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00:26.02Gentoochildhi. Are there any mutt users here? I’ve got a question regarding running mutt within Konsole
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00:43.43GungaDinany ideas how to set a new downloaded theme?
00:45.42JucatoGungaDin: depends on what kind of theme it is.
00:45.50GungaDinmeaning?
00:46.30Jucatomeaning there are different ways to install a "theme" and I can't really help unless I know what kind of a theme it is
00:46.46Jucatothere are widget styles, window decorations, themes for window decorations, plasma/desktop themes, etc.
00:48.16pinotree(... icon themes, emoticon themes, login splash screen themes, kdm themes, etc)
00:48.45Jucatosomewhat misses kde theme manager ... but oh well
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00:58.42GungaDinJucato: it's a desktop theme
00:59.59JucatoI'm just going to presume that means it's a "plasma" theme: go to System Settings -> Workspace Appearance -> Desktop Theme ...
01:00.06Jucatohm ... there's not Install from File? O.o
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01:02.29GungaDinI downloaded a new theme.
01:02.39GungaDinfrom "Get new Themes"
01:02.51GungaDinHow do I install that?
01:02.55GungaDinthat's all I need to know.
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01:06.50Jucatothen it should already be in that list and you can select it and hit Apply. Desktop Themes only affect things like desktop widgets and the panel
01:07.08GungaDinwell, it's not.
01:07.22GungaDinit indicates it's installed. but it's not in the list.
01:08.04Jucatohm .. that might be a problem with that particular theme then. does the same thing happen with any other theme?
01:08.13Jucatoum sorry I have to go now. sorry couldn't help
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01:22.10sandsmarkanyone know what's up with the window header here?: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/11/10/plasma-desktopO11523.jpg
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01:32.44ircdeariaI am using xmonad, not kde.  I started a kde application a couple days ago (and have since closed it), but it seemed to have started some sound configurations and now when I try to use mplayer to play music/video, no sound
01:32.57ircdeariaHow can I cleanly close all kde apps without killing them?
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01:34.23ircdeariaI am not sure if all of these are related, running processes: /usr/libexec/gam_server, kdeinit4, klauncher [kdeinit[ --ffd=8, kded4 [kdeinit], /usr/bin/knotify4
01:34.35ircdeariaI am only uncertain about the first one, gam_server
01:35.08ircdeariaah, nm, it seems to belong to app-admin/gam-server
01:35.12ircdeariaor app-admin/gamin
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01:36.17ircdeariakilling only a single process: /usr/bin/knotify4 seems to have fixed the sound issue.
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01:43.32Steve132Hey, does anyone know the status of windows builds of kde software?
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01:54.29Steve132Is kdevelop ever coming to windows?
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01:57.14sandsmarkSteve132: windows.kde.org
01:57.27Steve132Yeah, thats not exactly helpful
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01:57.57Steve132Been there, downloaded it, KDevelop /says/ that it works as a windows IDE, but the KWin project doesn't include it in their installer and never has
01:58.26Steve132So my question is "Is there another pathway?  If not, will it ever be supported?"
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02:10.42johnnyrobohello
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02:12.05johnnyroboAnyone willing to help me get my wireless card working?
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02:13.36GungaDinso does anyone know how to install new themes in Kde?
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02:18.58johnnyroboAnyone willing to help me get my wireless card working?
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03:06.12johnnyroboI have a Pro/Wireless 2200BG wireless card that keeps dropping my signal every 5 min. I have a Toshiba Satellite A105. I have the most current driver installed for the card. I have tried ajusting the MTU and it does not help. Any helpful hints or suggestions?
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03:17.56mystica555johnnyrobo: what sort of router do you have?
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06:34.20RingtailedFoxhiya, guys... i'm having some issues with getting kaffeine to work with my TV tuner card (WinTV HVR-1600, ATSC)
06:34.33RingtailedFoxit keeps saying "no device found" but i have the appropriate firmware in /lib/firmware
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08:25.08greenithi, is there anybody on / available?
08:25.37greenitoh, sry^^  now the userlist is here^^
08:26.46greenithow can i switch to another desktop? in gnome it was CTRL+ALT+<-- / -->
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08:32.03anoopGot a problem with KDE Menu Editor. A new item added has gone hidden and not shown in Application Launcher
08:32.09anoopwired :-(
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08:41.45greenitanoop: i think u mean weird^^
08:41.58greenitanoop: however, sry, i can't help u
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09:00.49Timiianoop: if I remember correctly that is bug in KDE menu editor I can try to search it for you. There was workaround for it...
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09:03.47anoopTimii: I am searching bugs.kde.org, But didnt find anything similar yet.
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09:04.31anoopgreenit: yes it was a typo, Thanks :)
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09:08.36anoopgot it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283658
09:09.04TimiiYep that was the bug what I was thinking
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09:12.05anoopQaD workaround, check the "Only Show in KDE" checkbox :-)
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10:14.38gribouilleis it possible to integrate kmail and procmail?
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10:21.22gribouilleis it possible to integrate kmail and procmail?
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10:22.48RingtailedFoxi'm having some issues with kaffeine... is this the place for that?
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10:24.53AmmlerRingtailedFox: you can try, you could also try your distro channel
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11:22.38DroidAgentHi. Can I move a kicker/panel from my left screen to my right screen?
11:22.45DroidAgentOr do I have to add a new one?
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11:30.57szalDroidAgent: well, what?  the Kicker or the panel?
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11:34.06DroidAgentThe kicker
11:34.18DroidAgentBut that's just another panel isn't it? :)
11:35.04szalno, the Kicker is just the start menu
11:35.38szalso what exactly do you want?
11:36.43pinotree"kicker" is the panel application in kde up to kde3
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11:43.29szalpinotree: well, standard menu in KDE4 is Kickoff, but isn't there a Kicker-lookalike for KDE4?  (I believe I saw one in one distro but can't remember which)
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11:58.55pinotreeszal: kicker was not a menu in kde3, so there's no kicker-lookalike
11:59.06RingtailedFoxi just tried the 2011 live CD (the one that fails to install properly), and it doesn't ship with the nvidia driver... i installed kaffeine on its own, and it played with my TV tuner card... HOWEVER... i tried that (nouveau and cx18) in my install of 2011 (upgraded from 2010.2), and it did NOT work.  how do i get my ATSC TV tuner (WinTV HVR-1600) to work again?
11:59.22RingtailedFoxmy OS is mandriva linux 2011 x86_64 (upgraded from 2010.2)
12:00.12pinotreeRingtailedFox: it sounds like you should better ask in a mandriva channel
12:00.17RingtailedFoxi did
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12:00.41RingtailedFoxi still wonder if it's a kaffeine issue, though, as i use kaffeine to watch TV
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12:03.38RingtailedFoxwhat other programs exist that allow me to watch television on my TV tuner?
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12:20.02ZombieRingtailedFox: tvtime
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12:20.41RingtailedFoxcan you help me set that up?
12:20.57RingtailedFoxand does it handle ATSC Digital Television?  all the stations here switched from analog to digital in august
12:20.59ZombieRingtailedFox: Not really, just urpmi tvtime
12:21.07ZombieI know that.
12:21.07RingtailedFoxi know how to isntall it
12:21.24ZombieIt's braindead simple last time I looked
12:21.45RingtailedFoxhm, it insists on accessing /dev/video0 (my video card) and won't let me change it
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12:38.45FlashDeluxehi @all! i still got the problem that the windows i open on a second screen (plugged into my notebook) are not shown, i see the program on my taskbar and if i right-click on the button and choose keep above others, it appears :( does anybody got any suggestions on it?
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12:56.28lechucknetHi guys, im having some errors while starting kde
12:56.36lechucknethere is the crash http://pastebin.com/QfQ96L3N
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13:11.03krikohello! is kopete still on svn repo? are those steps to get it up-to-date?
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13:15.14mase_x200kriko: i don't think kopete is really actively maintained anymore. i could be wrong but i think most of the development effort has been moved to telepathy
13:15.33krikooh ok
13:15.42krikoI was wondering since MSN is broken
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13:21.10france1159hello everyone i use KDE 4.7.2 on Fedora 16 and when i try to add an entry to KDE menu it doesn't work.
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13:21.51france1159i open menu editor, i add an entry, i click on save and next nothing in the kde menu.
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13:24.12Jucatocan you try running the command "kbuildsycoca4" (ignore any errors you get in the terminal) and check again? (not 100% sure it will work but most of the time it does)
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13:25.19edogawafrance1159: also you can look in ~/.local/share/applications/ if the according .desktop file got created
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13:37.13france1159edogawa: yes i've got this file created.
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13:38.16edogawafrance1159: then in fact run kbuildsycoca4 and it should show up after a while
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13:39.41france1159edogawa: it's done but i get this message :  kbuildsycoca4(27560) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry text/html in "/home/france1159/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon).
13:39.49france1159That's not a problem ?
13:39.51hamidjust for the sake of knowing is there any plane for kde and c++11 togather?
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13:42.15edogawafrance1159: that may be a problem but unrelated to your problem
13:43.06edogawafrance1159: or did your menu entry care for text/html mimetypes?
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14:24.02NJLhas anyone considered the possibility of a plasma widget kinda like the facebook one, but allows any webpage?
14:24.05NJLor does this exist?
14:24.54Gremnonthink there's a webslice widget that might do what you want, try it or see if it's in your distro's packages if it isn't in the applet list
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14:27.02Jucatothere's also a web browser widget
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14:36.13NJLJucato: hmm I'll see if that'll do what I'm wanting
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14:44.00NJLnow, I'm wondering if there's any way to get konq to do kind of a webapp mode, where external links are opened in a separate browser rather than in the same window
14:44.14NJLlike mozilla's prism or chrome's app mode kinda sorta
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14:46.59artzzzhi all. I am having a weird problem. I am on archlinux, running kde now, but previously I had installed gnome
14:47.24artzzzthe point is that I can see, sometimes, that gnome is like running on the backround (I see gnome's background + the icons)
14:47.33artzzzany idea about this?
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14:50.56pinotreeartz: kill nautilus?
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14:52.22artzI am wondering why it gets started by default
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14:56.31japa-fiHi. Running KDE plasma with F16. Question: as I now have stuff on my desktop (files, etc) and having mouse on them, there is a small plus sign at top left. If I click, it's minus sign. What's the fucntion of that?
14:57.27Sho_japa-fi: selecting
14:59.11japa-fiAh, I see
14:59.16japa-fithanks
15:00.01japa-fiI still need to unleard double click..
15:00.07japa-fiunlearn
15:01.16Jucatowhy?
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15:02.07japa-fiI always double click everything when browising with dolphin (or desktop) and get two instances of the document opened
15:02.40anoopjapa-fi: you can change it in system settings
15:03.18anoopchange single click to double click to open items
15:03.42Jucatoyep
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15:05.17JucatoSystem Settings -> Input Devices -> Mouse
15:05.19japa-fichanged..
15:05.51anoopjapa-fi: But only if you seems it's utter necessory, if you plan to stay more on plasma, keep it as it is and you will get used to it shortly
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15:05.56anoop:-)
15:06.12japa-fiyeah, perhaps I'll try to unlearn..
15:06.28japa-fiWith gnome3/unity etc. KDE now seems the way I want to go
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16:54.29Nightroseheya folks
16:54.42Nightrosekde got accepted for google code-in 2011 \o/
16:55.00Nightroseif you are the right age or your kids are please consider participating
16:55.03Nightrosehttp://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2011/11/10/kde-is-part-of-google-code-in-2011/ has more info
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17:14.37FlashDeluxehi! in which file are the workspace-settings stored? can somebody tell me plz?
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17:16.27rdieterFlashDeluxe: under ~/.kde/share/config/ somewhere generally, but it's not all in one file
17:17.15FlashDeluxerdieter: yeah, i am in this dir, but i cannot find it :(
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17:17.39rdieterFlashDeluxe: what particular setting are you looking for?
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17:18.24FlashDeluxerdieter: the "layout" setting
17:18.54rdieterFlashDeluxe: can you be more specific?  where/how do you see or set that?
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17:19.27rdieterwouldn't hurt to mention what version of kde you're using here too
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17:20.12FlashDeluxerdieter: if you right-click on your desktop and go into the workspace settings, the first entry is layout and by default "workspace" is set, i want to set "folder-view" (my settings are named in german, so i hope i translated it correctly)
17:20.49FlashDeluxerdieter: my system is up to date, so i am using the current versions
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17:21.31FlashDeluxeKDE: 4.6.4 (4.6.4)
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17:22.48rdieterFlashDeluxe: ok, I'd guess plasma-desktop-appletsrc
17:22.50molekdehello, i am running latest kubuntu and i need to have kde rebuild my menus cause it has a bunch of stuff missing... quick googling hasn't found the answer... any one know how to do this?
17:23.17rdieterFlashDeluxe: look for a [Containments] section that has plugin=folderview
17:23.53rdieterI doubt you'll be able to implement that by editing the rc file directly though, without setting in the UI (but I'd love to be wrong)
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17:28.51FlashDeluxerdieter: thanks! it works for me :)
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17:35.41buntstiftis it possible to setup a shortcut for pasting the current clipboard? (what you're normally doing with the middle mouse button)
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17:41.19CaterpillarI am looking for Lamarque V Souza, is he here?
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17:49.05thiagoCaterpillar: not now
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17:49.33CaterpillarI need to open a new clone of https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246585
17:50.22annmaa new report
17:50.32annmaapparently
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18:12.49japa-fiHow I set the default programs for different files? for example what application will be set to open jpegs.
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18:15.07molekdep.s. kbuildsycoca4 -incremental <---- found my answer
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18:48.12TheTrashHi. I accidentally removed a panel (I hooked up a new screen and I suddenly had 2 instances of the same panel but when I removed one, the other disappeared as well), is there any way to get this panel and its configuration back?
18:48.24TheTrashIt's my kicker and I spent some time customizing it.
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18:55.31rdieterTheTrash: short of restoring your ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc from a backup, I don't think so
18:55.43TheTrashOh, that's unfortunate.
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19:07.50vipHello there, where I can find kopete sources?
19:08.02vipGit repo or something like this
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19:08.59annmakopete is still in kde svn with all kdenetwork
19:09.05annmawhy do you want the source
19:09.49vipI'm fed up with connection error dialog, from one of the protocols
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19:10.09annmaso you want to fix it?
19:10.14pinotreemsn?
19:10.21vipannma: ged rid of it
19:10.25vippinotree: gadu-gadu
19:10.28pinotreek
19:11.08annmaso you need to get kdenetwork from KDE svn
19:11.35annmathen you run cmake with the proper arguments in kdenetwork/build
19:11.35vipor from tarball, but I prefer git/svn to check if it is already fixed
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19:11.44annmathere's no git, it's svn
19:11.52annmaread what I wrote above
19:11.55toskyI've seen an email today in the kopete-devel mailing list which suggest to update libmsn
19:12.01vipannma: yes, I know
19:12.11annmaOK vip if you know
19:12.19vipannma: saying git/svn i ment "repository"
19:12.20toskyyou don't need to recompile kopete for the msn change
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19:13.05toskyor was it kde-devel? mhh...
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19:15.09toskyyes: http://osdir.com/ml/kopete-devel/2011-11/msg00007.html
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19:24.07vipagh, just wanted to say annma thank you
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20:08.08chxis there a way to zoom one window only? It's a java app, i have an insanely high (200dpi) monitor and it's unreadable.
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20:09.21kdepepochx, what monitor is this? 200 dpi doesn't sound affordable :)
20:09.54nicklas_hi, anyone knows if theres anything like awn for kde?
20:10.05chxit's now affordable, it's old as my boots, it's an IBM T221, they stopped making them six years ago
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20:10.31kdepepoah, that one
20:11.09chxhowever, it's IBM and not exactly made to consumer standards only, you should see the thing, the AC adapter is literally a brick, I think it's heavier than the Big Bertha itself :D
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20:11.30chxand i do not see many monitors with built in fans either :)
20:13.19chxUsually i can get by pretty well, there are some problems like Chromium doesnt recognize the DPI setting and so the the bookmark bar is really small but that's just good for real estate. this app, OTOH is unusable.
20:13.20mystica555depends on what you call affordable
20:13.20mystica555lol
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20:14.19chxA Dell U2711 is (a lot) more than this one, so it's affordable :)
20:14.27pedahzurSo, Kopete 1.1.2 is not connecting to MSN any more.  I found this bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262224 but it is for an old version. And I had been connecting to MSN just fine up until recently.
20:14.39chxI bought it straight from Japan, if you try eBay, that's still horrendous , yes.
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20:15.01mystica555according to ebay, yours is 3x more than the dell
20:15.07mystica555well ok about 2.4
20:15.08mystica555x
20:15.12mystica555depending on the auction
20:15.23chxthat's ebay, try Yahoo Japan.
20:15.36chxyou can get one with shipping and all for about 600 dollars
20:16.04mystica555hm
20:16.07mystica555fun
20:16.14mystica555still more than ive got XD
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20:16.21chxi used easyauctionjapan as a proxy, you are welcome to use them or any else similar i basically picked one random
20:18.11chxanywyas. zoom? :)
20:18.15kdepepopedahzur, update libmsn to 4.2
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20:20.59nicklas_nothing like awn for kde? is daisy any good?
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20:23.57pedahzurkdepepo: Is there a PPA or .deb package somewhere? Even the latest Ubuntu dev release only has 4.1  Or am I stuck compiling?
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20:24.25kdepepoask in #ubuntu
20:24.34pedahzurkdepepo: right
20:24.38pedahzurkdepepo: Thanks
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20:50.39pedahzurFor the record: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmsn/+bug/887104 Comment number four provides a temporary fix that works.
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21:19.55Tatshis anyone with KDE having this happen? http://i.imgur.com/b0Aa0.png
21:20.10Tatshall i can say is, don't ubuntu-ify KDE! :P
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23:40.53avillahello! is there an env variable i can setup to override my ~/.kde?
23:41.50pinotreeexport KDEHOME=/home/myuser/.kde-alternative
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23:42.07avillathanks!
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23:42.44avilla(just found it in startkde)
23:43.26pinotreethere's a techbase page with all these envvars
23:43.53avillauhm
23:44.06avillais there a way to override only the *rc file of the current application?
23:44.36pinotreenope
23:44.45avillaok, thanks
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23:46.50kollaI want to script a menu with dynamic content... are there any CLI tools I can use?
23:47.27pikeminnowvi
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23:52.01kollaso do I tell a menu to refresh after having edited the files?
23:52.04kollahow
23:54.20pikeminnowman vi, look for something that has to do with refresh?
23:54.40kollano, how do I tell kde to refresh its menus
23:55.02kollafunny, running 'kmenuedit --help' is enough
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