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00:01.39Acidcoreyeah i had no problems too
00:01.51Acidcorei mean i was running kde perfectly with nvidia drivers for few days
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00:06.34Acidcoreszal: may I ask what Distro are you using
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00:11.52szalAcidcore: Kubuntu 11.10
00:12.02Acidcorety
00:13.09szalAcidcore: in case you want to try it, note that it comes w/ KDE 4.7.3 by default, so you'll have a lot of Plasma crashes; better to get 4.7.4 from the Kubuntu PPA
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00:14.03Acidcoreis it using acpi
00:14.13Acidcorei'd like to check if it will boot
00:15.12Acidcorealthough I'll still stick with Fedora
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00:21.34szalpretty much every distro these days uses ACPI; if that is a problem you can disable it in the boot options
00:22.57szaland when it comes to the refinement of KDE, there is probably nothing better than openSUSE, but for reasons outside of KDE the current version (12.1) cannot be recommended
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00:24.46szaland yet another KDE distro that consistently gets good ratings but forms a smaller community is PCLinuxOS
00:27.52egwszal - I am intruiged by the comment that openSuse 12.1 cannot be recommended, why is this? (just joined channel)
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00:30.13szalegw: mainly some niggles w/ systemd/udisks and permissions (NetworkManager comes to mind, that needs root access for some stuff by default because the opensuse-security team decided so)
00:31.22szalegw: you can really get cold shivers when reading the opensuse-factory mailing list
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00:33.59egwInteresting, when NM asks for a passwork I just do it and accept it, thinking that is the way NM was set up by the KDE guys
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00:34.45egwBeen using openSuse for a long time now, even with these niggles, I still prefer it over any other distro. I guess evryone has there prefference
00:35.24daniel_bIs this the right place to ask a KMail question? I upgraded from Fedora 13 -> 16 (fresh install), and Kmail seems to have converted my KMail stuff OK, but how do I set it up to check mail from /var/spool/mail/$USER and run it through my mail filters?
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00:36.29daniel_bI've tried Configure->Settings->Accounts->Add->mbox, but that just adds another folder in the list of folders -- I want Kmail to instead move the mail to "Local Folders" (after applying filters). Any ideas?
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00:39.25VollstreckerHey guys, got a little problem. I played a bit around with effects and compositing settings. Now I have a big + and - sign in the lower right corner, so I can't reach logout directly (k, I don't do that often). How can I get rid of this?
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00:41.03szalVollstrecker: you can always reach logout by right-clicking the desktop
00:41.26VollstreckerSure, but this thing just looks ugly.
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00:42.45VollstreckerThe minutes of my clock are under it, too.
00:43.16szalhave a screenshot?
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00:49.06Vollstreckervollstreckernet.dyndns.org/screen.jpg
00:49.24VollstreckerUps
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00:54.02szalVollstrecker: 403
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00:56.32VollstreckerNow it works, Changing apache group and restarting samba doesn't help.
00:56.52VollstreckerI didn't configure apache atm. Next week.
00:58.18VollstreckerI don't know where this thing came from. I experimented with changing desktops and hotkey for this, and then I noticed it.
00:59.10VollstreckerNo tooltips, no context-menu, nothing to even guess what it is or how I can get rid of it again.
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00:59.32egwVollstrecker: looks like a widget of somekind.
01:01.18VollstreckerHas been my first thought, too. But the only updated app, which I know off that it has a new widget, is amarok. But it doesn't look, like it comes from there. And when I click the peanut, I can move or delete every widget, but not this thing.
01:01.41VollstreckerAnd clicking it, doesn't change anything that I could see.
01:01.53egwThat was my next suggestion :(
01:03.29VollstreckerI found the function. When I hit Strg+F8 to get the grid to choose virtual desktop, I can add desktops with this buttons.
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01:10.35egwJust tried it now and I see it also when pressing ctrl+F8. You live and learn. Maybe its a new thing with KDE 4.7
01:11.19VollstreckerPossible, but I use 4.6.5
01:11.41VollstreckerAnd feature or not, or new or not, it's ugly. Make it go away.
01:12.21egwI only see it when I press the key combi. As soon as I select a desktop it goes away
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01:14.03VollstreckerMaybe a glitch that appaered when I played to much. Can I restart kwin without logging out?
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01:21.11egwthere is an effect that controls this desktop grid. Go into system settings > Desktop effects > all effects. in the window management section you will see the desktop grid check box. Un check it
01:24.40VollstreckerUnchecked it, Now I have now way to change desktops, but these buttons are still there.
01:26.20VollstreckerChoosing another effect doesn't work neither, I use nouvoau.
01:26.52egwyou can change desktops using CTRL+F1, CTRL+F2..., I think Strg is your equivalent of CTRL. Not sure how to reststart plasma without logging out. Have done it in the past, can't remember what I did
01:26.53VollstreckerMaybe I logout tomorrow. And maybe I'm lucky and it goes to where it belongs.
01:27.34VollstreckerI now how to restart plasma. Unfortunately it blocks a shell when I do this.
01:28.07VollstreckerAnd more worse, it dies when I close this console and then you're lost.
01:28.23szalVollstrecker: is that widget right-clickable?  does it have a menu?
01:28.32VollstreckerNope
01:28.58VollstreckerI think something went wrong, and now noone knows that it's still there.
01:29.04szalI could swear I've seen it before, but can't put my finger on it as to what it is..  and I don't find it in the widgets list
01:29.46Vollstreckeregw found it, it's for adding desktops when on desktop-change-grid.
01:30.11VollstreckerAnd after I tried that one, it just stayed, so I now declare it a zombie.
01:30.29szalVollstrecker: btw, I like your panel's metalish look :) ..  what theme is that?
01:30.38egwcan you see anything in top to kill it?
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01:32.00VollstreckerNothing on top. Even xkill didn't help.
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01:33.24VollstreckerBut another problem, while playing around, I finally found akonadi settings again. I had 5 adressbooks, 2 full (duplicated), 3 emtpy. Now I'm down to just one full and one empty, But I can't delete the empty one.
01:34.08egwhave you tried system activity monitor, not sure if shown anything more useful, (ctrl+escape). you can filter by program, processes etc
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01:36.54VollstreckerNothing.
01:37.22VollstreckerOr better I'm sure I've seen every process listed before this happened.
01:38.18VollstreckerI think I'll go to bed now and logout when I'm back.
01:38.38egwrun out of ideas, sorry. best of luck tomorrow
01:40.22AcidcoreI just saw the most stranges thing
01:40.41Acidcoredoing yum groups erase "GNOME Desktop Environment" wants to also remove KDE for dependencies
01:40.50Acidcoreit may be GNOME made my KDE won't start
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02:22.09diegoviolahi
02:22.11diegoviolawould kde drag more battery life on my laptop than another wm/de?
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02:27.38daniel_bYes. The GNU screen "window manager" probably uses the least amount of battery power.
02:28.06daniel_bThe 3D compositing leaves something to be desired, though. ;)
02:28.15diegoviolaty
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02:40.25TeslaFutureWhich file contains the setting for the panel icon command parameters?
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02:53.07RingtailedFoxwhere can you get the GNU Window Manager?
02:53.57Sho_there is no such thing
02:54.08RingtailedFox<daniel_b> Yes. The GNU screen "window manager" probably uses the least amount of battery power.
02:54.36Sho_you misparsed that line
02:54.43Sho_it was referring to GNU screen
02:54.53Sho_which is a "window manager" for text terminals
02:54.59RingtailedFoxok
02:55.01Sho_hence he used quotation marks
02:55.30Sho_http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
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04:13.21scientesI am in gnome3, and kmail isn't working cause of kwallet stuff, kwalletd is running
04:13.26scienteswhat do i do?
04:13.40scientes(I just manually ran kwalletd)
04:14.40scienteswait, worked when i restarted kmail
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06:30.34TeslaFutureHow do I get an option in "Leave" to boot to a specific os?
06:30.37TeslaFutureany apps for that?
06:33.26caf4926TeslaFuture: there used to be a drop don toggle on the shutdown button
06:33.37caf4926drop down
06:35.46TeslaFutureill just make one i guess if grub-reboot works
06:35.55TeslaFuturelets find out right now
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07:31.12if0I installed Fedora 16 x86_64 DVD with KDE and I chosed bulgarian for language during the installation and also installed bulgarian support but kdm was set to Bulgarian as a preference, I changed that but the nightmare came when I saw the folder names in my home folder are named in Bulgarian/cyrillic
07:31.20if0Is that fixable without having to rename them myself?
07:33.31if0or if I rename them may that affect any paths/system variables that may be set to my home directory?
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07:39.30if0also some applications (e.g. Users and Groups) are still showing their menus/texts in bulgarian although I changed all the country/region/language options I could find (the kdm language and Country and prefered language in Locale), am I missing a language settings somewhere?
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09:26.48omidoloves konqueror .thnx for this awesome software
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09:29.51pinotreethanks to you for using it
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09:33.35omidopinotree:  i've heared that KDE is going to drop konqueror in favor of rekonq and qoupzilla. is it true?
09:33.51pinotreei never heard that
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09:34.05Peace-rekonq sucks for me , konqueror is still better
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09:35.09omidoKonqueror is the most advanced web browser on earth. also its the only web browser that has not chromified yet
09:35.35Peace-chrome is konqueror with gtk stuff
09:36.06Peace-webkit is ktml by mac
09:36.18Peace-and webkit is the engine of chrome
09:36.37omidoKonqueror integrates best of all  in KDE and it is very advanced and full of tools. also i noticed that it has very small cpu and ram usage compared to mozilla and chrome and opera
09:37.04Peace-i use konqueror for my italian banking stuff and it works :)
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09:37.31talon__?
09:38.35omidoPeace-:  yeah thats nice. i also heared that konqueror and KHTML was created by 4 men. thats cool
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09:39.26Peace-the only feature that is missing on konqueror so in kthml and webkit too is ::::> print selection
09:39.33Peace-:D it doesn't work
09:41.19omidoi have to admit that i have firefox installed too. my distro came with firefox and konqueror preinstalled(opensuse linux 11.4)
09:41.20Peace-btw dolphin rc2 has a bad bug... when i select files ... the names disappear...
09:41.38Peace-omido: kubuntu install rekonq ...
09:41.44Peace-that is chrashin all the time
09:41.48Peace-crashing
09:42.07omidoalso there is a mozilla firefox KDE fork called qoupzilla or something
09:42.16omidothe looks are identical to firefox but i believe its using webkit
09:42.37Peace-no
09:42.44Peace-that is webkit based
09:43.00Peace-mozzilla firefoz is based on geko or somethign like that
09:43.06Peace-you can download firefox-qt
09:43.20Peace-but you need to apply a new theme to get it working properly
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09:49.32trumeedoes anybody understand QSettings.
09:49.48pinotreetrumee: in #qt they do
09:50.07trumeepinotree: yes checking there
09:50.37trumeehttp://www.pastie.org/3142322 doesnt seem to find the file.
09:51.05pinotreeagain, ask in #qt
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09:59.28omidoPeace-: thnx. i think opensuse's default firefox is integrated well and it uses a modified theme
10:00.01Peace-omido: yes here we got a firefox installer that does the same... but you have to install and remove rekonq
10:00.03Peace-xD
10:00.21omidoyou use kubuntu?
10:00.24Peace-yes
10:00.39omidoi downloaded its latest iso . kubuntu 11.10 but found no reason to install it
10:01.19Peace-welll i started with debian
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10:01.31Peace-then i used ubutnu... then kde is my love :D
10:01.47omidosome of my love for openSUSE is because of the fact that its the largest contributer to KDE project and one of the oldest KDE users. also i've heared KDE team use opensuse and KDE snapshots are based on opensuse
10:02.16Peace-well opensuse doesn't worked good in this computer
10:02.26Peace-\ was slower than ubuntu
10:02.35Peace-i dunno now maybe is changed
10:02.35omidoyou may want to try openSUSE 12.1
10:02.45Peace-i am on kubuntu 12.04 :)
10:02.51Peace-i could try yes
10:03.02omidokubuntu 12.04 ?!
10:03.07omidowhat's that ?
10:03.16omidoi thought the latest release is 11.10
10:03.19Peace-it's alpha
10:03.24omidoah. i see
10:03.29Peace-i have kde 4.8 rc2
10:03.31Peace-:D
10:03.47omidonice. i'm still on KDE 4.6.0
10:03.51Peace-:S
10:04.18Peace-omido: i used this to test myh little dirty job :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzEty1TYAE
10:04.44omidoyou know . i'm using this machine for work and study. so my top priority is to be stable. but i'll try other distros using usb flash memory or live cd or virtual machine
10:04.59omidoPeace-:  i cannot access youtube.its blocked by the goverenment
10:05.03Peace-LOL
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10:05.12Peace-omido: from where
10:05.18Peace-china?
10:05.21omidoiran
10:05.24Peace-wtf
10:05.46Peace-i hate this kind of stuff but i guess we are offtopic
10:06.06omidothey are going to shutdown our internet
10:06.12omidoand create an inland interanet
10:06.16jazkause a vpn?
10:06.22Peace-poor people
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10:06.23Peace-mah
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10:06.57omidono. vpn is not going to work. its not working now too. my only hope is tor project
10:07.03Muttleythe comic strip plasmoid does not exist anymore? can't find it on kde-look
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10:08.00omidoi also use KDE on my windows xp. i use many of KDE software there.
10:08.05jazkainland intranet = north korea :p
10:08.29Peace-this stuff just sucks
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10:09.33pinotreeMuttley: it's still part of kdeplasma-addons
10:10.25Muttleypinotree: so where i can find it?
10:10.37pinotreewith every kde sc release?
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10:54.28FrogbarfIs there anything like "webshots" for KDE 4 that allows for random images to be downloaded from the internet to be used as wallpaper?
10:56.02einar77Frogbarf: there's "picture of the day"
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11:01.01FrogbarfHow to I get it to display as wallpaper?
11:01.33FrogbarfIs there a plasma widget for that?
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11:04.41cb400fFrogbarf: maybe have a look at the slideshow desktop background
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11:09.59Frogbarfcb, I have that but it only loads images that exist on my harddrive
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12:04.22ivan|homehi all, if somebody is using localised kde sc, can you tell me whether the common directories like /home/user/Music have localised names like /home/user/Музыка
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12:38.41ivan|homehi all, if somebody is using localised kde sc, can you tell me whether the common directories like /home/user/Music have localised names like /home/user/Музыка
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12:40.24Torchivan|home: a glance at the spec suggests they should be localised.
12:40.31Torchhttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/common-user-directories-naming-spec
12:41.09ivan|homeTorch: thanks
12:41.34ivan|homethough I don't know whether we are following the spec
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12:50.21Torchright, looking at kde-workspace/kcontrol/desktoppaths/globalpaths.cpp we're not. looks pretty hardcoded to me there. maybe it's set again somewhere else though.
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12:51.30cb400fit might depend on the distro and the xdg-dirs package or sumfink
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12:52.02cb400fthose folders are localized for me on opensuse.. pretty sure it's translated via .desktop files (from fdo)
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12:52.54ivan|homeok, thank you both - I hoped I will not need to localize some activity stuff :)
12:53.07Torchahh, right. further down in the same source file its using i18n/("Music")
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12:53.39Torchthose seem to correspond to KGlobalSettings::musicPath() and so on.
12:53.47Torchivan|home: also, we're off topic here ;)
12:53.56Torchivan|home: i suggest #kde-devel or #plasma
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12:54.26ivan|homeheh, I know - I didn't expect anyone to get deep into code here - just to see whether anyone has localised folder names :)
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12:54.58ivan|home(aka, question for the users :D)
12:56.34Conundrum2khey folks, i need some advice if you have a min.. I setup fedora 16 yesterday with kde on my laptop.. haven't used it since fedora 5, loved it, and everything was working great.. had it setup on dual monitors on my laptop in a docking station.. undocked my computer, went home.. now every time i launch something from the folder widgett the pannel crashes, and every notification (such as battery
12:56.35Conundrum2klevel low) appears 4 times on my screen.. when i do launch an application i have to re add the default pannel, right click on the app and put it above all others for it to even display.. any suggestions?? i'm guessing it has somehting to do with going from dual monitors back to one while it was shutdown.. i checked the display settings and the other monitor is disabled... also when the pannel
12:56.35Conundrum2kcrashes if i run kicker, nothing happens
12:57.07cb400fkicker is some dead software from the distant past
12:57.25cb400fso it's expected nothing happens if you run kicker
12:58.25cb400fdunno what you can do about it.. other than nuke your plasma config
12:59.01cb400fthese days the panel is an integrated part of the plasma desktop
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12:59.38cb400funlike kicker and kdesktop in the distant past
13:00.03Conundrum2ki tried to delete all the plasma configs, but i think i did it wrong
13:00.06Conundrum2ki'll try that again
13:00.17cb400fyou need to do it while plasma is not running
13:00.25Conundrum2kahh ok
13:00.31Conundrum2ki can do that
13:00.41cb400fkquitapp plasma-desktop && rm .kde/share/config/plasma* && plasma-desktop &
13:01.06Conundrum2ki work as a linux sys admin, unfortunatly in my world that rarely means using x-window
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13:01.30Conundrum2kgreat, thanks cb400f
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13:07.58Conundrum2kis there anything i should do before changing the number of monitors on my computer??
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13:09.37cb400fprolly not.. might depend a bit on what gfxcard/driver is used.. and what tools you have used to configure multiple monitors
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13:10.26cb400fif you're using a free driver... and you have used the kde control center module (or xrandr) to configure the stuff, you shouldn't need to do anything
13:11.10cb400fif you have used tools from nvidia or amd/ati you might have an xorg.conf with funkyness in it
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13:15.00Conundrum2knope using the free driver.. cool ty
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13:17.44Conundrum2kgreat, thanks for all the help I appreciate it..
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13:35.05froodhey, I'm using fedora 16 and I've added an activity... but now I can't remove it! The cashew doesn't have a zoom-out option and I can't find a way of doing it in the system settings. Any ideas? Thanks
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13:36.27Peace-frood: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/07/plasma-desktopas1598.png  so... activitiess and .... http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/07/plasma-desktopgS1598.png
13:37.30froodAh I click the little square icon
13:37.33froodthanks!
13:38.23froodI didn't realise you could pause, start, remove the activities from the activities menu like that
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13:50.10BluesKajHowdy all
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14:04.18Bugsonis there some designer for kdevelop?
14:04.28Bugsonfor qt library?
14:05.22[Enrico]Bugson: iirc it can use the qt creator one
14:06.33Bugsonthx [Enrico]
14:07.05[Enrico]Bugson: i'm not sure, so check it :)
14:07.30TorchBugson: you can use qt-designer, which is the standalone designer application
14:07.44TorchBugson: have it create ui-files and use those in your cmake project in kdevelop
14:08.07BugsonTorch: great thx ;)
14:08.10TorchBugson: i'm not sure if there (still?) is some embedding option for qt-desginer being used. i never used it, it felt clumsy to me.
14:09.13BugsonTorch: from what I see there is no more qt-designer app, if you reffering to the plugin from kdevelop :/
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14:09.42[Enrico]Bugson: use qt-creator
14:09.47TorchBugson: it's possible the integrated plugin does not exist anymore, yes. but the standalone app is still there and IMHO preferable anyway.
14:10.08Bugsonthx guys, I'll look it up
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14:21.19edt_I use kmail2 on arch with kde 4.7.4 and maildirs.  It does not work well at all.  I am constantly getting duplicate messages, next message (+) toggles me through message when all messages show as read.  I have tried updating the folder and removeing dups.  New one quickly appear while tracking lkml.  I have disabled full text indexing on most folders (trying to index a large archive lkml oom my 8G box).
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14:22.45edt_I suspect I have corrupts databases.  How do I reset them?  Can it be done per maildir or is it global only?
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14:23.18edt_I get my mail via a pop server
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14:23.39edt_and would like to avoid having to run a local imap server just for kmail
14:24.39edt_It should be easy enough to duplicate this type of problem.  just track lkml getting mail from a pop server and save it in a maildir.  After a few weeks you should start to see problems.
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14:55.14coolstar-pcWhat is a good VNC server for KDE?
14:55.35cb400fkrfb is the only one, so...
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14:55.50cb400fof course noone is forcing you to use only kde software..
14:56.07cb400fexcept maybe yourself
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15:01.30wcmthe calculator widget only allows 4 digits to be entered, that is TERRIBLY broken, is there another calc widget?
15:01.55Torchwcm: use kcalc
15:02.02wcmtks
15:02.40wcmshouldnt kcalc replace the broken widget?
15:02.54Torchwcm: the plasmoid should be fixed.
15:02.55wcmjust an obvious though :)
15:02.57cb400fkcalc was there loooong beforethe widget
15:03.09wcmthought
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15:04.08kde_pepono, the bug has been fixed (288963).
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15:04.26wcmkde_pepo: will there be a yum update?
15:04.36kde_pepoask your distribution
15:04.37wcmor do widgets not get updates via yum
15:04.54wcmmine is fedora 16
15:04.55annmawcm: the bug is fixed
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15:05.17j13rhello
15:05.42j13rstupid question: How do I (re)name an activity. I can't rightclick or anything
15:06.03j13roh there is a little tool icon there
15:07.37EskimoBobHi, after update, my "Digital Clock / Calendar" widget started to display all sorts of events in the calendar. How can I turn this crap off? Its useless and clutters the calendar view. I unchecked "Display events" - nothing changed.
15:08.06coolstar-pcCan I use vinagre on kde?
15:09.02annmaEskimoBob: display events is for Kontact events
15:09.06cb400fthat's a vnc tool? .. don't see why not.. try it
15:09.14annmaEskimoBob: you need to disable the calendar in the list
15:09.45annmai.e. to set them to Not Used
15:09.46cb400fbut it appears to be a client... the kde vnc client is krdc
15:10.23EskimoBobannma: I think I have disabled everything that can be disabled :) but this junk refuses to go away. Can you be more specific? thanx
15:11.34cb400fin the digital clock settings -> calendar -> uncheck "show events"
15:11.48cb400fmaybe you need to restart plasma before it takes affect
15:11.50EskimoBobcb400f: done that
15:12.24annmain Digital Clock settings Calendar
15:12.29annmalook for you rlanguage
15:12.49annmacb400f: this is wrong, Events here referes to Kontact events, I changed this string for 4.8
15:13.12cb400fright
15:13.23annmaEskimoBob: in Calendar tab, you have a list of Languages
15:13.37EskimoBobannma: no I do not have
15:13.46annmaso what do you have?
15:14.08annmathe events are Holidays events
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15:15.46EskimoBobannma: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=20qx5kp&s=5
15:15.59EskimoBoband I can not select or deselect any of those calendars
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15:16.59EskimoBobannma: http://i44.tinypic.com/20qx5kp.jpg
15:19.04annmawhen you scroll to the right
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15:20.39annmayou don't have anything?
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15:22.28annmaEskimoBob: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/07/plasma-desktopM30195.png
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15:25.01EskimoBobthanx annma. I do feel like a idiot now :)
15:25.23EskimoBobcheers and thanx for your help
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15:54.55edt_Is there any way to disable full text indexing when using kmailcvt - it ooms or stalls with large folders.
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16:17.18tumaixMeeting about Akademy-LA in the #kde-brasil channel happening *right now*, if you are from the latin america and contribute to KDE, please, go there.
16:17.36edt_with 4.7.4 & arch/gentoo: Is there any way to disable full text indexing when using kmailcvt - it ooms or stalls with large folders.
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16:26.09rdieteredt_: temporarily (or not) disable nepomuk
16:26.35rdieter(if you're sure it's the indexing causing the problems)
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16:45.22edt_rdieter thanks
16:48.21edt_I am starting to __REALLY__ dislike kmail2 - here hoping 4.8 actually does fix some kmail bugs otherwise, after 10+ years, kmail is toast here.
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16:49.31edt_As it stands now I reset the akonadi db to try to get rid of duplicate messages (it did not work).  Now I have to reimport my kmail1 archives as it seems to have lost the old import...
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16:51.17edt_now to wait for akonadi agent to calm down - its doing 55M/s io with nepomuk/stringi disabled
16:51.33rdieteredt_: 4.8 is much nicer incrementally, in my own experience
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16:52.20edt_rdieter I hope so.  I know kmail2 was not 100% ready or I would have long ago given up on it...
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16:53.02edt_Anyone with large Mail dirs from kmail1 is going to have problems converting
16:54.31edt_Here with 8G it ooms, with frontswap/zcache enabled, which in effect doubles the memory, it still ooms.  This kmailcvt should default to doing the minimum it can (no indexing etc)
16:54.55edt_You can always turn on indexing after the fact - if it makes sense.
16:56.00edt_I think indexing lkml needs lots more smarts than nepo.. currently has
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16:58.05rdieteredt_: a nice 4.8 feature too is that nepomuk has separate toggles for file vs mail indexing (ie, can enable/disable each independently)
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17:08.26edt_rdieter that will be nice.  It would also be nice if kmail2 would respect the Retrieval/Use options for parent folder or account for the Maintenance/Enabling Full Text Index, instead of always enabling it.
17:09.30edt_almost every message moved into my lkml folder via filter is now duplicated
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17:48.02ksuhkuhello there!
17:48.29ksuhkuplease can you tell me whether kget is supposed to be able to throttle/limit downloads over http?
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18:34.52isemenovhello!
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18:35.03isemenov<PROTECTED>
18:35.46cb400fyou don't need to know their nicks to read their code.. it's publicly available in git
18:36.05cb400fthis iz free software
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18:36.54isemenovcb400f: I need to *understand* their code.
18:37.11cb400fthen join #plasma ;-)
18:37.14isemenovthat is, ask them, why they have written it that way.
18:37.21isemenovcb400f: I have, they don't know
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18:42.18rdI print a mail containing a very long URL in the text from kmail. kmail scales down the font that the URL fits in one line without wrapping. Does anybody know if I can change that?
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19:28.26goozllhello, i made a wifi adhoc network on windows and i was able to access it with another windows pc. however i'm failing to connect to it with my kubuntu computer. could someone help me please?
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19:37.54Peace-goozll: sudo apt-get install wicd-kde
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19:39.15Peace-jovin:  grub menu==> kernel recovery
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19:39.41jovinkeeps saying
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19:40.00Peace-oh
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19:42.56ksuhkuplease can you tell me whether kget is supposed to be able to throttle/limit downloads over http?
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19:48.35egwjovin: if you want help with irc password, try these support@freenode.net
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19:50.00jovinalready found help in #freenode
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21:15.27lineinthesandMy gtk font settings seem to be ignored. Evince always shows the same font for the menus, regardless of what I set in the kde systemsettings. Does anyone have an idea what could be going wrong/how to fix this?
21:16.44cb400fyou're prolly using gtk3 evince
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21:18.02lineinthesandcb400f, how can I find if that's the case?
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21:18.22cb400fcheck if your distro has gnome3
21:18.44cb400f.. which it will very likely have unless it's oooold (more than 1 year)
21:19.02lineinthesandIt has.
21:20.17cb400fcurrently the systemsettings thing only supports gtk2.. I believe a new thingy is being developed supporting gtk2+3
21:20.57lineinthesandcb400f, ok, thanks for the information!
21:21.13break19and as soon as it's done, gtk4 will be out. :)
21:21.18lineinthesandMaybe it'll be in 4.8?
21:22.15VergeIf it's "being developed" then no
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21:23.26lineinthesandOK.
21:23.42cb400fthe old one isn't part of kde sc either
21:25.17lineinthesandOh, ok…
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21:31.11cb400flineinthesand: http://www.proli.net/2012/01/02/new-year-new-life/
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21:49.11lineinthesandcb400f, thank you! That works!
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22:21.22edt_arch kde 4.7.4 kmail2
22:22.30edt_and the folder properties are set to disable full text indexing too...
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22:57.57coolstar-pcstalkerg: What a weird nick
22:59.11stalkergcoolstar-pc: hello, why weird?
22:59.27coolstar-pcstalkerg: Your nick has the word stalker in it
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23:02.30stalkergcoolstar-pc: I very like Arkady and Boris Strugatsky ^_^
23:03.31clashingwaveHello all, can anyone tell me where Rekonq stores user data, like bookmarks and history, I would like to back them up before doing a fresh install
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23:04.26cb400fshould be in .kde/share/apps/rekonq/  .. can't doublecheck right now
23:04.51cb400fand .kde/share/config/rekonqrc for the configuration
23:05.02cb400flike all other kde apps
23:05.40RiotingPacifistHi kde is asking for root password when it should be asking for a sudo password (distro is kubuntu but problem is when using kde only not general distro problem, i've already asked in kubuntu with no luck), are there known issues with kdesudo or any config files i should check
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23:07.25stalkergIMHO kde community need fork Qt... Nokia wants to drop QtGui!
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23:09.03RiotingPacifiststalkerg: why fork qt before it becomes an issue?
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23:13.13ZenoArrowHi, having trouble setting keyboard shortcuts in KDE (version 4.7 I think). I wanted to have a shortcut to open Konsole, but the checkbox for that shortcut option is not alllowing me to check it. Any advice?
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23:15.37stalkergRiotingPacifist: Qt5 have trouble... Qt font rendrings bugs for example. And very big bug it is QML!
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23:16.30ZenoArrowIf it helps, I'm using Fedora 16.
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23:19.12RiotingPacifiststalkerg: but it's a large administrative overhead to take on by the kde team, are they rejecting the fixes or just not making them themselves?
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