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| 00:06.58 | troglodita | hi |
| 00:07.11 | troglodita | I am trying to choose the columns in ls -l |
| 00:07.24 | troglodita | I don't want them all, just a select few |
| 00:07.35 | troglodita | any pipes or tips you could give |
| 00:07.40 | troglodita | I would appreciate it |
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| 00:34.45 | desti_T2 | still don't got my kde back working properly, but found a new error: Unable to contact KDED. Any ideas what's the reason and how to fix it? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6863346.html#6863346 |
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| 02:06.53 | Gentoochild | desti_T2: I can't help you, only confirm some of your problems |
| 02:07.26 | Gentoochild | like that I have to re-input email passwords from time to time (but evenbefore 4.7.3) |
| 02:08.13 | desti_T2 | i tested it now with a virgin user and it seems to work there, so i will reset all the kde configs and hope it solves it |
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| 02:16.33 | Faither | Gentoochild: if in kwallet you remove the folder structure of your passwords it will save it next time |
| 02:19.16 | Gentoochild | I will try to remember it in case it happens again |
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| 02:41.23 | ashfaq | Hi, all just switched to kde in mint 10, please help me out with small problems |
| 02:42.30 | ashfaq | How do I make the kde as default, as presently I have to choose, and all applications are still of gnome, I want pure kde |
| 02:44.03 | Gentoochild | ashfaq: choose where? |
| 02:46.58 | ashfaq | durin log in session |
| 02:47.26 | ashfaq | <Gentoochild>Sorry I missed your comment |
| 02:47.54 | Gentoochild | np. Well if you don't want Gome, you should uninstall it. That will also remove the session item. |
| 02:48.03 | Gentoochild | (but I think GDM should remember what you last logged in to) |
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| 02:48.38 | ashfaq | I want to keep it until I become fully familarise, than I can keep kde permanantly |
| 02:49.35 | ashfaq | I had to log in gdm first that switch to kde, I want full kde environment, how to go about that |
| 02:50.41 | ashfaq | After installation the package manager asked if you want to make the default, but as I am new I choose gdm |
| 02:50.49 | ashfaq | Can I change that now? |
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| 02:52.53 | zenkhaos | ashfaq: at terminal, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" without the quotes, then choose kdm |
| 02:53.34 | ashfaq | <zenkhaos>Let me try that! I will come back! |
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| 02:55.17 | ashfaq | zenkhaos> Is that all? I will get the full list of kde applications! |
| 02:55.49 | ashfaq | zenkhaos>I did that! what next |
| 02:56.24 | Gentoochild | that just got you your default config for gdm back. |
| 02:56.42 | Gentoochild | if you want a full KDE environment, then install it. ;-p |
| 02:56.48 | ashfaq | also I dont find, shut-down, Restart, at the leave, as logout- swtch user is displayed |
| 02:57.36 | Gentoochild | hm... I don't know much about ubuntu's inner works, but that might be due to missing permissions from policykit |
| 02:57.47 | ashfaq | zenkhaos>I have already installed KDE-Standard from package manager |
| 02:58.14 | zenkhaos | you could install the entire kde desktop with "sudo apt-get install kde-full" without the quotes, but be sure to have plenty of disk space, this is a hefty download |
| 02:59.07 | ashfaq | zenkhaos>This will leave out the already installed items or they will be downloaded again! |
| 02:59.28 | zenkhaos | ashfaq: it should just fill in what's missing |
| 02:59.46 | ashfaq | Than I will go for it! |
| 03:00.17 | ashfaq | You are sure, as I have Edge connection (Mobile-Internet) |
| 03:01.19 | zenkhaos | ashfaq: that will install the full kde desktop, including the default applications for kde |
| 03:02.45 | ashfaq | <zenkhaos>Yeah it is showing 228 mbs extra! What to do? |
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| 03:03.31 | zenkhaos | ashfaq: It is up to you from here. Good luck! |
| 03:04.06 | ashfaq | <zenkhaos>Will I get the latest KDE desktop or the one matching mint10 |
| 03:06.03 | zenkhaos | ashfaq: You will get whatever they have updated for Mint 10's repositories, not sure which version that is, since I'm running Kubuntu 11.10. |
| 03:06.45 | ashfaq | <zenkhaos>how about going for kubuntu than, what is your experience? for a newbe like me! |
| 03:07.13 | ashfaq | would you advise kubuntu or upgrade? |
| 03:08.45 | zenkhaos | ashfaq: I prefer Kubuntu because it's a little more vanilla KDE, which allows me to tweak it as I like without having to "undo" a lot of things that came as default. Depending on your hardware, I would do research or even give it a go in VirtualBox first before installing anything. |
| 03:09.47 | ashfaq | I have started the download, with my speed it shows four hours ...lets see |
| 03:10.10 | ashfaq | The one of going for full kde |
| 03:11.04 | ashfaq | <zenkhaos> One last thing, I will have my Mintgnome, or it will be gone! |
| 03:12.58 | zenkhaos | ashfaq: If you install kde-full from your current distro, your Gnome applications will still be there, as will the ability to log into the Gnome desktop. You will have access to both KDE and Gnome applications under both desktop environments. This is also a downside to installing multiple desktops, a very cluttered menu. |
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| 04:52.25 | Gentoochild | :q |
| 04:52.29 | Gentoochild | ooops, wrong program ^^ |
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| 08:34.33 | sol0_ | i have kde on my arch. i am using DSL connection, i can acces internet using chromium browser, but other applications cant access internet like firefox, quassel irc client etc. what may be possible reasons? please help. |
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| 08:51.45 | JyZyXEL | how do you change DPI in kde? |
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| 08:57.11 | thiago | JyZyXEL: somewhere in the font settings |
| 08:57.25 | thiago | but you shouldn't do that unless your monitor size wasn't detected properly |
| 08:57.40 | JyZyXEL | oh |
| 08:58.36 | JyZyXEL | i don't think its the font installer |
| 08:58.44 | thiago | I didn't say font installer |
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| 09:02.31 | JyZyXEL | theres a neat search feature that helped me to find it |
| 09:03.04 | thiago | as I said, DPI should only be changed if your screen size wasn't properly detected |
| 09:03.29 | JyZyXEL | yeah |
| 09:03.32 | thiago | DPI is a calculation, not a setting. Changing the "setting" involves actually telling the system the physical size is different than what was detected. |
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| 09:05.13 | JyZyXEL | how come the digital clock in the kicker doesn't have a setting for 12/24h formatting |
| 09:05.20 | ZinovaS | is there a way to get kde3-like kmenu in kde4? |
| 09:06.13 | thiago | JyZyXEL: it's in the regional settings |
| 09:06.19 | thiago | ZinovaS: switch it to classic mode |
| 09:08.03 | JyZyXEL | thiago: no such thing in System settings at least |
| 09:09.30 | thiago | JyZyXEL: Localisation |
| 09:09.47 | JyZyXEL | i have HH:MM:SS there in time format |
| 09:09.55 | JyZyXEL | but my clock is still 12h |
| 09:10.11 | thiago | so it is set to 24 hours? |
| 09:10.21 | JyZyXEL | it is set to 24h yes |
| 09:10.31 | thiago | restart plasma: kquitapp plasma-desktop |
| 09:10.38 | thiago | wait a few seconds, then type plasma-desktop again |
| 09:10.42 | JyZyXEL | and date format is set to DD-MM-YYYY but the calendar is showing MM/DD/YY |
| 09:13.13 | ZinovaS | thiago, thanks |
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| 09:59.43 | ZinovaS | I set folder view for both monitors and now I have full set of icons on every monitor. is it possible to have some icons on one and som on other monitor? |
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| 10:04.12 | cb400f | guess not.. since it shows whatever is in ~/Desktop/ |
| 10:04.39 | cb400f | that's why the folderview widget is sooo much more flexible |
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| 10:08.31 | ZinovaS | :it looks like I cant resize one widget to fill both monitors.. |
| 10:09.03 | ZinovaS | what was wrong with old kde3-like behavior? |
| 10:09.48 | ZinovaS | I liked my monitors to be one big desktop, and not two separete ones.. :/ |
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| 12:12.50 | JyZyXEL | can Konsole be made to open links with other than konqueror? |
| 12:13.11 | thiago | associate the links in system settings |
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| 12:30.30 | UKMadBeef | while its so busy in here i'm interested in distro recommendations |
| 12:30.52 | UKMadBeef | kubuntu 11.10 is not going well for me, but i have used kubuntu for years, considering opensuse & chakra |
| 12:31.05 | UKMadBeef | or another distro where kde is not a second class citizen :) |
| 12:31.31 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: I have also used Kubuntu, but now migrated to Debian (with KDE), since latest Kubuntu has so many bugs... |
| 12:31.42 | UKMadBeef | i'm most comfortable with debian derived distros, deb > rpm :) |
| 12:31.59 | UKMadBeef | which version of kde are you on? |
| 12:32.07 | UKMadBeef | i like to be up to date |
| 12:32.12 | UKMadBeef | and squeeze is really old :) |
| 12:32.51 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: Now on 4.6 KDE. You can upgrade to 4.7 if you want, but I don't want to :) |
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| 12:33.03 | UKMadBeef | and yes I agree, i'm struggling with kubuntu 11.10, i just want a distro that works, dont want to mess with it |
| 12:33.18 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: Try Debian ;) |
| 12:33.24 | UKMadBeef | how do you do that? get packages from testing / sid? |
| 12:33.39 | cb400f | UKMadBeef: _if_ you decide to try openSUSE .. you should wait at least 11 days for the 12.1 release |
| 12:33.48 | ReekenX | No, wheezy source list has KDE 4.6 |
| 12:33.50 | UKMadBeef | i use debian on servers but for desktop have always used kubuntu |
| 12:34.17 | UKMadBeef | cb400f: was considering the rc2 I want my laptop sorted :) |
| 12:34.27 | UKMadBeef | but i know what you mean it's close innit |
| 12:34.35 | cb400f | rc2 looks ok to me :-) |
| 12:34.39 | UKMadBeef | i've been meaning to try debian on desktop for a while |
| 12:34.49 | UKMadBeef | but always thought it would be too much hard work |
| 12:35.07 | cb400f | but of course there isn't all the support around 12.1rc1 yet (codecs, guides, 3rd party repos etc.) |
| 12:35.22 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: I am only 4 days on Debian. Just trying... |
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| 12:35.53 | UKMadBeef | I'd be willing to wait 11 days, haven't tried suse in a couple of years |
| 12:36.10 | UKMadBeef | ReekenX: how hard was it to set up? i dont want to spend all day :) |
| 12:36.14 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: So get Debian for 11 days, maybe you will like it ;) |
| 12:36.22 | UKMadBeef | haha yeah :) |
| 12:36.59 | UKMadBeef | so you start with the debian 6.0x CD 1 ? |
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| 12:37.07 | UKMadBeef | and install the rest from repos? |
| 12:37.10 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: Very easy, no compilation, no googling. Just updated source list, apt-get upgrade and KDE 4.6 is installed |
| 12:37.22 | UKMadBeef | cool |
| 12:37.26 | UKMadBeef | what kernel version? |
| 12:37.27 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: Debian 6.0.3 with KDE CD 1 |
| 12:37.41 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: Kernel 3.0 |
| 12:37.59 | UKMadBeef | wheezy = testing? |
| 12:38.13 | UKMadBeef | so install stable then upgrade to testing? |
| 12:38.53 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: I don't know is it testing or not, maybe. You should look at debian website for this info |
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| 12:39.10 | UKMadBeef | yeah i'm on it, usually with debian i just stick to stable |
| 12:39.26 | UKMadBeef | but thats for servers, for my laptop i will risk it :) |
| 12:40.01 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: Why you have used Debian for servers, why not Ubuntu? |
| 12:40.12 | UKMadBeef | because debian just works :) |
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| 12:40.25 | UKMadBeef | and it's what I'm used to |
| 12:41.20 | UKMadBeef | sometimes i get newer kernel from backports for hardware etc but otherwise i stick to debian stable |
| 12:41.44 | UKMadBeef | as debian stable is more bulletproof than whatever hardware i run it on :) |
| 12:41.55 | UKMadBeef | but it's usually quite old |
| 12:42.25 | UKMadBeef | yeah wheezy = testing |
| 12:43.11 | UKMadBeef | and this is why I don't use testing on servers: "Please note that security updates for testing distribution are not yet managed by the security team. Hence, testing does not get security updates in a timely manner." |
| 12:43.20 | UKMadBeef | although how much of a big deal that is I don't know |
| 12:43.39 | UKMadBeef | would rather not risk it on a dns or postfix for example :) |
| 12:44.05 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: You shouldn't use this on server. For servers only stable releases. But for laptop, you can do whatever you want, I think ;) |
| 12:44.13 | UKMadBeef | yeah :) |
| 12:44.29 | UKMadBeef | does the debian installer do encrypted home folder like ubuntu? |
| 12:44.59 | UKMadBeef | i never did a gui install with debian |
| 12:45.16 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: No, I haven't found anything like there was in Kubuntu with home folder encryption |
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| 12:45.39 | UKMadBeef | ah well, im sure there is a way it will just be more messing about :( |
| 12:45.46 | UKMadBeef | appreciate your insight ReekenX :) |
| 12:46.08 | ReekenX | ;) |
| 12:49.34 | UKMadBeef | hmmm finding out how to encrypt home folders would be easier if there weren't at least 3 different ways to do it hehe |
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| 12:52.30 | ReekenX | UKMadBeef: I haved encrypted home folder before. But performance was never the same as without encryption. I have moved to it 450 GB of files, this took me 2 days... I will never repeat this mistake again :) |
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| 12:52.48 | UKMadBeef | wow hehe |
| 12:52.58 | UKMadBeef | to be honest i never noticed that much of a difference |
| 12:53.11 | UKMadBeef | but i do need at least home and swap encrypted |
| 12:53.26 | UKMadBeef | var would be nice too but i dont usually bother |
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| 12:53.49 | UKMadBeef | and full disk encryption is a bit overkill |
| 12:54.45 | UKMadBeef | i once did full disk encryption on a 7 disk RAID5 and performance was not greatly affected, the bottleneck was still the disks |
| 12:54.52 | UKMadBeef | and it gave the cpu something to do :) |
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| 13:14.10 | UKMadBeef | ah man, home / swap encryption on debian looks like hard work :( |
| 13:14.17 | UKMadBeef | i wanna just tick a box u know? :) |
| 13:15.02 | UKMadBeef | as it is sunday i may persevere with kubuntu and go for a nap ;) |
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| 13:16.05 | kwfj | How do I disable Ctrl Alt V for Klipper? |
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| 13:18.16 | UKMadBeef | no idea, have you tried system settings -> shortcuts and gestures? |
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| 13:18.41 | UKMadBeef | i dont use klipper sorry |
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| 13:19.20 | ReekenX | kwfj: Klipper has it's own shortcuts settings page, you should check there |
| 13:20.08 | UKMadBeef | 's laptop screen brightness has another epileptic fit |
| 13:20.16 | UKMadBeef | damn i need to sort this |
| 13:20.18 | UKMadBeef | heh |
| 13:21.03 | kwfj | ReekenX: it’s not there |
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| 13:24.24 | UKMadBeef | what does CTRL-ALT-V do anyway? |
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| 13:25.33 | kwfj | Click on Klipper -> Configure Klipper -> Shortcuts only has options for Edit Contents, Enable Clipboard Actions, etc. none of which is Ctrl Alt V |
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| 13:27.20 | UKMadBeef | yeah i just had a look and saw that |
| 13:27.39 | UKMadBeef | what does CTRL-ALT-V do anyway? |
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| 13:33.43 | kwfj | system tray config has it |
| 13:34.03 | kwfj | UKMadBeef: it just opens the klipper panel as if you clicked on klipper |
| 13:34.30 | kwfj | but it can annoy the heck out of emacs and inkscape users |
| 13:35.10 | UKMadBeef | on mine, nothing happens |
| 13:35.50 | UKMadBeef | (freshly installed kubuntu 11.10 w/ kde 4.7.2) |
| 13:36.05 | max_ | ;) |
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| 14:25.33 | armicron | Ctrl+T, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+X, Ctrl+V doesn't work in Dolphin, also Ctrl+Shift+A does different action |
| 14:25.59 | thiago | works here |
| 14:26.03 | thiago | which version do you have? |
| 14:26.24 | armicron | 1.7 |
| 14:26.41 | thiago | sounds old |
| 14:26.46 | thiago | I have 1.99 |
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| 14:31.40 | Jucato | 1.7 is what's on KDE 4.7.2 |
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| 14:56.00 | marsfligth | How to disable the KDE 'spell checker'? I use Gnome as default desktop, but also few Kde apps that has own services not present in Gnome panel. Thanks |
| 14:57.08 | thiago | in system settings, Localization, turn the spell checker off |
| 14:58.38 | UKMadBeef | marsfligth: you may have to run the KDE settings program directly if you don't have it in your menu |
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| 14:59.06 | UKMadBeef | systemsettings |
| 15:00.29 | marsfligth | UKMadBeef: I have a look, thanks for now |
| 15:02.09 | marsfligth | UKMadBeef: I've only these oprtions: ''a@a:~$ system-'' system-config-printer system-config-printer-applet system-tools-backends |
| 15:02.48 | UKMadBeef | marsfligth: it's called "systemsettings" no hyphen |
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| 15:03.07 | UKMadBeef | you may have to install it, I'm not sure, I use KDE natively not GNOME |
| 15:05.14 | marsfligth | UKMadBeef: yes, is missing on my configuration. I try to install it. Thanks again |
| 15:05.30 | UKMadBeef | no problem, good luck :) |
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| 15:16.25 | thiago | cristianonet: turn the away notification off, please |
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| 15:35.39 | ellipsis_ | Hey, just noticed - sometimes wobbly windows seem a lot more wobbly then others, anyone else noticed this? |
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| 17:16.00 | buntstift | via the "Special Window Settings" it's possible to force windows/application to start on a certain desktop; but how can I say to start all programs by default on desktop e.g. #3? |
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| 17:17.42 | thiago | set the setting on all windows |
| 17:20.32 | buntstift | where can I find the setting for this? is there a generic "Window class" I can set in the Window-Specific Settings dialog? |
| 17:21.00 | thiago | set it to match everything |
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| 17:24.34 | buntstift | ahh cool, just setting "unimportant" to class etc and it becomes "Settings for all windows" in the "Window Rules" KCM...good to know :) |
| 17:24.37 | buntstift | thank you, thiago! |
| 17:24.50 | buntstift | that's really need |
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| 17:25.10 | buntstift | but I'm wondering how other people organize their windows, especially the ones using mostly the keyboard :) |
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| 19:24.54 | max0r | when i start a program which starts in background and just shows up in the notification area, kde shows a entry for that program in the window-list (the "task bar") and waits until a window is shown (when i click on the tray icon, the window shows up and the entry in the task bar disappears). how can i avoid that? |
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| 19:34.54 | max0r | i solved the problem by disabling the startup notification in the properties dialog -> program -> advanced settings |
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| 20:24.59 | yggdrasil | pinotree |
| 20:25.07 | yggdrasil | just installed from the kubuntu disk |
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| 20:32.39 | Specialist | Hi there, does this regression in 4.7.3 ring a bell for someone? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285927 |
| 20:33.16 | Specialist | Basically, the Device Notifier widget detects LUKS partitions as removable disks... |
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| 21:19.53 | admiral0 | hi |
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| 21:20.51 | admiral0 | are there any "cosmetic" improvements to networkmanagement plasmoid in sight? |
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| 21:21.38 | cb400f | are you running the latest git master stuff? |
| 21:21.49 | admiral0 | in a couple of minutes yes |
| 21:21.52 | admiral0 | :) |
| 21:22.02 | cb400f | there were a lot of "usability" improvements lately afaik... as yet unreleased |
| 21:22.08 | cb400f | ... read the blog if you really care |
| 21:22.41 | admiral0 | i do care |
| 21:22.51 | cb400f | http://lamarque-lvs.blogspot.com/search/label/kde |
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| 21:23.33 | cb400f | " I will start to port the usability changes to master branch early next month, for now there are other things that require my attention." |
| 21:23.49 | admiral0 | cb400f: http://i.imgur.com/1fKcD.jpg |
| 21:24.13 | admiral0 | if you change theme+colors plasmoid becomes almost unusable |
| 21:24.25 | admiral0 | mostly on dark themes |
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| 21:26.38 | cb400f | hm.. not sure pnm is to blame for that... other plasmoids don't get screwed up either? |
| 21:26.51 | cb400f | by your plasma theme |
| 21:29.18 | admiral0 | nope |
| 21:29.31 | admiral0 | but master looks a lot better |
| 21:30.17 | admiral0 | it's these things that screw up KDE experience :(. For the rest KDE has really no match |
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| 21:33.27 | admiral0 | cb400f: well here you go difference is obvious and plasmoid is really beutiful http://i.imgur.com/TMSj5.jpg |
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| 21:34.00 | cb400f | helped quite a bit :-) |
| 21:34.17 | admiral0 | i hope these changes get released asap |
| 21:34.50 | admiral0 | ok, issue->next() |
| 21:34.52 | cb400f | all the distros ship random git snapshots anyway :-) |
| 21:34.57 | admiral0 | lol |
| 21:35.01 | admiral0 | not on gentoo |
| 21:35.30 | admiral0 | you still get nm 0.8 and oooold pnm |
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| 21:36.27 | admiral0 | sometimes notifications look strange |
| 21:36.47 | admiral0 | buttons inside them are too little for text |
| 21:37.24 | admiral0 | http://i.imgur.com/ZaLT5.jpg |
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| 22:51.04 | jcolby | Hey all, I am trying to build KDE Plasma Addons 4.7.3 and I am getting an the following error: http://paste.kde.org/143084/ |
| 22:51.12 | jcolby | Any ideas on how to resolve this? |
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| 23:49.28 | JZApples | Is there a way to change Dragon Player so that the scroll wheel changes volume instead of seeking the video? |
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