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01:18.27 | daveb_ | ok, I want to send myself an email when a console goes silent, how can I do this? I wan't to check to see if someone knew of an easy (or already done) method, before I write something that uses python/dbus ... |
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01:19.01 | Sho_ | Konsole -> Settings -> Configure Notifications -> Silence in Terminal -> [x] Command: sendmail .... |
01:19.51 | daveb_ | Sho_: Awesome! Thanks |
01:19.59 | Sho_ | np |
01:20.27 | Sho_ | note that for the event to fire, you actually have to click "Monitor for silence" in the menu |
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02:02.38 | obsd123 | is there a supported way to "lock" the desktop on one application, i.e. firefox? |
02:03.17 | obsd123 | I want to demo a webapp locally, and I want to make sure people can't access anything else on the machine easily |
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02:36.08 | Zal | Hello. Can anyone direct me to the setting that controls whether or not to blur the inactive window title bar? |
02:36.17 | Zal | kde 4.5.5 |
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03:20.22 | Verge | Zal: I don't think there is such a thing |
03:20.28 | Verge | If it's blurred, it's a bug |
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04:27.33 | Marquel | morning. |
04:29.18 | Marquel | i have a little problem with kmail 4.7.1: mailing list auto detection seems to not work always, though there are mails in the corresponding folder stating the necessary mailing list information in their headers. unfortunately there's just "no mailing list found" error message, no details. what can i do about that? |
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04:52.43 | Kolia | Marquel: have you check the bug tracher about this? |
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05:36.05 | Marquel | Kolia: yes, nothing really helpful as it works at least for one folder, yet not for another. |
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05:57.36 | mah454 | Hello ... |
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05:57.55 | mah454 | I have big problem in KDE-4.7.1 |
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06:00.35 | mah454 | How can i disable nepomukindexer ? |
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06:00.57 | mah454 | this process get all space in my CPU ... .! |
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06:01.22 | hekmatof | mah454: go to system settings --> desktop search |
06:02.00 | hekmatof | mah454: uncheck the Enable Nepomuk Semantic Desktop checkbox |
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06:05.01 | Sho_ | actually uncheck the file indexing checkbox there .. |
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07:05.06 | zilti | Is it by now possible to get Kontact to start at startup in background instead of opening the main window? |
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07:22.18 | valorie | I have a question -- my netbook has had a problem starting up plasma desktop for many months |
07:22.30 | valorie | ever since 4.7, I think |
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07:22.53 | valorie | 4.7.1 didn't change it -- I always have to start plasma-desktop up in the console |
07:23.16 | valorie | is there a config file somewhere i can rename, to see if that fixes it? |
07:23.31 | valorie | upgrading to Kubuntu 11.10 beta didn't help either |
07:23.56 | valorie | everything else seems tip-top |
07:24.10 | valorie | and it doesn't happen in my laptop |
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07:43.12 | valorie | heh -- with the latest updates, I don't get a visible destop at all now |
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07:43.24 | valorie | good thing I set up yakuake |
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07:47.50 | valorie | sad, kmail is still broken |
07:47.52 | valorie | :( |
07:48.00 | valorie | I really would like to get it running again |
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07:58.06 | zilti | valorie: Why do you mean kmail is broken? |
07:58.28 | valorie | it won't even start |
07:58.47 | valorie | all I want is to set it up to do IMAP with my gmail |
07:59.18 | valorie | but I tried to set it up when I first upgraded to 11.10 beta |
07:59.38 | valorie | now it says: Kmail encountered a fatal error, and will terminate now. |
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07:59.50 | valorie | The error was: Failed to fetch the resource collection |
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08:01.25 | valorie | as soon as I say OK, it disappears |
08:01.42 | valorie | as I recall, I started it from Konsole, and got nothing more than that |
08:02.11 | valorie | yup |
08:02.18 | valorie | exactly the same error |
08:03.53 | valorie | urgh, maybe I can put the error into a pastebin from the console |
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08:05.16 | valorie | paste.kde.org/129055/ |
08:06.09 | valorie | http://paste.kde.org/129055/ |
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10:02.22 | Muarc_ | hello everyone |
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10:04.21 | Muarc_ | i'm having artifacts with KDE 4.x and an AMD/ATI card (i see parts of other windows whenever i open a program - it only shows until the new window starts redrawing itself) |
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10:04.36 | Muarc_ | i remember there was something to add to xorg.conf to fix it |
10:04.45 | Muarc_ | but i forgot the line and can't find that website anymore |
10:04.51 | Muarc_ | anyone knows anything about that? |
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10:55.16 | ct529 | hi guys. I would like to reset of my kde (471 on kubuntu 1104), without removing kamil and kontact configuration of course, or loosing local emails |
10:55.23 | ct529 | any clue |
10:55.25 | ct529 | ? |
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11:44.18 | bajk-tragbar | What do I need to do to set up SMTP on KDEPIM2/Akonadi? |
11:44.20 | bajk-tragbar | I have an IMAP but what do I need to send mail? |
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11:46.39 | zilti | bajk-tragbar: SMTP isn't done using Akonadi. You'll have to do that in KMail |
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12:20.57 | zilti | Hi |
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12:22.29 | mah454 | I have Problem with Community widgate . I can not login : open this window "Should the password be stored in the configuration file? This is unsafe." |
12:23.34 | mah454 | I click on continue ... ! but can not login .... ! |
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12:47.34 | JohnFlux | Hey all |
12:47.46 | JohnFlux | Where do I enabled middle-mouse-button emulate? |
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12:53.00 | JohnFlux | ah, figured it out |
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12:56.28 | mewshi | What's the KDE equivalent of file-roller? |
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12:58.28 | scummos | mewshi: ark |
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13:15.40 | ruurd | Ahem. I received an email of a certain kim wanting to veriry my email address... is that kosher? |
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15:34.55 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.7 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
15:35.51 | _dinsdale | my kde autostart programs are not starting upon startup since 4.7. Where should the autostart file be located and why does systemsettings don't create them? |
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15:38.30 | annma | _dinsdale: there is a module in systemsettings to manage your autostart |
15:38.47 | _dinsdale | annma: ah, good idea, let me check |
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15:41.24 | _dinsdale | hm,programs like dropbox, yakuake etc are in the Autostart module in systemsettings but it doesn't have any effect (appart from keepassx for some strange reason) |
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15:42.01 | _dinsdale | there is also no service manager which is responsible for the autostart to my knowledge. |
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15:42.45 | annma | hey don't autostart? |
15:42.49 | annma | they |
15:43.16 | _dinsdale | nop |
15:43.48 | _dinsdale | I have krunner, plasma-desktop, keepassx %f, those start |
15:43.58 | _dinsdale | but yakuake, dropbox don't start |
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15:45.46 | annma | why do you autostart plasma-desktop? |
15:45.56 | _dinsdale | I think they should be written in some folder afte you add them in the module, does anyone know the exact location where they should be located? |
15:46.00 | annma | should be at system level |
15:46.36 | annma | read the excellent doc of the autostart system settings _dinsdale |
15:51.25 | _dinsdale | hm, is it possible that my $KDEHOME is not existing, echo $KDEHOME doesn't return anything. |
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15:52.56 | annma | kde4-config __localprefix |
15:53.01 | annma | kde4-config --localprefix |
15:53.06 | annma | what does this return? |
15:53.35 | _dinsdale | /home/tom/.kde4/ |
15:53.47 | annma | so that's your $KDEHOME |
15:53.55 | _dinsdale | so it doesn't have to by a env variable? |
15:54.03 | annma | no |
15:54.09 | annma | what distro do you use? |
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15:54.17 | _dinsdale | according to the manual whatever is in .config/autostart will be synced to $KDEHOME/Autostart |
15:54.22 | _dinsdale | but that doesn't seem to be the case. |
15:54.51 | annma | autostart should read from both |
15:55.32 | _dinsdale | I use arch, it's a fresh install for 4.7, no upgrade |
15:55.44 | annma | why do you autostart plasma-desktop? |
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15:56.29 | _dinsdale | I think it was already in there for some reason, let me try disabeling it. |
15:56.36 | annma | no, no |
15:56.45 | annma | ask arch channel |
15:56.54 | _dinsdale | kk :-) thx so far. |
15:57.03 | annma | disclaims any potential damage |
15:57.26 | _dinsdale | no worries, I always get broken systems back, but those little papercuts always get me. |
15:57.35 | annma | ;) |
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15:57.50 | annma | mayeb I should mention kde4-config --localprefix in the doc |
15:58.33 | annma | explaining that $KDEHOME might not be set explicitely |
15:58.35 | _dinsdale | funniely enought scriptfiles do work when I add the to the autostart, it's just the desktop files. |
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15:58.50 | annma | yakuake should work |
15:59.07 | annma | dropbox I don't know |
15:59.20 | _dinsdale | it used to work on another installation on 4.6 |
15:59.24 | annma | they need to follow freedesktop standards |
15:59.27 | _dinsdale | just got the problem with 4.7 |
15:59.28 | annma | oh OK |
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15:59.43 | annma | autostart did not change in KDE 4.7 though |
16:00.03 | _dinsdale | no, must be some quirk in my configuration . |
16:00.22 | _dinsdale | but arch usually takes vanilla kde and doesn't change anything. |
16:00.43 | croepha | hey does anyone know how to increase the amount of time that the konsole has to be silent for it to think that it is silent? |
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16:10.59 | mah454 | Hello .... |
16:11.22 | mah454 | Why KDE-4.7.1 have not virtual Desktop ? |
16:11.55 | skfin | x |
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16:17.29 | srednaxx | mah454: it does ;) |
16:17.58 | mah454 | srednaxx: not work for me ! |
16:18.07 | mah454 | srednaxx: How can enable this ? |
16:21.04 | mah454 | Pager not work |
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16:27.16 | mah454 | I removed KDE Panel ... |
16:27.31 | mah454 | How can add this with terminal ? |
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16:30.17 | ct529 | I would like to reset completely my kde, but not the configuration of kmail, kontact and kwallet. How do I do that? |
16:30.26 | ct529 | kde 471 on kubuntu 1104 |
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16:31.48 | mah454 | ct529:backup from your configure and remove kde configuration |
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16:33.13 | ct529 | mah454: how? |
16:34.07 | mah454 | find configuration f your Programs on Home Directory . For example : find . | grep kmail |
16:34.11 | mah454 | and |
16:34.23 | mah454 | make backup with "cp" Command |
16:34.56 | mah454 | Now logout from system and goto Other Console with "Ctrl+Alt+F2" |
16:35.17 | mah454 | Login and remove configuration with "rm -rf .*" |
16:35.24 | mah454 | Note to dot |
16:35.29 | mah454 | Note to dot (.) |
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16:37.45 | ct529 | I do not understand .... do I haev to do everything manaully, or there is a command to restore the defaults? |
16:37.52 | ct529 | paola pettenuzzo |
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16:38.07 | ct529 | sorry, mah454, wrong line |
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16:39.14 | mah454 | ct529: ok |
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16:40.46 | ct529 | going back to it, I thought that there was a command to restore the deafults .... after the last update the wallett and many applications ar emaking my life rather difficult |
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16:43.19 | ar9 | does anyone know of a tutorial for window focus? |
16:43.38 | ar9 | trying to make password window always have focus at first |
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18:09.42 | ijkl | hi, is there any easy way to tell KDE to open *all* kinds of audio files with, say, VLC? |
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18:10.12 | ijkl | I don't want to manually set VLC as my #1 choice for audio files for each and every format out there |
18:10.29 | ChemBro | you have to |
18:10.35 | ijkl | seriously? |
18:10.39 | ijkl | blah |
18:10.45 | ChemBro | yes |
18:10.48 | ijkl | because i'd like to do that for video files, too |
18:11.07 | ijkl | and for text-like files so that they open in kate instead of geany |
18:11.15 | shevy | ijkl I am sure it is possible, I just don't know myself :) |
18:11.17 | ijkl | it'll take forever to change them all |
18:11.33 | ChemBro | not forever |
18:11.42 | ChemBro | 10 min |
18:12.13 | shevy | ijkl, perhaps this helps a little http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/kcontrol/filetypes/index.html |
18:12.40 | shevy | perhaps "kcmshell4 filetypes" |
18:13.16 | ijkl | thanks |
18:13.23 | ijkl | I'm already there though, but I just had an idea |
18:13.39 | ijkl | I could just wipe all the audio formats |
18:13.42 | shevy | hehehe |
18:13.49 | ijkl | and make a single one with a bunch of extensions |
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18:13.53 | shevy | the brute force approach is often the best |
18:13.54 | ijkl | I mean one that would unify them all |
18:14.38 | ijkl | because I currently have a ton of separate formats, each having its own application setting |
18:14.54 | ijkl | that might be remnants of old installations of gnome or something |
18:15.06 | ijkl | and it might not 'supposed' to be like that with kde |
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18:20.30 | ijkl | meh, turns out I "can't" delete file types |
18:20.53 | ijkl | oh well... i guess i can live with right clicking + "open as" |
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18:21.31 | ijkl | (I wonder how some associations got to be the way they are though... until i manually fixed that, jpeg files insisted on being opened by wine-explorer, seriously) |
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20:11.13 | jbwiv | can anyone tell me if KDE4 will work reliably across 3 monitors? (hosted by two nvidia cards)? |
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20:11.31 | thiago | I've never tried 3 |
20:11.35 | thiago | 2 have worked fine for years |
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20:15.06 | jbwiv | but going to three, it seems unity and gnome 3 have issues |
20:15.25 | jbwiv | thiago: yeah, I've had two monitors for years as well using nvidia's twinview |
20:15.32 | jbwiv | gnome classic can handle it, but it's sorta handicapped in ubuntu 11.10. |
20:15.39 | thiago | note that my nvidia twinview did not support three monitors |
20:15.47 | jbwiv | I'm willing to cut over to kde if it works. guess there's one way to find out |
20:15.47 | thiago | the laptop screen, VGA and HDMI |
20:15.58 | jbwiv | thiago: yeah, twinview only supports two monitors |
20:16.10 | jbwiv | to get to three, you have to use Xinerama and 3 separate x servers |
20:16.19 | jbwiv | works really well in gnome classic once you get it setup |
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20:50.33 | xsi | hello guys could someone help of any reason I can't see my icons on the desktop why? |
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20:52.49 | sinedeviance | xsi: did you just install kde4? |
20:53.18 | sinedeviance | cause if so, there won't be any icons on the desktop |
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21:00.07 | m_abs | Hey, I would like to add a custom session to KDM, how do I do that? I've tried to create a file in /usr/share/xsession/ but I still can't see the session in KDM even after reboot. |
21:00.20 | m_abs | I'm using debian wheezy and KDE4.6 |
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21:24.15 | nmvictor | First before all, kudos to all KDE developers. I just switched from Gnome to KDE and so far I am not complaning. |
21:24.18 | nmvictor | How do I install quickformatter to access it via Dolphine's context menu? |
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21:27.56 | antoniojasr | nmvictor: What distro you have?? |
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21:32.44 | nmvictor | ubuntu but I installed kubuntu-desktop so Im good to say I have Kubuntu |
21:32.52 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: ^ |
21:34.07 | antoniojasr | nmvictor: here: http://www.lffl.org/2011/02/quick-usb-formatter-formattare-la.html |
21:34.54 | antoniojasr | there are packages for you linux distribution, (sorry for my english xD) |
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21:35.40 | nmvictor | is their a Keyboad shortcut to restart dolphine? |
21:36.36 | pulgoki | nmvictor, i just switched too.. I didnt like it at first but now that I am getting used to it i am starting to like it better.. |
21:37.22 | pulgoki | if i can figure out how to get knode to load headers that are older than a few weeks i will be set... :) |
21:39.15 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: Is their a launchpad package. |
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21:40.31 | antoniojasr | nmvictor: i don't understand you :S |
21:40.33 | nmvictor | atomicfusion: The packages available are Natty and below, I am in oneiric. Is their a chance to stumble on my packages? |
21:41.56 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: or a command to restart Dolphine, Back in Gnome I could restart nautilus with `nautilus -q` |
21:43.03 | antoniojasr | nmvictor: i think than you don't need make that. |
21:43.50 | antoniojasr | only, close dolphin and open it. |
21:44.31 | antoniojasr | if you are in Oneiric and QuickUsbFormatter don't work |
21:44.39 | antoniojasr | you can compile the source code xD |
21:44.47 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: This is for some extra dolphine services I have downloaded, I cant see them in the Configure Dolphine>Services tab, |
21:44.50 | antoniojasr | it's easy |
21:45.17 | antoniojasr | nmvictor: which services?? |
21:45.28 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: if I compiled it, will it intergrate in Dolphine? |
21:45.28 | antoniojasr | give the names |
21:45.40 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: several, like vlc append. |
21:45.48 | nmvictor | vlc_append*. |
21:45.51 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: ^ |
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21:46.24 | antoniojasr | nmvictor: you want integrate quickusbformatter in the context menu of dolphin?? |
21:48.25 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: I havent compiled it yet, still downloading ..., I wanted to know if a compiled one would intergrate in Dolphine |
21:48.58 | antoniojasr | no |
21:49.42 | antoniojasr | QuickUsbFormatter haven't that stuff |
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21:49.46 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: You know what I wanted is a "Format" option in my context menu, Thats all |
21:50.42 | antoniojasr | nmvictor: I'm the programmer of QuickUsbFormatter and i don't add that feature to the software. |
21:50.55 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: I have a blog http://cakirerk.org/2011/06/11/quickformat-an-exciting-removable-disk-formatter-for-pardus/, that describes QuickUsbFormatter accessed from Dolphines context menu |
21:51.19 | antoniojasr | that is another tool |
21:51.27 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: sure/ |
21:51.29 | nmvictor | ? |
21:51.31 | antoniojasr | yes |
21:52.15 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: Sorry, well how do I get it in my KDE |
21:52.16 | nmvictor | ? |
21:52.47 | antoniojasr | nmvictor: let me check, wait a couple of minutes |
21:52.48 | antoniojasr | xD |
21:54.55 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: ok, im all patiant |
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21:57.35 | antoniojasr | nmvictor: open konsole |
21:58.58 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: am always at the console, unless konsole is another program |
21:59.10 | antoniojasr | ok |
21:59.16 | antoniojasr | nmvictor: nmvictor: get the source code with this command: svn checkout http://svn.pardus.org.tr/uludag/trunk/kde/quickformat/ |
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22:02.03 | nmvictor | I am installing svn |
22:02.16 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: give me a min or 2 |
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22:02.24 | antoniojasr | kk |
22:05.04 | nmvictor | am done |
22:05.23 | nmvictor | antoniojasr: ^ |
22:05.37 | antoniojasr | ok |
22:05.52 | antoniojasr | read the file called README |
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22:35.48 | dashavoo | hey - does kopete support video/audio chat in jabber? |
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22:37.00 | pinotree | nope |
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22:41.11 | dashavoo | pinotree: that is a shame :( |
22:41.25 | dashavoo | I got used to it as a gnome-user |
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22:54.03 | yates | i want to map a shortcut to open my preferred browser as if i invoked it from the menu (i.e., with the default site). but xdg-open expects a url, so e.g. "xdg-open &" won't work. how do i open my preferred browser to it's default startup configuration? |
22:54.18 | yates | its |
22:54.20 | leo_rockway | dashavoo: there's the Telepathy KDE thing now. |
22:55.15 | thiago | yates: there's no easy way |
22:56.32 | yates | thiago: tell me you're kidding. |
22:56.39 | thiago | yates: I'm not |
22:56.46 | yates | 2011, decades of open-source, and we can't open a default browser? |
22:57.07 | anisfarhana | thiago. |
22:57.11 | pinotree | `xdg-open about:blank`? |
22:57.29 | yates | pinotree: that's creative - lemme try it. |
22:57.43 | thiago | yates: you can open a URL in the default browser |
22:57.53 | thiago | yates: why do you want to open the default browser in its default location? |
22:58.50 | yates | thiago: at its root, configuration management |
22:59.07 | thiago | yates: so the root user can start browsing? |
22:59.07 | yates | for example, if i change my default homepage, i'd prefer to do it in just one place |
22:59.16 | yates | no |
22:59.24 | yates | thiago: i mean the root reason |
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22:59.42 | thiago | ok, so you want to change the default browser's default location |
22:59.49 | thiago | right? |
23:00.01 | yates | that's one reason, yes |
23:00.15 | thiago | that doesn't explain why you want to launch the browser in the current default location |
23:00.27 | yates | why doesn't it? |
23:00.55 | thiago | because launching it doesn't change the default location |
23:01.04 | thiago | it doesn't help you in any way changing it |
23:01.11 | yates | if i encode the default page in my xdg-open, and i want to change it, i'll have to change it in my browser's preferences (for when i open it with the menu) and in my shortcut |
23:01.47 | thiago | sorry, I don't follow |
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23:02.06 | thiago | if you run xdg-open with a URL, that URL will be launched, regardless of which is the default location in the browser settings |
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23:02.59 | thiago | if your application uses xdg-open to open a URL, its your application's settings that need to be changed |
23:03.47 | yates | let's say i want to change my default page from whatever is used to be to www.google.com. then i'd have to make two changes: one to the default browser's preferences to startup at www.google.com (for when i open the browser with the menu or from cli, instead of using my shortcut), and also in the shortcut key command as well. |
23:04.08 | leo_rockway | I understood perfectly what yates is saying. |
23:04.21 | leo_rockway | I'm trying to think if I can come up with a solution... |
23:04.36 | yates | leo_rockway: thank you. |
23:05.13 | thiago | yates: the shortcut doesn't launch the "default browser" |
23:05.16 | thiago | yates: it launches a browser |
23:05.34 | thiago | yates: the shortcut for firefox launches firefox, never konqueror |
23:05.40 | leo_rockway | thiago: he wants a shortcut that opens the default browser the user has. |
23:05.44 | leo_rockway | in this case, he's the user. |
23:05.45 | yates | thiago: sorry, wrong terminology. I should have said "the preferred browser" |
23:06.01 | leo_rockway | he also wants the browser to open with whatever home page he has set |
23:06.06 | yates | right |
23:06.12 | leo_rockway | it may be kde.org now, but it might be gnome.org tomorrow. |
23:06.25 | thiago | leo_rockway: that's what I said: there's no easy way. |
23:06.25 | leo_rockway | so if he calls xdg-open kde.org he's hardcoding it |
23:06.36 | yates | leo_rockway: exactly |
23:06.43 | thiago | yates: if you *really* need that, you can use "xdg-settings get default-web-browser" |
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23:06.46 | leo_rockway | he wants to avoid hardcoding the URL and just letting the browser go to the default home page. |
23:06.55 | thiago | yates: and then you need to find a way to launch the .desktop file that is listed there |
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23:07.19 | leo_rockway | I think thiago's way is the only way... and it's a weird hack o.o |
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23:08.08 | pinotree | xdg-open does not "open a browser", but "open the default handler for that url |
23:08.28 | thiago | pinotree: yes, but there's no equivalent to launch an application by type |
23:08.47 | pinotree | that's why a parameterless xdg-open invocation doesn't make sense - there's nothing to decide what to open |
23:09.30 | yates | xdg-open get default-web-browser doesn't work |
23:09.38 | thiago | yates: xdg-settings |
23:10.00 | yates | thiago: ah. now we peel back the onion layers... |
23:10.10 | leo_rockway | $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser |
23:10.15 | leo_rockway | it returns an empty line for me o.o |
23:10.22 | thiago | for me it says "mykonq.desktop" |
23:10.23 | yates | my current os, opensuse 11.4, doesn't use the latest xdg-utils package, so i don't have xdg-settings.. AHHH! |
23:10.34 | thiago | yates: you can also use the equivalent kreadconfig |
23:10.48 | yates | oh? lemme try that. cool. |
23:11.14 | thiago | kreadconfig --file filename --group groupname --key key |
23:11.24 | thiago | you need to find out what the proper values for filename, groupname and key are |
23:11.36 | thiago | search ~/.kde/share/config for the setting you're looking for |
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23:13.21 | yates | thiago: ok, let me look around - thanks all for the help |
23:13.28 | thiago | note that the setting might not be there |
23:13.56 | thiago | according to the comments in xdg-settings, if the setting isn't there, you need to look up the application that handles text/html |
23:14.40 | thiago | you know, there's a much simpler solution for this |
23:14.48 | thiago | make a shortcut to the location |
23:15.13 | thiago | then the *shortcut* is the setting of the default location |
23:15.24 | leo_rockway | ooh |
23:15.26 | leo_rockway | good point |
23:15.45 | leo_rockway | gives thiago a cookie |
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23:19.39 | yates | thiago: i don't follow what you mean by "make a shortcut to the location" |
23:20.27 | yates | you mean a keyboard shortcut, using e.g., custom shortcuts? |
23:21.21 | yates | then how would you configure that in the browser settings, which expects a url? |
23:21.44 | yates | ah. |
23:21.48 | yates | leo_rockway: ? |
23:22.45 | leo_rockway | yates: he means this: instead of calling your default browser and changing the home page in the default browser... |
23:22.53 | leo_rockway | you make your shortcut to the URL you want to be your home page. |
23:23.05 | leo_rockway | then the shortcut would automagically call the default browser |
23:23.22 | leo_rockway | by shortcut I mean menu shortcut, you can assign a keyboard shortcut to that menu entry. |
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23:24.44 | yates | leo_rockway: bleh. |
23:24.58 | yates | then i have to start it using this special menu shortcut? |
23:25.14 | leo_rockway | yes... but what's the difference? |
23:25.21 | yates | with the original applicaiton menu hanging around? |
23:25.26 | leo_rockway | what? |
23:25.55 | leo_rockway | I don't understand your question |
23:26.05 | yates | wait, i'm thinking... could take awhile... :) |
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23:26.53 | leo_rockway | you just disregard the home page setting of the browser you use |
23:26.59 | leo_rockway | and change the settings on the menu entry |
23:27.16 | leo_rockway | which turns into a shortcut to the handler of URLs |
23:27.16 | yates | i think i see |
23:27.23 | yates | yes |
23:27.42 | leo_rockway | you said "map" a shortcut, so I assume keyboard shortcut |
23:27.47 | leo_rockway | you can do that too. |
23:28.00 | leo_rockway | just assign a keyboard shortcut to the entry on the kmenu |
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23:28.51 | yates | but the "preferred application" paradigm is really for programs' sakes - the user _knows_ what web browser he wants to use, so, e.g., if he's going to open a web browser, he's going to open the direct menu item for the brower he prefers. |
23:29.32 | yates | but this is really splitting hairs. |
23:29.50 | leo_rockway | put a generic icon and call the shortcut "web browser" |
23:29.51 | yates | i just put the blasted default page in the shortcut... |
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23:30.16 | leo_rockway | and remove the shortcuts to other web browsers if they are confusing. |
23:30.31 | yates | leo_rockway: i see what you're saying - an 'indirect' for the user himself |
23:30.47 | yates | that is a solution. thanks. |
23:30.52 | leo_rockway | yup, the user doesn't know they are clicking on a URL shortcut |
23:31.01 | leo_rockway | they see a browser opening with the URL they want on home page. |
23:31.09 | leo_rockway | well, thiago came up with it, not me ^_^ |
23:31.29 | yates | the "right" way, i feel, would be to use the xdg-settings. eventually i think i'll do that when we go to 12.1, which i think will use the 1.1.x version of xdg-utils |
23:33.07 | yates | thanks for brainstorming |
23:33.21 | leo_rockway | np |
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