alright thanks. :) If you get a chance later I'd be honored to be informed.
00:09.08thiagobtw, make sure you have very recent drivers
00:09.14thiagonothing over 6 months old
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00:11.19hoverbearthiago: Yup :) Last time I tried I was in Funtoo (Basically gentoo unstable versions) and kde 4.7.x and was having major issues on both my gpus with kde
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05:08.25froksenHi... I'm working on a small project and I need some help to find a KDE module/dialog/widget...  I what to be able to when a button is pressed then the standard KDE "application chooser dialog" popups (the dialog that is used to select default applications etc).  I have been googling but havent been able to find what it is called.. Any help here? Thanks :-)
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07:54.04[Moviuro]Hi all! I'm having some strange problem with Dolphin: Dolphin itself works great but as I launch it, I encounter some slow downs: eg as I launch dolphin from krunner or konsole, I get the icon bouncing at my cursor and Dolphin opens within 2 seconds (alright, it works). But if I ever click on the icon inside my panel, the computer seems to freeze (only the mouse is moving, ksysguard does not update anymore) and after 3 seconds of
07:54.04[Moviuro]freeze, it's back to normal, bouncing icon at cursor, dolphin opens within the next 2 seconds. Same freeze issue with my keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+Space). Anyone got a clue?
07:54.47[Moviuro](KDE 4.8.2, openSUSE 12.1)
07:57.32ashwin[Moviuro]:  is arrow key working?
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07:57.51[Moviuro]ashwin: ? In dolphin you mean?
07:58.01ashwin[Moviuro]: yes
07:58.31[Moviuro]so that I can hover an icon using the arrow?
07:58.47ashwinyes
07:58.57[Moviuro]like A b c d -> a B c d -> a b C d ?
07:59.02[Moviuro]yes, it works
07:59.29[Moviuro]Alt + arrows too
07:59.50[Moviuro]I'm using ext4 as FS
07:59.54ashwin[Moviuro]: what do you mean by freeze
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08:00.40[Moviuro](system wide; other FS is NTFS-3G, mounted at login, CPU use is below 10%)
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08:04.01ashwin[Moviuro]: does dolphin restart after freeze?
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08:04.54[Moviuro]09:54:32 [Moviuro]:  and after 3 seconds of freeze, it's back to normal, bouncing icon at cursor, dolphin opens within the next 2 seconds
08:05.18[Moviuro]so yes, dolphin eventually opens :)
08:05.53[Moviuro]the freeze is : mouse is moving slowly, ksysguard does not refresh the graphs or tables
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08:07.48[Moviuro]movies stop in VLC
08:08.56[Moviuro]music continues in amarok but colibri notifications do not disappear, plasma does not respond
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08:38.24[Moviuro]sorry, my internet connection failed
08:39.09[Moviuro]Was I asked some questions while offline?
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08:51.07AlfE_hello
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08:51.28AlfE_device notifier does not allow me to set automatic mount preferences
08:51.57AlfE_i am using 4.8.2
08:52.13AlfE_the apply button does nothing
08:52.19AlfE_i get this message in .xsession-erros
08:52.26AlfE_plasma-desktop(3255)/plasma StatusNotifierItemSource::refreshCallback: DBusMenu disabled for this application
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08:54.17AlfE_on what should i file a bug report as i can reproduce this on several machines
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09:03.48AlfE_not able to automount drives is quite a showstopper especially if you want to share drives
09:04.06AlfE_no reply?
09:05.48Sho_AlfE_: it's sunday and a holiday in many countries
09:06.34AlfE_ok will try it on tuesday again
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10:10.47roconnor_is there a way to stop KDE from poping up the device notifier everytime a windows users plugs in their laptop to the network with new shared folders?
10:12.39[Moviuro]roconnor_: right click on the arrow of miniature box
10:13.10[Moviuro]configure > unlock widgets > untick peripherals notifications
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10:13.49[Moviuro]they will still appear in Dolphin but wont pop up anymore
10:16.06[Moviuro]I get this issue with Wikipedia in french: In rekonq, I am told : ""Scripts should use an informative User-Agent string with contact information, or they may be IP-blocked without notice.
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10:17.05roconnor_[Moviuro]: what is the minature box?
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10:17.40[Moviuro]the box with tiny icons of amarok, Kmix, bluetooth & so on ;)
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10:20.02roconnor_[Moviuro]: ah I see what you are getting at.  This will disable all notifications, even when I plug in a USB key, no?
10:20.15[Moviuro]roconnor_: yes :-/
10:20.50[Moviuro]roconnor_: but what you can do is create a dashboard with specific widgets on it and put the peripherals notifications in it
10:20.58roconnor_[Moviuro]: how do I mount my USB key without the device notifier?  Can I do it in dolphin?
10:21.08[Moviuro]roconnor_: yes :)
10:21.21roconnor_okay, that isn't so terrible
10:22.01[Moviuro]take a look at here: bottom left http://wstaw.org/m/2012/04/08/plasma-desktopKA7067.png
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10:24.10roconnor_[Moviuro]: okay, I see the device notificer pop-up
10:24.36roconnor_oh
10:24.38[Moviuro]well, actually on my screenshot, it's not a pop up ;)
10:24.39roconnor_this is the dashboard
10:24.45roconnor_heh
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10:24.50roconnor_sorry, it took me a moment
10:24.56roconnor_that explains why it is so dark
10:25.01roconnor_and why there is weather
10:25.10mivulf#kde after init 0 opens all applications, which runned before init 0
10:25.17mivulfhow to turn off it?
10:25.28[Moviuro]roconnor_: gotta go
10:25.30[Moviuro]see ya!
10:25.31roconnor_[Moviuro]: this seems like a good idea
10:25.32roconnor_[Moviuro]: thanks
10:25.39[Moviuro]yw ;)
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10:32.42mivulfhow to turn off it?
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11:10.29tsw|2Well, after a while I'm very happy with my 4.8.1, good themes and qtcurve, etc. However, is there any good way to add som spice to it? Tried to fiddle with compiz in kde, but that was not my cup of tea..  suggestions?
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11:19.20[Moviuro]tsw_swe: Use Kwin instead?
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11:31.06aman_hey
11:31.10aman_anyone there ?
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11:32.06BluesKajHowdy folks
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11:50.59cRyptOnauTAny clue how to teach Krusader to show the actual full filenames, with file 'extensions' not hidden from the name
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11:59.18buntstiftcRyptOnauT: click on the header and remove the column for extensions
11:59.26buntstift(right click)
12:01.06cRyptOnauTOh right! That wasn't the Type column I thought it was
12:01.35cRyptOnauTThanks
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12:02.57buntstiftyou're welcome :)
12:03.11cRyptOnauTSomething I posted almost 2 days and 11 hours ago:
12:03.18cRyptOnauTWhat's the proper way to shut down lingering stuff like knotify4 and kdeinit4* of which a bunch remain after I shut down my KDE apps? Is there a setting that lets KDE apps know to clean up after they exit? Using a selection of KDE 4.8.2 apps without the full DE, Arch Linux, launching the apps mostly via fluxbox's fbrun promt/utility
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12:21.58unkn-errorhello!
12:22.22unkn-errorHow can I keymap a keyboard button?
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12:25.36rindolfunkn-error: to an action in KDE?
12:25.50rindolfunkn-error: or to type a different key?
12:26.06unkn-errorwhen I press print screen,
12:26.31unkn-errorto take the cplipboard data so I could paste it into gimp
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12:26.51rindolfunkn-error: clipboard?
12:27.02rindolfunkn-error: GIMP can already open the image in the clipboard.
12:27.16rindolfunkn-error: or do you mean you want to capture the screen?
12:27.41unkn-erroryes, I wish to take print screns / screenshots
12:28.22unkn-errorbut with the Print screen button from the keyboard, not with "kde star menu - graphics - KSnapshot "
12:29.03unkn-erroror at least, configure KSnapshot to take a print screen when I press " PRTSC / SYSRQ " keyboard button
12:30.23unkn-errorIf I press this key, and then Ctrl+v Gimp say's that "you have no data in your clipboard dear... :P"
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12:47.04cRyptOnauTunkn-error: not all OS distributions come with print screen key triggering a capture
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12:47.54unkn-errorcRyptOnauT: this is a kernel related setting?
12:48.19cRyptOnauTOS
12:49.28cRyptOnauTone way would be to trigger a script launching KSnapshot with the desired parameters
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13:07.05unkn-errordose kde have a virtual keyboard? what is the name of the app?
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13:10.28ashwin_unkn-error: Kvkbd
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13:11.38Kalidarnit's called Virtual Keyboard
13:12.03Kalidarnwhat ashwin_ said
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13:12.24Kalidarnunkn-error: its already preinstalled
13:12.26Kalidarnim pretty sure
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13:12.42unkn-errorcamed
13:13.18Kalidarntry typing kvkbd in your console
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13:14.59unkn-errori have installed the app, it work's thx! :)
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14:09.31fedeHow do I get the tabs on the top on the new dolphin?
14:09.44fedeI have kde 4.8.2 but that hasn't changed
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14:10.23LordBimbamhappy easter @all ;)
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14:12.32fedeI want it to look like this: http://getkde.org/begin_unix.html#no
14:12.56fedesorry: http://getkde.org/images/fullwindowcontrol.png
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14:13.07BluesKajhappy easter LordBimbam
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14:14.38LordBimbamfede: open the window menu and click "move window to group"
14:15.35fedeah, I see
14:15.37LordBimbamso you can merge multiple windows to one with tabs
14:15.46fedethanks LordBimbam
14:15.52LordBimbamno problem ;)
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17:36.23Basslinerhi there, i want to use alt-enter to maximize windows - how can i configure that?
17:36.42Basslineralso, i want to use ctrl-alt-t to open up a konsole window.
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17:37.26Basslinerany help? thank you.
17:38.18Sho_Bassliner: for the latter right-click the start menu button, click edit applications, navigate to konsole and set the shortcut on the advanced tab
17:39.05Sho_for the former system settings -> shortcuts and gestures -> global keyboard shortcuts -> kwin -> maximize window
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17:44.47BasslinerSho_: thaaaaank yoooooo
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18:15.42jtrucksis there a pastebot that goes with paste.kde.org (i.e. sticky-notes)?
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18:24.11JuanHappy easter to those celebrating it :>
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18:32.28BluesKajbbl...stuff to do
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18:37.36Leo145hi.can i set dolphin to don'
18:38.01Leo145hi.can i set dolphin to don't show backup files whit file.ext~ format
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18:48.01Leo145???
18:48.43JuanLeo145, I wouldn't know.
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18:52.44chemistrydioxideHi, I just updated a huge load of packages. Now my konqueror doesn't support http (!) anymore. Does someone know what I can do to fix that?
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18:53.00chemistrydioxidePlease don't tell me to google, I can't google without HTTP support.
18:54.46chemistrydioxideAnd the "file" protocol doesn't work either
18:55.04chemistrydioxideI think I messed something up
18:55.26montfrasLeo145: not possible, sorry
18:56.16montfraschemistrydioxide: have you tried logging out?
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18:57.11chemistrydioxideWhat I tried was launching new konqueror instances and that didn't work
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18:58.01montfraslogging out and back in can fix some problems after updates
18:58.23chemistrydioxideWhat shall I do if it doesn't work?
18:59.06montfraswe'll see about that later ;)
18:59.07chemistrydioxideI mean, if it doesn't work I might be screwed much more than now
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18:59.38chemistrydioxidewell, I'll try
18:59.55montfrasnormally nothing will get worse
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19:14.28Guest6822Hello! When I have that many windows that the task bar (with all its buttons, one for each window) has an empty slot (e.g. 2 rows but the last row is not filled) and when I click into that empty slot and drag it, the window button order changes wildly. Why is this the case?
19:15.29Basslineri have 2 konsole windows and a firefox and a setting manager running on the same virtual desktop. in one of the both konsole windows, alt-tab just shows the active konsole window so i can't switch to another application. any hint why? is this a bug?
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19:15.47chemistrydioxidemontfras: Thx for your help
19:15.48Basslinerthanks!
19:16.45G`Karhello... I'm having a problem with Kded4 which crashes immediately upon entering KDE in Fedora 16. Is there a way I can even start tracing this error to its source? It happens on all logins that try to use KDE, even a freshly created account.
19:18.17annmaG`Kar: new installation?
19:18.49annmalook in .xsession-errors
19:19.23G`Karannma: yes
19:20.09G`Karit says "Kded4: Fatal IO error: client killed" at the end
19:23.18G`KarI have a kcrash log that basically starts off with "segmentation fault" for kded4
19:24.06annmatry asking your distributon and see what canbe missing
19:24.53G`Karask my distribution? what do you mean? ask the Fedora website?
19:26.40ArGGu^^Is there way prevent password prompt in dolphing with sftp? I have setted remember password and it remembers it, but it shows the dialog still
19:28.21JuanArGGu^^, don't know, same happened to me, ended up using sshfs.
19:28.43ArGGu^^Juan ok
19:28.54JuanWorks faster and no temp file downloading.
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20:11.17ArmOrAttAkhow can i restore sort order in this app? i don't like dot files sorted as if there is no not.
20:11.29ArmOrAttAkis no dot.
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20:12.48ArmOrAttAkthe sort order is bad
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20:13.43BluesKajArmOrAttAk, in ~/.kde ?
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20:15.13ArmOrAttAki don't see anything in there relavent BluesKaj
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20:16.59ArmOrAttAk~/kde/share/config/kdeglobals:NaturalSorting=false ?
20:17.25BluesKajwhat are you referring to ?
20:17.26silver_hookAre there considerable changes between KDEPIM in 4.8.1 and 4.8.2?
20:17.41ArmOrAttAkdo i have to restart the desktop if i change that to true?
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20:20.42ArmOrAttAkchanged and nothing happened
20:21.02ArmOrAttAkcan i send a signal to kde telling it to reread conf fileS?
20:21.38ArmOrAttAkNo manual entry for kde
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20:23.26Sho_silver_hook: well, bugfixes
20:23.51silver_hookSho_: Anything major, esp. regarding KMail?
20:24.12Sho_sorry, don't know
20:24.57silver_hookI just upgraded 4.7.4 → 4.8.1 on Gentoo (now that the latter was tagged stable), but am not too happy about it.
20:25.15ArmOrAttAksorting the same was in a console shell so it must not be kde
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20:38.45silver_hookWould you guys suggest 4.8.2 over 4.8.1?
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20:39.27str3iberi prefer the latest stable version of programs
20:40.16str3iberbut updating can sometimes be risky if all works fine, maybe look at the changelog(s) to see if its worth to update
20:40.43str3ibersilver_hook, using gentoo?
20:40.59silver_hookstr3iber: Yup.
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20:41.45str3iberah then i dont know if you should use ~x86 ~amd64 or whatever but because in testing trees there can be problems and im a newbie...
20:42.17str3iberbut you could just update kde from testing tree, you need package masking or whatever for that
20:42.36str3iberjust look in the handbook if you don't already know how to do
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20:44.24silver_hookI know how, no worries.
20:44.36silver_hookJust wondering if upstream suggests ..2 over ..1
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21:00.40Sho_silver_hook: of course we do
21:01.04silver_hookThought so ;)
21:01.17Sho_fixed a bug in kmix for .2
21:01.19Sho_:)
21:01.20silver_hookalready started the emerge and hopes all will go well :P
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22:22.45onetHi, can i add private key on Dolphin to connect via ssh?
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22:29.14chemistrydioxideonet: What exactly do you want to do?
22:29.25chemistrydioxideDo you want to use SFTP from Dolphin?
22:29.36oneti want to add network directory
22:29.45onetover ssh with key
22:29.59onetBut there is no input for key
22:30.43thiagoadd it to ~/.ssh/config
22:30.49chemistrydioxideI think that what you need to do is to open a terminal window and ...
22:30.52chemistrydioxideyeah, right
22:31.16chemistrydioxideYou need to take the public key of your client computer and place it on the server
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22:31.28oneti already do this
22:31.45thiagoor if your ssh-agent offers it, you'll get the password prompt for the key anyway
22:31.52onetand it sworking over terminal (ssh hostalias)
22:32.13chemistrydioxidewell, then it should work from dolphin as well
22:32.23onetok, will try
22:32.33chemistrydioxidehowever, you may still have to enter your remote username manually
22:33.01chemistrydioxidee.g. sftp://username@example.com/home/username
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22:33.24atlasikhi can samone help me with divix online movies ( i have dragon player when i try to watch movie and its not working)
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23:03.52Hail_Spacecakefor some reason, my brightness control suddenly stopped working
23:04.01Hail_SpacecakeI think becasue I hit Fn+Brightness Up as KDE was loading
23:04.07Hail_Spacecakeand now it's stuck on really low brightness
23:04.24Hail_Spacecakeis there a way I can force the daemon or whatever that controls brightness to restart without restarting all of KDE?
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23:43.52Hail_Spacecakewhat daemon controls the kde screen brightness OSD?
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23:45.16thiagopowerdevil I think
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23:54.25rdieterHail_Spacecake: I believe it's a kded4 module (from powerdevil), but I have my doubts that killing or restarting it will make any difference.
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