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00:23.51ShinkaI know that's a stupid question but sometime when I move my mouse, I don't actually know how I do it, but I get to see a preview of all currently active windows. This is cool! I would just like to know how to do it :P
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00:58.39mueslican i somehow sort by tagged / rated files in nepomuk? can i search for all file swith a specific tag?
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01:00.35x00xwhy does my shell start in ~/Documents in KDE?
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03:41.42ybitlooking for the dev channel...
03:41.54ybitgot it
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05:08.26daum_hey guys anyone been able to export their korganizer calendar to google? just looking to do a one time sync
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05:17.58gentoofanWhat package do I need to install on Windows to get Konsole?
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05:19.30mscoolnerdgentoofan: i may be wrong but I don't think there is a version of Konsole for windows...
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05:24.07gentoofanmscoolnerd: It is listed on the news page: http://windows.kde.org/news.php
05:24.15gentoofanmscoolnerd: I guess it isn't in the stable release yet. :/
05:25.54mscoolnerdah haha yeah probably because i was looking for it a couple weeks ago and i couldn't find it either :/
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09:28.18alban_Hi all
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09:29.00alban_actually I'd like to launch it from Razor-Qt
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10:41.15Marchitosi am testing kde 4.8 beta 2. Is it possible to use akonadi internal postgresql server?
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11:06.16soeehi
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11:07.15soeecan't open kwin but after click on icon kwin proccess uses ~ 40% cpu
11:07.32soeeso i had to kill it to be able tu use system  :/
11:08.09soeesorry not kwin but kmix
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12:13.48nanderssonHi, just read "Qt on Wayland" http://vignatti.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/qt-on-wayland-howto/
12:14.35nanderssonWith Qt, Wayland and support for multitouch in Fedora 17, wouldn't it be "easy" to make a Wayland-only-version of KDE?
12:14.54nanderssonI.e to get rid of X.org all together?
12:15.53nanderssonFor Plasma Active, at least to me, it seems like a no brainer?
12:17.01nanderssonBut I guess it is also a matter of Fedora 17 shipping with Qt 5, where the recent Wayland-patches are supplied.
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12:19.42thiagonandersson: no, it wouldn't
12:20.05thiagoa) Fedora 17 will come before Qt 5 is done, which is way before KDE with Qt 5 is done
12:20.13thiagob) KDE has a lot of X-specific code
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12:20.19thiagoc) kwin's port to Wayland isn't finished
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12:20.33thiagod) Wayland desktop support isn't done either
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12:21.26nanderssonthiago, Ah, okey, Thanks a lot for your input!
12:21.36thiagowe'll be working on it, but it won't be easy
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12:23.04nanderssonYeah, you are right.,I think KDE is the most suitable platform for Wayland as almost everything is build on Qt.
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12:40.48nettezzaumanahello
12:40.53nettezzaumanafast Q:
12:42.48nettezzaumanai have fine tuned kde 4.7.x (OBS - opensuse buildservice) and i can't find where to set up that all windows defaults to **all activities (eg they don't stick only with parent activity) .. and also i can't find a shortcut setting for switching activities
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13:03.16dorindoes anyone know how to connect to a ftp address through proxy with dolphin(using kde in archlinux)? google didn't help me...
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13:06.29cgriffdorin: In the shortcut box on the left (by default) right click and add an entry
13:06.36cgriffOh sorry, I didn't see via proxy
13:06.44dorinyep..
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13:07.40dorini think i did it once. but I don't remember how..
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13:09.48cgriffdorin: Right I think that I have found a solution, go to the KDE System Settings, then Network, then proxy and then setup
13:09.55thiagodorin: FTP over HTTP proxies is handled by the HTTP proxy itself
13:09.56cgriffNot sure of the exact wording as my locale isn't English
13:10.02thiagodorin: no other kinds of proxies are supported
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13:13.22shal3rIs it safe to rm -rf /var/tmp/kdecache-* ?
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13:13.57annmait is safe inthe sense yo uwon't distroy personal data
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13:14.27dorincgriff: I already did that, doesn't work. thiago: good to know. thx anyway
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13:21.09dorinbtw  worked with filezila(ftp via http proxy) but I like dolphin very much,  and would have been nice if it worked (cgriff: englisg isn't my native lang either)
13:21.38thiagodorin: it doesn't. FTP over HTTP proxies renders as a web page.
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13:23.41soeesomeone with desktop as folder view and some icons in it ?
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13:30.03dorinthiago: so it is posible that my proxy is also a ftp proxy?
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13:33.17dorinbecause in my filezilla configuration I have checked "http/1.1 using connect method"
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13:39.55thiagodorin: unlikely
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14:06.31soa2iiWhat's taking care og 5.1 sound output in KDE4? I have a 5.1 system connected to my soundcard and if I use speaker-test -c 6 I just get left and right. Music is coming from all speakers but in stereo and somehow devided (right channel seems to be on subwoofer and left not …)
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14:21.14destiwhen i use kwin --replace while already having kde and several programs running, will it work or crash kde?
14:21.43Torchdesti: should work and does indeed work for me
14:23.07destiok, when i quit it is not working :D
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14:30.35desticool, works fast and flawless :-)
14:31.48andrea_what is kwin???please
14:33.04annmakwin is the KDE window manager
14:34.06thiagoit was known as kwm in KDE 1
14:34.24destihas anyone ever tried to capture kwin with glc-capture?
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14:36.32aseigokfm, kwm .. tla's ftw :)
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14:44.19Leoneofkwin is very slow, it is just with me?
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14:47.24annmaLeoneof: elaborate please
14:47.35annmanew install? default settings?
14:47.50annmagraphic card? desktop effects?
14:48.33Leoneofannma: Debian 6.0.3 , kde 4.5 , cpu = 2G dual core, ram = 2G , vcard = 512mb
14:48.45destigpu?
14:48.52Leoneofnvidia
14:48.58destidrivers?
14:49.07Leoneofinstalled from nvidia website
14:49.20annmatry to google
14:49.28annmasome nvidia drivers are slow
14:49.53Leoneofoh
14:49.56destilatest drivers? and kde 4.5 is little old
14:50.08Leoneofyes latest driver
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14:51.40JackW1Leoneof: does X use a lot of cpu, mainly all of one core?  something i see at times with nvidia/kde
14:52.38JackW1note i don't use compositing, but there has been problems with compositing too on nvidia, maybe try alt-shift-f12 to turn it off
14:55.00destihttp://pastebin.com/9wNtRHtX any ideas?
14:55.40destinever enable all effects and performance should be fine with <5% cpu usage
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15:10.40LeoneofJackW1: i'm using gnome now, but i'm sure about xorg doesn't use a lot of cpu.
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15:13.35JackW1Leoneof: why are you asking in a kde channel if you use gnome??
15:14.12JackW1ah, you are using kwin with gnome?  well no idea about that to be honest...
15:14.23Leoneofbecause i want to use kde
15:14.26Leoneofnope
15:14.59Leoneofmetacity with gnome, or compiz which is faster than kwin.
15:15.21JackW1seems like a waste of our time...  if you wanna use kde, then install and start using it, before you ask for support
15:15.43Leoneofit is installed :)
15:15.53Leoneofthanks for your help
15:16.04JackW1well whatever :)
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15:41.20Sim0nwhttp://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=compound+interest+&a=*C.compound+interest-_*Formula.dflt-&a=FSelect_**PresentValueFutureValue-.PresentValueFutureValueDates.PresentValueFutureValueContinuous.PresentValueFutureValueContinuousDates.AnnuityFutureValueLumpsum.AnnuityPresentValueLumpsum.CompoundAnnualGrowthRate-&a=*FS-_**PresentValueFutureValue.FV-.*PresentValueFutureValue.PV-.*PresentValueFutureValue.i-.*PresentValueFutureValue.n--&f4=1&f=PresentValueFutureValu
15:41.28Sim0nLolz.
15:42.35pinotreeSim0n: and what does it have to do with kde?
15:42.47Leoneofcpp code in http link
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16:53.27kaan_dolphin frezees for a minute when I right click on files, any idea? This is what I get from terminal, http://pastie.org/3052345
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17:25.23jbwivguys, I have sound from everything on my system except amarok. amarok *used* to work, but no longer. It's not muted as far as I can tell. Any ideas what might be wrong? This is on ubuntu 11.10
17:26.15saviohay u install mp3 encoder for amarok
17:27.09jbwivsavio, yes
17:27.25jbwivsavio, it worked up until a few days ago. not sure what happened, but it suddenly stopped playing sound
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17:27.57saviotry staring it from terminal
17:28.11savioyou will get some usefull info
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17:29.50jbwivsavio, this is all I get:
17:29.57jbwivhttp://pastie.org/3053222
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17:35.00jbwivsavio, even tried blowing away ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok, but still no love
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17:42.44Teyrashi, is it possible to start kde without using kdm while remaining able to shut down/restart the computer from it?
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18:09.58Peace-hi
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18:11.37rindolfHi Peace-
18:13.01saviohi every1
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18:13.19Peace-goes to torture plasma
18:13.56tuxickmight burn your fingers then
18:14.14Peace-plasma-desktop :P
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18:17.18tuxick:)
18:18.43Sho_Peace-: but what did it ever do to you :'(
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18:58.29Marchitosmeans there is an embedded postgresql?
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19:01.32kaan_dolphin frezees for a minute when I right click on files, any idea? This is what I get from terminal,
19:01.34kaan_http://pastie.org/3052345
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19:04.01Peace-kaan_: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=2+3+4+QDBusObjectPath%3A+invalid+path+%22%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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19:10.01kaan_I couldn't find any helpful topic, all of them are either crashes or hanged logins
19:11.03kaan_looking for the other error...
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19:18.34kaan_I think it started happening after I removed all the wine crap manually
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19:25.35Muttleyhi there is someone who can help me in configuring a gmail account on kmail?
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19:25.42Muttleyplease
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19:27.31mscoolnerdMuttley: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-to-set-up-kmail-with-gmail-and-imap.html
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19:32.11Muttleymscoolnerd: thanks, i'll give a try
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19:39.40Muttleymscoolnerd: the guide you linked me it's old. the settings gui are changed.
19:40.04JackWkaan_: seems unlikely that removing wine would have anything to do with dolphin breaking..
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19:41.09JackWi suppose if you suspect you have removed any kde components, you could install kde again from your package manager
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19:42.07Muttleybut that's not the point... now they are more intuitive and it think i configured correctly the account, but kmail continues to stay at 0% in downloading the inbox mails, without giving an error message
19:43.07mscoolnerdMuttley: hm... does it time out after a while?
19:43.52Muttleyno... i let it work for more than 15 min.
19:44.20mscoolnerdhm.....
19:44.40Muttleyi expected to see some mails downloaded (i have not network issues)
19:45.06Muttleynow there is no more the distinction between imap and disconnected imap
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19:46.16mscoolnerdyeah... someone else might have to help you, im not that familiar with kmail sorry
19:46.49Muttleymscoolnerd: thanks for trying... happy holidays
19:47.21mscoolnerdhaha no problem, and happy holidays to you too
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21:13.24elkngwill Trinity be migrated to Qt4 ?
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21:13.51alienBOBelkng: trinity is not KDE
21:13.57alienBOBThis channel is #kde
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22:13.06Atlantic777Hi! Which one distro do you suggest me to try if I want to see most up to date kde? So, looking for binary distro which doesn't need to be set up, like Arch in example.
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22:17.16hacostaAtlantic777: you answered yourself ;)
22:17.17mscoolnerdAtlantic777: Arch is fun :P
22:18.56Atlantic777Naah, ok then... eta 2m 44s -> archlinux
22:20.05mscoolnerdAtlantic777: Archlinux has one of the best wiki's i've seen for any of the distros so if you need help you can usually find lots of information there
22:21.15Atlantic777mscoolnerd: tnx, but I'll have no problems with the arch. I was looking for something like Kubuntu but more up to date.
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23:03.39elkngwhen qt4 was released KDE was rewritten entirely to become KDE4.*, will KDE become KDE5.* after qt5 will be released ?
23:04.28svuorelaelkng: kdelibs will be split into pieces (keyword KDE Frameworks for googling). apps will be ported nice and fast, but might not change version numbers
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23:40.26petteygDoes KDE on Windows support Konsole, and if not, will it ever?
23:40.51number17does anybody know how to change the invidual icon of a certain program, i tryed changing it in /usr/share/applications but to no avail
23:45.39number17anybody?
23:46.32Fisiuuse menu editor
23:50.30number17that just changes them in the menu i think
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23:51.43Fisiuand where do You have your program?
23:51.43number17yep, just changes it in the menu
23:51.47number17in a dock
23:52.26Fisiuwhat kind of dock?
23:52.30number17docky
23:52.40Fisiucan't You rmb on this program?
23:53.18number17right clicking the icon in /use/share/applications and hitting properteries gives you the option to change it
23:53.36number17nope, docky doesn't support changing of icons it just uses the system
23:53.52number17i change it and then it updates the system and doesn't seem to change anything, reboot doesn't help either
23:54.42number17i made sure i have admin privilages as well
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