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00:43.15 | gribouille | ~/.local/share/local-mail/ is empty. is it normal? |
00:43.16 | apt | gribouille: okay |
00:46.16 | dyrvere | gribouille: I guess, mine is :p |
00:47.32 | gribouille | dyrvere, what should it contain? |
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00:48.47 | dyrvere | gribouille: some software store e-mails there, it's a recommended folder by opendesktop standards IIRC. |
00:50.31 | dyrvere | if kmail stores your emails there, it would contain subfolders like /cur /new /tmp |
00:51.02 | gribouille | dyrvere, the subfolders exist, but are empty |
00:51.05 | dyrvere | but usually I find them in ~/.kde4/ no idea where they are now |
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02:16.43 | omnisigh | Hello |
02:16.54 | omnisigh | \away |
02:19.00 | omnisigh | Can anyone tell me why my cheese do show me a very sharp and pretty quality picture from my webcam ... but like my light is off in the room ! |
02:19.37 | omnisigh | I am a black silouhette on this ... did someone experienced that on one ASPIRE 7110 laptop ? |
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02:29.13 | cordell | might ask your distros channel. sorry i cant help. I dont have a webcam. |
02:30.21 | Gentoochild | omnisigh: do you have an effect enabled? |
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02:30.42 | Gentoochild | like edge detection |
02:30.52 | Gentoochild | (don't whether cheese has this, never used it) |
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02:34.34 | omnisigh | mmmhhhh ... edge detection ... can you develop this please! I am a bit lost |
02:39.59 | omnisigh | it sounds like you want me to work around the problem |
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03:57.16 | graft | okay, so if i want to browse to ~/Downloads, i hit alt-f2 and start typing ~/Dow at which point runner suggests the remainder in grey |
03:57.35 | graft | however, there is no way to actually complete the string (e.g. with TAB or enter) |
03:57.56 | graft | so, the suggestion just serves to taunt me: "Haha, I know where you want to go, but I'm going to make you type it out!" |
03:58.02 | graft | wtf |
03:59.57 | mglb | graft: try END key |
04:00.19 | graft | blech |
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04:10.16 | The_Ball | when opening konqueror strace show's it hanging 25 seconds on this syscall: sendmsg(7, {msg_name(0)=NULL, msg_iov(2)=[{"l\1\0\1@\0\0\0006\0\0\0o\0\0\0\1\1o\0\21\0\0\0/modules"..., 128}, {";\0\0\0http://www.google.com/search"..., 64}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, MSG_NOSIGNAL) = 192 |
04:11.01 | The_Ball | How can I find out what konqueror is signaling? |
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04:21.20 | omido | Konqueror is the best |
04:21.38 | omido | Thankyou guys for creating this awesome piece of software |
04:25.57 | DasKreech | :-) |
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04:27.36 | alban | Hi all |
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05:58.17 | Firefishe | What is the name of the plasmoid widget, similar to Folder View, that let's you see a list of folders, and an open button in the top part of the widget's menu? Quick Access or something? |
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06:18.39 | B-ZaR | Firefishe: quick access |
06:19.08 | Firefishe | Thanks B-ZaR. I found it. I'm using arch and it was eluding me for a bit. |
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06:19.18 | B-ZaR | Firefishe: great :) |
06:19.31 | Firefishe | yep! built right up nicely, and I'm using it now! ;) |
06:19.47 | Firefishe | it's my favorite plasmode |
06:19.50 | Firefishe | plasmoid even |
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07:44.36 | Hiryu | I have KDE 4.8 (kubuntu). My GTK applications strangely have black backgrounds now... how can I fix this? |
07:45.20 | Hiryu | I know I can't be the only one having this problem |
07:48.06 | thiago | are they using the Oxygen style? |
07:48.20 | Hiryu | presumably |
07:48.35 | Hiryu | that's the setting I have |
07:48.36 | thiago | yes or no? |
07:48.39 | Hiryu | it's a bit hard to tell right now |
07:48.42 | thiago | ok |
07:48.48 | thiago | when you're sure, come back |
07:48.53 | thiago | or are you saying you can't read? |
07:48.58 | thiago | (black on black) |
07:49.10 | Hiryu | I'm saying I can't read the black on black |
07:49.14 | thiago | oh |
07:49.18 | Hiryu | some of the buttons do come out white |
07:49.31 | thiago | check ~/.gtkrc-2.0* |
07:49.31 | Hiryu | but in the gtk appearance settings, oxygen is currently set |
07:49.33 | thiago | do any exist? |
07:49.36 | Hiryu | I've tried other themes |
07:49.39 | Hiryu | no luck |
07:49.43 | Hiryu | yes one file does, just a moment |
07:49.50 | Hiryu | .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 |
07:50.01 | Hiryu | says qtcurve |
07:50.02 | Hiryu | hmm |
07:50.29 | thiago | try unsetting GTK2_RC_FILES variables too |
07:50.31 | Hiryu | I was experimenting |
07:50.41 | Hiryu | I just put it back to oxygen |
07:51.01 | Hiryu | alright |
07:51.34 | Hiryu | can I unset it in a terminal and then try to start a GTK application in the same terminal? |
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07:52.10 | thiago | I think so |
07:52.21 | thiago | I don't know if GTK apps get their settings from somewhere else |
07:53.05 | Hiryu | there's /home/hiryu/.kde/share/config/gtkrc-2.0 |
07:53.08 | Hiryu | didn't know about this file |
07:53.15 | Hiryu | btw, the colors come out correct with 4.8 on my laptop |
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07:55.23 | Hiryu | so far I've only found one other person with this problem on google. They solved it by reinstalling oxyen for gtk |
07:55.26 | Hiryu | that doesn't solve it for me |
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08:10.21 | MaxHeadRoom | hello, anyone know of addons for kde 3.5 that let it have an interface similar to Unity (or Gnome 3 shell, kde plasma active, elementary os...) in other words a full screen launcher/task manager/ tab menu etc |
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08:30.04 | Hiryu | thiago: I noticed my laptop had unsupported updates checked, but my desktop didn't. I enabled that, logged out of KDE, logged back in and GTK apps look fine now. Before logging out, I also did an apt-get install --reinstall against my GTK engines (ie, gtk2-engines-oxygen). That may or may not have had anything to do with it |
08:31.31 | thiago | ok |
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08:34.21 | Hiryu | just in case anyone else comes in with kubuntu and kde 4.8 |
08:35.08 | thiago | I won't remember |
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08:46.31 | gnumdk | Hello, recipients completion with akonadi contacts seems broken in KDE 4.8 :-/ Is it working for you ? |
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10:20.17 | aseigo | Zaister: they had a release late 2010.. no idea if it is still actively maintained. i'd suggest checking their source repository and seeing if there is activity in it |
10:21.14 | Zaister | That's why I'm askin, the last commit was 13 months ago |
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10:37.26 | yecril71pl | Bug 279407 processed |
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10:41.12 | yecril71pl | http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kde-baseapps/dolphin/command-reference.html#commands-menubar |
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10:41.36 | yecril71pl | Documentation for command Create New is insufficient |
10:42.04 | pinotree | patches welcome |
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10:43.56 | yecril71pl | Bug 292570 Submitted |
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10:44.42 | pinotree | the items are dynamic |
10:45.08 | yecril71pl | Yes, I know, but the reader does not :-( |
10:45.37 | yecril71pl | so that statement is probably also missing. |
10:45.52 | pinotree | as above, "patches welcome" |
10:46.21 | pinotree | i'm sure you can be useful in helping with content other than pasting your bug numbers here, right? |
10:47.06 | yecril71pl | I am sure of that too, but the need to actually build things for patching is overwhelming |
10:47.38 | pinotree | pick the docbook, patch it, use meinproc4 to check it and generate html docs from it |
10:48.11 | yecril71pl | What is meinproc4? |
10:48.19 | pinotree | a cli tool |
10:48.30 | tosky | and docbook is xml, you just need a text editor to change it |
10:48.52 | tosky | I think that there are specialized docbook editors around, but I did not investigate |
10:48.55 | yecril71pl | Wow, that is actually something. |
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10:49.02 | yecril71pl | Good to know. |
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10:49.36 | pinotree | what about contacting the documentation team? |
10:49.55 | pinotree | these are things they could help you with... if you would have the will to ask them |
10:51.02 | yecril71pl | I hope I shall manage with that meinproc4 thing, but I will talk to them in case of problems, thanks |
10:51.16 | pinotree | s/in case of problems// |
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10:55.46 | yecril71pl | So I talked to #kde-docs, FYI they are indifferent |
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10:56.26 | pinotree | yecril71pl: the canonical way is the *mailing list* |
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10:58.51 | pinotree | (which is kde-doc-english) |
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10:59.07 | yecril71pl | Yeah, got it too |
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11:01.36 | yecril71pl | Well, I have got a circular dependency in bugs |
11:01.47 | yecril71pl | mailto: does not work |
11:02.03 | yecril71pl | URL shortcut with mailto: does not work |
11:02.18 | yecril71pl | Creating an URL shortcut is badly documented |
11:02.44 | yecril71pl | the shortcut to talk to kde-doc-english is a mailto shortcut |
11:02.50 | pinotree | ??? |
11:02.53 | yecril71pl | start over |
11:03.18 | pinotree | https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo |
11:03.22 | yecril71pl | <URL: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-doc-english > |
11:03.39 | yecril71pl | send email to kde-doc-english@kde.org. |
11:03.51 | pinotree | subcribe first? |
11:04.04 | yecril71pl | So I follow, and I get no recipient in composer |
11:04.05 | pinotree | copy&paste the url to your email client? |
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11:04.27 | yecril71pl | BTW, subscribing to mailing lists is a great way to get nothing done |
11:04.46 | pinotree | BS |
11:04.59 | pinotree | are you trying to invent new excuses or what? |
11:06.11 | yecril71pl | I am trying to write something something useful, instead of devoting my time to reading about unrelated things. |
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11:06.40 | pinotree | then stop making up excuses |
11:07.05 | thiago | subscribe and send your email |
11:07.08 | yecril71pl | That was not an excuse, BTW. |
11:07.10 | thiago | don't read unrelated email |
11:08.05 | yecril71pl | If the sole purpose of subscribing is to delete everything that comes, what good is subscribing? |
11:08.42 | tosky | yecril71pl: not everything, everything BUT the answers to your question |
11:09.06 | yecril71pl | Which is nearly everything |
11:09.11 | tosky | yecril71pl: moreover, from your discussion, I guess that you could contribute also in the future to other documentation changes |
11:10.08 | yecril71pl | That depends whether my first attempt turns out to make any sense. |
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11:19.34 | yecril71pl | projects.kde.org is very slow |
11:19.43 | yecril71pl | (if that is the way to get the current source) |
11:20.08 | pinotree | it's one, the other is quickgit.kde.org |
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11:22.47 | yecril71pl | But the documentation for dolphin is not in the tree |
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11:23.18 | pinotree | like in the 'doc' directory of the kde-baseapps repo? |
11:23.47 | yecril71pl | Well, I looked for it under dolphin |
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11:26.07 | yecril71pl | KDE offers to open the docbook with AbiWord |
11:26.20 | yecril71pl | This is bound to fail. |
11:26.54 | pinotree | kde offers abiword, because abiword registered itself as handler for docbook files |
11:26.56 | tosky | yecril71pl: it's abiword that is registered to open docbook, please complain with its developers if you think that it's wrong |
11:27.34 | yecril71pl | Well, I installed AbiWord because nothing in KDE offers to open docbook files. |
11:28.01 | yecril71pl | But AbiWord actually lies. |
11:28.03 | pinotree | any text editor? |
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11:28.28 | yecril71pl | I think KWrite would be quite good at docbook |
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11:28.38 | yecril71pl | but it does not register for it |
11:28.42 | pinotree | it does |
11:29.53 | tosky | yecril71pl: on my system, I can see the following handlers for .docbook: KWrite, Konqueror, Arora, winebrowser, Kate, notepad (the one from wine), Opera |
11:30.16 | tosky | check the file associations, I'm sure that they contains more entry for application/docbook+xml files |
11:31.46 | yecril71pl | So I can send docbook to KWrite from Dolphin but not from Firefox |
11:31.58 | yecril71pl | Probably a Firefox integration failure |
11:32.00 | tosky | send? |
11:32.25 | yecril71pl | Like when you open a file type Firefox cannot display |
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11:32.59 | pinotree | complain to the firefox people for not using xdg specs (properly), then? |
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11:33.48 | yecril71pl | Perhaps the assumption is that the default handler will do the right thing |
11:33.57 | yecril71pl | I need to change the default handler |
11:34.47 | yecril71pl | OK it worked |
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11:37.38 | yecril71pl | kio_help4(5146): File ' "https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-baseapps/repository/revisions/master/raw/doc/dolphin/index.docbook" ' does not exist. |
11:38.25 | tosky | works for me |
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11:39.05 | yecril71pl | Well it forks in Firefox, but not in meinproc4 |
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11:39.32 | pinotree | meinproc4 works on local files only |
11:39.50 | yecril71pl | Strange. How can it process external entities then? |
11:40.22 | tosky | it uses the copy on your system |
11:40.26 | yecril71pl | Perhaps it can’t, but this is strange because the whole XML publishing system is very Web-centric |
11:41.32 | yecril71pl | xsltproc has no problem with handling URL (other that being able to do it is actually undocumented) |
11:42.04 | tosky | yecril71pl: it uses the copy on your system |
11:42.32 | yecril71pl | No "en" localization of "writing-mode" exists. |
11:42.49 | yecril71pl | I knew it cannot be that easy :-( |
11:43.22 | pinotree | if a documentation is split in more than one single index.docbook file, you need to get all of them |
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11:43.55 | tosky | works for me! |
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11:44.11 | pinotree | (but you run meinproc4 always on the index.docbook) |
11:44.33 | tosky | yecril71pl: I saved the file that you linked, called meinproc4 index_dolphin.docbook, I have the html files |
11:45.20 | yecril71pl | And I have a hail of error messages. |
11:46.01 | tosky | so your system has some problem |
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11:46.39 | yecril71pl | so pinotree will interpret this fact as "inventing excuses" |
11:46.42 | yecril71pl | how nice |
11:47.09 | JackyAlcine | I'm loving KDE 4.8 :) |
11:47.18 | pinotree | no, but if you want help, please be more specific than a generic "i have a hail of error messages" |
11:47.19 | JackyAlcine | The new task manager plasmoids are fantastic! |
11:48.29 | tosky | yecril71pl: don't misread what is clearly written in IRC logs: the "excuse part" was about the subscription to mailing list - I'm talking about something different now |
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11:49.34 | kralyk | Hi. How does KDE4 detect file type and/or MIME? |
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11:49.54 | yecril71pl | The documentation for Dolphin is in one docbook file |
11:50.10 | yecril71pl | No "en" localization of "writing-mode" exists. |
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11:50.45 | tosky | yecril71pl: which kdelibs version? Self-compiled, or from packages? |
11:50.57 | yecril71pl | openSUSE 4.7.2 |
11:51.21 | tosky | opensuse version? |
11:51.25 | tosky | official packages? |
11:51.26 | yecril71pl | 12.1 |
11:51.32 | yecril71pl | official update |
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12:11.41 | yecril71pl | Bug 292579 Submitted |
12:12.11 | annma | yecril71pl: about the doc? |
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12:12.36 | yecril71pl | about mailto |
12:12.43 | annma | ah |
12:13.03 | annma | why do you tell your bug report number here? |
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12:13.33 | yecril71pl | Bug 292570 is about the doc |
12:14.02 | yecril71pl | Well, I hope someone would be interested |
12:14.14 | annma | this is a user support channel |
12:14.18 | yecril71pl | and maybe offer a workaround |
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12:14.25 | annma | tell this in #kde-bugs |
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12:17.59 | B-ZaR | I want to add a feature to the digital clock plasmoid |
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12:19.33 | annma | B-ZaR: you want to code it? |
12:19.37 | B-ZaR | yes |
12:19.57 | B-ZaR | just need to get the source after I get home |
12:20.21 | B-ZaR | any idea if it's QML yet or plain Qt? |
12:20.41 | annma | there are 2 components in Digital Clock |
12:20.48 | annma | a lib and the applet |
12:20.58 | annma | they are both in C++/Qt/KDE |
12:21.01 | B-ZaR | I want to add a vertical layout |
12:21.16 | annma | where? |
12:21.33 | annma | in the applet itself? |
12:21.33 | B-ZaR | I've done a QML plasmoid for that, but I'd rather include it in the digital clock plasmoid |
12:22.00 | B-ZaR | so that hours and minutes are shown on top of each other |
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12:22.11 | B-ZaR | better suited for vertical bars |
12:22.23 | B-ZaR | *panels |
12:22.45 | annma | hours and minutes in 2 separate lines? |
12:22.48 | B-ZaR | yes |
12:22.53 | annma | is taht readable? |
12:22.57 | annma | that |
12:23.04 | B-ZaR | I think so, have been using it for some time |
12:23.15 | B-ZaR | https://github.com/bzar/vertical-clock-plasmoid |
12:23.18 | annma | personally I won't like it |
12:23.32 | B-ZaR | I'm doing it for me :) |
12:23.38 | annma | why don't you submit your applet to kde-look.org? |
12:23.41 | annma | OK |
12:23.44 | B-ZaR | it's buggy |
12:23.48 | annma | you did not precise |
12:23.55 | B-ZaR | won't work right with variable size panels |
12:23.58 | B-ZaR | true |
12:24.23 | B-ZaR | I wouldn't mind if the digital clock version would make it upstream though |
12:24.32 | B-ZaR | as an option |
12:24.32 | annma | I think not |
12:24.39 | B-ZaR | not as default |
12:24.44 | annma | too many options are confusing |
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12:24.57 | annma | better have a separate applet |
12:25.01 | B-ZaR | true, but the current digital clock is horribly small for vertical panels |
12:25.01 | qwebirc71386 | hi |
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12:25.10 | annma | so your clock is better |
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12:25.19 | qwebirc71386 | where can i set the width of icontasks? |
12:25.25 | annma | the digital clock code is in kde-workspace/plasma/generic/applets/digital-clock/ |
12:25.29 | B-ZaR | it's laid out so the numbers can be bigger |
12:25.40 | B-ZaR | annma: thanks, I'll take a look after work |
12:26.02 | annma | when yo uhave something you can discuss it on plasma-devel mailing list |
12:26.13 | B-ZaR | roger |
12:26.20 | annma | have use cases ready |
12:26.25 | annma | ;) |
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12:26.58 | annma | qwebirc71386: I don't think icontasks is an applet shipped by KDE |
12:27.02 | qwebirc71386 | where can i set the width of icontasks? |
12:27.05 | annma | qwebirc71386: I don't think icontasks is an applet shipped by KDE |
12:27.16 | annma | ask your distro if they ship it as default |
12:27.22 | qwebirc71386 | with kde4.8 |
12:27.33 | qwebirc71386 | it's default |
12:27.33 | annma | no |
12:27.35 | annma | distro? |
12:27.47 | qwebirc71386 | archlinux |
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12:27.58 | annma | distributions change KDE |
12:28.49 | annma | ah sorry |
12:28.55 | annma | it is in kdeplasma-addons |
12:28.57 | qwebirc71386 | but in the kde announcement it said that icontasks is now default with kde4.8 |
12:29.01 | annma | yes sorry |
12:29.10 | annma | it's not default though |
12:29.11 | qwebirc71386 | np |
12:29.13 | annma | it's shipped |
12:29.25 | qwebirc71386 | it's an plasma-addon |
12:29.56 | annma | so you want to change the width? |
12:30.17 | qwebirc71386 | yes. i have 14 launchers there, but the width is to big |
12:30.27 | qwebirc71386 | i can't find where i can change this |
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12:30.52 | annma | is your applet in your panel? |
12:31.02 | qwebirc71386 | yes |
12:31.12 | qwebirc71386 | shouldn't it be there? |
12:31.23 | qwebirc71386 | or do i have to use a new panel? |
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12:31.53 | annma | no |
12:32.04 | annma | I am trying to figure out what the problem is |
12:32.17 | annma | mine takes the square size of icons |
12:32.20 | qwebirc71386 | fine thx |
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12:33.17 | yecril71pl | there is no mailto.protocol; is mailto handling built into krunner? |
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12:34.38 | annma | qwebirc71386: a screenshot would help assess your problem |
12:34.54 | qwebirc71386 | ok, wait a moment |
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12:38.02 | annma | I don't like the mouse over this applet |
12:38.06 | annma | it's terrible |
12:38.48 | yecril71pl | Are protocols a KDE thing or a FreeDesktop thing? |
12:41.30 | qwebirc71386 | annma: please have a look http://www.abload.de/img/kde_icontask1j3br4.png |
12:42.02 | yecril71pl | "protocol" is not a recognised desktop entry key |
12:42.42 | thiago | KDE thing |
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12:54.02 | qwebirc71386 | annma: did you have a look at the screenshot? |
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13:07.03 | larsivi | how can I make Akonadi not start at KDE startup? |
13:07.25 | thiago | don't run the application that requires akonadi |
13:07.42 | thiago | or turn off the plugin that requires akonadi inside that application, if it has that option |
13:09.11 | larsivi | thiago: I don't run any such program explicitly |
13:09.41 | thiago | well, either you do and you simply don't know that they need akonadi, or they are run implicitly by other means |
13:09.58 | thiago | check krunner, for example, or the alarm daemon |
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13:10.04 | thiago | maybe plasma's clock has a calendar integration |
13:10.04 | B-ZaR | do you have a clock on your desktop? |
13:10.17 | B-ZaR | took the words from my mouth |
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13:10.37 | yecril71pl | The interface between KRun and protocol configuration files is undocumented, is it? |
13:10.55 | thiago | yecril71pl: probably "documented in the source code" |
13:11.03 | larsivi | B-ZaR: I have the clock on kicker. I suppose the alarm deamon could be running |
13:11.45 | yecril71pl | Well, in that case I have to give up. |
13:12.58 | thiago | yecril71pl: what happens if you run kmailservice |
13:13.11 | thiago | kmailservice mailto:foo@bar.com |
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13:14.12 | yecril71pl | kmailservice works |
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13:14.44 | thiago | then it's probably inside kdelibs |
13:15.04 | yecril71pl | krunner says "run with kmail -caption %c" |
13:15.14 | BluesKaj | Hey all |
13:15.41 | yecril71pl | I hoped to find this little thing in a configuration file |
13:16.02 | yecril71pl | but I have no idea where to look |
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13:17.41 | annma | qwebirc71386: sorry I was on the phone |
13:17.45 | thiago | what happens if you click on that a link like that from rekonq or konqueror? |
13:17.48 | thiago | does it open correctly? |
13:17.50 | annma | qwebirc71386: try adding a spacer maybe |
13:18.02 | qwebirc71386 | how can i add a second panel? |
13:18.18 | annma | right click on the desktop -> Add panel |
13:18.49 | qwebirc71386 | found it |
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13:22.12 | yecril71pl | thiago: <URL: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285758#c2 > |
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13:23.21 | thiago | yecril71pl: does it happen with xdg-open? |
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13:25.36 | yecril71pl | xdg-open just runs kioclient exec |
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13:25.50 | yecril71pl | I checked kioclient exec |
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13:27.22 | ironfroggy | Does anyone else use the RTM plasma widget? it seems hang very often. |
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13:29.59 | annma | ironfroggy: hang how? |
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13:33.46 | ssureshot | I want devices to automount but I don't want the applet to ask me what to do with the automounted media.. how can I do this? |
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13:34.18 | ironfroggy | annma: it shows the refreshing animation and won't open. seems like it will only ever load once, work for a bit, but the first time it tries to refresh the list it hangs |
13:35.59 | annma | try running it in plasmoidviewer |
13:36.24 | annma | I had an account but I am not sure I remember it |
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13:42.54 | annma | ironfroggy: I can't even login!!! |
13:42.58 | chetnick | Upgraded to KDE 4.8, everything seems to be fine except the panel icons. They are huge. http://i.imgur.com/5dEuU.jpg |
13:43.06 | annma | even though I know my username and password |
13:43.40 | chetnick | annma: did you try logging in from VT? |
13:44.15 | annma | VT? |
13:44.36 | annma | chetnick: I am talking about RTM plasmoid |
13:45.36 | chetnick | annma: ah ... never mind then. |
13:46.39 | annma | ironfroggy: this applet is quite broken... |
13:46.46 | ironfroggy | annma: i'm noticing that :-/ |
13:46.59 | annma | I login, the dialog says so then the applet says login failed |
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13:47.23 | ironfroggy | annma: did you click the button at the bottom of the login page that opens, after logging in at the RTM website? |
13:47.27 | annma | I guess someone made this applet then disappeared... |
13:47.31 | annma | ironfroggy: yes |
13:47.52 | ironfroggy | annma: thanks for triyng to help confirm my report. you've confirmed, at least, that this widget isn't reliable. |
13:48.12 | annma | clicking 'login failed' does nothing |
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13:49.12 | annma | ah ah |
13:49.34 | annma | in fact I get 5 config dialogs that I am authenticated!!! |
13:49.39 | basti | Hi, where excatly does kmail2 store my mail ? |
13:49.41 | annma | they went below the rest |
13:50.09 | basti | first kmail2 did not start, now all mail seems to be gone !? |
13:50.54 | basti | can anyone point me to the folder where the mail is stored ? |
13:51.05 | annma | ironfroggy: the busy cursor keeps turning |
13:51.13 | basti | or is it stored inside a database instead of files like it used to ? |
13:51.37 | ironfroggy | annma: i'm giving up |
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13:52.04 | ironfroggy | i didnt like the widget itself so much anyway (sends all new tasks to the inbox, instead of the current list.. that's a little unintuitive) |
13:52.04 | annma | yeah |
13:52.16 | ironfroggy | maybe if i get annoyed enough i'll try my hand at widget makin' |
13:52.43 | annma | yeah |
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13:54.30 | annma | I try to fix small applets but I don't have time for this one |
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14:26.20 | yecril71pl | I think I was wrong assuming that protocol files are used to dispatch resources to applications. |
14:26.53 | yecril71pl | Applications are dispatched by media type, not by protocol. |
14:27.05 | yecril71pl | That is the theory. |
14:27.15 | yecril71pl | So what is the media type for mailto:? |
14:28.32 | thiago | that's a protocol |
14:28.36 | yecril71pl | And, given the above, how does it happen that http is displatched to Firefox, and the media type is not checked? |
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14:28.45 | thiago | it doesn't point to a file, so it has no media type |
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14:29.06 | yecril71pl | So it must be more complicated |
14:29.12 | thiago | yes |
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14:30.07 | yecril71pl | although you could say that it points to a resource of type message/rfc822 |
14:30.21 | thiago | not really... |
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14:30.28 | yecril71pl | Why? |
14:30.44 | thiago | a resource of that type exists. It's a mail. It's opened not in the kmail composer, but in the kmail message viewer. |
14:31.31 | yecril71pl | Well, it is KMail to decide. Sometimes it opens in composer. |
14:31.43 | yecril71pl | Like when opened from Drafts. |
14:32.21 | yecril71pl | (I also had an issue after migration in that KMail would open every message in composer) |
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14:56.53 | yecril71pl | I set the e-mail client to mailx '%t' but it did not change the behaviour of mailto |
14:57.07 | yecril71pl | still opens KMail |
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14:58.36 | n2diy | While running korganizer, when I mouse over an appointment, todo, etc, the info ballon is a black backround, with black text, how can I change one of the colors? |
14:58.57 | dyrvere | yecril71pl: No in-browser settings then? |
14:59.11 | yecril71pl | What in-browser settings? |
14:59.55 | dyrvere | n2diy: You change those settings in the systemsettings>Program Appereance>color settings I guess. |
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15:00.14 | yecril71pl | OTOH, switching the HTTP client to per-type changed Firefox to Konqueror for http. |
15:00.39 | n2diy | dyrvere, in only happens with korg, my desktop mouse overs are ok. |
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15:04.25 | dyrvere | n2diy: Sorry, can't help, my korg seem to not work at all today :S shows nothing in calendar view. |
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15:06.10 | dyrvere | wait scratch that, what type of event is it about when showing with a black background? All kinds or just one type? |
15:07.45 | desti_T2 | is updating from kde-4.7.3 to 4.8.0 safe without losing the settings? |
15:08.19 | dyrvere | n2diy: For me it only shows those with the same color I have set at top color for tooltips in color settings. Have a gander at that one. |
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15:09.43 | e01 | desti_T2: i was upgrading successful without settings losing |
15:10.23 | dyrvere | desti_T2: if kmail was already up to date in that version, it should be 100% safe, yes. |
15:10.28 | desti_T2 | ok, will give it a try too |
15:11.04 | desti_T2 | yes, i did transition from kmail 1 to 2 with the update to 4.7 |
15:11.27 | dyrvere | desti_T2: What settings were you worried about? |
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15:12.32 | desti_T2 | mostly the mail stuff, panels ect. could be recreated within some minutes, that's not a big deal |
15:14.31 | hroi | anyone runnig vmware? |
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15:43.25 | n2diy | dyrvere, I don't have a tooltips setting, I'm running Xubuntu 11.04. I've been through all of korg's menus, and /.kde looking for a way to change colors, but no joy.= |
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16:09.33 | |ntz| | hello |
16:11.37 | |ntz| | i have a weird issue .. my kde are not longer able to read a cpu statistics .. they see 0 processors althought everything looks fine and other programs work fine |
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16:15.16 | dyrvere | n2diy: Then what you do is go to kde-look.org and find a color scheme similar to your desktop theme and put the .colors file into /home/user/.kde4/share/apps/color-schemes and hope for the best. |
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16:16.02 | dyrvere | Sorry, I passed out after a whole week of welding :p sleepy. |
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16:22.13 | N9NU | http://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-active-two/ |
16:22.24 | N9NU | anyone know what that is.....the link on kde.org is missing |
16:23.16 | transylvania | Hi everybody, I experience something odd with akonadi (kde 4.6.5 debian sid): I notice a flat 2.6 Mbps network traffic between my workstation and my mysql server. Dumping it lead me to a lot of akonadi <=> mysql traffic every few minutes (without doing anything on the workstation). Is that normal ? |
16:23.31 | yecril71pl | dyrvere: my computer passed out for 90 min in DrKonqi for KHelpCenter |
16:23.48 | B-ZaR | N9NU: a desktop for tablets and such, based on KDE and Qt Quick |
16:23.58 | N9NU | ah ok....thank you |
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16:27.29 | Firefishe | I just installed kde 4.8.0 / arch linux. I notice I have no opacity control in my window menu. |
16:29.10 | dyrvere | yecril71pl: No idea what to say about that :p |
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16:33.40 | yecril71pl | Well, that was meant as a consolation |
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16:37.00 | AlbertoP | hello |
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16:39.43 | yecril71pl | Bug 292606 Submitted |
16:40.17 | AlbertoP | I have an issue with kmail2: it just lost all my email (pop3). Is there any hope it's still stored somewhere? |
16:40.34 | yecril71pl | in .kde4/apps/kmail |
16:40.49 | yecril71pl | and ask #kontact |
16:41.12 | Gentoochild | you can find it in your backup *scnr* |
16:41.13 | AlbertoP | ok thanks, but that directory does not exist |
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16:41.20 | AlbertoP | Gentoochild: that I know :) |
16:41.21 | Gentoochild | it's .kde4/share/apps/kmail/ |
16:41.40 | Gentoochild | (/share was missing) |
16:41.45 | AlbertoP | thank you |
16:41.46 | chrisgeorge | Hopefully a quick question. After upgrading to KDE 4.8, konsole no longer finds the running ssh-agent. Is there anyway to fix this? |
16:42.37 | AlbertoP | ugh, it's gone for good... that dir has only one file with 3 lines :\ |
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16:42.48 | Gentoochild | oO |
16:43.14 | AlbertoP | a dir called "autosave" and a text file called "lock |
16:43.14 | Gentoochild | there was a report on the Gentoo user mailing list of someone losing his stuff. but AFAIR that happened when he tried to move mail around |
16:43.40 | AlbertoP | not my case, I just shut kontact off, and when I re-opened it, nothing :( |
16:43.40 | Gentoochild | what about share/apps/kmail2? |
16:44.02 | AlbertoP | that's where I am looking at, I do not have "kmail", just "kmail2" |
16:44.03 | yecril71pl | Also, did you run migration? |
16:44.22 | AlbertoP | yecril71pl: yes, when I updated openSUSE from 11.4 to 12.1 |
16:44.27 | Gentoochild | I have both folders, I always suspected that I still have the kmail folder because that folder originates from KDE3 |
16:44.42 | yecril71pl | Did migration succeed? |
16:45.10 | AlbertoP | yes, I imported the mail folder rather than relying on the automatic import |
16:45.24 | AlbertoP | stuff worked fairly well for nearly two months |
16:45.39 | yecril71pl | Where did you import it to? |
16:45.44 | AlbertoP | hmm |
16:45.59 | AlbertoP | let me try to remember :-? |
16:46.00 | Zenguy_pc | can someone walk me through compiling a branch of gwenview? |
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16:47.45 | AlbertoP | this is weird |
16:47.55 | yecril71pl | Zenguy_pc: #kde-devel |
16:48.18 | AlbertoP | I restarted kontact, and it gave me a "restore session" message. Now I can see email, but it did not do this before. |
16:48.28 | AlbertoP | Is there a way I can backup all mail btw? |
16:48.54 | yecril71pl | Just back all your data up. |
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16:49.36 | AlbertoP | yeah I do that, but I was wondering if there is a way to export email to a tar for example... it's not that fun to look for the many folders KDE uses ;-) |
16:49.37 | yecril71pl | (your provider should back up your IMAP mail themselves) |
16:50.09 | yecril71pl | Now you know where it is, so what is the problem? |
16:50.13 | Zenguy_pc | yecril71pl: thanks |
16:50.15 | yecril71pl | It is in ONE folder. |
16:50.48 | AlbertoP | yes, and it would be one option too...in a menu :) |
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16:52.21 | yecril71pl | The theory behind not having such an option is that you normally want to back up more than just e-mail |
16:52.37 | yecril71pl | so having such an option would be a distraction |
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16:55.44 | benkevan | how can I move my panel to the left side of my screen? |
16:56.03 | yecril71pl | Unlock it and move it. |
16:56.28 | benkevan | yecril71pl: it it keeps just moving the widgets |
16:57.29 | AlbertoP | yecril71pl: well yes, but given that now kontact uses a database and quite a complicated infrastructure, I think it would be a good idea to have a single place where you click and get a backup/restore functionality... that's just an idea, of course :) |
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16:57.43 | benkevan | oh, I think i have to click on the screenedge haha |
16:58.01 | benkevan | have to wait for kde to become responsive again.. oh.. ok there it goes. |
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16:58.24 | benkevan | sweet.. thanks.. a fea things aren't readable (i.e., date / time).. but I'll move that to a widget and be happy |
16:58.32 | yecril71pl | I have no idea why backup/restore should be specific to Kontact or Akonadi. |
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16:59.09 | yecril71pl | If you back up your data, you back up both, and other things too. |
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16:59.40 | benkevan | hummm.. any way to increase the size of the date |
17:00.00 | yecril71pl | Make the panel wider? |
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17:01.33 | benkevan | yecril71pl: i'm talking about a widget on the desktop not in the panel.. proportion wise it's a bit off. |
17:02.27 | yecril71pl | When you select the widget, there is a side bar with operators |
17:02.33 | yecril71pl | One of them resizes IIRC |
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17:25.23 | quup | hi, I'm new to kde and must have messed up some config, when I open a link through konsole I get two tabs in firefox. In Default Applications -> Web Browser I have open in the following browser: firefox -new-tab %u |
17:26.17 | yecril71pl | I have just firefox there |
17:26.50 | quup | maybe %u is appended automatically then |
17:27.07 | quup | that was it |
17:27.13 | quup | now it works like it should |
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17:49.07 | n2diy | dyrvere, .kde4!? I was looking in .kde! ah ha, thanks. |
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17:50.23 | n2diy | dyrvere, .kde4!? I was looking in .kde! ah ha, thanks. |
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17:51.44 | n2diy | dyrvere, .kde4 is in the .kde directory, and the only thing there is /services/netscape_plupin_viewer? |
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17:54.44 | ykm | i have done a kde 4.7.4 installation on arch linux.....facing problems |
17:54.46 | ykm | http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w450/ykm29/2012-01-27-230656_1024x768_scrot.png |
17:54.51 | ykm | any idea? |
17:56.32 | triune | was gonna ask... "file X was opened and contained too long lines (more than 1,024 characters). Too long lines were wrapped and the document is set to read-only mode, as saving will modify its content." |
17:56.51 | triune | but it seems like Kate in 4.8 allows you to set the maximum line size |
17:57.00 | triune | up to 1,000,000 characters |
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17:57.41 | triune | don't need more than that now, but could see it being a problem for some xml files with base64 encoded data in the future |
17:57.47 | triune | any plans to up this limit? |
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18:19.12 | meph84 | question: I have set up a custom panel on the upper edge of my screen. I want it to always stay under any maximized windows, so I would only see it when everything is minimized and I'm looking at desktop. But whenever I hit upper edge with my mouse pointer, the panel pops up. I want it to stay hidden. Any way to do that? |
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18:25.53 | Gentoochild | meph84: hm... I just tried through the options, but my bottom panel doesn't even hide behind a window right now :-/ |
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18:29.13 | meph84 | Gentoochild: all I found is the option to allow other windows to be on top of the panel, and it works quite nicely... except for that annoying popup :/ can't get rid of it |
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18:29.42 | Gentoochild | hm... if you use it for starters, you could try a quicklaunch applet on the desktop |
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18:32.36 | meph84 | I use keyboard shortcuts for almost everything, so unfortunately no... I want to have some random widgets there, but you just gave me an idea to put them directly on desktop :) perhaps they don't need to be on a panel at all |
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18:49.23 | Zaister | Hm, knotify4 is hogging my CPU at 85% Why is that? |
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18:54.06 | yecril71pl | grave bugs and common pitfalls: none known |
18:54.19 | yecril71pl | <URL: http://www.kde.org/info/4.7.4.php > |
18:54.24 | yecril71pl | how sweet |
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19:03.34 | timmyt | girls, what's this theme? http://opendesktop.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/147844-1.png |
19:04.13 | graft | fugly |
19:04.31 | timmyt | fugly? |
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19:15.24 | graft | wow 4.8 is out? |
19:16.30 | yecril71pl | <URL: http://techbase.kde.org/Talk:Policies/Licensing_Policy#GFDL_1.2_is_listed_twice_72 > |
19:16.37 | yecril71pl | Anybody competent to answer? |
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19:20.01 | transylvania | anyone for my akonadi mysql network traffic ? should I repost ? |
19:20.36 | whilo | i like activities a lot, but systray apps always bork them. launching an app on some activity and minimizing it to the systray will always switch back to this activity, which is not what i expect from a systray app (otherwise it shouldn't show up on this activity imo) |
19:20.37 | timmyt | i have downloaded a theme (its name is onion). in the downloaded file there are only one .colors file and a .qtcurve file. how to use this thing? |
19:21.15 | quebre | from where i can get additional fonts for KDE, so i can have larger choice of fonts when selecting it for console ? |
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19:21.20 | quebre | the default choice is very tiny.. |
19:21.31 | whilo | i know that systray is legacy, but i cannot customize the panel launchers for different activities to mimic something similiar |
19:21.36 | Torch | quebre: KDE does not ship fonts. ask your distro (hint: use any truetype font) |
19:21.51 | quebre | Torch: but where i load them so KDe can see it ? |
19:22.32 | Torch | quebre: your system settings might have a font management module under system administration |
19:22.41 | Torch | quebre: if it does not ask your distro ;-) |
19:22.47 | quebre | Torch: ok thanks |
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19:25.18 | quebre | Torch: i launched Font Installer from KDE, it show me really many fonts.. so why the Konsole doesn't see them all ? |
19:25.35 | Torch | quebre: konsole probably only offers fixed-spaced fonts |
19:25.48 | Torch | quebre: while the font management module shows proportional ones too |
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19:30.20 | whilo | cannot configure kwin for systray apps to automatically show them on all activities |
19:30.38 | whilo | how do you handle that? no systray at all when using activities? |
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19:35.17 | BluesKaj | whilo, add system tray in add widgets |
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19:38.29 | whilo | BluesKaj: i mean the problem i mentioned before, that apps minimized to systray are bound to an activity, so when i click them on a different activity i switch back |
19:38.36 | whilo | to the initial activity |
19:38.42 | whilo | this is not what i expect |
19:38.57 | whilo | i would like to have systray apps on all activities by default |
19:39.06 | whilo | kwin does not offer rules for it either |
19:39.14 | whilo | i can't be the only one being bothered by that |
19:39.38 | mgraesslin | minimizing apps to systray is broken by design. Just don't do that |
19:39.39 | BluesKaj | ok whilo sorry i misunderstood ...not an actitvities user |
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19:40.56 | Gentoochild | timmyt: that theme file obviously is a qtcurve theme |
19:41.10 | Gentoochild | qtcurve itself is a theme for Qt which you must install. |
19:41.30 | Gentoochild | (I've been using it myself since KDE3 times) |
19:41.46 | timmyt | Gentoochild, well, how? idk how to do this |
19:41.55 | Gentoochild | what distro are you using? |
19:42.53 | timmyt | Gentoochild, debian stable |
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19:43.10 | whilo | mgraesslin: i know, i would prefer to have the smart launcher (which is hidden when the app is launched) on each activity with the apps i need |
19:43.24 | whilo | mgraesslin: but anyway writing a rule to move apps to an activity would be nice imo |
19:43.29 | Gentoochild | ok, then fire up synaptic (or whatever program you use to install new packages), and install qtcurve. |
19:43.36 | Gentoochild | wait a second, I'll start my virtual debiam |
19:43.38 | Gentoochild | n |
19:43.49 | timmyt | Gentoochild, allright |
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19:45.21 | Gentoochild | well, my virtual debian is Lenny, so the package may have a different name. anyhoo... look for qtcurve-qt or simply qtcurve |
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19:45.37 | quup | with ktorrent I get "Error: Could not connect to host localhost" but the tracker does resolve using 'host' |
19:45.40 | Gentoochild | (methinks there was also a qtcurve-gtk) |
19:46.01 | timmyt | that's qtcurve Gentoochild |
19:46.03 | Gentoochild | ok |
19:46.11 | Gentoochild | so once you have installed it, go to system settings |
19:46.14 | whilo | mgraesslin: can you seperate irc, kontact and amarok for each activity yet? atm. they are shared with all activities for me |
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19:46.30 | mgraesslin | whilo: I don't use activities |
19:46.35 | timmyt | ok,n then? |
19:46.42 | whilo | mgraesslin: huuh, weird |
19:46.54 | whilo | aren't you involved in plasma active as well? |
19:46.58 | Gentoochild | timmyt: → general appearance, appearance of applications → style (or "theme"? I'm on a German localisation). |
19:47.17 | Gentoochild | and there you can select your widget style, which is Oxygen by default. |
19:47.50 | mgraesslin | whilo: yes, but I hardly use the tablet and on the desktop I don't use activities |
19:47.53 | Gentoochild | change that to qtcurve and click on the configure button next to it. In the opening dialogue, you should be able to import that theme you were asking about. |
19:47.55 | timmyt | alright |
19:48.38 | Gentoochild | I guess the colour file is for the colour theme part of system settings, so they are two separate files which go together. |
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19:48.47 | BluesKaj | QtCurve is ok so far , just started using it |
19:48.48 | whilo | mgraesslin: this is sad, they are really handy, the concept is just not 100% integrated |
19:49.03 | Gentoochild | though it has some colour options for tinting effects, qtcurve itself has no colour options as such |
19:49.04 | timmyt | Gentoochild, yeah |
19:49.54 | Gentoochild | BluesKaj: I've never used anything else. Oxygen is OK in some parts, but annoying in others. I set qtcurve to a totally square and flat appearance, looks very old school :) |
19:50.25 | Gentoochild | (except for the slanted, animated stripes in progress bars) |
19:50.29 | BluesKaj | Gentoochild, got a srnsot ? |
19:50.39 | Gentoochild | hm... |
19:51.00 | BluesKaj | just curious , Gentoochild |
19:51.04 | Gentoochild | np |
19:51.09 | Gentoochild | need to make one quick |
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19:51.19 | BluesKaj | no hurry |
19:51.44 | Gentoochild | yes hurry, I want to go to a friend's :) |
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19:52.32 | Gentoochild | grrr every time I want to upload an image I search for a hoster from scratch |
19:52.43 | BluesKaj | imagebin |
19:52.49 | Gentoochild | .ca? |
19:53.01 | Gentoochild | was myfirst try, but didn't load |
19:53.27 | Gentoochild | aaah org |
19:53.44 | BluesKaj | yeah |
19:54.17 | Gentoochild | http://imagebin.org/195915 |
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19:54.49 | Gentoochild | I switch the decorator from time to time... between Crystal, QtCurve and Plastik |
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19:55.02 | Gentoochild | right now I'm in a Plastik period |
19:55.05 | Gentoochild | :) |
19:56.03 | Gentoochild | the only thing I'm missing right now is that I can't disable the raised inner border in combo boxes and buttons, so they appear completely flat |
19:56.05 | quebre | does k3b have lightscribe support ? |
19:56.29 | Gentoochild | ok I'm off, but I'll be back in 10-15 minutes |
19:56.40 | Gentoochild | you can then tell me how much you like my theming ;-) |
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19:57.58 | BluesKaj | Gentoochild, , very similar to mine except for the colour , http://imagebin.org/195918 |
19:58.10 | timmyt | how can i make my theme transparent, like this : http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Dark-Translucent?content=128877 |
19:58.13 | timmyt | ? |
19:58.44 | BluesKaj | you might have to ctl - to bring the page into the proper size depending your screen size |
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20:01.32 | whilo | mgraesslin: is there some ui concept to succeed the systray for plasma? |
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20:02.17 | mgraesslin | well apps just don't belong there, they should be minimized |
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20:16.21 | whilo | ok, so i guess the task manager should be activity aware, then we could have launchers for common apps as well as activity specific ones |
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20:43.02 | EvilMachine | hello. say guys, is there a way to add a little plugin or whatever to kwin so that i can do Super+MouseX for certain things, like close a program with Super+Mouse3 (the wheel or was that 2?)? |
20:43.35 | EvilMachine | i mean a script plugin. like one would do in firefox |
20:43.58 | EvilMachine | i also need another one to force windows to certain positions, sizes and modes (like always on top of fullscreen) |
20:44.17 | EvilMachine | because i try to finally switch from compiz. |
20:44.34 | mgraesslin | EvilMachine: kwin is much more powerful than compiz in that regard |
20:44.43 | mgraesslin | there are static window rules, but also dynamic scripts |
20:45.36 | mgraesslin | mouse shortcuts are tricky, there you would have to map the mouse button to a keyboard key |
20:46.27 | EvilMachine | mgraesslin: ouch. :) |
20:46.48 | EvilMachine | mgraesslin: it would be really great if it was more powerful. |
20:47.04 | mgraesslin | it is :-) |
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20:47.26 | EvilMachine | but the stuff i can configure in the system settings (the shortcuts) don't let me do anything but a very limited subset. |
20:47.57 | EvilMachine | it would be cool if you could tell me how to use the full power of kwin |
20:48.08 | mgraesslin | EvilMachine: have a look e.g. at http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/KWin/Scripting |
20:48.14 | chetnick | Upgraded to KDE 4.8, everything seems to be fine except the panel icons. They are huge. http://i.imgur.com/5dEuU.jpg |
20:48.14 | EvilMachine | scripting things, setting rules, etc |
20:48.33 | EvilMachine | chetnick: a dpi thing? |
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20:49.41 | chetnick | EvilMachine: icons grow infinitely with panel. |
20:49.50 | mgraesslin | EvilMachine: for positioning windows: http://userbase.kde.org/KWin#You_want_an_application_to_launch_in_a_specific_size_and_position_every_time |
20:50.05 | EvilMachine | mgraesslin: hey, at first glance that looks great! so basically i can do *everything*. i could theoretically even make the windows fly around like monsters in a game. (not that i wanted. ;) |
20:50.30 | mgraesslin | EvilMachine: yes, the author of the feature used it to play pong |
20:50.37 | EvilMachine | lool |
20:50.48 | EvilMachine | mgraesslin: there's no gui for all that stuff though, right? |
20:51.16 | mgraesslin | for scripting there is one in current master (that is 4.9) |
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20:51.25 | EvilMachine | i think it would be nice if i could at least have the shortcuts in the normal system settings list. but it doesn't allow certain ones like the mouse ones. |
20:51.42 | mgraesslin | as said: map them to keyboard keys |
20:51.46 | EvilMachine | mgraesslin: hmm… that looks promising |
20:51.48 | mgraesslin | or try the mouse shortcut system |
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20:52.22 | zemo | kdepepo: ping |
20:52.37 | EvilMachine | mgraesslin: aren't the keys of the mouse already a generic "keyboard" to X? |
20:52.45 | kdepepo | hi zemo |
20:52.46 | mgraesslin | no |
20:52.50 | mgraesslin | they are a mouse |
20:53.00 | zemo | kdepepo: cant start kmail: http://privatepaste.com/30906f1d76 |
20:53.04 | zemo | kdepepo: any hint? |
20:54.02 | EvilMachine | mgraesslin: hmm, i thought to the kernel and modern xorg, they were all just event devices with keys, buttons and axis, and so it would make no difference. |
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21:14.19 | EvilMachine | holy… wow! with that scripting API I could port my JS/HTML5/Canvas game to a Plasmid in one evening! nice work! i didn’t know there was such a big api! |
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21:28.27 | feep | hi |
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21:28.53 | feep | is there any way or plugin to configure kdevelop to send a sequence of keys to its embedded konsole window when some key is pressed? |
21:28.58 | feep | like, say, F9 -> "arrow-up return"? |
21:29.31 | feep | I prefer a terminal for compilation, but having to select it with the mouse for every rebuild gets annoying |
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21:37.31 | feep | okay, looks like kdevelop exports a qdbus interface for sending text to the console |
21:37.36 | feep | this could be just what I'm looking for |
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21:47.49 | feep | new question |
21:47.55 | feep | how do I use sendText on konsole to send an arrow-up? |
21:48.00 | feep | \033[A doesn't work. |
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21:52.48 | feep | nvm, got it too |
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21:57.13 | yecril71pl | update: kmailservice is a KDE3 thing |
21:57.28 | yecril71pl | I have it only because I have KDE3 in /opt |
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22:06.54 | feep | okay, how can I save the currently active document in kdevelop? |
22:06.57 | feep | from qdbus |
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22:15.21 | feep | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/541837/ :D |
22:15.24 | feep | carry on everybody |
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22:34.44 | alexandr | Всем привет))) KDE 4.8 поставили? |
22:36.01 | thiago | did not understand the most important word in that sentence |
22:36.09 | thiago | assuming you asked "released", the answer is "yes" |
22:37.24 | Webfantom | :) |
22:37.24 | Webfantom | <PROTECTED> |
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22:43.05 | genfool | permission issue? not sure how to troubleshoot. If I open dolphin and go to one of my other drives installed, it ask for root password and fails .... if I use kdesu dolphin and enter root password is fine .... any clues where to look? |
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22:48.10 | Schrodinger`Cat | hey |
22:48.41 | yecril71pl | "поставили" means both "delivered" and "installed", so the question was actually ambiguous. |
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22:49.29 | Schrodinger`Cat | i'm searching a way to enlarge the area where the mouse pointeur can "catch" the side of a windows, without enlarging the size of the windows border, how i can do it ? thanks |
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22:50.02 | Schrodinger`Cat | for changing the size of the windows :) |
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22:59.23 | Schrodinger`Cat | nobody ? :/ |
22:59.27 | Schrodinger`Cat | miaou ! |
22:59.51 | Schrodinger`Cat | im searching searching, nowhere i found the solution |
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23:06.37 | yecril71pl | The border is a visual indication of functionality. If you change the functionality without changing its visual indicator, you confuse yourself and everybody. |
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23:14.59 | Schrodinger`Cat | yecril71pl: :/ thanks quand meme : |
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23:21.18 | VaterGarp | This is a Qt question but rather user oriented so I thought I'd ask here |
23:21.33 | VaterGarp | Pretty much all my Qt applications are in English even though my language in KDE is set to German |
23:21.50 | VaterGarp | That is: right clicking somewhere in the application will give me an English context menu |
23:22.11 | VaterGarp | Which regardless of the state of the application's translation should be German as well, right? |
23:22.26 | VaterGarp | I know it used to be German a few weeks ago |
23:22.54 | VaterGarp | And I haven't found information on where to explicitly set the language for Qt applications if that is even possible |
23:23.27 | kdepepo | VaterGarp, Qt should respect LANG, while KDE has its own var (KDE_LANG, afaik) |
23:23.28 | VaterGarp | I've tried starting the application I'm mostly concerned about using something like this: |
23:23.36 | VaterGarp | (export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8; qtparted) |
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23:24.14 | VaterGarp | And LANG is set correctly anyway |
23:24.20 | VaterGarp | As 'locale' tells me |
23:26.54 | VaterGarp | Running 'qtconfig' with LANG correctly set should run it in German, right? |
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23:28.53 | VaterGarp | Unfortunately this is not only an annoyance since an application of mine relies on the date format to be German |
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23:29.16 | VaterGarp | (stupid, I know, but that's how the database has been filled for many months, I cannot change that back easily) |
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23:31.29 | pinotree | VaterGarp: ask in #qt |
23:31.50 | VaterGarp | Ok |
23:32.03 | VaterGarp | I was a bit afraid of asking those hardcore developers how to change my language settings |
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23:32.20 | VaterGarp | But well |
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23:38.11 | sjraarke | What does akonadi_agent_launcher do? |
23:38.37 | sjraarke | I have one that keeps a core at 100% |
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23:47.52 | yecril71pl | akonadi_agent_launcher launches Akonadi agents ;-) |
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23:49.59 | ath1 | I'm using opensuse 12.1 with kde 4.7.2. How can I put a file on the desktop, like in gnome? |
23:53.56 | yecril71pl | ath1: drag the file to the desktop widget |
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23:54.36 | ath1 | yecril71pl: I have none, I clicked it away. |
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23:55.15 | yecril71pl | add it to the desktop |
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23:55.57 | yecril71pl | add the desktop widget to the desktop |
23:56.18 | ath1 | dont know how |
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23:56.40 | yecril71pl | Did you read the manual? |
23:57.04 | ath1 | no. Should it be intuitive the use? |
23:57.15 | ath1 | *shoudnt |
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23:57.46 | yecril71pl | How would you expect it to work? |
23:58.46 | ath1 | click on file in dolphin, drag it to the desktop, drop it. Like in gnome. |
23:58.46 | einar77 | ath1: press alt-f2, type "dolphin" and you'll get the file manager in your home dir |
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23:59.06 | einar77 | ath1: it works like that in fact |
23:59.12 | einar77 | you can choose to have an icon, or a folder view |
23:59.34 | einar77 | ath1: but to be sure |
23:59.36 | ath1 | got it |
23:59.47 | einar77 | you want to *copy* a file to the desktop folder, or have a shortcut? |
23:59.57 | ath1 | copy |