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| 01:36.20 | matti_ | how can i prevent kde from maximizing windows to the other monitor when running dual monitors? i've fiddled with the settings but can't find any that would do the trick? i only need two for certain tasks and prefer to have the other turned off but annoyingly kde maximizes minimized windows to that one at random, it seems |
| 01:38.19 | Torch | matti_: it does not do that for me |
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| 01:38.34 | Torch | matti_: but maybe i'm not getting what you meant to say |
| 01:44.14 | matti_ | ok, to elaborate: i have a bunch of windows minimized and whenever i maximize or restore one it randomly goes to the other monitor instead of the one in which it is minimized (i use the "magic lamp" setting so i see the window get maximized but to the other monitor and then have to turn it on just to move the window back |
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| 01:45.59 | matti_ | in other words, the window placement goes wrong since instead of being restored or maximized the way they were, the windows go to a different location, which is the other monitor |
| 01:46.39 | Torch | matti_: i see. but again, does not happen here at all. |
| 01:46.51 | Torch | matti_: using nvidia binary driver |
| 01:47.24 | matti_ | so can kde somehow be configured to remember where a window was when it was minimized so that they would be restored exactly to the location they were |
| 01:47.40 | matti_ | same driver here |
| 01:48.01 | Torch | matti_: that's the default behaviour unless you override that with special windows settings |
| 01:48.21 | matti_ | afaik i'm using the defaults as far as anything applicable is concerned |
| 01:50.59 | matti_ | is it related to the window behaviour setting "smart" which is the default in my distro (opensuse) at least |
| 01:53.00 | Torch | matti_: i have that setting too |
| 01:57.49 | matti_ | hmm, is there any other setting that could be relevant? i decided to change that to "centered" to test now and so far i've managed to avoid that annoying behaviour but since it happens at random, i don't know for sure yet |
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| 02:00.29 | Gammma | Hi? |
| 02:01.46 | matti_ | i've tested some more and this simple change might actually have solved it :b |
| 02:02.07 | matti_ | if not, i'll be back later but now it's time for me to sleep, thanks for your help! |
| 02:02.25 | Gammma | Could anyone tell me why that's not in the forums??? |
| 02:02.26 | Gammma | https://verein.ing-diba.de/sonstiges/10115/kde-ev |
| 02:02.29 | Gammma | ????????????????? |
| 02:03.13 | Torch | Gammma: it was on the planet |
| 02:04.43 | Gammma | There are only 3207 votes!! |
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| 10:13.15 | rotflcopter | hi |
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| 10:13.24 | rotflcopter | what does this mean in my system logs? NetworkManager[2845]: <info> Trying to start the supplicant... |
| 10:13.31 | rotflcopter | repeated often |
| 10:14.45 | thiago | ask in the networkmanager channel |
| 10:14.52 | thiago | I guess it's trying to start the supplicant... :-) |
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| 10:16.19 | rotflcopter | yes i see |
| 10:16.31 | rotflcopter | but it wasnt blogging it in system messages before |
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| 10:16.33 | rotflcopter | ;/ |
| 10:16.51 | rotflcopter | regularly |
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| 10:18.53 | rotflcopter | that's that for having a predictable system |
| 10:19.07 | rotflcopter | it still wants to make random shit |
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| 10:21.33 | Frogbarf | do the fonts used in Firefox menus have anything to do with KDE? Suddenly they are all using a black font which is not good with a dark theme |
| 10:23.01 | rotflcopter | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:23.25 | rotflcopter | foes it still like to hog system resources and hang at random times? |
| 10:23.28 | rotflcopter | does |
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| 10:24.38 | rotflcopter | yeah i also discovered darktheme is incompatible, programs are created with white background |
| 10:25.43 | rotflcopter | to make them dark it would be easier to invert colors and/or map them using a palette |
| 10:25.54 | rotflcopter | then draw to screen |
| 10:26.43 | rotflcopter | if someone tells how to do it i would try |
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| 10:28.44 | rotflcopter | insert(forall pixels do color=mapcolor([oldcolor] );function display |
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| 10:30.33 | Frogbarf | I am trying to figure out how to change the menu colors in ff. This is only a problem since either updating ff or kde to 4.7. I don't know exactly what caused the problem |
| 10:30.56 | Frogbarf | I updated about 360 packages at once... go figure |
| 10:31.11 | rotflcopter | well maybe you have a compilable source |
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| 10:32.07 | rotflcopter | you can fix it, or make it worse and send it back :) |
| 10:32.20 | rotflcopter | or revert to a more buggy recent version |
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| 10:33.21 | rotflcopter | btw you were updateing to stable versions and only to enhance functionality/security/and fix bugs right? |
| 10:34.25 | rotflcopter | im sure all packages had bugfixes, and no new bugs added you replaced |
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| 10:35.39 | rotflcopter | spider-mario<< ;> |
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| 10:36.03 | Frogbarf | I updated to KDE 4.7 as it is supposedly more 'stable'.... boy was I wrong |
| 10:36.19 | rotflcopter | not sure whats latest stable now |
| 10:37.39 | rotflcopter | my next system will include new version too |
| 10:38.00 | rotflcopter | this is like 2 years old ;/ |
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| 10:39.52 | aseigo | Frogbarf: ff has nothing to do with kde ... the only time the two interact is if the oxygen-gtk+ native gtk theme is used for gtk+ apps |
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| 10:52.21 | BlackPawn | Quick question, which of KDE's many features makes a red arrow appear on my screen? |
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| 10:56.33 | BlackPawn | Mouse Marks apparently. |
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| 11:12.27 | cek | Hi guys, what fonts would you recommend? |
| 11:12.39 | newuser2 | what are you going to use the fonts for? |
| 11:12.46 | spider-mario | I like dejavu |
| 11:12.49 | cek | Currently my fonts looks too "nice", they're too smooth |
| 11:12.53 | spider-mario | oh |
| 11:12.55 | spider-mario | then not dejavu |
| 11:13.25 | newuser2 | i don't know many fonts other than default ones anyway |
| 11:13.25 | cek | is it possible to lower the aliasing for small fonts? |
| 11:14.01 | spider-mario | possibly |
| 11:14.08 | newuser2 | when you say "lower the aliasing" do you mean make it more anti-aliased? |
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| 11:32.29 | Miriup | Quick question into the round: When I do |
| 11:32.29 | Miriup | K->Leave->(Log out|Shutdown|Restart) |
| 11:32.29 | Miriup | What is the component that handles taht? |
| 11:32.45 | Miriup | Only "Sleep" works for me currently. |
| 11:33.09 | Miriup | is KDE developer. |
| 11:35.50 | Miriup | has KDE 4.7.1 |
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| 11:39.10 | alesan | hi |
| 11:39.34 | alesan | I am sorry, I've tried for half an hour... where is my desktop? I can only see a fancy background but I know I have several files on the desktop |
| 11:39.41 | alesan | I just saved a file there |
| 11:39.47 | newuser2 | cool, you get shutdown and restart, I don't :( |
| 11:40.00 | alesan | but I only get this empty background |
| 11:40.10 | newuser2 | alesan: what desktop environment are you running? |
| 11:40.13 | alesan | I remember once I enabled something to show the real desktop |
| 11:40.17 | newuser2 | oh, KDE obviously |
| 11:40.22 | alesan | KDE, why would I ask here ;) |
| 11:40.35 | newuser2 | yeah, forgot the name of the channel heh |
| 11:40.55 | alesan | what client are you using for God's sake |
| 11:41.00 | alesan | bitchx? |
| 11:41.18 | alesan | :) |
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| 11:41.53 | newuser2 | no i can see it written down, i just forgot, anyway is your desktop set to desktop or folder view or what? |
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| 11:42.05 | alesan | I am not sure |
| 11:42.16 | alesan | how can I check and set it to normal desktop? |
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| 11:42.46 | newuser2 | right-click on desktop, then click (something) Settings, should be at the bottom of the context menu |
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| 11:50.02 | alesan | ok found newuser2 |
| 11:50.03 | alesan | thanks |
| 11:51.19 | newuser2 | did you solve the problem? |
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| 11:55.19 | alesan | yes |
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| 12:39.09 | Frogbarf | aseigo, it was the qtchrome theme that modified the userChrome.css file. I commented out the line it added and that fixed the problem |
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| 13:41.53 | phoenix_firebrd | I need to change the akonadi backend from mysql to postgresql |
| 13:42.13 | thiago | why? |
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| 13:47.01 | phoenix_firebrd | the backup and restore of akonadi db is not working |
| 13:47.10 | phoenix_firebrd | thiago: the backup and restore of akonadi db is not working |
| 13:47.28 | thiago | didn't know there was a backup system |
| 13:48.46 | phoenix_firebrd | thiago: right click on the akonadi system tray icon' |
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| 13:50.40 | phoenix_firebrd | thiago: the new kjots note taking app stores apps in akonadi, as far asi know the only way to backup and restore notes in proper way is to backup and restore the akonadi db. Do you know any other i can do this |
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| 13:52.58 | thiago | phoenix_firebrd: no |
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| 14:12.58 | Frogbarf | what is working in akonadi? |
| 14:14.24 | Frogbarf | Working with akonadi is an exercise in selfpunishment LOL |
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| 14:17.35 | aseigo | Frogbarf: for me.. everything atm.. but i'm running from master |
| 14:18.18 | aseigo | Frogbarf: they had a devel sprint focussing on stability and kmail UI issues related to akonadi and since then things have been very very nice, essentially back to kontact 1 usability |
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| 14:19.46 | rana_ | i have downloaded opensuse.iso DVD, i wont install it in my netbook, but there is no dvd driver, how to install it by pendrive? |
| 14:21.04 | Frogbarf | i also had to go back to kontact 1 |
| 14:21.48 | Frogbarf | Hopfully kmail2 that is installed with 4.7 will get better. |
| 14:22.34 | Frogbarf | with kmail2 I was having severe imap issues |
| 14:22.55 | Frogbarf | deleted messages were reappearing, and duplicating 1000s of times |
| 14:24.13 | Frogbarf | maybe it's just me |
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| 14:47.44 | clarjon1 | There doesn't seem to be a gwenview channel that i can find, so i'll ask here: |
| 14:48.11 | clarjon1 | Is it possible to call up one of the gwenview plugins directly (specifically the Advanced Slideshow plugin) from the commandline? |
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| 14:49.29 | cb400f | they're kipi-plugins |
| 14:49.50 | clarjon1 | mmm |
| 14:49.53 | clarjon1 | i see that... |
| 14:49.55 | cb400f | afaik they're mostly developed by the digikam guys |
| 14:50.01 | clarjon1 | ah, gotcha |
| 14:50.15 | cb400f | dunno if you can run them standalone.. but the digikam guys prolly do |
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| 16:10.16 | sakal | in my KDE 4.6.5 where is a place for wallpapers? I use desktop menu, in View select Grouping Desktop and wallpaper: Slideshow. Then I press button Get New Wallpapers... So, where they are stored on file system? |
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| 16:16.19 | Mogger | sakal: usually ~/.kde4/share/wallpapers |
| 16:16.34 | Mogger | some distros use .kde instead of .kde4 |
| 16:17.14 | sakal | Mogger, thank you. My debian use .kde |
| 16:17.21 | pinotree | actually, it's the other way round: some distros use ~/.kde4 instead of ~/.kde (which is the kde default) |
| 16:17.49 | Mogger | ok, fair enough pinotree :) |
| 16:18.22 | Mogger | .kde4 still seems to be more popular though |
| 16:18.35 | Mogger | s/popular/common |
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| 16:29.26 | Frogbarf | I was brave and updated to kmail2 again. I hope this works |
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| 16:32.08 | Wizard | Frogbarf: Abandon all hope ye who enter here |
| 16:32.18 | Frogbarf | :) |
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| 16:49.21 | Frogbarf | you sure said that right. It's still not working iwth imap |
| 16:49.43 | Frogbarf | message I delete under kmail are still on the imap server only to get downloaded again ggrrrrr |
| 16:50.35 | Frogbarf | it's even causing them to get duplicated on the imap server |
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| 17:08.53 | Frogbarf | back to version1 |
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| 17:19.49 | thiago | there's a Present Windows effect in kwin |
| 17:20.07 | knat | thiago: thanks |
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| 20:48.35 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hello, does anyone know where in the Windows system hierarchy KDE apps store their configuration files (the user ones)? I asked in #kde-windows, but got no reply |
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| 20:51.11 | Dark_Apostrophe | cordell: I'll try, thanks |
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| 20:55.00 | Dark_Apostrophe | cordell: Found it, thanks :) |
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| 21:17.58 | benkevan | not the location (i.e., left / right / top / bottom), but I was left tabs that are read from left to right, and not from top to bottom |
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| 21:33.50 | nabukadnezar43 | kde daemon crash, executable: kdeinit4 pid: 860 signal: aborted (6) |
| 21:33.58 | nabukadnezar43 | what may be causing this error? |
| 21:34.04 | nabukadnezar43 | it happens after every reboot |
| 21:35.09 | BarkingFish | nabukadnezar43: you need to give us some more information before we could try and help. Can you tell the channel your KDE version number please, and what OS and version of it you're using too :) |
| 21:35.41 | nabukadnezar43 | i am using arch linux with kde 4.7.2 |
| 21:36.03 | nabukadnezar43 | i installed kdebase and phonon-vlc only |
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| 21:36.12 | nabukadnezar43 | and some qt applications |
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| 21:38.04 | nabukadnezar43 | it's an x86_64 install |
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| 21:38.41 | BarkingFish | nabukadnezar43: does your computer generate a crash when this occurs? |
| 21:39.20 | nabukadnezar43 | it doesnt generate a report if that's what you mean |
| 21:39.32 | BarkingFish | searching the database of bugs we have, i can see other people experiencing kded crashing, but with a segmentation fault, not with the abort signal. |
| 21:40.30 | BarkingFish | one quite recently in fact, and on KDE 4.7.2 - and on a 64 bit system, but they're using SuSE |
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| 21:42.55 | BarkingFish | nabukadnezar43: I'm going to point you at something indicated on this bug by one of the other people here, a guy called Christoph Feck - he suggests looking here: http://kdepepo.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/troubleshooting-kded4-bugs/ |
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| 21:43.35 | BarkingFish | hi nabukadnezar43_ - did you see my last post or has your other presence pinged out? :) |
| 21:43.43 | BarkingFish | that answers my question :P |
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| 21:43.57 | nabukadnezar43_ | no i didn't see it, sorry |
| 21:43.58 | BarkingFish | nabukadnezar43_: I'm going to point you at something indicated on this bug by one of the other people here, a guy called Christoph Feck - he suggests looking here: http://kdepepo.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/troubleshooting-kded4-bugs/ |
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| 21:44.37 | BarkingFish | Any KDE devs who may be able to help nabukadnezar43_ with fixing this, I'm referring to bug 284052 on your bugzilla. |
| 21:46.21 | kde__pepo | well, without the information which module is causing the bug, there is little hope for help. |
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| 21:47.16 | BarkingFish | kde__pepo: Aha! I assume that's your Wordpress site I just quoted :) |
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| 21:48.00 | BarkingFish | I'm sorry, I didn't realise it needed specific info. Christoph said that the details in the link could be used to isolate the offending module |
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| 21:48.19 | BarkingFish | 0.0 |
| 21:48.21 | BarkingFish | crud. |
| 21:48.37 | kbroulik | how can I enable KMail displaying HTML emails? I only get plain text emails (especially the YouTUbe digets and Reviewboard mails become unreadable) |
| 21:48.58 | BarkingFish | kde__pepo: I just realised. You *are* Christoph!!! Dang, sorry man. |
| 21:49.15 | BarkingFish | hasn't got his head screwed on this evening |
| 21:49.47 | nabukadnezar43_ | kde_pepo: how do i determine which module is causing that? is there a way? |
| 21:51.17 | nabukadnezar43_ | i will reboot again to check it |
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| 21:58.26 | nabukadnezar43 | this is the only information about the crash: http://a1111.hizliresim.com/r/1/9221.png |
| 22:03.11 | nabukadnezar43 | here's my .xsession-errors content: http://bash.nopaste.dk/p4180 and http://bash.nopaste.dk/p4181 |
| 22:03.43 | alienBOB | nabukadnezar43: click on "Report Bug" and see if the stack trace that follows, gives more info |
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| 22:04.19 | nabukadnezar43 | i did that actually, it doesnt give more info |
| 22:04.27 | nabukadnezar43 | no info at all |
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| 22:04.43 | kde__pepo | install gdb |
| 22:05.35 | nabukadnezar43 | ok i installed gdb |
| 22:05.45 | nabukadnezar43 | anything else? |
| 22:05.52 | nabukadnezar43 | if not i am going for a reboot again :) |
| 22:05.54 | alienBOB | Well, I see "kdeinit4: hcontrol.c:764: snd_hctl_handle_event: Assertion `elem' failed.". Could that be related to the kded4 crash? |
| 22:06.06 | kde__pepo | yep, bug 209975 |
| 22:06.31 | alienBOB | My kded4 crashes _every_ time I login (KDE 4.7.2) and the crash log tells me it is related to snd_hctl_handle_event |
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| 22:06.44 | alienBOB | Let me look at that bug then... |
| 22:07.11 | kde__pepo | This one probably is an alsa and/or pulseaudio bug, but hasn't been confirmed upstream. |
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| 22:07.52 | alienBOB | Ah |
| 22:07.53 | kde__pepo | Please add the info you have to the upstream bug. |
| 22:08.14 | alienBOB | In Slackware we do not use pulseaudio, but the traceback shows a call to alsa library |
| 22:08.26 | alienBOB | I will add my sound card info etc |
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| 22:08.36 | thiago | alsa is not pulseaudio |
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| 22:08.46 | alienBOB | I know thiago ... duh |
| 22:08.54 | nabukadnezar43 | i didnt install pulse audio |
| 22:09.24 | nabukadnezar43 | it may be installed with a package though |
| 22:09.57 | alienBOB | Gah, another fucking bugtracker that requires another fucking logon |
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| 22:10.18 | thiago | all bugtrackers require logins |
| 22:10.23 | thiago | and you will watch your language |
| 22:10.41 | nabukadnezar43 | seems it's installed |
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| 22:19.10 | nabukadnezar43 | here's what i get now after i installed gdb: http://bash.nopaste.dk/p4182 |
| 22:20.53 | thiago | turn kmixd off |
| 22:20.59 | thiago | I don't know why it's crashing, but it's the source |
| 22:21.45 | nabukadnezar43 | okay |
| 22:21.47 | nabukadnezar43 | thanks |
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| 22:27.16 | nabukadnezar43 | thiago: is there a way to determine the source? |
| 22:27.46 | thiago | install the debug symbols for that module |
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| 22:27.55 | thiago | if that doesn't help, rebuild it in debug mode |
| 22:28.14 | thiago | then read the source code and find out why the assertionfailed |
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| 22:29.56 | nabukadnezar43 | let me reboot with kmix off |
| 22:30.05 | thiago | kmixd, not kmix |
| 22:30.15 | nabukadnezar43 | kmixd? |
| 22:30.26 | nabukadnezar43 | how do i turn that off? |
| 22:30.35 | nabukadnezar43 | i dont even know what it is :) |
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| 22:34.33 | thiago | it's a service, you can find how to turn it off in system settings |
| 22:34.40 | alienBOB | nabukadnezar43: System Settings > Startup and Shutdown > Service Manager |
| 22:35.00 | thiago | not that one |
| 22:35.13 | alienBOB | thiago (and apologoes for language) - what functionality will be lost by disabling kmixd ? |
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| 22:35.30 | thiago | I don't know |
| 22:35.32 | alienBOB | thiago: kmixd can be disabled there |
| 22:35.34 | thiago | I don't know what it's for |
| 22:35.38 | nabukadnezar43 | it's listed in the startup services |
| 22:36.22 | alienBOB | Here in KDE 4.7.2 it is listed in System Settings > Startup and Shutdown > Service Manager as a service that is enabled |
| 22:36.35 | alienBOB | Let's see what happens if I disable this |
| 22:36.38 | nabukadnezar43 | yes, you are right alienbob |
| 22:36.43 | nabukadnezar43 | i just turned it off |
| 22:37.07 | nabukadnezar43 | let me reboot and see if the error goes away |
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| 22:37.43 | thiago | rebooting isn't necessary |
| 22:37.49 | thiago | just start kded |
| 22:38.15 | thiago | how? type kded4 in the Alt+F2 dialog |
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| 22:39.49 | nabukadnezar43 | thiago: the error went away, thank you |
| 22:40.24 | nabukadnezar43 | what does kmixd do exactly? i didn't find any information about it from google |
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| 22:46.21 | alienBOB | nabukadnezar43, thiago - my crash did not return either after disabling kmixd |
| 22:47.14 | alienBOB | Even so, the mixer applet still runs fine, and my laptop's hardware volume keys still work |
| 22:47.36 | nabukadnezar43 | yeah exactly same situation here |
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| 23:17.30 | IEatKawFish | Is there a way to mute my laptop speakers so it only makes sound when headphones are plugged in? |
| 23:17.40 | mactalla | Trying to use post-review to upload a patch to reviewboard. I followed the instructions on techbase but post-review won't login (http 404). Any ideas? |
| 23:18.44 | mactalla | IEatKawFish: you want the speakers to make sound when your headphones are plugged in, or you want your system unmuted when you plugin the headphones? |
| 23:19.33 | IEatKawFish | system unmuted when headphones plugged in. |
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| 23:20.55 | mactalla | IEatKawFish: I'm not sure if KDE gets any notification when that happens. At least on my laptop I'm pretty sure it's done in hardware. |
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| 23:21.44 | IEatKawFish | it was possible in the alsa days. The headphone and speaker where seperate channels and could be muted seperately. |
| 23:23.25 | mactalla | IEatKawFish: try alsamixer on the command line. Maybe you still can. |
| 23:23.43 | nabukadnezar43 | what is the best way to integrate firefox into kde, gtk-qt-engine? oxygen-molecule or oxygen-gtk? |
| 23:24.27 | alienBOB | I use oxygen-gtk myself |
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| 23:25.31 | nabukadnezar43 | i use oxygen-gtk too |
| 23:25.36 | nabukadnezar43 | but i never used the other ones |
| 23:25.46 | IEatKawFish | mactalla: interesting muting speaker from alsamixer mutes both, but I can control the volume seperately. |
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| 23:29.04 | mactalla | IEatKawFish: I think alsamixer would be the lowest-level control. So if that mutes both together, then you would need help from alsa guys to separate them. |
| 23:29.50 | IEatKawFish | mactalla, fair enough. Thanks for your help. |
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| 23:43.59 | mactalla | Okay, now trying to submit the patch via the web interface for reviewboard. And it's telling me "the draft must have a summary". Perhaps I'm blind, but I don't see where I'm expected to put said summary. Help? |
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| 23:51.11 | kde__pepo | mactalla, the headline right below the blue bar, click on the pencil |
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