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01:03.06bsdfox_anyone using knetworkmanager? I'm on 4.7.0 with knetworkmanager 4.4.0 and it doesn't seem to do much. the widget doesn't show any connections or anything
01:03.27bsdfox_using the gnome nm-applet my NetworkManager stuff is working fine but I'd rather not deal with two keyrings
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01:21.26kurrata_hi, u have kde 4.7.1 i turned on tilling for it but it is kinda broken, most of the time it starts windows in floating mode full screen  not tilling them. anyone knows a fix for that?
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02:20.53winutplease fix this kde wide bug on osx! http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=92669 still affecting all versions, including 4.7.1
02:23.15winuthttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=263888
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04:58.26jamil_1hi all, is it possible to open a directory in kate ?
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05:58.58valoriejamil_1: when you say open, it then shows you the individual files
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06:00.49jamil_1valorie: I want to open all the files in a directory and sub dirs recurively
06:01.28valorieI just tried before trying to answer your question
06:01.38valorielooks like that doesn't work
06:02.12jamil_1I would be handy though
06:02.23jamil_1*it
06:02.41valorieI can see for text editing of HTML files or something
06:02.51valoriebut not seeing the use case otherwise
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06:03.50jamil_1can this feature be added via some plugin/script ?
06:04.16valoriewell, you could talk to the devels I suppose
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06:04.48valoriethere is a #kate chan
06:05.25valoriealso check out http://www.kate-editor.org - maybe there is such a plugin already
06:06.05jamil_1heading to #kate....thanks for the help though
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06:48.52adsIs it possible to scroll through all links (uris) in konqueror using dbus? (as in a script)
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07:43.48eeanis there an image viewer that would recursively display all images in a folder and its subfolders?
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07:45.45valorieI think one of them you can set on slideshow and choose the folders or tags
07:45.52valoriecan't remember which one though'
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09:26.01hi-towerhello!
09:26.15hi-towerI have a problem after migrating to kmail2...
09:27.03hi-towerDuring one of my first sessions under Kmail2, I "managed" to somehow delete/lose/make disappear my inbox...
09:27.13hi-towerI do not find a way to make it reappear
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09:28.09hi-towerhello Aaron
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09:39.53hi-toweranyone have an idea on how to rebuild an inbox into Kmail2
09:39.55hi-tower?
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09:45.54thiagore-download it from the IMAP server
09:46.32hi-towerthiago: i only have pop3 servers from my ISP
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09:47.00thiagocan you receive new emails?
09:47.31hi-towerwell kmail appears to poll the messages and store it in some inbox, but I cannot see that folder...
09:47.53thiagoit should be the KMail Folders or Local Folders
09:48.03hi-towerwell, negative
09:48.22hi-towerit used to be in the Kmail folders
09:48.39thiagoI don't know then
09:48.44thiagoI haven't used POP3 in 6 years
09:48.48hi-towerhmmm this is a real mystery
09:49.08hi-toweractually its really annoying to the point I will have to migrate the whole thing to thunderbird
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11:05.17hdevalenceI'm having an issue with Konsole where when I press "ALT", it inputs "ESC"
11:05.29hdevalencewhich is very annoying when using vim+latexsuite
11:06.27thiagoit inputs that when you press the Alt key?
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11:06.32thiagoor when you press Alt and something else?
11:07.00hdevalencethiago: for instance I press alt, release it, then press 'l'
11:07.22hdevalenceit exits insert mode and goes one char forward
11:07.59hdevalenceer, no release
11:08.01hdevalencesorry
11:08.14thiagowhat keyboard mode are you in?
11:09.04hdevalencethiago: do you mean the setting in the profile options for Input>Key Bindings?
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11:09.57thiagoyes
11:10.30hdevalenceIt's set to XFree 4
11:10.36thiagothen I don't know what is happening
11:10.43hdevalencebut changing it to "Linux" or "Solaris" don't help
11:10.44thiagothe Esc should be sent when you press another key
11:11.19hdevalencewith xterm it works properly
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11:11.54hdevalencethiago: how do I get it to not send an Esc?
11:12.08thiagohdevalence: 13:10 < thiago> then I don't know what is happening
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11:13.37hdevalencethiago, alight, thanks anyways
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11:22.07ratte1hi! I'm have a some problem with kde 4.7 on suse 11.4. in MyPaint layers are not highlighted.  http://itmages.ru/image/view/284740/87524621
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11:23.36kdepepoMyPaint is no kde application
11:24.33ratte1and?
11:24.40thiagoand we can't help you
11:24.46ratte1o
11:24.47thiagoif it's not a KDE application, we don't know how to fix it
11:24.48ratte1ok
11:24.58ratte1thanks
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11:52.31hdevalencethiago: do you know if Konsole has a setting like altSendsEscape in xterm?
11:53.16thiagono, I don't think it does
11:53.26thiagoAlt+letter sends Esc letter
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11:54.44hdevalencethiago: this is the behaviour I'm trying to disable
11:54.51thiagoyou cannot
11:54.58thiagoit's the default and unchangeable
11:55.24thiagowhat would you rather it send?
11:55.44hdevalenceAlt+letter?
11:55.47thiagoyes
11:55.51thiagoAlt+a sends Esc a
11:55.54thiago^[a
11:56.25hdevalencethiago: the problem is that vim's latexsuite uses alt+l for doing labels and parens
11:56.33hdevalenceso this behaviour is rather annoying
11:56.41hdevalencefor me
11:56.41thiagoAlt+l = Esc l
11:59.13hdevalencenot according to latexsuite
11:59.20thiagoyes it is
11:59.27thiagoit's always been that, it will always be that
11:59.46thiagowhat would you rather it send, simply 'l' ?
11:59.50thiagoif so, why don't you press 'l' ?
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12:01.02hdevalencehttp://vim-latex.sourceforge.net/documentation/latex-suite/altkey-mappings.html
12:01.47thiagothat doesn't say what the sequence in the terminal should be
12:01.47hdevalencewhether it's technically correct to use alt in this way doesn't matter to me. what matters to me is brace insertion, and konsole's behaviour doesn't let me do that.
12:01.51thiagowhat do you want the terminal to send?
12:02.11hdevalencewhatever xterm sends with altSendsEscape off
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12:02.17thiagowhich is... ?
12:03.32hdevalenceI have no idea. I just want Konsole to work the same way as an xterm in this regard, so that I can use my software
12:04.03thiagoI've never heard of Alt sending anything but escape
12:04.10thiagokonsole only supports that
12:04.19thiagoshould I point out that emacs works fine?
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12:05.39hdevalencethiago: this is also not helpful for me
12:05.46hdevalenceas I'm sure you're aware
12:06.09thiagoI'm saying that sending Esc has been the standard for two decades or more
12:06.17thiagomaybe you should fix vim to accept them instead
12:06.27thiagoevery single terminal application accepts them properly
12:07.45hdevalenceas I said before, what I care about is using my software in konsole the same way as in an xterm
12:08.00hdevalenceevidently this is not possible
12:08.37thiagoright, if your software depends on xterm-specific behaviour, by all means use xterm
12:08.41thiagodon't use other terminals
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12:14.38arkaschaQuestion: can I use the plasma desktop and the netbook surface of kde alternating without the setting interfering ?
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12:16.34arkaschaAnd on top: can I use the new (still beta) smartphone surface in the same way ?
12:17.02arkaschaI mean like having the same data available under all two (three) surfaces but being able to use what makes more sense currently ?
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12:22.19James147arkascha: all your application settings and user info will remain the same what ever interface you use... the only thing that will differ is the settings for each of the interface.
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12:44.3617SABFYTIkde 4 is BUGGY, kde 3 was not.  I have kde 4.6.5 with a Mageia Linux system.  Default setting of "Restore previous session" at logon.  I run kontact, quassel, vidalia all the time.  They are on when I shutdown, thus, "restore previous session" means that they should all start at the next logon, however, I constantly get a "kontact is running on another screen" message and do I want to continue or exit.  If I exit there is no kontact
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12:45.03thiago17SABFYTI: KDE 3 had lots of bugs
12:45.2117SABFYTIIn kde3, kontact started properly at logon and shut down properly at logout.  Kde 4 can't seem to handle its own integrated apps.
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12:45.28thiagoit can
12:45.31thiagoworks fine here
12:45.34thiagokontact starts fine, no dialog
12:46.22thiagoconsidering you're running Mageia, I'm not surprised you're having problems
12:46.2817SABFYTIThis same behavior occured in Mandriva with KDE 4 and now with mageia and kde 4.  NEVER happened with kde 3.x.
12:46.52thiagoI know how they package KDE. I cannot in good honesty recommend using their KDE build.
12:47.0617SABFYTIAll I want is for kontact to start at login, no complaints or messages, and shut down cleanly at shutdown.  How do I FORCE kontact to behave?
12:47.29thiagofix the problem in your local build or install
12:47.37thiagoit doesn't happen here -- has never happened ever since KDE 4.0
12:47.43thiagoso it's something on your end
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13:21.15apushi, which program does kde use for user mounting? i would like to query if a device is mounted via bash ... possible?
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13:23.47rdieterapus: I'd suggest parsing /etc/mtab or the output of the 'mount' command
13:24.29apusokay i've got encrypted partition ... and it doesn't always mount in the same directory ... not sure if i can get a certain parsing of mtab
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13:26.48rdieterapus: also, may be worth parsing the output from :  solid-hardware list  (and/or solid-hardware details 'udi' , if you know the udi of the device ahead of time)
13:27.35rdieterapus: another, using 'udisks' directly, may also be of some utility.
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13:28.49apusrdieter: thanks!
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13:53.17apusif mounted, udisks --show-info tells me luks-devce:\n holder: /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/dm_2d3    how can i now use that to find the correct luks device in /dev/mapper to query if mounted
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14:01.32rdieterapus: try solid-hardware details '/org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/dm_2d3' and look for presence of StorageAccess.filePath key?
14:01.59rdieterapus: ie, if null, implies not mounted (I think)
14:02.50apusrdieter: many thanks!
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14:48.05yecril71plThe Help buttion in KPackageKit is inactive
14:49.57yecril71plBug 278572
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14:50.24annmayecril71pl:is the doc missing?
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14:50.33pinotreepossibly it is
14:50.39yecril71plThe Help button is inactive
14:50.45annmaor is the doc there in KHelpCenter and it's just a matter of enabling the Help button?
14:51.01annmayecril71pl: I understand that but I ask you if the doc is present in KHelpCenter
14:51.08annmaplease check and answer
14:51.57yecril71plThe section "System.Configuration" is empty
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14:52.46annmaso you can write the doc maybe
14:53.17yecril71plI would need to know how it works
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14:53.32fips4dhi
14:53.38annmathat's the trick yes
14:53.42fips4danyone here using davical?
14:53.48annmaif I knew about it I would write the doc
14:53.58fips4dcalendaring works well, but how do i use carddav? the wizard only adds a calendar again, but not an address book..;)
14:53.58annmaI don't think I even have it in Suse
14:54.21yecril71plMy current problem is that KPackageKit does not support cascade removal
14:54.40annmawhat's your distro?
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14:54.46yecril71plopenSUSE 11.4
14:55.12annmame too
14:55.12yecril71plI tried installing gcc 4.6 and got a conflict in libgcc that KPackageKit was unable to solve
14:55.27annmawhat about zypper then?
14:55.39yecril71plzypper knew what to do
14:56.42annmaalways uses zypper in konsole
14:56.58yecril71plannma is a hacker
14:57.19annma;) well not really
14:57.39annmathe bug you seem to imply is not a doc bug though
14:57.57yecril71plI was looking for some documentation to tell
14:58.06yecril71plwhether it is openSUSE-specific or general
14:58.30yecril71plI will have to assume that it is specific to openSUSE
15:00.00yecril71plCommand line is for hackers; it is too easy to screw your system without a warning
15:00.15yecril71plall you need is to make a stupid typo
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15:00.51annmawell it asks you for confirmation
15:00.55DaemonFCthat's why you should be able to count to 21 without being arrested for indecent exposure before you move on to BASH
15:01.03yecril71plGeneral purpose systems need safe and intuitive UI tools to guide you
15:01.16annmayecril71pl: suse has Yast2
15:01.37yecril71plYou cannot install an RPM in YaST2
15:01.37annmaI just moved to Suse so I am not really sure what is Yast2 versus KPK
15:01.42annmaah
15:01.54yecril71plIt requires much preparation
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15:02.09DaemonFCyecril71pl: You call Yast safe and intuitive?
15:02.15DaemonFCyou poor poor thing
15:02.34yecril71pldid not call YaST safe and intuitive
15:02.55DaemonFCwell, use a Linux distribution that's not from a Microsoft partner
15:03.05DaemonFCand then refine your critique :)
15:03.19yecril71plLike Fedora?
15:03.43DaemonFCit's better than Suse
15:03.53DaemonFCbut whatever floats your boat
15:04.02yecril71plMaybe; I actually considered it
15:04.17annmalet's not flame about distros please
15:04.33yecril71plit was just easier for me to get openSUSE
15:05.08annmaI for sure blame the KPK devels for not having a doc and distros for not contributing to the doc as well
15:05.11yecril71plopenSUSE provides another thing that understands RPM
15:05.17yecril71plit is called KDE RPM View
15:05.31yecril71plit pretends to be able to install an RPM using YaST
15:05.46yecril71plbut in fact it cannot
15:05.49DaemonFCdoes it use QT 3 and or crash and or ruin your rpm database on the way out? :)
15:06.08annmaQt DaemonFC
15:06.10annmanot QT
15:06.27yecril71plNo, it just installs another package than you ask it to install :-)
15:06.38DaemonFCprogress
15:07.24yecril71plso KPK is the only GUI thing that can install an RPM at openSUSE
15:07.39yecril71plunless you are a hacker, that is
15:07.50DaemonFCit probably also starts up sometime today and doesn't crash
15:07.56annmawhere is KPK in KDE repository, yecril71pl, do you know?
15:08.07DaemonFCI notice they did give the NetworkManager applet control of the network again in 12.1
15:08.12pinotreeannma: in git, it's called "apper" (changed name)
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15:08.54annmapinotree: Oh OK thanks
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15:09.31annmayecril71pl: so Apper aka KPK is in KDE playground
15:09.44annmawhich means it's not fit for stable usage
15:10.12annmaand which also explains it has no doc yet
15:10.23yecril71plPerhaps it should not be included in the distro then
15:10.30annmawhen it's stable enough and has a doc it'll move in stable official release
15:10.37annmayecril71pl: that's the distro choice
15:10.59annmathat's why I said earlier the distro could help with the doc if they use it
15:11.53ruurdwho could tell me how I solve the problem that conflict resolution dialog stops responding to keypresses after a while?
15:11.54cb400fsince "the distro" in this case is a community distro yecril71pl could help with it ;-)
15:12.03ruurdwhat part of kde is that? akonadi?
15:12.14DaemonFCOpenSuse and documentation....... you want OpenSuse *and* documentation?
15:12.19DaemonFCthere's no pleasing some people
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15:12.38annmacb400f: I meant people deciding about which soft to include
15:12.54annmacb400f: one cannot write a doc without knowing the app as yecril71pl said
15:13.05annmaor I would write docs everyday
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15:13.57cb400fdunno about that.. and you can learn the app
15:14.25yecril71plThe documentation is a binding contract between the developer and the customer
15:14.36cb400fbut I suspect this particular case is about documentation of weird corner case bugs ;-)
15:15.00tcbHi there. My konsole takes about 2-3 secons till it is ready for input -- about half for window-creation, and then till the prompt is ready again.
15:15.07annmacb400f: no you can't
15:15.12yecril71plso a customer can hardly create the documentation out of observable behaviour
15:15.12cb400falso I guess the documentation might vary a bit for different packagekit backends
15:15.14annmaI mean it's very hard
15:15.31annmacb400f: the doc is to bewritten by devels
15:15.52cb400fyecril71pl: first of all, you're not a customer.. secondly, this is free software, you can talk to the developer on irc and mailinglists
15:16.04annmacb400f: he did
15:16.16yecril71plIf something is written in the documentation, and the application does not behave accordingly, it is a bug
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15:16.34pinotreeand if the documentation is mistaken?
15:16.35annmayecril71pl: taht's why there's no doc, so there's nobug!!!
15:16.36yecril71plThis way, writing documentation can introduce bugs
15:17.20yecril71pland the developers will not be happy about introducing artificial bugs because of a misunderstanding in the documentation
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15:18.49yecril71plUsually, only the developer can say whether the documentation is mistaken or not
15:19.45annmawhen I write docs I find lots of bugs
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15:20.28annmaso devels think they should have written  the doc themselves instead of being pestered by me
15:20.31yecril71plcb400f: do all customers pay?
15:21.43yecril71plEnglish is not my first language, I may have misused the word
15:23.04cb400fwell.. you clearly have a consumer mentality .. and you should change that ;-)
15:23.10cb400f.. to a community mentality
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15:23.28yecril71plWhere anything goes?
15:24.40cb400fwhere you scratch your own itches
15:25.41yecril71plWell, KPackageKit is not my itch ATM
15:26.19yecril71pland I am physically unable to address a thousand bugs at the same time
15:26.34DaemonFCthen don't use OpenSuse :)
15:26.43annmaDaemonFC: stop it please
15:27.05yecril71pleach bug in a different application, with different management habits, coding style and supporting technology
15:27.18DaemonFCwhat? telling him it's not friendly to new users? editing configuration files as root to make your GPU work is not friendly
15:27.35DaemonFCif he expects user friendly he should use software that is
15:27.48annmaDaemonFC: it's not the place here to flame distros, it's disrespectful
15:28.26cb400fis quite curious what distro DaemonFC would recommend so he can rofl
15:29.31DaemonFCone that doesn't have tons of bugs, outdated software, package management that breaks the entire system, that's a good start
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15:29.43DaemonFCI'm not recommending a specific one, but plenty of them satisfy that
15:30.01annmaweird that OpenSuse is widely used in enterprizes then
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15:30.07DaemonFCgood for them
15:30.11yecril71plMost of the bugs are upstream bugs
15:30.14annmayeah, very very good
15:30.26yecril71plthey affect all distros unless patched
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15:31.11yecril71plEnterprises use SUSE because of CIFS integration
15:31.47ruurdyecril71pl: heuh?
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15:31.57yecril71plThere are business management tools that run only on Microsoft Windows
15:32.06yecril71plnot to mention AutoCAD
15:32.09ruurdYes I know what CIFS is.
15:32.19DaemonFCthings that incompetent distributions do can reflect poorly on upstream projects, but only the ones without tons of money to pay off the upstream with tend to get called out on it
15:32.23DaemonFClike Debian/Firefox
15:32.25ruurdI'm doubting that would be the reason to run openSUSE
15:32.43DaemonFCI have a feeling it's probably going on here too ;)
15:32.53yecril71plwas talking about SLED
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15:33.23ruurdThey run SLED because they can buy support and then can point fingers to a third party.
15:33.53yecril71plYou can buy support from RedHat as well
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15:34.43ruurdThat is why ISPs run stupid old CentOS all the time...
15:35.04yecril71plMy ISP runs NetBSD
15:35.49DaemonFCmy ISP runs on a hamster in a wheel and lots of federal bailout money B-)
15:36.07ruurdyecril71pl: Oy vey
15:36.46cjaekde 4 needs the option in the taskmanager options (per program) (right click menu) to be able to move windows that are maximized, without having to uncheck maximize them first. Just like being able to grab the title bar of a window and move it.
15:36.59ruurdsometimes I wonder why ISP and enterprises have difficulties spelling obsolete and secure and obscure
15:37.36ruurdgrab the title bar and move it to the top edge of the desktop
15:37.46cjaefor both gtk and qt please
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15:38.10yecril71plnever rises to that level of abstraction
15:38.47cjaeum its is for moving windows that have not opened on a turned on screen
15:38.53cjaeit is
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15:41.18cjaeeg. you have one monitor and one tv via hdmi, the tv is not on, when you open firefox it opens to the tv screen in maximize, instead of going to turn on tv, you right click its box in the taskmanager, then you find out you need to uncheck maximize before you can move it
15:41.44cjaeto the working screen
15:42.02ruurdcjae: AFAIK that also works for gtk apps. Decoration is kwin, remember?
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15:43.00ruurdcjae: can you pick it up in de pager applet?
15:44.14cjaeim not sure how I would move the title bar to top edge of screen, if the screen was not on
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15:48.53cjaeeg. both my screens are one big desktop on each workspace, the monitor on the left and tv on the right
15:50.19cjaethank you
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16:06.54systemclientmy session always starts to the wrong keyboard layout. It selects the middle one out of three. How can I set it to my default one?
16:08.29annmasystemclient: do you restore your session?
16:08.34systemclientannma: no
16:08.38systemclientannma: I create a new one
16:09.41annmais the one you want on top of the layouts list?
16:09.55systemclientyeah
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16:10.22annmaweird
16:10.29systemclientyep
16:10.42systemclientI even added greek as a third one and it still selects the second
16:10.47systemclientwhich would be the standard for my locale
16:10.51systemclientbut I want no dead keys …
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16:13.10annmaI tried here to add another layout and it's kept
16:13.18annmawhat are your 3 layouts?
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16:19.12systemclientde_dead, de, gr
16:19.38systemclientsry, you did not call my name, so I did not get back that soon, annma
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16:20.41annmano problem
16:21.25annmaso de_dead is a German with what?
16:21.48systemclientif I press ´, it will print it, instead of starting composin
16:21.49annmaI can't even label it as de_dead
16:21.59annmawhat layout is it in the list
16:21.59systemclientI just labeled it "tot"
16:22.19annmawhat variant is it?
16:22.35systemclientthe Layout is "German" and the Variant is "disable dead keys"
16:22.42systemclientor eliminate, i am not sure
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16:23.44annmalet öe test but I lqbelled one de8 qnd I don4t see the 8 in the icon
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16:24.01annmaobviously I was using de
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16:24.33systemclientwhy is your de so weird?
16:24.40systemclientwhat is your native locale?
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16:25.44annmaso tot is top for you
16:25.50annmaand it starts with de
16:25.57annmalet me try
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16:27.15systemclientI am back, whatever that just was …
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16:38.55coyois it normal for kde to crash in multiple ways when the system partition is utterly full, as in, 0 space left?
16:40.48coyoor is it just me?
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16:45.07yecril71plhad it once and KDE did not crash
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16:53.03rdietercoyo: disk full is generally bad, so crashes are not unexpected, esp if /tmp/kde-<username> /var/tmp/kdecache-<username> can't be created
16:53.23rdieteror symlinks in ~/.kde/ to those tmp targets
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16:58.29coyordieter: i see.
16:58.45coyofigured it was something like that
16:59.10coyokwin crashed about a hundred times
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17:32.25delightI use network-manager-pptp-kde to log into a vpn. I would love to configure it in a way that only that i could still use my "real connection" for the internet and only the vpn-routers only for hosts in the vpn
17:32.25delightis this possible (distro is kubuntu 11.04)
17:32.27delight?
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18:23.11dknightWhen I change desktop splash screen and restart I am getting a black screen only. Same is the case with kdm theme. please help me find the issue and fix it.
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18:40.35oldcpuIn KDE4 - if the virtual destkops (in bar at screen bottom) were removed - how can they be added back ? [configure desktop still says there are 2 desktops even though the virtual desktop control is missing) ?
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19:04.38dyrvereNo disrespect but I've been having things under obervation now for about 10 years, I get less calls for help when people were using windows really. :p
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19:05.19cb400fprolly cuz they call someone else half the time
19:05.29cb400fwhereas on linux they only have you to call ;-)
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19:05.31dyrvereand hey, what about that rumor Linux code on Windows 8? :)
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19:46.32dyrvereand konqueror does not like the adobe flashplugin 11 RC for 64-bit... :p it crashes alot.
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19:48.51ChemBroTronand other browsers don't have this problem, dyrvere? I thought, flash 11 is a big mess
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19:51.51dyrvereChemBroTron: Well atleast it doesn't crash Firefox just the plugin. Only tried Firefox and Konq tho'. And yes, flash has always been a mess, especially on anything not Windows. :)
19:52.19ChemBroTronwell, okay, that is a feature of firefox
19:52.36dyrvereand even windows will do away with flash and replace it with Silverligth and HTML5 so.. HAHA
19:52.46ChemBroTronbut i read, that there are big bugs reported for flash 11 for linux and adobe doesn't care
19:53.50dyrvereWell, makes me even less excited about a possible announcement of Photoshop CS on Linux ;)
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19:55.00dyrverego Krita and GIMP, from programmers we can trust :)
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20:14.04messertingRegarding my question on how to sync a non-default google calendar in kdepim 4.7, this worked for me: http://www.dennogumi.org/2011/06/access-multiple-google-calendars-from-korganizer
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20:33.24dyrverehehe it's fun seeing strigi go off every time something adds to the konversation logs :)
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20:39.26litbhello all
20:39.36litbhow can I disable the mysqld usage of akonadi?
20:39.43litbI want it to use something less resource hungry
20:39.51litbit freezes my system for seconds sometimes
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21:07.07deathwingI'm on KDE 4.6.5, when I logout I see only only a black screen with cursor and don't appear kdm to login again with a different user, how can I fix this?
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22:08.24RingtailedFoxheya, guys.. i'm having some issues in changing the colour of text on an application's title bar
22:08.46RingtailedFoxinstead of having dark grey on black (very hard to see), i'd like it to be gold on black (easier to read)... how do i do this/
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22:24.01DaZkcmshell4 colors >colors > active titlebar text? :x
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22:27.00stonedhello hello
22:28.27RingtailedFoxdaz: no such option for colors
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22:29.30DaZhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/1072330/snapshot261.png
22:29.32DaZyou sure? :x
22:30.45RingtailedFoxyeah, pretty sure. i don't see it
22:31.26DaZmaybe it's switched to different color set? :x
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22:33.47RingtailedFoxthere we go... colours is a seperate app entirely
22:33.51RingtailedFoxthanks, daz. :)
22:35.51RingtailedFoxis there a way to bold the text?
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22:38.14DaZsystemsettings >application appearance > fonts
22:38.24DaZwindow title :f
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22:43.01Nickeeh_I'm on Arch, KDE 4.7.0, and am wondering why KWrite takes up 10GB of ram when loading and viewing a CSV of 1.6GB.
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22:45.31cordellNickeeh_: you could file a bug report to bugs.kde.org about an overflow
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22:46.15RingtailedFoxgrrr.... now it's black on black.. this is impossible to use
22:46.59RingtailedFoxand i don't see "applicaiton appearance"
22:47.32DaZwhat kde version? :x
22:47.41RingtailedFox4.6.5
22:48.26DaZkcmshell4 fonts? :x
22:48.27RingtailedFoxthe dekoration has black active text, and grey inactive text for titles
22:48.35RingtailedFoxnone of what you say exists
22:49.04DaZdunnolol then.
22:49.08RingtailedFox?
22:49.30RingtailedFoxi have a feeling you're trolling
22:49.53DaZlikewise actually :f
22:49.59RingtailedFoxi'm not
22:50.01cordellRingtailedFox: whatcha trying to change?
22:50.26DaZfonts in titlebar :x
22:50.27RingtailedFoxi'm trying to customize the colour of the active and inactive text for my deKorator themes' title bars (at the top, where it says "xchat" or "konqueror"
22:50.42RingtailedFoxsince the theme i selected has a jet black background, i want the text to be gold, not grey or black
22:50.48RingtailedFoxand bold, if possible
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22:51.41RingtailedFoxin kde 3.5, it was easy to do, as everything was in one simple place
22:52.12DaZstill is, in systemsettings :f
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22:53.36RingtailedFoxnot really, no
22:53.41cordellah, cant help you there i started KDE at 4.4.5
22:53.50RingtailedFox*nods*
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22:54.01RingtailedFoxwell, i've been using KDE 4.0 since it came out... but i've always had this issue
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23:51.22BarkingFishGood morning all :)  I wonder if someone would be kind enough to help me for a couple of minutes. I'm using the latest version of KDE, 4.7.0, and in Dolphin, I no longer have the option to Copy to or Move to in the context menu.  Has this been disabled by default, or removed from Dolphin entirely please?
23:52.01nicklas_does the kde network manager have support for tethering?
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23:53.43BarkingFishsorry for the bother guys, apparently it's disabled by default in my OS, Kubuntu.  Don't know whether it is elsewhere though :) Thanks anyway.
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23:53.48nicklas_BarkingFish: do you have the menu?
23:53.59nicklas_ah you fixed it?
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