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| 02:52.48 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.7 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 03:13.09 | notslad | anyone have a good suggestion for a dark or grey-ish color scheme that is soft on the eyes but lets me read web pages that aren't explicit about their CSS? |
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| 03:13.39 | valan | just installed opensuse 12.1 with kde 4.7.2, can't find the option for alt+tab to cycle through windows only on the current screen, has it been removed or am i blind? |
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| 03:15.14 | notslad | valan: alt-tab works for me.. are you trying to change it? |
| 03:15.31 | valan | yes, it works, i am trying to change it |
| 03:15.59 | valan | i have 3 monitors, and by default alt+tab cycles through windows on all screens, which isn't effective |
| 03:16.49 | valan | the kde i had before (can't remember the version, 4.6 i think) provided an option for alt+tab to cycle through windows only on the active screen |
| 03:17.04 | valan | but i can't seem to find that option now |
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| 03:19.03 | notslad | valan: system settings -> window behavior -> task switcher |
| 03:19.14 | valan | the option isn't there |
| 03:19.21 | valan | it used to be in older kde versions |
| 03:19.43 | notslad | the "list windows" option doesn't have what you want? |
| 03:19.53 | valan | if that's supposed to be it, then it's broken |
| 03:20.24 | notslad | valan: I just installed 12.1 a couple days ago.. |
| 03:21.42 | notslad | under "List windows" I have an "All Desktops Grouped by Applications" option |
| 03:22.51 | valan | i can't tell a difference in functionality between all desktops or current desktop |
| 03:23.12 | valan | all options cause alt+tab to cycle through all windows on all of the three screens |
| 03:23.32 | valan | instead of only the windows on the current screen |
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| 03:25.01 | valan | ahh found it |
| 03:25.32 | valan | it was under focus, and i had to select "Separate screen focus" |
| 03:28.23 | notslad | valan: oh good :^) |
| 03:29.17 | notslad | I'm looking for a non-glaring and easy on the eyes theme for KDE.. any suggestions? |
| 03:29.35 | valan | not currently |
| 03:29.45 | valan | i can't remember the theme i used to use, and now i can't find it :( |
| 03:30.10 | valan | about to dig through my old kde configs looking for it |
| 03:30.34 | valan | on a side note, 100GB+ tarballs aren't fun to work with |
| 03:31.41 | notslad | valan: true that :^) |
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| 03:33.30 | notslad | valan: "tar tvzf <tarfile> | grep '.kde'; tar xvzf <tarfile> <file-you-want-extracted>" |
| 03:34.10 | valan | i started untarring it awhile ago, so i'll just hope it's done soon |
| 03:34.24 | valan | i need a lot out of there actually, it was my old home directory |
| 03:34.46 | valan | i didn't really think ahead when i just tarred up everything into one tarball heh |
| 03:39.02 | notslad | valan: I've been there.. likely to be there again in the future too :^) |
| 03:39.20 | notslad | valan: each time I tell myself.. "oh, I'll just sort through it later..." :^) |
| 03:41.25 | valan | hehe |
| 03:41.27 | valan | yep that's what i normally do too |
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| 03:45.17 | notslad | I just tried installing owncloud/mirall a little while ago.. there were at least three "one-click" buttons that wanted to add four (total) repositories to my repo list :^( |
| 03:46.38 | valan | heh gotta love that |
| 03:47.04 | notslad | I love the idea of getting owncloud accessible through the desktop directly, though.. |
| 03:48.51 | valan | owncloud looks interesting, haven't heard of it until now though |
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| 03:50.02 | notslad | owncloud is definately worth keeping your eye on. It's pretty usable now.. |
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| 03:50.44 | notslad | it's nice being able to host your own calendars/contacts/files/music/pictures |
| 03:51.18 | notslad | and.. it even has an openid plugin.. so if a site supports openid you can point it to your owncloud's URL and it will authenticate for you :^) |
| 03:52.10 | valan | i will be looking into owncloud in depth pretty soon, looks like something that could do me good |
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| 03:52.25 | valan | have yet to find an implementation of all that stuff i can agree with completely |
| 03:53.04 | notslad | owncloud still has some rough edges that they are ironing out.. but I really like the direction they are going |
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| 03:54.58 | valan | oh cool tar is done |
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| 03:59.10 | valan | found the color scheme i like, it's called gentle |
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| 04:02.45 | notslad | valan: hmm.. looks like it would handle the assumptions sloppy CSS designers throw at us in web pages pretty well :^) |
| 04:04.00 | valan | css doesn't bother it |
| 04:04.24 | valan | which is one thing i discovered with a lot of color schemes |
| 04:05.21 | notslad | valan: I tend to choose dark themes that use white or grey for the primary foreground text.. I keep stumbling across websites that have "invisible text" until I highlight it because they assumed either the font or the background color |
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| 04:06.41 | valan | ahh ok |
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| 07:09.23 | japa-fi | Hi. A question on Dolphin / KDE in general. DOlphin has double entries for my encrypted drives. See http://i43.tinypic.com/1zyfxxx.jpg |
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| 07:11.37 | japa-fi | In addition there is one partition already mapped to /dev/mapper thouigh I have not done anything to cause that. Ie, it's not in /etc/crypttab and I have not manually executed cryptsetup luksOpen.. |
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| 08:17.35 | maxou31 | Hello |
| 08:19.06 | maxou31 | I just would kwnow which system is used by dolphin to monitor change on a directory, inotify ? fam ? Stat etc... ? |
| 08:19.24 | maxou31 | and how to change this behaviour |
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| 10:28.08 | jns | Can anyone give me an explanation/workaround as to why krunner seems to insist on ignoring $DISPLAY ? |
| 10:28.59 | jns | any time i start up krunner it always starts on my left most monitor (have a multi-monitor xorg setup, separate screens) instead of the monitor i launched it on |
| 10:29.28 | jns | starting it from a terminal with $DISPLAY set to whatever monitor has no effect |
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| 10:32.06 | Sim0n_ | Hiya! Sorry if this is an obviouse question. But I just changed from 10 years of Gnome and tiling managers to KDE. |
| 10:32.09 | Sim0n_ | Ifs awesome. |
| 10:32.21 | Sim0n_ | But I cant seem to find any shortcut list for Kwin-tiling. |
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| 10:33.07 | Sim0n_ | Atm I know how to change focus between windows and move a window form the "slave" area to the "master" area. |
| 10:33.48 | Sim0n_ | Is there any other stuff I can do with it? |
| 10:34.21 | Sim0n_ | Like, for instance, when I open up a new program I would like it not to ocupy the whole screen just the "master" area, if that makes sense? |
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| 10:54.18 | Alex11223 | are there GCI mentors? (for translation tasks) |
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| 10:59.00 | Jucato | Alex11223: I was told #kde-soc |
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| 11:05.10 | boehmer | hello |
| 11:05.35 | boehmer | i am experiencing a bug in kontact which i cannot find in the bug trackers of kubuntu or kde |
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| 11:06.18 | boehmer | when using kontact for some minutes it suddenly becomes totally unresponsive to mouse/keyboard events until it asks for the IMAP password |
| 11:06.36 | boehmer | while the password dialog is open i can also use the mail compositor |
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| 11:40.18 | dape-at-work | hello guys, im just emerging kde on gentoo via kde-meta , im back to kde after few good years of gnome :) |
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| 12:41.22 | Aziroshin | I found a bug in kwin, but as always the crash handler complains about the report not being useful. |
| 12:42.12 | BarkingFish | Aziroshin: do you have a button underneath the backtrace to install missing debug packages? |
| 12:42.29 | Aziroshin | I kinda do have links that are providing me with information |
| 12:42.34 | Aziroshin | One link says the following |
| 12:42.56 | BarkingFish | usually the reports aren't useful because debug symbols are missing, with those installed, you will often find bug reports go up to 2 or 3 stars |
| 12:43.33 | BarkingFish | and if you can provide info on what you were doing and so on, anything you noticed for example, the better the report will be. |
| 12:43.46 | Zaister | How can I get nepomuk to do a full text search on a folder full of PDF files? Supposedly everything is indexed, but I can never get any results on a query |
| 12:44.34 | Aziroshin | I can do that, but the backtrace seems to be a problem. |
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| 12:45.18 | BarkingFish | Aziroshin: could you save a copy of the backtrace and paste it up somewhere, like pastebin.com for example? |
| 12:45.20 | Aziroshin | I have gentoo, and the page seems to be suggesting for me to basically set up a debugging system. o_O |
| 12:45.23 | Aziroshin | Sure. |
| 12:45.40 | BarkingFish | thanks :) |
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| 12:46.08 | neverendingo_ | BarkingFish: we have our own pastebin, see topic ;) |
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| 12:46.16 | Aziroshin | http://pastebin.com/wRn98khN |
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| 12:46.24 | Aziroshin | Too late. :p |
| 12:46.50 | BarkingFish | neverendingo_: sorry - i'll make note for the future. |
| 12:47.04 | BarkingFish | thanks Aziroshin |
| 12:47.26 | Aziroshin | It's happening when I am running a wine virtual desktop with Starcraft II inside, when setting a window specific kwin rule to window type "override type". |
| 12:47.32 | Aziroshin | kwin then crashes multiple times in a row. |
| 12:47.35 | BarkingFish | Aziroshin: you're missing a set of debug information |
| 12:47.55 | BarkingFish | where you see ?? in a backtrace, debug symbols for that package aren't installed |
| 12:48.05 | BarkingFish | one moment |
| 12:48.10 | Aziroshin | I see. |
| 12:48.15 | Aziroshin | I guess that would be pretty stupid. |
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| 12:54.12 | Aziroshin | I am starting to get the impression, that this system here won't generate useful kde bug reports for the time being. |
| 12:54.26 | Aziroshin | http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml |
| 12:54.32 | BarkingFish | apologies, I lost my connection |
| 12:54.54 | Aziroshin | That approach with debugging information stored somewhere else to not compromise performance sounds interesting, but it seems that I'd have to do an emerge world to change that. |
| 12:54.55 | BarkingFish | I was going to direct you to that, I was speaking with #gentoo since I'm not familiar with your distro |
| 12:55.18 | Aziroshin | Hah, yeah, I see. I kinda asked the same. XD |
| 12:55.23 | Jucato | (or #gentoo-kde in case they more specific instructions) |
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| 12:58.09 | Aziroshin | Should I send the report, by the way? I might be able to offer detailed descriptions how it happened, and it happens repeatedly. |
| 12:59.14 | BarkingFish | It may be wise to redo the system to get the debug sorted first, then when you've done that - the next time kwin goes down, you'll be ready for it. |
| 12:59.27 | BarkingFish | the bug report should have more detail in it once you do that |
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| 12:59.51 | Aziroshin | It might take a while until the system is reworked in such a way, though. I guess I'll have to drop the current report, then. |
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| 13:00.47 | Aziroshin | (There are other priorities for the system. It has not been updated in a while, and I'd like to degrade from "unstable" KDE to stable to decrease my chances for package manager failures, as I had only gone kde "unstable" to get 4.6.2, back then) |
| 13:01.47 | Aziroshin | After that, I might do other things such as re-emerge substantial parts of the system like libc. :) |
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| 13:03.32 | orogor | hi here |
| 13:03.43 | orogor | anyone knows why i d be missing my desktop icons ? |
| 13:04.06 | orogor | even real folder are missing on the desktop |
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| 13:05.03 | Aziroshin | orogor: My amateurial opinion on that would be that you might have switched "activities". |
| 13:05.15 | Aziroshin | To an "activity" without desktop icons. |
| 13:05.33 | orogor | i dont even know what an activity is |
| 13:05.43 | orogor | it s about 4 years i didn t used kde |
| 13:05.50 | Aziroshin | It's a kinda unintuitive name for desktop profiles, so to say |
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| 13:06.19 | Aziroshin | Well, at the top right I have this cashew menu button |
| 13:06.32 | Aziroshin | The corresponding menu should have a point named "Activities" |
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| 13:07.21 | Aziroshin | Humm, okay, that might not be it... I remember there was this settings dialog where you could choose between "activities" such as a icon desktop, news desktop, etc. |
| 13:07.26 | orogor | i can select desktop icons there, doesn t seems to change anything |
| 13:07.39 | Aziroshin | When did the icons go away? o: |
| 13:07.50 | orogor | there s add panel add widget, lock widget |
| 13:08.07 | orogor | this morning ? |
| 13:08.45 | orogor | as i said , first time i log in kde since last few years i used gnome before, that was untill i upgraded ubuntu and they forced unity onme |
| 13:08.49 | Aziroshin | Were these icons on the desktop, plainly, or inside some "panel" ontop of the desktop (that probably looked half-transparent or something)? |
| 13:08.58 | Aziroshin | Hah |
| 13:09.35 | Aziroshin | I updated my debian testing on my netbook from yesterday to today and ended up with something that might be gnome3. Now I can't even log in. |
| 13:10.27 | orogor | well in my home folder i have a desktop folder and then on that a few launchers and folders |
| 13:11.03 | Aziroshin | Now, if you create an activity, there should be "folder view" in the templates menu point. Folder views should be configurable for a certain folder. Let's see... |
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| 13:11.58 | Aziroshin | I've never really played around with them before... I got a completely new desktop with the new activity, with new virtual desktops. Interesting. XD |
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| 13:12.14 | Aziroshin | And a crapola of desktop icons I never realized were there. :p |
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| 13:12.30 | Aziroshin | (game installers (wine) hellooooo. xP) |
| 13:14.17 | Aziroshin | orogor: In case that doesn't work, you might add a "widget". Look for the Folder View or something similar. It allows the display of folders on the desktop directly. |
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| 13:14.33 | Aziroshin | Just in case. :p |
| 13:16.07 | BarkingFish | orogor: do you want all your desktop stuff to appear on your desktop? |
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| 13:16.37 | Aziroshin | I guess what he wants is the kde3 style desktop back. |
| 13:16.40 | Aziroshin | (regarding icons). |
| 13:17.02 | orogor | yes sounds logical no ? |
| 13:17.10 | BarkingFish | yes it does, and it's possible. |
| 13:17.38 | Aziroshin | Oh lol, I think I found out. xD |
| 13:17.43 | orogor | tried to play with widget and activities as he said .... i dont get it |
| 13:17.52 | Aziroshin | When in the icons activity, there is a "FOlder View" setting when right clicking on the desktop. |
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| 13:19.01 | Aziroshin | orogor: Or, in general: You right click on your desktop and choose Desktop settings. |
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| 13:19.05 | dim | hi |
| 13:19.05 | Aziroshin | Or, well, the point with the spanner-icon. |
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| 13:19.11 | Aziroshin | Them, there is a "layout" option |
| 13:19.13 | Aziroshin | HEllo :o |
| 13:19.18 | dim | I wonder what's the plasma/panel theme in use here: http://martys.typepad.com/blog/2011/11/the-great-features-of-kde-workspaces-and-applications-part-ii-klipper.html |
| 13:19.23 | Aziroshin | There, you would choose "Folder View" |
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| 13:19.45 | Aziroshin | And then, on the left "menu" with all the big icons, you would get new options, such as "location" (blue folder icon) |
| 13:19.57 | Aziroshin | There you would be able to configure the directory that is displayed on the desktop. |
| 13:20.06 | orogor | when i right click desktop and choose desktop settings when inside the dsktop icons activities ? |
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| 13:20.10 | Aziroshin | In case it's not choosing your desktop folder, just select thedesktop folder you want. |
| 13:20.23 | Aziroshin | Actually, it doesn't matter which activity. |
| 13:20.37 | Aziroshin | Just, in the desktop icons activity, folder view would be preselected. |
| 13:20.53 | Aziroshin | Sorry, as said, I have not played around really with this yet, which is why I have been figuring around a little. :p |
| 13:22.05 | orogor | there i can pick up the background and have a layout option which is right now set on desktop |
| 13:22.31 | Aziroshin | Change it to Folder view |
| 13:22.50 | orogor | i can choose grouping desktop newspaper and grid desktop there and thats all , no icon desktop |
| 13:23.03 | orogor | or folder view |
| 13:23.14 | Aziroshin | Uugh. |
| 13:23.20 | Aziroshin | What version is your kde? |
| 13:23.48 | Aziroshin | Go to "Help" in the K-Menu, then choose the "Help" menu and then "About KDE" |
| 13:23.55 | Aziroshin | Or System Settings, then the help menu. |
| 13:24.08 | Aziroshin | There is an array of KDE software which features this Help menu with the "About KDE" menu point. |
| 13:24.19 | Aziroshin | The version should be specified there. |
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| 13:24.57 | orogor | 4.7.2 |
| 13:25.10 | Aziroshin | That's pretty new. I have 4.6.2 - I doubt it just vanished. |
| 13:25.38 | Aziroshin | Maybe we'll go for a backup option for now, what I mentioned before, the widget way. |
| 13:25.44 | Aziroshin | But, who knows, maybe that's not there as well... |
| 13:26.10 | Aziroshin | When right clicking the desktop and choosing add widget |
| 13:26.16 | orogor | didn t found such a wwidget |
| 13:26.16 | Aziroshin | there is a search bar |
| 13:26.23 | Aziroshin | No folder view? |
| 13:26.29 | Aziroshin | Sigh. |
| 13:26.40 | Aziroshin | I guess that's the point when someone more knowledgable of KDE should chip in. |
| 13:26.44 | Aziroshin | maybe your kde install isn't complete. |
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| 13:27.23 | orogor | humm |
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| 13:28.04 | Aziroshin | I am not sure how modular plasma desktop is. I know of knoqueror that it can lack modules if they are not installed explicitely. |
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| 13:28.49 | Aziroshin | That might differ between distributions. |
| 13:28.55 | orogor | ubuntu here |
| 13:29.05 | Aziroshin | gentoo here. It's quite a difference. |
| 13:29.16 | Aziroshin | Especially in ragard to modularity. |
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| 13:29.37 | orogor | been runnign gentoo a few years |
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| 13:34.44 | Aziroshin | orogor: Well, I've started asking in #ubuntu. |
| 13:34.49 | Aziroshin | To me, that sounds like a packaging issue. |
| 13:35.11 | Jucato | #kubuntu perhaps |
| 13:35.24 | Jucato | might be an update problem |
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| 13:35.42 | Jucato | (either packages were not installed or there was a new update and you need to logout and log back in) |
| 13:36.08 | orogor | :/ |
| 13:36.13 | orogor | let s try |
| 13:36.28 | Aziroshin | Well, at least you know what to look for now. :) |
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| 13:39.33 | Aziroshin | I have to play around more with KDE. This colourful click0rz stuff can be fun. I might even discover useful stuff, like that with the virtual desktops and activities. |
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| 13:47.40 | nevyn | is there a specific channel for kde audio stuff? |
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| 13:50.44 | nevyn | apparently kmix segfaults if you start it against a soundcard with 100+ controls |
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| 13:55.14 | Aziroshin | My systemsettings window crashed. Now I can't reopen it. |
| 13:56.13 | annma | Aziroshin: try from Konsole to run 'systemsettings' |
| 13:56.23 | annma | without quotes, and see what happens |
| 13:56.46 | Aziroshin | It hangs. |
| 13:57.00 | edogawa_ | prolly some stale threads hanging around, Aziroshin |
| 13:57.02 | Aziroshin | I guess I'll look for dead systemsettings processes, then |
| 13:57.20 | edogawa_ | killall -9 systemsettings |
| 13:57.37 | Aziroshin | I just killed them using the system monitor :) |
| 13:57.40 | Aziroshin | Thanks, it did it. |
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| 13:58.16 | Aziroshin | Uugh. It doesn't let me re-enable my desktop effects. What was the shortcut again? |
| 13:58.21 | Aziroshin | They dropped when kwin crashed. |
| 13:58.32 | Aziroshin | Something with F12.. |
| 13:59.04 | narugawa | someone have some info about firefox in qt ? |
| 13:59.23 | Aziroshin | alt-shift-F12, let's try... |
| 13:59.34 | Aziroshin | narugawa: I researched on that a little recently |
| 13:59.38 | Aziroshin | It doesn't seem like there's anything |
| 13:59.44 | Aziroshin | The last project seems to be related to firefox 4 |
| 13:59.47 | Aziroshin | or even 2? I am not sure any more. |
| 14:00.14 | Aziroshin | It's a pity. GTK file dialogs are are outrageous. |
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| 14:01.46 | Aziroshin | Any way to override KDE not allowing me to enable desktop effects? |
| 14:02.37 | narugawa | thanks Aziroshin |
| 14:02.45 | narugawa | so u use rekonq ? |
| 14:03.21 | Aziroshin | At least I managed to make a window cover the kde panel by making it a "standalone menubar" |
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| 14:03.38 | Aziroshin | Uhm |
| 14:03.43 | Aziroshin | I don't. o_O |
| 14:03.47 | Aziroshin | But, right, rekonq... |
| 14:03.50 | Aziroshin | it exists. =D |
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| 14:03.54 | Aziroshin | I should have a look at, I guess. |
| 14:04.06 | Aziroshin | I am using a mix of firefox, chromium and konqueror. |
| 14:04.27 | Aziroshin | I have always been a konqueror fan. It's a pity they made Dolphin, instead of simply enhancing konqueror. |
| 14:04.37 | narugawa | Aziroshin apparently firefox 8 is in qt on chakra linux |
| 14:04.54 | Aziroshin | wtf o_O |
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| 14:05.49 | narugawa | just not very stable |
| 14:05.54 | narugawa | beacause of xulrunner |
| 14:05.58 | narugawa | because |
| 14:06.39 | narugawa | Aziroshin on opensuse too |
| 14:06.53 | narugawa | firefox-kde-opensuse |
| 14:08.05 | narugawa | but on opensuse need some gtk stuff :/ |
| 14:08.11 | narugawa | sorry for the bad info |
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| 14:08.18 | Aziroshin | So, no qt? o,o |
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| 14:08.27 | killown | I can't move windows between screens seems I am using krandr, do anyone know how to fix it? |
| 14:08.31 | saleem | hi |
| 14:08.43 | Aziroshin | Hello |
| 14:08.53 | saleem | is it possible to trace kwrite histroy? i had something saved on kwrite and it closed without being saved need to recover that document |
| 14:09.02 | valan | narugawa where do you see firefox-kde-opensuse? |
| 14:09.10 | saleem | kwrite crashed before i could save the document |
| 14:09.52 | narugawa | valan it's a package on chakra and archlinux |
| 14:10.05 | valan | firefox-kde-opensuse is a package on chakra and arch? |
| 14:10.11 | narugawa | yep |
| 14:10.21 | narugawa | wait i give you |
| 14:10.24 | narugawa | the link |
| 14:10.49 | narugawa | http://chakra-linux.org/ccr/packages.php?ID=1626 |
| 14:11.12 | valan | oh ok |
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| 14:11.49 | valan | where do you see anything that implies it needs qt? |
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| 14:13.39 | narugawa | http://www.chakra-project.org/packages/index.php?act=show&subdir=unstable/x86_64&sortby=name&file=firefox-qt-8.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz |
| 14:13.43 | narugawa | valan |
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| 14:15.08 | valan | firefox has had a qt port for a long time now, but firefox-kde-opensuse doesn't use kde as you said |
| 14:15.15 | valan | *doesn't use qt |
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| 14:22.54 | valan | i've not looked at the qt port for years though, i wonder if it's worthwhile to build it |
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| 14:26.21 | TheLemonMan | hello, the panel loses transparency if i put it at the bottom but not if i move it somewhere else |
| 14:26.38 | narugawa | valan i just discover qupzilla |
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| 14:26.42 | narugawa | it's very nice |
| 14:27.08 | valan | bleh webkit |
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| 14:50.08 | aboudreault | got it... it's in Input Devices. sorry |
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| 16:25.29 | benkevan | is there a way to make konsole open links by clicking? |
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| 16:29.54 | cb400f | do you consider right click, clicking? |
| 16:30.01 | cb400f | :-) |
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| 16:33.29 | benkevan | cb400f: right click + open link? not really :D |
| 16:33.38 | benkevan | either a single or double click on a link to auto open |
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| 16:53.04 | Guillem__ | How does KDE locale settings affect custom applications? I'm seeing that my sscanf are failing. |
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| 16:54.26 | Guillem__ | I don't know if it fails because it is a Qt app or because KDE locales affect to plain C apps. |
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| 17:09.19 | ntz__ | hello boys |
| 17:09.24 | ntz__ | i have nice bug but i won't report hence i don't have 12.1 yet ... easy to reproduce .. please someone to check and report .. |
| 17:09.28 | ntz__ | on intel gma 945 i can't click on bottom elements on site if the firefox is in fullscreen mode with hiding bottom panel |
| 17:09.31 | ntz__ | so the bottom pannel appears below ff window and the focus is stolen to firefox however the firefox window is clearly up |
| 17:11.26 | rindolf | ntz__: let me see. |
| 17:11.58 | ntz__ | rindolf: ha, you *perl rindolf ? |
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| 17:12.36 | rindolf | ntz__: cannot reproduce here. |
| 17:12.47 | rindolf | ntz__: clicking on bottom element in Firefox is fine. |
| 17:12.50 | rindolf | ntz__: KDE-4.7.x |
| 17:12.56 | rindolf | ntz__: on Mageia 2. |
| 17:13.02 | rindolf | ntz__: yes, I'm rindolf from #perl |
| 17:13.57 | ntz__ | rindolf: no prob .. pushing to my todolist ... this has some chance that i will deal with cuz i'm going to install suse 12.1 with kde 4.7 to my friend tonight |
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| 17:14.14 | rindolf | ntz__: ah. |
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| 17:15.09 | jeffspeff | how do i get my activity manager (i think that's what it's called, the menu that shows open windows in the bottom panel) added back? |
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| 17:15.35 | rindolf | jeffspeff: it's the taskbar. |
| 17:15.44 | rindolf | jeffspeff: you can add it using the cashew. |
| 17:16.04 | rindolf | jeffspeff: well, the task manager actually. |
| 17:16.23 | jeffspeff | rindolf, i'm a complete KDE newb, i hate the new gnome. so i'm switching... what is a cashew? lol |
| 17:16.38 | rindolf | jeffspeff: right click the panel. |
| 17:16.47 | jeffspeff | k |
| 17:16.55 | rindolf | jeffspeff: and choose "Unlock widgets" |
| 17:17.33 | jeffspeff | i only see 'lock widgets' so i'll assume that's already done |
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| 17:17.51 | rindolf | jeffspeff: OK, do you see this rounded button at the right of the panel? |
| 17:18.03 | jeffspeff | yes |
| 17:18.18 | rindolf | jeffspeff: click it and choose "Add Widgets" |
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| 17:21.47 | jeffspeff | rindolf, sweet, thanks |
| 17:21.52 | rindolf | jeffspeff: you're welcome. |
| 17:21.54 | jeffspeff | that was easy enough |
| 17:21.55 | rindolf | jeffspeff: welcome to KDE. |
| 17:22.15 | rindolf | jeffspeff: now you can lock the widgets, which I think will prevent it getting deleted by mistake (again). |
| 17:22.38 | jeffspeff | i think a lot of people will be switching... i haven't used *nix in a while, i loaded up and saw the gnome 3.x and wanted to shoot myself. lol |
| 17:23.57 | rindolf | jeffspeff: yes, I find GNOME 3.x even worse than I found GNOME 2.x. |
| 17:24.22 | rindolf | jeffspeff: I played a little with XFCE and LXDE, but recent KDE versions are shaping pretty nicely. |
| 17:25.22 | jeffspeff | kde looks a lot cleaner than it did way back when i first tried it. (back before redhat forked out fedora) |
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| 17:25.49 | rindolf | jeffspeff: ah. |
| 17:26.52 | rindolf | jeffspeff: which version was that back then? |
| 17:27.10 | jeffspeff | 1.0 ?? lol i don't remember |
| 17:27.17 | rindolf | jeffspeff: ah. |
| 17:27.38 | rindolf | jeffspeff: I recall many people switching to KDE after GNOME 2.x came out. |
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| 17:29.53 | rindolf | jeffspeff: one killer feature that keeps me in KDE is the different-wallpaper-per-virtual-workspace. |
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| 17:30.17 | jeffspeff | i haven't even gotten into all the tweaks yet |
| 17:30.23 | jeffspeff | that is pretty cool though |
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| 17:32.08 | Mogger | rindolf: personally I hate that fetaure, it makes no sense in the bigger picture :P |
| 17:32.44 | rindolf | Mogger: well, it's optional. |
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| 17:33.32 | Mogger | that's not a good reason to have a "bad" option |
| 17:34.02 | Mogger | but well, people asked for it and the devs listened, and I guess it's not that bad if you don't use the activities concept |
| 17:34.35 | Mogger | jeffspeff: welcome to kde. although a bit out-of-date, here are starting points for plasma desktop: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/HowTo |
| 17:34.49 | rindolf | Mogger: also, LXDE has lot of tiny (and not-so-tiny) annoyances. Things that don't work as they should (sometimes in gtk+ apps as well) |
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| 17:35.24 | Mogger | jeffspeff: the things that have changed most in recent versions is the activity stuff |
| 17:35.45 | Mogger | now you use the activity manager to e.g. rename activities |
| 17:36.01 | Mogger | rindolf: never tried LXDE |
| 17:36.12 | rindolf | Mogger: OK. |
| 17:36.21 | jeffspeff | i've seen a lot of buttons and things about that... is that to group things like 'development', 'media', 'web', etc? |
| 17:36.24 | rindolf | Mogger: it's useful sometimes. |
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| 17:37.48 | Mogger | jeffspeff: yep should be it |
| 17:38.11 | Mogger | jeffspeff: it's a way to order your computer activities |
| 17:39.20 | Mogger | jeffspeff: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma#Activities and http://chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Advanced_Plasma_Desktop_Features#Desktop_Activities |
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| 17:46.55 | ratte1 | hi all!tell me please- which packages are responsible for mounting? particularly interested mount in gwenview. |
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| 17:48.27 | ratte1 | mount of camera |
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| 17:53.15 | rdieter_work | ratte1: kio_kamera from kdegraphics, I believe |
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| 17:53.50 | rdieter_work | (and related kcm_kamera) |
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| 18:00.00 | kamilnadeem | hi |
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| 18:00.42 | kamilnadeem | is anyone here using KDE 4.7 able to connect his Android phone to his KDE compuer via MTP? |
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| 18:22.09 | ciscoftw | suggestions for rdesktop frontend? appears tsclient isnt supported on Fedora15 anymore :( |
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| 18:23.09 | benkevan | ciscoftw: which DE? |
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| 18:23.46 | rindolf | ciscoftw: what's wrong with http://www.rdesktop.org/ ? |
| 18:24.33 | ciscoftw | i want a gui |
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| 18:26.27 | benkevan | ciscoftw: but what desktop environment? |
| 18:26.31 | benkevan | ciscoftw: krdc is pretty nice |
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| 18:26.43 | ciscoftw | kde, via fc15 |
| 18:27.45 | benkevan | ciscoftw: krdc |
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| 18:28.28 | benkevan | just realized he was in #kde and not #fedora.. so I should have assumed you were using kde lmao.. but yes.. you can use krdc.. install via yum install krdc (if not installed) |
| 18:28.53 | ciscoftw | its installed, just a shitty rdp client... |
| 18:29.07 | ciscoftw | tsclient was so awesome, but not support in fc15 :( |
| 18:29.11 | benkevan | isn't that what you wanted? you wanted a gui rdp client? I think it's one of the better ones.. |
| 18:29.28 | ciscoftw | krdesktop's screen formatting is just horrible |
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| 18:29.52 | benkevan | i personally just launch rdesktop via cli.. so I'm happy either way :D |
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| 18:30.06 | benkevan | ciscoftw: or.. you can do openSUSE since it still support tsclient :D |
| 18:30.13 | ciscoftw | :) |
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| 18:31.50 | benkevan | ciscoftw: if you want to emulate tsclient, you can just save .desktop files for the conneciotn, and put them in a directory and access it via dolphin MIO |
| 18:31.53 | benkevan | IMO* |
| 18:32.09 | ciscoftw | ummm, thats a good suggestion |
| 18:32.37 | ratte1 | something I now can not understand what's what. tell who is in the GNOME and KDE are responsible for mounting the camera? when you connect it via USB, which packages it monitors, and point the camera file manager? |
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| 18:36.00 | Mogger | ratte1: afaik, solid with udev as backend (earlier versions used HAL) |
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| 18:36.16 | Mogger | but I'm not very knowledgable in this area so take that with a grain of salt |
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| 18:36.48 | blacktheme | Hi, I would like a black theme for my kde, with black (or very dark gray) colours for the backgrounds, and white (or very light gray) for the fonts. I have tried the default "Oxigen" with the "Obsidian Coast" colour scheme. It is ok, but I would like it to be more black and less gray. |
| 18:36.52 | blacktheme | For example, in kwrite I would like the document text to be completely white, and the background completely black (gray is ok for menus or widgets, but I would like them to be more dark). |
| 18:36.59 | blacktheme | Can you recommend me some theme and/or colour scheme? |
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| 18:38.28 | benkevan | blacktheme: something like http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/kde42darkjz9.jpg/ |
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| 18:39.03 | benkevan | blacktheme: have you checked out kde-look.org? |
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| 18:39.27 | ratte1 | Mogger: thanks. If so, then it will be harder :( |
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| 18:40.12 | blacktheme | benkevan: The example is very similar to the "Obsidian Coast" colour scheme ;) |
| 18:40.16 | Mogger | ratte1: what do you want to do? |
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| 18:40.34 | blacktheme | Yes, I have visited kde look, but there are so many themes... |
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| 18:41.15 | blacktheme | I will look a bit more in that page |
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| 18:44.19 | blacktheme | Also I have another question: After using a darks theme for some minutes, my eyes are relaxed since they have to support less light. But when I open firefox and visit some pages, nearly all pages have white background. Do you know of some firefox plugin to convert automatically pages into dark-background pages? |
| 18:44.40 | ratte1 | Mogger: all easy to mount the camera, but dolphin don't see camera. when was KDE all was simple :) |
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| 18:46.24 | Mogger | ratte1: maybe you need some udev rules or something like that, which distro? |
| 18:46.52 | Mogger | (the cameras I've tried worked without any problems on my computer) |
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| 18:47.54 | ratte1 | Mogger: maybe. distro- openSUSE 12.1 |
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| 18:49.14 | Mogger | hm, it should come with pre-defined rules afaik |
| 18:49.38 | Mogger | well, if you want to make it work, I think the best bet is to ask in the opensuse channel/forums |
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| 18:50.59 | ratte1 | Mogger: ok, thanks |
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| 18:59.21 | Uresu | Hi all, I am getting "Buggy authn provider failed to set user for /" and my google fu is weak :( |
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| 19:15.40 | ale_ | Hello, I have a problem with kmail. Anyone can help me? |
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| 19:22.14 | ale_ | I need to reset kmail |
| 19:22.16 | ale_ | Kmail I need to reset to its initial state, as if for the first time it starts. How do I? |
| 19:22.18 | ale_ | Sorry for my English |
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| 19:22.42 | PhilRod_ | ale_: rename ~/.kde/share/config/kmail2rc |
| 19:22.54 | PhilRod_ | (or kmailrc if you're using kmail 1.x) |
| 19:23.08 | PhilRod_ | then restart kmail |
| 19:24.02 | ale_ | ok now I'm trying |
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| 19:28.07 | flami | Hi, the midgration of kmail to kmail2 was a bit rough and now I am left with a stray "imap account 2" which I cannot seem to remove in kmails options. any ideas on how to get rid of that? |
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| 19:29.36 | ale_ | PhilRod_: no, kmail remember the older account |
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| 19:36.07 | PhilRod_ | ale_: hm, I don't know where else the settings are stored, sorry. You could look in ~/.kde/share/apps I suppose |
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| 19:36.50 | PhilRod_ | flami: I *think* the settings are stored in ~/.kde/share/config/kmail2rc, so you could try moving/renaming that, although that hasn't worked for ale_ here |
| 19:36.51 | jlt | hello |
| 19:36.57 | ale_ | PhilRod_: ok thank you anyway |
| 19:37.24 | jlt | Can someone please tell me how to remove a certificate from the kssl database? |
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| 19:38.10 | jlt | (I have a certificate in there that has recently changed. And now kmail2 reefuses to connect.) |
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| 19:39.00 | flami | PhilRod_: lemme try that then |
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| 19:39.08 | dr_rotflcopter | hi, does your linux kernel support HRT by default ? |
| 19:40.38 | flami | PhilRod_: nope renaming doesnt remove anything. the only thing that pops up is taht it now wants me to enter an account |
| 19:41.29 | PhilRod_ | flami: oh, hm. sorry - I could have sworn the mail accounts used to be stored there. I guess this has changed with akonadi |
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| 19:42.24 | PhilRod_ | flami: ale_: hm, so looking in akonadiconsole I see an "agent" for my mail account - maybe looking there helps? |
| 19:42.54 | flami | nope the stray imap account doesnt seem to be in there either |
| 19:43.23 | PhilRod_ | that's very strange |
| 19:43.34 | PhilRod_ | although I'm out of ideas, I'm afraid |
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| 20:07.35 | MarcoPau | hi, I can't disable the little windows popping up when moving the mouse on top of the icons on the panel. do you have any hint? |
| 20:09.03 | gdebure | MarcoPau: right click on an empty area in the panel |
| 20:09.15 | gdebure | configure task manager |
| 20:09.31 | gdebure | unselect "display tooltips" :) |
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| 20:10.01 | gdebure | and apply, of course |
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| 20:11.04 | MarcoPau | gdebure: thaaaanks :-) |
| 20:11.16 | gdebure | MarcoPau: np |
| 20:12.09 | MarcoPau | also, I used to have a feature that allowed me to drag the windows thru the virtual desktops with the mouse. do you know where to enable that one? |
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| 20:13.17 | gdebure | I use ctrl+F8 |
| 20:13.30 | gdebure | that will display the grid of desktops |
| 20:13.46 | gdebure | you can drag windows across desktops from there |
| 20:14.23 | gdebure | loves this feature, by the way |
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| 20:15.16 | Lars_G | Question, if I want to change the shutdown sounds on kde 4 via cli what is the config file that holds that setting? |
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| 20:19.10 | MarcoPau | gdebure: didn't know that, nice tho |
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| 20:20.31 | jedix | hey |
| 20:20.31 | jedix | how do I make copy/paste like windows in kde? |
| 20:20.31 | jedix | I really don't know how windows does it, but my SO wants it that way |
| 20:20.31 | jedix | I would think there is no selection? |
| 20:21.32 | gdebure | jedix: I have no idea what you're talking about... is there a specific copy / paste in windows ? |
| 20:21.40 | jedix | no |
| 20:21.47 | jedix | but if you select something, it's not copied |
| 20:22.03 | jedix | you actually have to press ctrl+c, or right click to copy |
| 20:22.30 | cb400f | in the klipper settings you can select if you want selection and clipboard to be synced |
| 20:22.32 | gdebure | jedix: can't you do the same in KDE ? |
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| 20:22.42 | jedix | gdebure: I don't know, that's why I'm here. |
| 20:23.22 | gdebure | jedix: well, this is of course working like this also in KDE (or Gnome, or XFCE, or...) |
| 20:23.42 | gdebure | additionally, most X11 based system offer something even better |
| 20:23.57 | gdebure | select with the mouse, middle click elsewhere |
| 20:24.14 | jedix | "even better" is different and thus not understood and thus upsetting when an email disappears for an unknown key combination |
| 20:24.16 | gdebure | the middle click will copy what was previously selected |
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| 20:24.34 | gdebure | then follow cb400f suggestion |
| 20:25.02 | jedix | yeah, I'll try that. |
| 20:25.19 | jedix | I think I need to talk to her more to find out exactly what she did to cause things to disappear |
| 20:25.29 | jedix | they were in klipper so I could restore them |
| 20:25.31 | jedix | which was good |
| 20:25.51 | jedix | but I have no idea what she did to make an entire email get copied and then removed |
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| 20:27.02 | gdebure | what about ctrl+z in such situation ? |
| 20:27.02 | Mogger | copied - probably because the text was selected |
| 20:27.10 | Mogger | removed - hit some other key? |
| 20:27.31 | jedix | it certainly would have had to be copied by selection |
| 20:27.36 | flami | Huh... these akonadi resources in kmail are really hard to remove. I deleted all configs that remotely looked like kmail or akonadi, and still nothing at all changed. also I got mysql runing like crazy in the background now. So maybe that "imap account2" is a stray table in it? |
| 20:27.55 | jedix | I think what might have happened is that she was moving it or something and accidently selected something which caused the buffer to be overwritten by what she selected |
| 20:28.21 | jedix | so then it pasted a whitespace or some other less than useful info |
| 20:28.31 | flami | where are these tables saved? |
| 20:28.35 | jedix | I'll try cb400f's suggestion |
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| 20:29.28 | jedix | akonadi filled my disk again on my laptop and drained the battery in kubuntu when it wrote a disk filling .xorg-errors file, I've disabled it on most of my machines |
| 20:30.42 | cb400f | flami: prolly ~/.config/akonadi/ |
| 20:31.00 | Lars_G | Question, if I want to change the shutdown sounds on kde 4 via cli what is the config file that holds that setting? |
| 20:31.17 | Mogger | jedix: oh, that's a pet peeve I have with klipper - copying whitespace |
| 20:31.28 | Mogger | afaik there used to be an option to prevent this but not sure what happened to it.. |
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| 20:33.18 | jedix | Mogger: yeah, I recall that option and can't find it either |
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| 20:33.51 | flami | well I just trashed .config/akonadi , and still nothing changed . |
| 20:34.05 | flami | Soo the mysql tables are most likely not there. |
| 20:36.11 | flami | yay lsof ... looks like its all in .local/share |
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| 20:37.51 | flami | yes deleing ~/.local/share/akonadi seems to delete all the tables ( taht contain the stray imap accounts ) |
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| 20:41.32 | gdebure | Lars_G: tried to look for it with no success |
| 20:42.01 | gdebure | tried to ls and grep for KDE-Sys-Log-In-Short.ogg |
| 20:42.12 | gdebure | no luck :( |
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| 20:48.53 | gdebure | Lars_G: sorry have been disconnected for some unknown reason |
| 20:48.59 | gdebure | anyway, found your file :) |
| 20:49.18 | gdebure | ~/.kde4/share/config/kde.notifyrc |
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| 20:59.52 | Lars_G | gdebure: I haven't found it either. |
| 20:59.53 | Lars_G | thanks |
| 21:00.29 | gdebure | Lars_G: well it seems the file only appears when you make a change in systemsettings first |
| 21:00.44 | gdebure | if you just use the defaults, it won't exist |
| 21:00.52 | benkevan | ladi da |
| 21:01.20 | Lars_G | hmmm ok |
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| 21:44.15 | dr_rotflcopter | would some of you guys check this for me on your linux box? thank you. grep -Eio 'now at.*|\.resolution:.*|event_handler:.*' /proc/timer_list | sort -u | tr "\n" "," |
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| 22:02.22 | Aziroshin | Okay. Standalone menubar obviously didnt help. |
| 22:02.32 | Aziroshin | That was just kwin malfunctioning after the crash.l |
| 22:02.41 | Aziroshin | (by just not matching ,I didn't take a close look. Sigh) |
| 22:03.01 | Aziroshin | How to fake fullscreen without making use of the fullscreen function? That's the question. |
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| 22:08.56 | ntz__ | https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591778 |
| 22:08.58 | ntz__ | ^^ bon apetit |
| 22:09.29 | Wubbbi | Hey folks. I have a question. Do you know if there is a plasmoid which allerts me every time a commit has been made to a special git branch? Do you know if something like that exists? |
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| 23:03.24 | N9NU | new nV drivers |
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| 23:19.27 | hanasaki | where are the settings that control what application opens a jpg from the desktop? |
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| 23:23.31 | manutortosa | kcmshell4 filetypes |
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| 23:31.22 | yhager | I have a dual display, and KDE apps menus don't show on the secondary display, only on the primary (I'm not using KDE as my window manager, just KDE apps) |
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| 23:32.27 | yhager | Not sure if it's a KDE or xmonad issue |
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