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| 01:28.42 | PiklesOnFire | using f16 kde spin - my /var/log/messages is getting FLOODED with - "dbus-daemon[968]: ** (upowerd:1297): WARNING **: Property get or set does not have an interface string as first arg" any ideas? |
| 01:29.35 | TorpedoSkyline | PiklesOnFire: I would try #fedora |
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| 01:29.59 | PiklesOnFire | sorry, meant to post in fedora-kde, heh |
| 01:30.08 | TorpedoSkyline | PiklesOnFire: np. ;) |
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| 02:35.08 | Justice | um how do i disable desktop scroll when scrolling with my mouse? |
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| 04:34.22 | crshbndct | hey everyone was having a strange issue with my de was wondering if anyone here could help |
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| 04:34.55 | sythe | hey |
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| 08:45.18 | rly | I get a message: "There are 2 updates available." |
| 08:45.39 | rly | It doesn't say of what specifically nor how I can disable those obnoxious messages. |
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| 08:49.02 | thiago | that comes from your distribution |
| 08:49.06 | thiago | please talk to them |
| 08:51.25 | rly | thiago: how can I configure which messages it shows? |
| 08:51.41 | rly | thiago: I was in some window where I could configure it before. |
| 08:51.53 | thiago | which application is that? |
| 08:51.56 | rly | But now I am unable to get it back. |
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| 08:52.12 | rly | I don't know; it has an icon with an i. |
| 08:52.17 | rly | The i of 'Information'. |
| 08:52.30 | rly | It also 'informs' that some indexer started. |
| 08:52.32 | thiago | that's just the notification system |
| 08:52.37 | rly | Right |
| 08:52.42 | thiago | it's not the application that generated the message |
| 08:52.54 | rly | I couldn't care less about the notification system. |
| 08:52.59 | thiago | apparently you do |
| 08:53.07 | rly | I want my computer to work and not inform me of most things. |
| 08:53.18 | rly | I care in that I don't want to see it in my way. |
| 08:53.21 | thiago | ask in your distribution's channel |
| 08:53.29 | rly | Huh |
| 08:53.30 | thiago | I don't know which application they use for that |
| 08:53.44 | rly | Are you saying that it isn't a standard kde component? |
| 08:53.59 | thiago | it might be kpackagekit |
| 08:54.03 | thiago | but it might be something else too |
| 08:54.14 | rly | thiago: I am talking just about the i in the system tray. |
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| 08:54.28 | thiago | the (i) is the notification system |
| 08:54.35 | rly | thiago: yes, and I want to configure it. |
| 08:54.37 | thiago | but it doesn't generate messages, it just shows them |
| 08:54.48 | thiago | right-click it, Configure notifications |
| 08:55.01 | rly | thiago: it doesn't show that option. |
| 08:55.09 | thiago | what do you see? |
| 08:55.19 | rly | thiago: configure system tray |
| 08:55.25 | rly | thiago: panel options |
| 08:55.34 | rly | thiago: remove system tray |
| 08:55.38 | rly | thiago: that's it. |
| 08:55.51 | rly | thiago: the i icon is also in grey. |
| 08:55.52 | thiago | did you click on top of the (i) ? |
| 08:55.58 | thiago | yes, it's usually in grey |
| 08:56.01 | rly | thiago: I did |
| 08:56.13 | rly | I also have no physical disabilities of any kind. |
| 08:56.14 | thiago | the notification system is part of the system tray |
| 08:56.26 | thiago | but here I have a separate menu for it |
| 08:56.32 | rly | ok, I now got it. |
| 08:56.41 | thiago | wait, it's a separate plasmoid here |
| 08:56.48 | rly | That's some horrible UI going on here. |
| 08:56.58 | rly | This is not the latest and greatest. |
| 08:57.05 | rly | This is Debian Squeeze. |
| 08:57.11 | thiago | then upgrade |
| 08:57.23 | rly | Can I upgrade just KDE? |
| 08:57.31 | thiago | this is #kde |
| 08:57.43 | thiago | the answer is always yes, because you can download the source code and compile it yourself |
| 08:57.59 | rly | Ok, is there just one command to compile everything? |
| 08:58.12 | thiago | yes, kdesrc-build |
| 08:58.29 | rly | I.e. a git pull http://someserver.com/kde && ./configure --prefix=/opt && make install |
| 08:58.44 | pinotree | it would be helpful if you could provide screenshots, othen than "obnoxious messages", "horrible ui" and the like |
| 08:58.47 | thiago | note that KDE has non-KDE dependencies which aren't handled by it. You'll need to install those using your distro |
| 08:59.08 | rly | thiago: like? |
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| 08:59.16 | thiago | raptor2, virtuoso, etc. |
| 08:59.22 | thiago | rly: download the kdesrc-build script and the sample kdesrc-buildrc file |
| 08:59.23 | thiago | then run it |
| 08:59.40 | thiago | it will compile KDE and install in $HOME/kde |
| 08:59.52 | thiago | for me, that operation takes about 5-6 hours |
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| 09:06.20 | rly | Is there something which makes KDE resemble the OSX bottom menubar? |
| 09:08.08 | rly | thiago: also the whole (it is open-source => so you can build it) is a lie, because there is tons of stuff which cannot be build without a large time investment (because things simply don't work). It might be different for KDE (in which case GREAT), but this isn't something to be true in general. |
| 09:08.30 | thiago | that was not the point |
| 09:08.34 | thiago | the point is that you asked the #kde channel |
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| 09:08.52 | thiago | since we're distribution-agnostic, we can always build from source |
| 09:09.02 | thiago | if you want pre-built packages, you need to ask your distribution's channel |
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| 09:12.15 | arkascha | Using KDE-4.8 I experience problems with the predefined power profiles. |
| 09:12.24 | arkascha | Is there really no way any longer to define own profiles ? |
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| 09:13.01 | rly | thiago: even in that case; look at E17 :) |
| 09:13.21 | thiago | rly: what's the relevance? |
| 09:13.24 | rly | Perhaps KDE is much more professional. |
| 09:13.48 | rly | thiago: E17 has had the most difficult way to build it ever designed. |
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| 09:14.12 | thiago | heh |
| 09:14.18 | rly | You need to build like 30 components in exactly the right order and naturally you need to have the exact right versions of everything. |
| 09:14.18 | thiago | I guess it's easy for rasterman :-) |
| 09:14.29 | rly | Sure, he likely has a script to do it. |
| 09:14.36 | rly | So, he can say it is 'open-source'. |
| 09:14.44 | rly | Except, it cannot be build by a mortal. |
| 09:14.51 | thiago | I bet he knows it by heart. That man has an incredible memory. |
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| 09:14.58 | rly | (I did manage to make it build, btw) |
| 09:15.10 | rly | But I cheated and used some other (broken) script. |
| 09:15.34 | rly | The whole 'building software' thing is a retarded thing anyway. |
| 09:15.49 | rly | I hope we don't do it anymore in the future. |
| 09:16.18 | rly | There is just no need to do so and it only creates an artificial boundary between those that use software and those that develop it. |
| 09:16.28 | rly | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.02 | thiago | interpreted languages aren't that good yet |
| 09:17.09 | thiago | maybe in 10 or 15 years |
| 09:17.12 | KRF | arkascha: yeh, looks like you can't define own profiles anymore |
| 09:18.10 | arkascha | KRF: thanks, so I dont have to look for that any more. |
| 09:18.28 | arkascha | All press releases state: the new power management "adapts to the user's current activity" |
| 09:18.40 | arkascha | It doesnt seem to do so for me, at least not the way I want to. |
| 09:18.55 | arkascha | How is it meant to anyway, if I cannot tell it ? |
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| 09:19.17 | arkascha | This is already like Gnome: dont offer anything to the users, they are not able to use it. |
| 09:19.21 | rly | arkascha: it cuts open your brain when you don't watch. |
| 09:19.24 | arkascha | Now things dont work any more for me. Great. |
| 09:19.43 | KRF | arkascha: not sure, i'd be interested how it knows i'm in "presentation" mode :) |
| 09:19.48 | arkascha | rly: I dnt fear that, apparently it doesnt work anyway. |
| 09:20.00 | arkascha | KRF: exactly my problem. |
| 09:20.03 | thiago | check if the change isn't because of a change in the backend |
| 09:20.05 | rly | arkascha: perhaps all the KDE devs really just use MacOSX? |
| 09:20.12 | thiago | using upower, it might not be possible to set a power profile |
| 09:20.31 | rly | Perhaps Apple pays people to make KDE bad and perhaps MS pays people to make Gnome bad :) |
| 09:20.59 | rly | That's at least something I would do, if I wanted to marginalize Linux. |
| 09:21.26 | KRF | it's also pretty unclear what the option "Power management enabled" really does |
| 09:21.27 | KRF | at least to me |
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| 09:22.56 | rly | Does KDE still have a maintained browser? |
| 09:23.08 | rly | Konqueror seemed rather 'behind' last time I looked. |
| 09:23.26 | rly | My world view might be warped because of Debian. |
| 09:23.26 | KRF | rly: i think rekonq is more or less the de-facto standard |
| 09:23.31 | arkascha | rly: konqueror seems to gain again, it got better over the last two month. |
| 09:23.49 | rly | rekonq is just latest webkit? |
| 09:24.14 | arkascha | KRF: not in the usual press announcements, they still feature the combo of dolphin and konqueror. |
| 09:24.38 | KRF | interesting |
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| 09:28.49 | rly | thiago: Error updating automoc, removing from list of packages to build. |
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| 09:29.19 | pinotree | rly: just remove update-notifier-kde, if you don't want that "obnoxious message" |
| 09:29.40 | rly | pinotree: is there a time delay of 30 minutes present? |
| 09:29.47 | rly | pinotree: I did a long time ago already. |
| 09:29.56 | pinotree | it's still loaded? |
| 09:30.11 | rly | pinotree: I am now trying to build kde. |
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| 09:30.16 | pinotree | just for that? |
| 09:30.35 | rly | There are also a bunch of other things which kind of suck. |
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| 09:30.45 | rly | Likely someone has already complained about those things. |
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| 09:55.54 | rly | So... why doesn't the build script work? I even installed libwww-perl and checked my version of perl. |
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| 09:56.04 | rly | This is exactly what I pointed out before. |
| 09:56.30 | rly | (That 'open-source' code is not 'open-source' if it requires jumping through rings of fire to get it to work) |
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| 10:03.39 | rly | Same thing again from scratch: Error updating automoc, removing from list of packages to build. |
| 10:04.01 | rly | How can one build kde in a way that DOES work? |
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| 10:04.17 | pinotree | reading the logs of kdesrc-build, for example? |
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| 10:06.13 | rly | pinotree: fatal: destination path '/home/ron/src/kde/kdesupport/automoc' already exists and is not an empty directory. |
| 10:06.46 | rly | pinotree: this is nothing else but a failure of the build script. |
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| 10:07.05 | rly | pinotree: as it did not exist before |
| 10:07.25 | rly | So, whoever 'maintains' this script, please fix it and don't claim that it works until it does. |
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| 10:13.36 | rly | If you had some actual quality management, you would pull the script from the Internet the second it stops working. |
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| 10:14.08 | rly | It would just contain 'We kind of suck at making things work perfectly, back in a few days with a working version.' |
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| 10:32.43 | rly | It appears that it is a combination of some of the servers being extremely flaky and the scripts not being robust to such servers. |
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| 10:33.05 | rly | Example: doing git pull whatever results in 'up to date' vs could not contact server X. |
| 10:33.17 | rly | Within a time frame of 2 seconds. |
| 10:33.23 | rly | and... repeatedly. |
| 10:33.33 | rly | That's just awesome. |
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| 10:41.26 | VaterGarp | Is there an option to make Kvkbd show and hide using a key shortcut? |
| 10:41.54 | VaterGarp | Well, obviously, there isn't, but does anybody have an idea how to do that? |
| 10:42.14 | VaterGarp | It may sound odd but I would like to make it appear using a game controller |
| 10:44.42 | B-ZaR | VaterGarp: dbus |
| 10:45.42 | B-ZaR | create a shell script to show kvkbd using dbus, then bind the key to that script |
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| 10:46.43 | VaterGarp | Ok, I was hoping there was an easier way :) |
| 10:46.45 | VaterGarp | Thanks |
| 10:47.01 | B-ZaR | possibly not the easiest way, but first to pop to mind |
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| 10:55.32 | VaterGarp | Does not seem to be available via dbus either… |
| 10:55.39 | VaterGarp | Gonna have to use that little icon then |
| 10:56.19 | VaterGarp | Maybe that Plasma Active on-screen keyboard is an alternative |
| 10:56.45 | B-ZaR | oh |
| 10:56.59 | B-ZaR | my bad, I recalled it had a dbus interface |
| 10:58.11 | VaterGarp | Well, I didn't find it in the output of qdbus and using dbus-monitor, nothing showed up when toggling it visible/invisible using kvkbd's built-in 'visibility toggler' |
| 10:58.57 | VaterGarp | No, you're right, it should provide a dbus interface |
| 10:59.09 | VaterGarp | At least its page on kde-apps.org says so |
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| 11:03.35 | VaterGarp | And there it is in qdbusviewer, must have been blind |
| 11:03.38 | VaterGarp | Thanks again |
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| 11:47.18 | arkascha | In KDE-4.8 the "track mouse" effect appears to be broken for me. |
| 11:47.23 | arkascha | Can anyone confirm that ? |
| 11:47.39 | arkascha | The configuration dialog seems to be borked somehow too... |
| 11:48.22 | JackyAlcine | Same here. |
| 11:48.42 | arkascha | JackyAlcine: thanks. |
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| 11:48.52 | arkascha | Bug filing time again... |
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| 11:57.01 | Shinda | hi. |
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| 12:29.09 | rly | Which git repository am I supposed to use with the kdebuild script? |
| 12:29.21 | rly | It appears that the one in the script is completely misconfigured. |
| 12:29.28 | rly | (anongit.kde.org) |
| 12:30.11 | rly | Hello? |
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| 12:46.37 | Abhijit | hello. |
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| 12:47.25 | Abhijit | i can not find where is the SimpleWelcome project hosted. I need to report a bug. its plasma addon developed by Mandriva. But I am using it inside KDE with archlinux. help |
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| 12:50.13 | ilmenite | does kde have compiz's wobbly windows effect? |
| 12:50.59 | Abhijit | ilmenite, yes it has |
| 12:51.18 | Abhijit | Desktop Effects->All Effects-> type 'wo' in search bar |
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| 12:58.48 | ilmenite | lovely, ive just started compiling kde-meta |
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| 13:16.05 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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| 13:16.58 | Abhijit | hi |
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| 13:38.06 | petrik | how to instal KDE?? |
| 13:38.58 | Abhijit | petrik, in which distro? |
| 13:40.07 | petrik | 16 |
| 13:40.27 | Abhijit | fedora 16? |
| 13:40.33 | petrik | jj |
| 13:40.51 | Abhijit | petrik, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE |
| 13:41.30 | petrik | thanks |
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| 14:11.51 | leuhmanu | Hello |
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| 14:13.22 | leuhmanu | where is send the segfault from kcrash ? |
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| 14:16.56 | leuhmanu | I have found nothing at bugs.kde.org |
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| 14:29.53 | damnshock | hey guys, I'm having some troubles building kde with the kdesrc-build script |
| 14:29.56 | damnshock | http://paste.kde.org/425828/ |
| 14:30.06 | damnshock | it fails to detect soprano even though I compiled it successfully |
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| 14:30.58 | damnshock | sopranocmd 2.7.54 |
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| 14:50.31 | endri | hi everybody, i am on archlinux and when i try to run any kde app i get---> zsh: bus error okular |
| 14:50.35 | endri | any idea? |
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| 14:50.57 | pinotree | miscompiled kde? |
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| 14:55.09 | sandieg | huhu ^^ |
| 14:55.29 | sandieg | one thing i just installed the latest kde |
| 14:55.51 | sandieg | running an ati grafic card but no accelerator |
| 14:55.55 | sandieg | i love playing warsow |
| 14:55.57 | sandieg | so.. |
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| 14:59.33 | sandieg | what are sugestions |
| 14:59.38 | sandieg | (your) |
| 14:59.49 | sandieg | your's sugestion |
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| 15:14.33 | damnshock | endri: have you tried running from bash? |
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| 15:29.51 | endri | damnshock, it is the same. should thare be a difference? |
| 15:30.14 | damnshock | not really, but maybe there was something wrong with your zsh |
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| 15:30.35 | damnshock | endri: are you within kde when you lauch the app or in another DE/WM? |
| 15:31.01 | endri | no i am within xfce |
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| 15:33.00 | DrSlony | Hey, I want to store all my family contacts in a family group, how do I do that? |
| 15:34.24 | rindolf | DrSlony: with which application? |
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| 15:34.58 | DrSlony | I created a Family group, but i can't add any existing contacts to it - it seems that these groups contain a list of contacts that have nothing to do with existing contcts |
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| 15:35.47 | DrSlony | ie. if i create contact Foo, and then I "edit group" Family and add a "contact group member" called foo, this member has nothing to do with the other foo |
| 15:35.59 | DrSlony | rindolf Kontact of course |
| 15:36.31 | rindolf | DrSlony: ah, OK. |
| 15:37.21 | DrSlony | http://i.imgur.com/Q3gPP.png |
| 15:37.28 | rendydp | hi sir, can someone help me about my fedora |
| 15:37.43 | DrSlony | what I expected is that I create as any contacts as I wish, and then I can group them into one or more groups |
| 15:37.49 | rindolf | rendydp: with which problem? |
| 15:37.58 | DrSlony | rendydp 1- don't ask to ask, just ask, 2- this is #kde not #fedora |
| 15:38.19 | rendydp | okie sir, my problem is my KDE always crash.. idk how to fix it sir |
| 15:38.41 | rindolf | rendydp: does it also happen with a new UNIX user account? |
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| 15:39.04 | rendydp | wait sir, i translate your spoken.. |
| 15:40.06 | rendydp | yes sir,.. my KDE Crash if i login for 4 hours |
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| 15:40.47 | rendydp | now idk how to fix it.. i have find from other forum.. |
| 15:41.05 | rendydp | but noOne respone me about my problems sir |
| 15:43.19 | rindolf | rendydp: translate? |
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| 15:44.03 | rendydp | yes i from indonesian , and my english spoken bad sir. |
| 15:44.07 | DrSlony | rendydp "it crashes" is not helpful. Need much more info. What crashes? What version? What error message? Reproducible? |
| 15:45.25 | rendydp | okie sir.. where i can give you my screen shoot sir? because i new member and new user from Linux sir |
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| 15:49.03 | DrSlony | i had to create a new address book ("personal") for what i would call groups |
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| 15:50.27 | rendydp | :'( |
| 15:51.50 | damnshock | endri: have you tried launching them with "dbus-laucn whateverapp" |
| 15:51.53 | damnshock | or start kdeinit? |
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| 15:55.38 | endri | damnshock, same problem. what is really strange is that all kde apps ar doing this |
| 15:56.34 | damnshock | zsh: bus error okular <--- is that all you get? nothing else? |
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| 16:55.04 | TheSimkin | hey guys.. do you know whereyou setting the window snapping options? |
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| 16:55.19 | TheSimkin | it's driving me nuts i can't get close tot he top without windows maximizing |
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| 16:56.11 | starbuck1 | hello theskim |
| 16:56.35 | starbuck1 | its settings: workspace behaviour: screen egdes |
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| 16:57.16 | TheSimkin | ahhhh |
| 16:57.21 | starbuck1 | there you can turn it off... :) |
| 16:57.25 | TheSimkin | thanks. i looked everywhere but there |
| 16:57.26 | TheSimkin | it is all off now! |
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| 16:58.10 | starbuck1 | hope it helps now being better :) |
| 16:58.27 | TheSimkin | sure does |
| 16:58.50 | TheSimkin | one other question. with kdebugdialog |
| 16:59.05 | TheSimkin | i disabled everything..... but now i want to go back to defaults. is there a way to do that? |
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| 17:00.01 | dysoco | I'm a bit "newbie" to KDE4, do you have any websites with Tips in customization or how to have KDE to your like ? Any ideas ? |
| 17:00.30 | TheSimkin | dysoco: i'd spend 1/2 hour in "desktop effects" |
| 17:00.47 | TheSimkin | and also as i just learned, take a peak in workspace behaviour. |
| 17:00.57 | cb400f | yeah, just click around in systemsettings and the desktop a bit |
| 17:01.10 | dysoco | TheSimkin, I also did, but didn't liked most of the effects, I'll take a look at Workspace Behaviour |
| 17:01.18 | cb400f | that website would have to be friggin big to cover a fraction of the possibilities |
| 17:01.25 | TheSimkin | if you like advanced things you might want to check out the windows specific features too (so you can make it so a window of a certain class/app is restricted in size, always maximized, never maximized, etc.) |
| 17:01.45 | cb400f | this is a good guide for the most basic stuff: http://opensuse-guide.org/kde.php |
| 17:01.47 | TheSimkin | they are the things you rarely need, but are fantastic to know about. |
| 17:01.50 | cb400f | in all modesty ;-) |
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| 17:24.18 | the_gamer | hi folks, i updated to kde 4.8.00 and my panel keeps crashing. it worked fine with any older versions. is this a known issue/does anybody know how to fix it? |
| 17:24.34 | the_gamer | (keeps crashing=it crashes every few minutes) |
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| 17:29.08 | TheSimkin | the_gamer: hvaent' seen that.... does it crash and then come back up? or do you keep logging out/in? |
| 17:29.33 | the_gamer | it comes back up after a few seconds... but a few minutes later it crashes again |
| 17:29.56 | aseigo | the_gamer: you likely have a plasmoiod that was doing something unfortunate like linking to libtaskmanager (which they shouldn't) |
| 17:30.04 | TheSimkin | i'd suggest you delete your config file for the panel and start from scratch.... but i'm not sure which config file that would be. |
| 17:30.08 | aseigo | the_gamer: were you using an alternative tasks widget for isntance? |
| 17:30.23 | TheSimkin | maybe you can delete the panel and create a new one the_gamer? |
| 17:30.32 | the_gamer | aseigo, i don't think so, what could be a program like that? |
| 17:30.51 | the_gamer | TheSimkin, i can try that |
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| 17:31.39 | aseigo | the_gamer: move away ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop* (it's two files) |
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| 17:32.59 | aseigo | the_gamer: if that doesn't do it, then it is a bug in your distro's packages; and you can start the shell manually with `plasma-desktop` from krunner (alt+f2) or konsole |
| 17:33.03 | the_gamer | aseigo, i don't even have one file there |
| 17:33.13 | aseigo | ah.. let me generify that: |
| 17:33.31 | aseigo | `kde4-config --localprefix`/share/config/plasma-desktop* |
| 17:33.40 | aseigo | (might be ~/.kde4 for ex) |
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| 17:35.02 | the_gamer | BOTH panels crashed now... i didn't delete the old one before configuring the new one |
| 17:35.09 | the_gamer | so creating another one doesn't help |
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| 17:36.27 | the_gamer | aseigo, moved both |
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| 17:37.47 | TheSimkin | kde4-config is a neat tool.. never knew about it till now. thanks aseigo |
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| 17:39.24 | the_gamer | the panel just crashed again... |
| 17:39.35 | the_gamer | aseigo, do i have to relogin so that this works? |
| 17:40.06 | aseigo | no |
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| 17:40.33 | aseigo | are you getting a crash dialog? and if so, can you click on the backtrace tab to get one? and then paste it online somewhere? e.g. pastebin |
| 17:40.46 | aseigo | can take a quick look |
| 17:41.07 | the_gamer | aseigo, i got one the first time it crashed but not anymore |
| 17:41.25 | the_gamer | how can i get it again? |
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| 17:44.04 | the_gamer | or is the backtrace saved somewhere so i can paste it? |
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| 18:00.36 | Aelingil | Question about Plasmoidviewer: I am Running Archlinux w/ KDE 4.8.0 I have downloaded/installed an application and after compiling everything i get the following error: "plasmoidviewer: cannot connect to X server :0" Can anyone help me out or point me in the correct direction? |
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| 18:19.04 | the_gamer | just here to inform: i reboot seems to have done the trick |
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| 18:20.14 | the_gamer | it crashes again... when starting dolphin |
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| 18:21.03 | the_gamer | hm, i think starting dolphin was the procedure starting it the last time, too |
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| 18:37.33 | coolstar-pc | How do I set it so that my kdewallet is unlocked when I log in? I find it frustrating to enter my password again to just connect to WiFi |
| 18:37.47 | coolstar-pc | My Distro is Kubuntu 11.10 |
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| 18:38.10 | thiago | I don't think it can be done |
| 18:38.35 | thiago | but you can configure the wifi connection to be a system one, which will connect even without the wallet open |
| 18:39.50 | BluesKaj | coolstar-pc, isn't there an autoconnect option , which includes your pw in network manager? |
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| 18:42.57 | coolstar-pc | BluesKaj: My Wifi is encrypted with WPA2, so whenever I log into KDE, I have to open the network settings, click on the Wifi, and enter my user password |
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| 18:45.02 | BluesKaj | network manager settings should remember your settings for WPA-PSK etc , do you have them entered in NM? |
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| 18:45.12 | BluesKaj | coolstar-pc, ^ |
| 18:45.36 | coolstar-pc | BluesKaj: yes |
| 18:45.56 | coolstar-pc | BluesKaj: But when I click on the Wifi, it needs my kdewallet's password |
| 18:46.16 | BluesKaj | coolstar-pc, doy ou have more than one desktop installed ? |
| 18:46.35 | BluesKaj | do you |
| 18:46.54 | coolstar-pc | BluesKaj: I only have KDE on my Linux |
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| 18:50.44 | BluesKaj | hm, dunno why that's happening ..NM should retain your settings , unless you have new session in system settings >startuo & shautdown >session management>"start with an emptu session " , checked off |
| 18:51.08 | BluesKaj | emptu=empty |
| 18:51.15 | BluesKaj | BBL |
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| 18:54.36 | coolstar-pc | BluesKaj: Is this correct? http://images.inside-irc.net/image/snapshot-n1b0h5gjja.png |
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| 18:55.02 | coolstar-pc | BluesKaj: Except that I select the start with empty session |
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| 18:55.54 | coolstar-pc | BluesKaj: Here's after I changed the setting: http://images.inside-irc.net/uploaded?s&file=snapshot-13ebkp1nikw1.png |
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| 19:02.41 | DaZ | uhm, is that horizontal view in dolphin gone? >: |
| 19:03.09 | DaZ | oh, nvm :x |
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| 19:11.27 | BluesKaj | coolstar-pc, after network manager setup is finished , choose restore previous session and then in autostart choose add program , then internet and network manager , see if that works |
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| 19:14.15 | coolstar-pc | BluesKaj: I think network manager starts automatically, as I see the icon in the "system tray" when I log in |
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| 19:18.01 | BluesKaj | coolstar-pc, well the widget does , but it looks like the manager itself doesn't seem to |
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| 19:29.00 | eddyb | hi |
| 19:29.21 | eddyb | I've been looking for a version of the oxygen theme that I could incorporate into an web app I'm writing |
| 19:30.03 | eddyb | there are a few oxygen-related files in https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository but I couldn't find any icons |
| 19:30.35 | eddyb | I mean, the theme is there, where can I find the icons? |
| 19:31.07 | annma | icons are in svn |
| 19:31.15 | eddyb | annma: where? |
| 19:31.53 | annma | in kdesupport |
| 19:32.20 | annma | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons/ |
| 19:32.40 | eddyb | annma: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport |
| 19:32.46 | eddyb | I can't see it there |
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| 19:34.10 | eddyb | thanks anyway |
| 19:34.34 | eddyb | hmm, any idea if there are html/css version of the theme (or at least the icons)? |
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| 19:43.39 | Verge | eddyb: HTML+CSS does not support arbitrary shapes |
| 19:43.43 | Verge | That's what SVG is for |
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| 19:45.01 | eddyb | + some big PNG image with all the icons |
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| 19:45.11 | eddyb | or many smaller PNG images |
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| 19:46.31 | eddyb | I might just use the icons in the svg and try to get my own look for the rest of the app |
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| 19:47.32 | eddyb | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=117962 is a bit tempting to use, but I would need to do CSS digging in a firefox theme |
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| 19:48.43 | Verge | That doesn't make anything easier |
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| 19:49.05 | Verge | <div><img src="icon.png" alt="icon x"/></div> |
| 19:49.06 | Verge | not hard |
| 19:49.48 | eddyb | Verge: the icons aren't hard, the look might be |
| 19:50.06 | Verge | Well that |
| 19:50.32 | Verge | I don't like the idea of replicating someone else's work 1:1 |
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| 19:50.46 | Verge | It's not creative |
| 19:51.24 | eddyb | I'm not sure what to do... I hate getting a half-sane-looking app, I'm quite bad at doing it myself |
| 19:51.41 | eddyb | I also don't like to steal, I'd rather use a provided solution |
| 19:51.50 | Verge | The web is full of free skins for pretty much anything |
| 19:51.58 | Verge | JQuery UI for example |
| 19:52.39 | eddyb | I asked for a CSS version of the oxygen theme, you can see why |
| 19:53.15 | eddyb | I'll never manage to replicate a button by myself, without any technical details on how it's constructed :P |
| 19:53.33 | Verge | it's quite hard, I know |
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| 19:54.01 | Verge | Staring at a button in YouTube and then your own crappy button next to it and sighing |
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| 19:54.37 | eddyb | :) |
| 19:56.41 | eddyb | and being OCD/perfectionist doesn't help |
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| 19:59.14 | eddyb | all these details... I should really try to get something working instead of fooling around with the theme part |
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| 20:49.54 | rfay | Hi - Would anybody be willing to chat with me a bit about KDE's governance model? |
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| 21:51.47 | dysoco | anyone can suggest a nice Qt-Curve Theme ? KDE-Look seems to be down |
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| 22:07.02 | lancelot_of | hi there |
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| 22:07.50 | lancelot_of | i'm using dolphin in fluxbox but dolphin doesn't show anything, even the files are obviously present |
| 22:08.26 | lancelot_of | what's happening |
| 22:08.27 | lancelot_of | ? |
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| 22:14.35 | lancelot_of | anyone alive? |
| 22:14.51 | ChemBro | nope |
| 22:16.21 | dysoco | I am |
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| 22:17.39 | lancelot_of | no suggestion for me? |
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| 22:21.22 | dysoco | why do you want Dolphin ? Use a more lightweight File Manager |
| 22:22.43 | lancelot_of | i want dolphin but this doesn't matter. th problem is that now dolphin doesn't work.it has naver happened |
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| 22:32.11 | lancelot_of | does anyone have any idea about what's happening to my dolphin?is there any setting to hld on in kde in order to make dolphin working? |
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| 22:32.43 | dysoco | I have no idea... maybe you can ask in #fluxbox, or in a Fluxbox Channel |
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| 22:49.30 | lancelot_of | http://paste.debian.net/156974/ |
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| 23:12.23 | frojnd | Hi there. I'm looking for a note widget. I remember that there was this widget where you could take notes. It was yellow, but I can't remember it's name. What was it? |
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| 23:19.53 | feep | hi |
| 23:20.06 | feep | do you know any qt or gtk based editor that supports gimp's repl server mode? |
| 23:20.23 | feep | (qt preferred :p) |
| 23:20.31 | feep | I don't think kdevelop can do it .. |
| 23:21.09 | feep | there's no plugin for it afaics |
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| 23:33.27 | Kwarkje | Are there any plans to ditch khtml? |
| 23:34.14 | feep | nvm |
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| 23:54.12 | handheldCar | Kwarkje: apple forked khtml into webkit, and kde is now working with qtwebkit. rekonq doesn't use khtml, so I guess it's being ditched. |
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| 23:56.13 | Kwarkje | handheldCar: I know about that, that's why am asking, also telepthy-kde is using qtwebkit, what is khtml used for still? khelp? |
