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00:08.52shevyI think in KDE3 I could use kcontrol from commandline. Is this possible in KDE4 too?
00:09.07shevyI need to find the sound settings, to disable some beeping sound noise on scrolling-to-hit-file-end event
00:09.16Sho_shevy: what do you want to do exactly?
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00:11.03shevyah
00:11.09shevyseems to be "systemsettings"
00:12.25shevyor perhaps not
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00:13.01Sho_define "use from commandline"
00:13.56tjb0607in kdenlive, any objects with a blur effect in title clips aren't showing up in the preview window. Will it show in the final render?
00:14.06shevySho_ in KDE3 I could use kcontrol if I remember correctly to go to Audio settings and disable the sound events
00:14.42Sho_kcontrol didn't have a command line ui
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00:15.09shevyor was it via dcop, I don't remember
00:15.19tjb0607nvm, it works
00:16.22shevyhmm where does KDE4 keep the audio files it plays for audio events?
00:17.24Sho_why do you need to disable it from the command line anyway?
00:18.00shevySho_ it's not so important from the command line
00:18.07shevythe thing is, the sound is annoying
00:20.38leo_rockwayshevy: if you used dcop, you can use dbus.
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00:23.35shevyhmm
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00:24.07shevytried to .. System Settings->Notifications->Player Settings-> selected "No audio output" and apply. Sound effect can still be heard, perhaps it is not from KDE4 hmmm
00:24.56shevyoh
00:25.01shevyI think it was from pulseaudio :)
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03:40.12Daskreechetd-: Hell?
03:40.14DaskreechHello?
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04:41.33tjb0607http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjUYwTAd2lk been working on this in kdenlive. Slightly irrelevant, but it shows how powerful kdenlive is
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06:30.08do0obHi
06:30.13do0obHow do i print multiple pages per sheet in okular?
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07:30.34crookseyCan I hide "~" files in dolphin?
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08:12.48marisn4.7.2 announcement page says it was released on September 7, 2011...
08:13.03marisn^^ http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.7.2.php
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08:45.18RalfJthe announcement at http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.7.2.php says "September 7th" ;-) copy-and-paste?
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08:49.46marisnRalfJ: You are the second :)
08:49.57RalfJdamnit^^ ;-)
08:50.10marisnor probably third or more...
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10:36.08toadHi, I'm on Arch and just installed 4.7.2-1 - the printer module in systemsettings complains it hasn't got system-config-printer-kde.py but I've got it in the system...
10:36.16toadanybody out there with similar experiences?
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10:41.33BrummbQtoad: better check Arch IRC and forums
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10:48.44toadBrummbQ: hm, arch is using vanilla kde, but thanks anyway, will do!
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11:04.25kalibHi people. Everytime I log on my kde, I see a message coming up: "nepomuk service is disabled...etc.". Yeah, is disabled, I know that. I did it. What can I do to not receive this messages anymore?
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11:26.42clemuxHi. I'm using kde 4.7.2 on archlinux, and the akonadi resource 'nepomuk' (virtual folders) doesn't work - I only get "unable to start"... Any idea how I could get more debug info?
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11:28.15toadhave you tried nepomuk <tab><tab>? there are six different commands there...
11:29.36clemuxtoad: none with a name suggesting it might help me
11:30.08kalibHi people. Everytime I log on my kde, I see a message coming up: "nepomuk service is disabled...etc.". Yeah, is disabled, I know that. I did it. What can I do to not receive this messages anymore?
11:30.09toadclemux: sorry, I'm no nepomuk wizzard...
11:30.10clemuxhmm, I tried akonadiconsole, there I also have "status: offline, broken"
11:31.14toadclemux: but I do know that there are a fair number of threads on akonadi et al in the forum
11:31.48clemuxI tried some googling - most people want to *deactivate* nepomuk, not use it...
11:32.47cb400fnepomuk usually doesn't cause any problems as long as strigi is disabled
11:33.19clemuxer, I know (and I'm using it with strigi enabled, no problem either)
11:33.40clemuxI was only stating the fact that most forums posts are about disabling nepomuk
11:33.57clemuxor maybe I'm a bad googler.
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11:53.46kalibHi people. Everytime I log on my kde, I see a message coming up: "nepomuk service is disabled...etc.". Yeah, is disabled, I know that. I did it. What can I do to not receive this messages anymore?
11:56.05pinotreekalib: asking once is enough, no need to repeat every 30m, thanks
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11:56.59kalibpinotree, perhaps. But, on the last minutes I saw many people joining the channel. If the others, who were already here, can't help me.. perhaps this joinners can.
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11:57.09kalibthat's why. Sorry anyway.. Didn't know this rule.
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11:57.39pinotreethere's no such rule, but imagine 200 people asking repeating questions every 30 minutes
11:58.02kalibgot your point.
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12:11.06elknghow can I save all address strings from all opened tabs in konqueror ?
12:12.18elkngmaybe there is some file in ".konqueror/" that contains addresses of all opened tabs ?
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12:13.32kalibhauhauha
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12:19.31AL13N_workdoes anyone know if in kwrite i can get it so that the cursor cannot pass end of lines? ie: if you click at the end, that it jumps to end of that line?
12:20.54jbwivpinotree, actually, doesn't irc etiquette specify that repeating a question after a period of time with no answers is allowed, if not encouraged?
12:22.14AL13N_workafaik period of time is unspecified :)
12:22.14pinotreenever heard of that, but making this channel crowded of repeated questions won't make it more usefuls
12:22.35pinotree*useful
12:23.40AL13N_work(some people interprete that rule as "if it's scrolled up the screen, you can ask again"
12:25.24jbwivpinotree, I think it's stated that way because many folks have various events (channel departures/joins, etc) potentially pushing questions off the screen. Additionally, new folks might have joined in that period that know the answer. Anyway, kalib, I don't see a problem with it.
12:25.37jbwivAL13N_work, that sound fair ;)
12:25.49kalib;]
12:26.13kalibI'm also googling it.. but didn't find any answer until now.
12:26.26kalibMean, for my problem.
12:26.47kalibI think I'll have to enable nepomunik again. :/
12:27.04kalib*nepomuk
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12:27.20pinotreejbwiv: thanks for the explanation, but still my reason apply
12:27.25pinotree*reasons
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12:28.36jbwivpinotree, sure...I understand. However, if 200 people flooding a channel that way were common, I'm sure etiquette would change ;-)
12:28.56pinotreeand i'm pretty sure you are quite new of this channel ;)
12:29.22jbwivpinotree, but I'm quite old to freenode...and to irc in general ;)
12:29.36jbwivbut regardless
12:29.40jbwivthere's no set rule
12:29.54jbwivanyway
12:32.12jbwivin case any KDE devs are listening, I just wanted to pop in this morning and say *thank you* for your hard work. I'm a long-time Gnome guy and haven't played with KDE since 4 was first released. I recently gave it another shot because both Gnome3 and Unity have issues supporting three monitors. After a week on KDE, I have to say WOW. It is such a slick experience. Everything I want to do is already done for me...I find it buried in a context menu here, and
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12:32.26jbwivand...three monitors work perfectly out of the box ;)
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12:49.50AL13N_workdoes anyone know if in kwrite i can get it so that the cursor cannot pass end of lines? ie: if you click at the end, that it jumps to end of that line?
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13:18.50jbwivis there a keystroke sequence for switching between windows which are grouped?
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13:27.18elkngwhat about KDE5.0, any information ?
13:28.47pinotreejbwiv: try looking at system settings → keyboard shortcuts → global keyboard shortcuts → "kwin" component
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13:29.29thiagoelkng: KDE frameworks project is ongoing
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13:31.56AL13N_workin kwrite, next to INS is "BLOK", is that normal? perhaps i accidentally did that, how can i make it disappear?
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13:32.56pinotreeAL13N_work: it's the block selection mode, see edit → block selection mode
13:34.17AL13N_workpinotree: i may have an older KDE version, i cannot see block selection mode
13:34.24pinotreewhich kde version?
13:34.27AL13N_worki only see ins selection mode
13:34.40pinotreetry with ctrl+shift+b
13:35.15AL13N_workpinotree: 4.6.5
13:35.33AL13N_workpinotree: thanks alot!
13:35.37AL13N_workthat was it
13:38.01pinotreeyou should have somewhere in the kate settings a checkbox to enable the "advanced mode" (ie show quite more menu options and settings in the config dialog)
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14:13.10jbwivis there a way to search all documentation in the khelpcenter? find seems to only look in the current page
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14:16.40clemuxalso ProcessControl: Application '/usr/bin/akonadi_nepomuktag_resource' stopped unexpected (Process crashed)
14:16.46clemuxsorry wrong chan
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14:20.03crookseyCan I hide "~" files in dolphin?
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14:23.29cb400fdoesn't seem like it
14:23.52cb400fif you don't want those filez you can prolly configure your editor not to create them though
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14:37.11crookseyYea
14:37.14crookseyJust wondered
14:40.40crookseycb400f: in kate would that be remove trailing spaceS?
14:42.02cb400fbackup on save ... settings -> configure kate -> open/close -> advanced
14:42.21cb400fyou can tell it not to make backupz when you edit files
14:43.32cb400for you could use . as prefex instead of the  ~ as suffix.. that way you'd have the backups, but they'd be hidden
14:44.06crookseyGreat idea!
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15:29.14WojtulasHi, why mandriva 2011 (kde) gives me 2 notifications about downloaded file, song chage, copying etc?
15:30.41cb400fno idea.. better ask in #mandriva if other users experience the same thing
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15:30.54Wojtulascb400f: okay
15:30.55cb400fand if mandriva did some interesting to notifications
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16:32.44TimiiHi, Have anyone faced problems with window resizing when taskbar is in side of workspace?
16:33.14Timiiwhen I drag windon top of workspace to large it, it will go below of taskbar panel
16:33.35Timiithat does not happen when taskbar panel is bottom of workspace
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16:34.22cb400fdoes it also happen if you maximize by clicking the maximize button on the windeco (instead of dragging against screen edge) ?
16:34.40Timiiyeah
16:35.02Timiibut I just noticed that it might be caused by second monitor (tv with hdmi)
16:35.35cb400fah.. also double check in the panel settings that you don't have "windows can cover panel"
16:36.27Timii"always visible" is checked
16:37.41Timiibut thanks for anyway
16:37.42cb400fhm, then you're prolly right it's some multiple monitor bug
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16:38.32TimiiMayby I should check bug database and after that report bug
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16:40.26Timiithou first I will update kde :)
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16:45.18hekmatofhey, when I want to run a gui application from terminal by root user I got this error: cannot connect to X server :0
16:45.22hekmatofhow can I solve it
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16:52.06Timiiyou can use sudo to run application with super user priviledges
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16:56.13hekmatofTimii: Thank you :)
16:57.25Timiino problem :)
16:57.41quark01> how to configure WiFi card?  Intel Wifi Link 100 series.  system opensuse 12.1 Beta 1, kde 4.7
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17:20.32hcc23I must have hit some extra button  and managed to pull the terminal in dolphin (accessible via F4) out of the dolphin main window. How do I get it back in? (opensuse, 4.7.2)
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17:22.46aseigohcc23: you can drag it back into the window
17:22.59hcc23aseigo: I can
17:23.42hcc23aseigo: I can't seem to find the position where it redocks, though (draggin it with ALT+left click)
17:23.44aseigothere's also usually a little diamond button you can click that does it as well
17:24.23hcc23unfortunately there is no window decoration what so ever , with the exception of a scroll bar...
17:25.25aseigoyou sure? here i get a little diamond and a little x .. they aren't the usual window decos... but they are there :)
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17:25.51aseigoyou can also just drag it into the bottom of the window, though the diamond button might be easier...
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17:27.33hcc23aseigo: let me take a screen shot and post it somewhere... mom  (and thanks a lot for responding :) )
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17:31.37hcc23aseigo: http://imagebin.org/177687 - no littel diamonds :(
17:32.29aseigoah! strange.. ok.. here's what to do.. and this is very non-obvious indeed. you're going to laugh (and not in the good way ;)
17:32.43aseigosee where the list of places are? home, etc?
17:32.50hcc23jup
17:32.53aseigoright click in an empty area there and select "unlock panels"
17:33.06hcc23d'oh....
17:33.16hcc23But thanks a bunch...
17:33.39hcc23I guess that would have taken me days...
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17:38.02gColossushi, I am running ArchLinux + KDE
17:38.26gColossusand I recently allowed X apps via sudo by editing visudo
17:38.40gColossusand now I am having a whole bunch of random errors showing on Yakuake (terminal emulator)
17:38.45gColossusthe error can be found here
17:38.50gColossushttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/488379/
17:38.55gColossusany idea guys?
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17:46.37aseigogColossus: those are safely ignored. it's just noting that there are (non-critical) issues in various .desktop files on the system
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17:47.07gColossusaseigo: after I commented out # Defaults env_keep += "HOME" from visudo, the problem stop appearing
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17:47.31gColossusaseigo: what really caused the problem? besides, it randomly appears on Yakuake when I am not doing anything with it :(
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17:57.22agumonkeyhi yall
17:58.00agumonkeyanyone knows why a .desktop shortcut freeze the kdeinit launcher ?
17:58.01chandhii
17:58.25agumonkeyi tried to write one for a localy compiled emacs .. but I failed
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18:17.11agumonkeyfor a reason , I rewrote them and it works .. damn black magic
18:17.49jbwivis there a way to cause KDE to source your .bashrc on login?
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18:20.05agumonkeyyou can make kde run any script at startup
18:20.48agumonkeyput anything into ~/.kde/Autostart and it will run on login
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18:21.43agumonkeythat said .bashrc is mainly for bash, if you execute lots of desktop related stuff in it, maybe you should split it.. just sayin'
18:21.53jbwivagumonkey, can you source it in to the KDE environment tho?
18:21.56jbwivsure, I can split it
18:22.44jbwivagumonkey, but I'd like to export ENV vars in a script in Autostart. For example, JAVA_HOME and the path to java bins are set in my bashrc file currently. KDE doesn't know about them...and therefore can't launch java apps from menu items
18:22.54agumonkeywell I'm not good enough with kde / bash , but sourceing a file is mainly to initialize variables for bash, i dont know if KDE uses them at all
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18:23.58agumonkeymaybe write a script to wrap source .bash and java , then make the wrapper as a shortcut .. ( stupid idea )
18:24.14jbwivagumonkey, yeah, would rather not go there ;-)
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18:25.44agumonkeyfair enough
18:26.24jbwivon the gnome side, there was a file you could export env vars in (think it was .gnomerc or somethign)
18:27.01agumonkeywhy can't you use a console only system ..
18:27.09jbwivlol
18:27.15jbwivk
18:27.32pinotreefiles in ~/.kde/env/*.sh /yes, with .sh extension only) are sourced on kde startup
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18:27.45agumonkeywow, almost guessable
18:27.51jbwivpinotree, sweet. thanks!
18:27.58agumonkeydouble thanks
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18:30.45MrSassyPantsclient-error-bad-request trying to set up printers
18:30.49MrSassyPantswhats the problem?
18:32.43chandAny one with answer How to set UP canon ip1880 printer in Fedora
18:33.13Shaan7chand: hi, I think you'll get better answers to that on #fedora :)
18:33.47chandShaan7: thanks ..
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19:49.42tonymcvirtuoso is currently eating up a LOT of CPU (56% on i7). what can it be?
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19:50.35mefistofelestonymc: commonly, that virtuoso sucks
19:50.36mefistofeles:P
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19:51.18cb400ftonymc: try and disable strigi if you don't need/use desktop search
19:51.46cb400fusually it's some specific (type of) files causing problems with indexing
19:53.22tonymcturns out it was trying to index my source files... forgot to exclude
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21:23.13HaDAkthere's a big chance that i'm just an idiot here, but... i just upgraded kde to 4.7.1, and now my alt+f2 doesn't work. i can't seem to find any place where the shortcut is mentioned in the system preferences. any hints?
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21:25.00HaDAknevermind that... i found the setting. it's still set to alt+f2, but it doesn't pop up the run dialog.
21:26.46thiagoHaDAk: is krunner running?
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21:27.31HaDAkps aux reports that krunner isn't running.
21:27.40HaDAkhow do i start it?
21:27.54HaDAkoh. scratch that. running krunner threw tons of errors.
21:29.13HaDAkand it worked that time
21:29.15HaDAkawesome.
21:29.17HaDAkthanks for the suggestion
21:29.24HaDAki wonder why it didn't start when i logged in
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22:06.53daithefluhi, is there a reason why I can't login on forum.kde.org with my identity.kde.org credentials ?
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22:55.58scriptdevilIs there some sort of a way to communicate to a running KDE through a shell?
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23:17.31Sho_scriptdevil: define "communicate"
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23:18.33scriptdevilWell, I  mean something like "renameActivity XYZ"
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23:19.17Sho_It's possible that the activity manager has a D-Bus interface for that, yes
23:19.42scriptdevilOh well. DBus is all that I would need :)
23:19.45scriptdevilThanks
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23:40.14mister_mis there a way that KDE would hide gvim's menu bar?
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