IRC log for #kde on 20120112

00:02.23r0ck4shit is about QgTkStyle cannot be used with the GtkQT_engine
00:02.29r0ck4sh:(
00:02.45r0ck4shi have like a month dealing with that
00:05.22r0ck4shcan somebody please at least tell me
00:05.29r0ck4shhow can i get rid of it
00:05.32r0ck4sh.....
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00:07.45Sho_unrelated to kde
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00:09.03r0ck4shaha
00:09.18r0ck4shand then it's related
00:10.06Sho_qgtkstyle is a style engine bundled with qt that calls out to the active gtk theme, qt uses it by default in gnome (and i guess also xfce)
00:10.27r0ck4shyeah your right!
00:10.30r0ck4shbuuuuuuuuuut
00:10.41r0ck4shi installed and uninstalled it
00:10.46Sho_but your gtk theme seems to be gtk-qt-engine, which is a gtk theme that calls out to the active qt theme
00:10.51r0ck4shand the problem continued to happen
00:10.51Sho_so you create an infinite look
00:10.55Sho_*loop
00:10.58Sho_which can't work
00:11.04Sho_either change your gtk theme or your qt theme
00:11.09r0ck4shhow can i change that?
00:11.20r0ck4shi will change it
00:11.24Sho_for qt apps with qtconfig
00:11.29Sho_for kde apps with system settings
00:14.00r0ck4shQPainter::setBrush: Painter not active
00:14.17Sho_harmless
00:14.24r0ck4shQPainter::setPen: Painter not active
00:14.36Sho_same
00:14.44r0ck4shsystem settings doesnt appear to be working
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00:18.03r0ck4shwell
00:18.14r0ck4shthis will be hard to fix
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01:10.51mystica555so apparently my problem with vdpau is in kwin
01:10.58mystica555as in, killall -9 kwin allows my mouse to work again
01:11.10mystica555so a quick fix for myself : alt-f2; killall -9 kwin && kwin
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03:33.07mmlj4slackware, KDE 4.5.5... I'm trying to edit settings in kontact, but I get a popup saying "starting akonadi server" which never goes away, and I can't click on the settings window to actually change anything
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05:48.03anticwkde 4.6 ... bluedevil sees an a2dp headset ... but it's not clear how i actually route sound to the device
05:48.27anticwif i don't use bluedevil and want to hack about in alsa-land ... i can probably get it working, but i was hoping to avoid that
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05:51.29anticwhmm...   kmix did see the device but no anymore
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06:19.47the_gamerhi folks, is it possible to tell kde that i would like to drag and drop the programs in the panel from the application where they are even shown when they are minimized like in gnome?
06:20.15the_gameri would like to change the order they are shown there
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06:23.16sreichoh, change the ordering of the tasks in the panel?
06:23.33sreichjust right an empty spot near it and select "task manager settings"
06:23.39sreichby default it's alphabetical
06:25.31the_gamersreich, i thought it was the order i started the programs in... is there a way to change it by hand with drag and drop?
06:25.43sreichyes. I told you
06:25.55the_gamerok, thanks a lot :)
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06:31.11TimiiSELECT distinct s.TAVOITEPAIVAKAYTTOONOTTOKOKEELLE,c.OID,c.TYYPPIAPTEEKKI,
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06:31.25Timiidamnit right click paste
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06:34.38sreichlol
06:34.46sreichlooks like *someone* is doing some SQL stuff ;p
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06:51.21cjaeis there a control module for ufw fiewall for kde 4? that is in release stage?
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07:44.40CaldrinHi! I use KDE 4.7.3 in a Linux Mint 12 and I look for help with the following issue: ...
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07:46.37CaldrinI have a local user and one that gets its home from NFS4 and its passwd entry from LDAP. The local user works fine but the network user can not start its KDE. This means when I start the local user I get the box showing me which services are started and then eventually I have a working KDE session. The network user does not get this box and therefore also never gets a working session.
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07:47.20CaldrinWhen I delete ~/.kde/ for the network user, everything works fine until next time I try to login.
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07:49.16CaldrinWhat can I do to find the cause of this issue and how can I solve it?
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07:54.09ompaulthat is a many variable problem, the first thing I would try is to find out if you the ability to log into fvwm or some tiny window manager like that or you get the same kind of problems, then you know it is not a kde issue, also you don't say which box the .kde is being created on (I hope the nfs share) if not your not setting it up right, lastly I'd point out that NFS is not a great way to handle users home directories without tonnes of bandwidth for
07:54.10ompauleach user or the experience will be clunky as you add users
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07:55.14ompaulby all means have a "work" folder, where all their docs/files live on NFS just not their config files still it is a way to watch things grind to a halt with enough users or data
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07:59.54CaldrinI can log into XFCE and Gnome without any issues.
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08:03.14ompaulthen I suggest you check your permissions on the .kde - have to go to work :-(
08:03.46Caldrin777 on all directories, 666 on files. Did not change anything :-(
08:04.15CaldrinI'll probably ignore the issue and go with your local config suggestion.
08:05.26CaldrinThanks for your help.
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08:22.12NoqturnalHeya. What's the easiest way to bulk-set file associations?
08:22.31NoqturnalI'm looking to get all files with a mimetype of text/* to be opened by, say, Kate and not KWrite.
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09:50.25soa2iiHi. How can you view private members in umbrello? My class diagram jsut shows public ones and I can't find an option to show all.
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09:53.20rethushave change the sort of the windows to tiled, but don't know, how to switch back
09:53.24rethusany idea
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13:28.51Wintushow do I autoclose all my stuff when shutting down kde, so they wont automatically restart during login?
13:29.06WintusOr disable that feature
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13:30.11rdieter_workWintus: systemsettings->startup&shutdown->session management
13:30.31csslayerrellig: check global hotkey kwin section.
13:31.08rdieter_workWintus: sounds like you may want to use "start with an empty session" or "restore manually saved session" options instead
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14:28.18mayank_hi
14:28.53mayank_anybody here
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14:30.33annmaask your question
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14:48.51napsterHow to tell this mother fucking Amarok that don't use my internet connection without asking me?
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14:51.41who_melearn to ask questions nicely
14:52.13KRFnapster: unplug the network cable. it'll solve at least two things at one go.
14:52.40rdieternapster: for starters, disable some plugins probably (settings->configure->plugins)... don't use wiki/lyrics applets
14:52.55napsterrdieter: ty
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15:26.00BluesKajHey all
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15:28.18Peace-hi i have a problem with kate  i have opened a file  control  and it has an huge line of dependeces
15:28.29Peace-and i get this ntrol was opened and contained too long lines (more than 1,024 characters). Too long lines were wrapped and the document is set to read-only mode, as saving will modify its content.
15:29.18Peace-there is a way to disable this stuff?
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15:53.43Briareos1could it be that kmail 1.9.10 does not support mailto-links with parameters? e.g. from command line: kmail mailto:uiae@ex.org?subject=Test&body=Text
15:55.19Briareos1result: 'new mail' view with only the recipient filled
15:55.29Briareos1is there a workaround?
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15:56.41pinotreeare you invoking that command like that, or putting the argument within '...'?
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15:58.30noxisanyone know how to make kmail quicker at retrieving the email contents when it is clicked on? Prefetch it or something
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16:05.20Briareos1pinotree: neither way makes any difference - though I am aware of (especially) the ampersand in between
16:05.40Briareos1so with quotes for testing, yes
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17:01.52ddilingerhow can i figure out where the 'Konsole' application is getting the program it uses to open web links?  It used to open in google-chrome like i want but recently its started opening in firefox instead.  /usr/bin/x-www-browser still points to chrome so i'm not sure where to look
17:02.44cb400fit should use the kde default browser... so look in systemsettings -> default apps
17:03.01ddilingerhmm, i dont think i have system settings?  i'm not really using kde just konsole
17:03.08ddilingerkonsole + xmonad
17:03.33ddilingerwhat command line program launches the system settings and i can probably install it
17:03.37cb400fthen try 'kcmshell4 componentchooser'
17:04.07ddilingerperfect, thanks!
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17:08.19kollapseHi. I'm thinking on getting started on using Kmail2 (with about 10 accounts w/ thousands of emails) -> Any hints / suggestions ?
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17:11.49cb400ftest, test, test before you mess up your production machine
17:11.54cb400fand use pop3
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17:12.07cb400fand reconfigure from scratch instead of migrating
17:12.26kollapseOh... that bad ?
17:12.45cb400fand if you have to use imap let it complete whatever it is doing for ages and ages
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17:12.54kollapseI get the feeling people aren't very fond of kmail2.
17:13.10cb400fat least for "some people" .. of course people don't report the success stories (if they exist)
17:13.38cb400fmigrated to kmail2 of 4.7.2 last weekend... 2x pop3 and a very low traffic imap... works ok
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17:14.29kollapseI'm on 4.7.97
17:14.52kollapse4.8 RC I guess.
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17:17.04JackWinteri suppose this is really a question for #chromium, but does anyone know why it's always starting up behind other windows instead of on top of them?
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17:22.54Peace-dolphin bug ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A70RqW1mVio
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17:23.26Peace-is known or not?
17:25.46kollapseAny kde scanning tool ?
17:25.50kollapseXsane looks a little... dated
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17:26.30PelleTutdoes anyone know why fonts like terminus, dina and others aren't shown properly in Konsole? Some parts of letters are cut away, like bottom part of "g" or "p"
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17:28.36kdepepoPelleTut, Qt 4.8?
17:29.01PelleTutkdepepo: yes
17:29.12kdepeposee bug 280896
17:29.31kdepepo(likely a Qt bug)
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17:30.39kollapsePeace-: Does it use sane backend ?
17:33.20Peace-kollapse: i am not sure
17:33.32Peace-kollapse: i have an hp and it worked fine here
17:33.42PelleTutkdepepo: thanks, it worked after enabling bi-directional text rendering as suggested in bug commit
17:33.49Peace-kollapse: but i guess yes
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17:38.06number_numberI've moved my home directory to /local/user using a .xsession, which kde honours perfectly, in dolphin etc typing ~/ takes me to /local/user .. however, in gnome apps, typing ~/ takes me to /home/user which is !cool.. I guess this is probably a #gnome question, but do any of you guys have any ideas how I might rectify?
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17:42.24thiagonumber_number: check all the places where your home dir is listed
17:42.29thiagofor example, /etc/passwd
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18:04.24number_numberthiago: ok, so in the office we use an nfs system, which is constantly crashing.. by logging in with my .xsession-local I can happily work through any of the nfs crashes with my local home directory.. the /home on my box is redirected to /gpfs/unixhome/unixusers... I guess this means if gnome needs to look at /etc/passwd to find my home directory then I don't have a workaround.. but that would seem a little crazy no?
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18:12.57thiagonumber_number: yes, it's crazy that you're trying to work around an NFS issue
18:13.04thiagoNFS servers *must* *be* *stable*
18:13.11thiagoclients do not survive an NFS server going away
18:16.29number_numberthiago: well, essentially I survive quite nicely when the nfs goes away, I backup my data to it with a crontab so I guess if it was down for a long time I'd be in trouble, it generally only hangs for 10/15 mins.. which would be a disaster if I couldn't work through it.. but working locally helps me out a lot... the nfs server stability is a joke, but it's not exactly within my remit :)
18:17.27thiagoyou can make it be fixed by claiming it's impossible to work
18:17.38thiagoyour work is lost or you have to go get a coffee every time it crashes
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18:18.03thiagocalculate how much downtime you have per day, multiply that by your salary and tell your boss that's how much is wasted
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18:20.07number_numberthiago: well, I'm a lowly phd student, and I don't lose any work when we crash, just a bit of time.. it's not getting fixed any time soon anwyway, and certainly won't be fixed at my behest.. in the meantime, I'm trying to hack my way around it and learn something in the process! \o/
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18:34.09Shaan7man, oxygen-transparent is beautiful :)
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18:38.58szalShaan7: yeah, but unfortunately not as feature-complete as Oxygen, or at leat it wasn't last time I checked
18:39.18szaland had some glitches back then
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18:39.52Shaan7well I have to admit I dont customize much features in the decoration, so can't say
18:40.42Shaan7but yea, I've heard in 4.8 kwin performance has become even better for transparency stuff :)
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18:57.30sreichusing it right now in 4.7.4
18:57.45sreichit's regularly synced with oxygen btw
18:57.50sreicher..vice versa
18:58.00sreichso it has all the features of oxygen
18:58.30sreichdoesn't have too many glitches either..then again my gpu drivers are actually quite good
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19:08.02cb400fsreich: what gpu drivers are those? .. I thought they all sucked :-)
19:08.18sreichradeon BARTS
19:08.20cb400fone way or another
19:08.22cb400fhm
19:08.34sreiche.g. right now I have full blur/compositing and stufff
19:08.38sreichthey're excellent...
19:08.43sreichcan play even nexuiz on max too
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19:09.03sreichi mean, like anything there's always room for lots of improvement. like powermanagement isn't quite there yet...but other than that it's quite nice
19:09.30cb400fgood to hear :-)
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19:09.54sreichworks great on my laptop too, which is like Evergreen iirc, a 5420 or so
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19:11.38JackBauer24Hi all. Anyone know how can I maximize window permanently in KDE? I resized firefox's window and now everytime I open it, it is in small size.
19:12.45thiagoAlr+F3, Advanced, Special application settings
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19:14.31JackBauer24thiago: thanks, I didn't know you can configure so many options there :)
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19:51.00DrSlonyHey! When KDE 4.8 is out, then 4.9, what will you call the next one? I just read a bunch of whining on the interwebs, some KDE person on the 6th of June 2011 wrote "In essence, this means there is no KDE 5, and there will never be" so I wonder what happens after the inevitable 4.9 (of which there is no mention on the techbase http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules )
19:51.42ruedigerDrSlony: 4.10? but I believe that someone suggested a kde5
19:51.48ruedigerwhen qt5 is released
19:52.01ruedigerbut without major architectural changes
19:52.16sreichi think it was meant that there isn't a kde5 in the scary sense of a kde 4.0
19:52.22ruedigerhttp://aseigo.blogspot.com/2011/05/qt5-kde5.html
19:52.36sreichso while the number may indeed be that (not sure if it is or not), it'll just be minor rebuilds against qt5
19:52.42sreichwell, not minor. but not severe like qt3->4
19:53.35DrSlonysounds good
19:53.48sreichmaybe we sh ould go the linux kernel route. KDE 4.8.3.1.15
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19:53.54DrSlonyheh, no
19:53.59sreichhaha
19:54.04DrSlonylinus sorted that out with 3.0
19:54.07sreichyeah
19:54.09DrSlonyhe ad man.
19:54.10DrSlony*he da man.
19:54.20sreichwell, he's the one who made it the old way to beginw ith ;)
19:54.40sreichbut the reason why kde 4.0 was painful was mostly because we had to rewrite everything because qt rewrote everything
19:55.00sreichand then we also had our own architectural changes we wanted to throw in while we were breaking compatability (which can only happen once in a lifetime, basically)
19:55.05DrSlonyspeaking of qt5, any plans on when kde4 might switch to using it? will it happen on a per-module (or framework or whatever you call it) basis?
19:55.31DrSlonyyeah i understand that, it had to be done some day
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19:59.09DrSlonyso i guess OpenGL rendering of QT5 will be implemented progressively per application that updates its GUI code
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20:18.57sreichwait. huh?
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20:19.00sreichOGL rendering of qt5?
20:19.06sreichto which area are your eferring to?
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20:20.12DrSlonyarea?
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20:24.06sreichyes
20:24.13sreichogl in which sections?
20:24.15sreichQML?
20:24.24sreichi'm assuming?
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20:33.48sreichDrSlony: ?
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20:35.03Leoneofhey sreich
20:35.12sreichhi
20:36.11Leoneofsreich: i have question about consuming power again :D
20:36.20sreichshoot
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20:37.16Leoneofsreich: KDE consumes a lot of power?
20:37.31sreichno
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20:37.59Leoneofoh great :)
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20:38.10sreichprovided you have your udnerlying os setup properly
20:38.18sreichwith freq scaling and gpu underclocking
20:38.21Leoneofsreich: thanks again!
20:38.24sreichyep
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20:43.47user26Does anyone know if the bug where applications still appear to be open in the system tray after they are closed and until you click the Kmenu has been resolved for the 4.8 release?
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20:46.06Taoki_linuxHello
20:46.25Taoki_linuxDoes anyone know the repository whre I can get the Oxygen Transparent theme from? There's no easy way to find and install it :(
20:46.47Taoki_linuxI'd like a download if possible though, that I can keep offline. In RPM format with all dependencies
20:47.59sreichTaoki_linux: kde-look.org
20:48.11sreichsearch
20:48.19rdieter_workuser26: it's a qt bug, patch (and upstream qt references), here http://bugs.kde.org/275469
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20:48.38rdieter_workso... yes? :)
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20:48.56user26rdieter_work: Most excellent. Thanks!
20:49.45Taoki_linuxsreich: I know of http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/oxygen-transparent?content=127752 But it seems to provide me with source and steps to compile. I'd like to keep it in an easy to install format, not compile and install it manually every time
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20:50.04sreichthen ask in your distros channel
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20:50.08sreiche.g. #fedora-kde
20:50.16sreichodds are it isn't there...
20:50.20sreichand..everytime?
20:50.34sreichidk, it was dead easy. hugo's even got a script to do everything, all you have to do is run it
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20:54.33Taoki_linuxAnyway, if any of the KDE admins are here: I so wish oxygen transparent could be included in KDE officially. I know it has some issues with video players, but it could be an optional pakcage (and not a default theme). This would likely be appreciated
20:54.48Taoki_linuxI use Aero in Windows, and Oxygen Transparent is the best wat to achieve this in Linux too
20:55.05Taoki_linuxJust difficult when you have to hunt for it and find the best way to keep up to date
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20:55.40pinotree"kde admins" have nothing do with this
20:55.50sreichi'd recommend taking it up with hpeirra in #oxygen
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20:56.16sreichwai.t
20:56.19sreichactually, nevermind.
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20:56.29sreichharass your distro about it
20:56.35sreichsince it's already *in* kde git repos
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20:56.42sreichergo, your distros fault that they haven't packaged it
20:56.56pinotreeoh sure, even when there's nothing released?
20:57.19Taoki_linuxsreich: Oh? It's included with KDE now?
20:57.22Taoki_linuxWhich version if i might ask
20:57.26sreichI wouldn't say "included"...
20:57.27Taoki_linuxMaybe mine is downdated
20:57.28pinotreeTaoki_linux: none
20:57.31Taoki_linuxah, ok
20:57.32sreichI said it's in the git repositories...
20:57.37Taoki_linuxThat it is
20:57.41raignarokhey there #kde. is there any option in KMail 2 to have a "smart folders" like in thunderbird, e.g. to have all your incoming mail in just one inbox?
20:57.42sreichthat doesn't imply it's being "shipped" with KDE SC
20:57.55sreichpinotree: it's synced with oxygen master
20:58.01sreichwhat do you expect? release numbering?
20:58.01pinotreesreich: so?
20:58.15sreichso ship it with it
20:58.19sreichwlel, alongside
20:58.32pinotreeno, distro expects releases, not "this is a git repo, snapshot it"
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20:58.41sreichah, I see
20:58.49sreichthen it is in fact hugo's job ;)
20:58.55pinotreeexactly
20:59.01sreichTaoki_linux: bug hpeirira then
20:59.07sreichcan never type his name properly...
20:59.11pinotreeso far, this is how the knm/plasma-nm thing worked, and that has been a huge debacle
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20:59.20sreichpinotree: haha
20:59.36pinotreedoesn't see anything fuzzy
20:59.58sreichfuzzy?
21:00.16pinotree*funny
21:00.30sreichoh, well..your sense of humor is..
21:00.34sreichruns
21:00.38sreich;p
21:00.40AndroidLoverInSFis there a single directory that i can copy to backup and restore all my kate settings including sessions?
21:00.55sreich.kde/....somethignsomething kate
21:01.13toskyraignarok: if you talk about POP account, by default incoming messages go to the same inbox; if you use IMAP or DIMAP, you get different "mail folder trees".
21:01.26sreichgoes back to code..
21:01.31toskyraignarok: in fact there is a long standing request for feature for having... separate inboxes: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97205
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21:04.02raignaroktosky: I talk about IMAP accounts, should have said that. ;)
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21:05.15toskyraignarok: ah! Then I don't know (I prefer separate trees :)
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21:06.47raignaroktosky: I think it's a little cumbersome, as i have to have opened all trees for all mail addresses to be able to click on inbox directly. but then the tree list on the left is much too long to fit on one screen.. :(
21:08.00raignaroktosky: When thinking about it, I guess what I actually want is to be able to click on the mail account, and then instead of seeing just nothing, see your inbox..
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21:09.13toskyraignarok: doesn't kmail provide a configurable quick access for some folders (usually in the top left corner)?
21:09.40pinotree"favourites"
21:09.52toskypinotree: thanks :)
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21:15.11raignaroktosky: pinotree: It does? Oh thanks, found it. :) Never thought about what that blank space up there was for..
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21:28.52the_gamersomeone told me i could drag and drop the programs in my panel when i change the order to manual... i did that but i can't change the order... do i do it in the wrong way? what other way is there when drag and drop is wrong?
21:29.27the_gamersreich, i'm not 100% sure but i think it was you who gave me the tip
21:29.56sreichyes I did..but now I'm not so sure about what you're referring to
21:30.16sreichI thought you meant the tasks in the panel, e.g. what you click to minimize a window, etc.
21:30.22sreich(god I wish there was a good term for that..
21:30.59the_gamersry, but i'm german and my kde is in german... perhaps a screenshot would be better i guess...
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21:31.07the_gamerwait a moment please
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21:31.43sreichthat woudl be easier
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21:41.48the_gamersreich, http://www.imagebanana.com/view/w6xfusex/screenshot.jpeg
21:42.21sreichthe_gamer: ok, then do what I told you yesterday(?)
21:42.31the_gameri'm not sure if this shows what i want but it shows what i am taling about... let's say i want the "inbox..." from the thunderbird application at the left
21:42.37sreichit's probably easier if you just goto panel settings
21:42.41the_gamerthe thing is it doesn't work
21:42.46sreichthen mouse over that area with the icons...and go to settings
21:42.53sreichand set it so it's "Manually" sorting
21:42.57the_gamerok, another screenshot, moment please...
21:43.03sreichk
21:44.43the_gamerhttp://www.imagebanana.com/view/w6xfusex/screenshot.jpeg
21:44.54the_gamermanually is set... but i can't drag and drop there
21:45.45sreichthe_gamer: isn't that the same image?
21:46.27the_gameroh, sry, wrong url
21:46.42the_gamerhttp://www.imagebanana.com/code/s53tpp7y/screenshot1.jpg
21:46.44the_gamerthis one
21:47.04the_gamerhttp://www.imagebanana.com/view/s53tpp7y/screenshot1.jpg
21:47.05the_gamerbetter
21:47.06the_gamersry
21:47.48the_gamer"Gruppieren und Sortieren" means "group and sort"... i set manually but i can't change the order
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21:49.40sreichthe_gamer: and you dropped the icons?
21:49.43sreichthe feedback isn't too good
21:50.11sreiche.g.you dragged that green pidgin icon to the left of the terminal icon, and released?
21:50.39the_gameryes i did
21:51.12the_gameri am clicking on it, holding the let mousebutton, moving the mouse over it, releasing the mousebutton... and it moves back
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21:52.10sreichthe_gamer: and the arrow icon doesn't show a "no" sign (circle with line through it) to indicate you can't drop it?
21:52.12Leoneofxchat in KDE, incredible ;D
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21:52.18sreichLeoneof: hehehe yeah
21:52.21sreichuse konversation already!
21:52.30ChemBroquassel ftw
21:53.00Sho_konvi <3
21:53.11cb400f;-)
21:53.43the_gamerit shows a red cirlce with a line when i'm not over the other icon but if i'm directly over it, it looks fine but either way it drops back
21:54.16sreichhm. sounds like a bug then...indeed
21:54.20sreichversion ?
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21:55.28the_gamerworks fine in gnome
21:55.43the_gamerkde 4.7.4
21:56.39badolahow do we set global proxy setting in kde..??
21:56.51badolaAny specific tool for that..?
21:58.42the_gamersry but time for bed. i thought it was another checkbox i missed or something easy to spot... thanks for any help! and sreich, thanks for your time and efforts!
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22:06.58sreichbadola: system settings?
22:07.16badolakde on ubuntu 11.10
22:07.46badolai used gnome tool network to set the proxy settings
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22:08.21sreichuh..I answered your question...
22:08.28sreichrun system settings
22:08.32sreich'systemsettings'
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22:12.51badolasreich: Is that a graphical tool..?
22:13.00sreichyes
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22:25.41badolaok, I will try it out.
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23:42.38codertuxhi, I'm having some memory usage issues. system activity tells me kwin is using ~100mb of ram. is that normal?
23:43.29codertuxnvidia gpu with nouveau drivers on opensuse 12.1
23:43.49Sho_codertux: it's about half here, but 100 mb wouldn't really surprise me
23:44.14codertuxis there a recomended way of restarting it?
23:44.21Sho_especially on nvidia
23:44.32Sho_codertux: kwin --replace
23:45.21codertuxi've had issues with the blob a while back but nouveau is definitely better
23:45.34codertuxSho_: after kwin --replace it dropped to 17mb
23:45.47Sho_cool
23:45.55codertuxwith 35mb shared. before it was 100 mb, 10 mb shared
23:46.01codertuxmemory leak?
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23:52.13sreichpossibly
23:52.27sreichif you can reproduce i'd suggest running it under valgrind
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23:56.03codertuxsreich: i'll keep that in mind. I have a few projects due the following weeks. I'll see if I can reproduce after 4.8 is launched.
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23:56.31sreichkcool
23:56.34codertuxbtw, it went up to 50mb in 10 minutes
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23:56.44codertuxso shouldn't be that hard if it keeps rising
23:57.07sreichright
23:57.13sreichwell, it's at 50 for me actually
23:57.49codertuxnow that I think of it, I'll run it in valgrind over night if it keeps rising
23:58.36codertuxi remember a while ago there was a detailed memory information option. was it removed?
23:58.53sreichstill there
23:59.30codertuxam I missing a dependency or something?

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