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| 00:20.03 | qop | problem building an app: http://dpaste.com/599980/ |
| 00:20.16 | qop | the output is kind of cryptic to me |
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| 00:33.39 | ugg | kmail2 4.7.0 is not storing anything in my sentmail folder. Anyone have ideas on how to fix this? |
| 00:34.29 | ugg | on gentoo |
| 00:35.04 | ugg | back end is mysql not sqlite |
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| 00:48.07 | bashir | Hey, I know this is probably common thing to hear but I want to get started contributing to KDE project. I have just finished an MS in computer engineering and do C++ full time at work. I have been using linux for like 8 years but havent really done much in terms of Linux specific development. |
| 00:48.32 | bashir | are there any subprojects/teams that need extra people |
| 00:48.56 | bashir | it will probably take me some time to get up to speed with the code base but im interested |
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| 00:51.54 | bashir | somehow this channel has fewer users than arch linux |
| 00:53.36 | fenugreek | bashir: not all that surprising |
| 00:53.48 | fenugreek | bashir: if you just want to dive in, find a KDE-related bugzilla and start closing things |
| 00:56.34 | Leoneof | most KDE programs are in C++, right? |
| 00:57.26 | bashir | fenugreek ok that sounds good. since it takes so long to read/understand the code for a large existing project are there any projects you would recommend starting with |
| 00:57.46 | bashir | maybe one that has fewer people bugtracking for |
| 00:58.44 | bashir | what would be really cool is if there was a mentor program where existing users essencially guide new contributors to places where they will be productive |
| 00:59.09 | fenugreek | Leoneof: I'd wager, yes |
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| 00:59.31 | fenugreek | well |
| 00:59.46 | fenugreek | if you're helping to close bugs that haven't been resolved yet... obviously they've been comparatively neglected |
| 01:00.05 | bashir | fenugreek good point |
| 01:00.06 | fenugreek | I don't know the rules, but you might be able to get into a google summer of code thing, too |
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| 01:09.51 | ugg | with gentoo, kde 4.7.0, kmail2 neither the sentmail or drafts folders work. Mail is not stored in sendmail after its sent, nor does storing as draft save a the message. Does anyone have an idea on how to fix this (other than reverting to kmail1)? |
| 01:11.46 | fenugreek | ugg: with kde-base/kmail-4.7.0 ? |
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| 01:11.50 | ugg | I had to switch to mysql as a backend, along with disabling full text indexing almost everywhere, to get kmail2 to work at all. |
| 01:12.45 | ugg | Installed versions: 4.7.0(4)(01:02:42 AM 28/07/11)(handbook kontact multilib_abi_amd64 -aqua -debug -kdeenablefinal -multilib_abi_x86 -test) |
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| 01:14.26 | fenugreek | ugg: have you done an emerge -DNatuv world && revdep-rebuild -av lately? |
| 01:14.52 | ugg | full text index is just not pratical with 350000 messages in kmail1 formatted maildir - espically since one folder has kernel patches in it... |
| 01:17.15 | ugg | fenugreek I run: "emerge --keep-going --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world" With this version of portage revdep-rebuild shoud not be needed often if at all |
| 01:17.44 | ugg | Installed versions: 2.2.0_alpha51-r1[2] |
| 01:17.48 | fenugreek | indeed |
| 01:17.49 | ugg | of portage |
| 01:17.58 | fenugreek | so 'yes' =P |
| 01:18.35 | ugg | I am fairly sure the box is up to date from a gentoo perspective |
| 01:19.49 | ugg | IMHO full text indexing is _much_ over rated. |
| 01:21.41 | ugg | there are two inboxes in Local Folders, both for pop3. Along with my archive folder (kmail1 maildir) |
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| 01:26.18 | fenugreek | IMO most things that are rated are over rated |
| 01:26.30 | fenugreek | I regularly enough want to search entire text, however |
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| 01:41.56 | Aishiko | OK I have a dual monitor set up one is 1024x768 and the other is something like 1440x1024 or something like that, but I can not get the smaller (secondary monitor) to display a panel, or have the system title bars on programs. It is a seperate X server per monitor does anyone have any clue? I would have thought that this issue would have been fixed since release of KDE4 |
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| 01:42.11 | Aishiko | It worked fine in 3.5.9 |
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| 02:50.11 | chetnick | sice I upgraded to 4.7 days of the week in digital clock calendar overlap. http://i.imgur.com/YKRjs.png |
| 02:50.16 | chetnick | Any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 04:45.40 | shadowbane | Does anyone here have experience with plasma-desktop messing up when decreasing the number of connected monitors? |
| 04:46.15 | shadowbane | I am on ArchLinux using the latest KDE releases and Catalyst gfx drivers |
| 04:47.16 | shadowbane | When plasma starts and only one screen is connected plasma still starts 2 desktops instead of the one that is required. The screen size and orientation control in systemsettings sees the monitor correctly |
| 04:47.43 | shadowbane | I also created a new xorg.conf (using the AMD autogen tool) but that didn't help |
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| 04:48.55 | derric | I just installed the latest flashplayer in firefox 5 and now I have no sound |
| 04:49.20 | shadowbane | are you using pulseaudio? |
| 04:49.23 | derric | I see adobe has included some file for kde 4 with the flashplayer lib |
| 04:49.32 | derric | pulseaudio? |
| 04:49.44 | derric | I'm using a usb sound card |
| 04:49.44 | shadowbane | An audio server that does mixing and stuff |
| 04:49.57 | derric | alsa. |
| 04:50.26 | shadowbane | I had issues where flash was messing up because I didn't have the lib32 alsa utils package installed recently |
| 04:50.46 | derric | Lemme check that. |
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| 05:01.59 | derric | do you mean alsa-lib? |
| 05:02.06 | shadowbane | possibly |
| 05:02.13 | derric | The 32 bit version |
| 05:02.16 | shadowbane | on arch the package is alsa-utils |
| 05:02.47 | derric | There's also some alsa tools packages |
| 05:05.12 | derric | Does the flashplayer generate any debugging messages? |
| 05:06.29 | shadowbane | not that I know of |
| 05:07.16 | shadowbane | can flash play through your internal sound card? |
| 05:12.21 | derric | I looked all over adobe for intallatoin instruxtions. They just said put the lib in the plugin folder. |
| 05:15.31 | derric | I did have pulseaudio installed. |
| 05:15.40 | shadowbane | if your usb audio device isn't the only one it could be trying to use the other one. |
| 05:16.48 | derric | It is the only one at the moment. The on board codec is disabled in bios |
| 05:17.11 | derric | I could try reenableing that one and pulling out the usb cord. |
| 05:17.40 | derric | The whole setup worked fine before I upgraded the flash player lib. |
| 05:18.36 | shadowbane | is all of your audio broken, or just flash? |
| 05:19.01 | derric | Just flash. How do I read current logs? |
| 05:19.11 | shadowbane | logs for what? |
| 05:19.36 | derric | like kern, messages etc. All I seem to be able to read is the old ones. |
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| 05:19.54 | derric | when I try to nano the curent one they just show up blank. |
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| 05:21.01 | shadowbane | what distro and did this upgrade come through the package manager? |
| 05:22.21 | derric | debian and I used dselect. Then when I notice the absence of sound, I uninstalled the debian package and manually put in the adobe provided lib. |
| 05:22.34 | derric | same result.. silence. |
| 05:23.17 | shadowbane | sounds like a debian issue. they kde stuff in flash is just for desktop compatibility and doesn't deal with sound. |
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| 05:23.45 | shadowbane | is your usb audio hw0? |
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| 05:24.23 | shadowbane | the flash people could have been dumb and specefied a deviece to use instead of default |
| 05:24.53 | derric | It turns out to be /dev/dsp1 whick I made a sym link /dev/dsp point to. |
| 05:25.12 | shadowbane | they are using OSS for flash? |
| 05:25.27 | shadowbane | where are you getting a crazy OSS supporting flash? |
| 05:25.50 | derric | No oss, just alsa with oss emulation. |
| 05:26.23 | derric | I jsut built the kernel myself. |
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| 05:26.42 | shadowbane | if your card is at /dev/dsp instead of being hw:0 or some such you have some crazy stuff going on. Flash only supports alsa so far as I know. |
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| 05:27.10 | derric | what is hw:0 |
| 05:27.27 | shadowbane | a alsa device |
| 05:27.34 | shadowbane | don't know where on the fs it is |
| 05:28.48 | derric | it could be there too. I only found out about dev/dsp1 becaue mplayer by default looks for /dev/dsp, and it was creating like a two second delay in the audio until I sym linked /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp1 |
| 05:29.17 | derric | Actually I make a udev rule to do it. |
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| 05:30.40 | shadowbane | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.46 | derric | What distro do you use? |
| 05:30.54 | shadowbane | I use archlinux |
| 05:31.33 | derric | That were the kernel put it. |
| 05:31.42 | shadowbane | ? |
| 05:31.52 | derric | I could try taking out the oss compatability emulation. |
| 05:32.12 | derric | I doubt it would help though. |
| 05:32.44 | shadowbane | yeah, I doubt that would do anything |
| 05:33.01 | derric | And it did work until I upgraded flash. |
| 05:33.28 | shadowbane | I would check distro-specefic stuff and see if they have any help. |
| 05:33.52 | shadowbane | or maybe ask in the alsa channel |
| 05:33.59 | derric | I just came from #devian, they're clueless at the moment. |
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| 05:34.12 | derric | s/devian/debian |
| 05:34.46 | derric | This seems like a common problem, There's all kind of reports of it. |
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| 05:37.11 | derric | I though because of the kde specific file included the the adobe package someone here might know what there aro for. |
| 05:37.51 | derric | I guess I'll go searh the web some more... |
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| 05:45.28 | derric | Hmm, I just found something. Pulse audio has to be running. you did mention that. |
| 05:45.56 | derric | I just set up a few thing for that. We'll see in a minute. |
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| 05:54.06 | shadowbane | anyone here able to help with plasma-desktop failing? |
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| 05:55.09 | derric | That was it. I set up pulseaudio and launched the deamon, et viola it works! |
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| 05:56.04 | shadowbane | pulseaudio is fairly nice. nowhere near the broken mess some claim it to be |
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| 06:04.55 | derric | So what exactly did I just do therece the sound server on my machine |
| 06:06.19 | derric | I do multitrack stuff, I had my system down to 4ms of audio latency before I decided to upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I lost contol of my mouse and keyboard there for a while. |
| 06:07.23 | derric | The should have been replaee the sound server. |
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| 06:13.37 | shadowbane | When using consumer level audio applications it is good to use pulseaudio. For serious audio work I would recommend using jack, which pulse auido needs to be suspended for. It is possible to route pulseaudio through jack, and the ArchLinux boards have some good info on that. |
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| 07:31.19 | gnumdk | Since KDE 4.7, "read/unread mails" is broken in KDEPIM |
| 07:31.23 | gnumdk | any idea ? |
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| 07:34.39 | leo_rockway | gnumdk: cannot reproduce. |
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| 07:36.06 | gnumdk | leo_rockway: imap ? |
| 07:36.14 | leo_rockway | oh... no. |
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| 07:40.06 | leo_rockway | gnumdk: this? https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=kmail |
| 07:40.08 | leo_rockway | oops |
| 07:40.15 | leo_rockway | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277246 <--- this |
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| 07:43.25 | gnumdk | leo_rockway: yes |
| 07:44.11 | leo_rockway | gnumdk: then upvoting the bug and leaving a comment to help confirm it should be useful. |
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| 08:10.41 | silver_hook | Meh, settings for window transparancy still don't persist when closing and opening the window again :( |
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| 08:16.01 | fenugreek | silver_hook: have you read they're supposed to? |
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| 08:32.30 | dv_ | hello |
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| 08:32.52 | dv_ | i am using kde 4.6, and sometimes, the desktop icons in the pager turn red |
| 08:33.51 | dv_ | like this: http://i.imgur.com/OiVcr.png |
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| 08:34.16 | dv_ | what does this mean if the pager icons turn red? i cant find it documented anywhere |
| 08:34.41 | fenugreek | I've read a thing from someone suggesting such a feature for indicating an error bell notice |
| 08:34.43 | fenugreek | shrugs |
| 08:35.34 | fenugreek | probably not that, though =P https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280256 |
| 08:35.44 | fenugreek | unless it was already implemented |
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| 08:47.28 | dv_ | yeah but it stays red |
| 08:47.36 | dv_ | all the desktops |
| 08:47.47 | dv_ | except the currently visible one |
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| 08:51.49 | fenugreek | I don't see how that could be anything but a feature |
| 08:51.59 | fenugreek | unless KDE has started taking patches from Opera developers |
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| 09:26.19 | silver_hook | fenugreek: I know that if I set it via RMB â Opacy it shouldn't. |
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| 09:26.56 | silver_hook | fenugreek: But if I set it via RMB â Advanced â Special (Window|Program) Settings I guess it should. |
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| 09:27.50 | silver_hook | ...since all other options there persist, it would only make sense that the opacity settings should as well :P |
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| 09:28.57 | Tontimer | Hi |
| 09:29.09 | Tontimer | does anyone here use Bangarang media player? |
| 09:29.10 | fenugreek | Tontimer: hello |
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| 09:29.22 | fenugreek | Tontimer: yes we all do |
| 09:30.30 | fenugreek | ha, I quite like this explanation: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html#anyone |
| 09:31.26 | Tontimer | Ok well, I have Nepomuk activated and I've already set my media partition to be indexed by nepomuk but it has just indexed 6 files and none of them is music... |
| 09:31.51 | Tontimer | fenugreek: sorry I didn't know if this player was well known |
| 09:32.08 | Tontimer | so I asked :p |
| 09:32.56 | Tontimer | I have nepomuk actiuvated but strigi disabled |
| 09:34.28 | fenugreek | names these days, honestly =P |
| 09:35.02 | fenugreek | wonder if there are more people in #bangarang at another time of day |
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| 09:37.51 | Tontimer | So... How i configure it? I'm looking for a wiki or something but I can't find anything... |
| 09:41.31 | Tontimer | fenugreek: cmon, I can see you're a nice guy ;) |
| 09:42.25 | fenugreek | Tontimer: what distro? |
| 09:42.34 | Tontimer | Gentoo |
| 09:42.42 | Tontimer | amd64 |
| 09:43.17 | fenugreek | Tontimer: emerge -n portage-utils && qlist bangarang | egrep -i 'doc|read|man' |
| 09:43.27 | fenugreek | or 'info' |
| 09:43.28 | fenugreek | shudders |
| 09:44.35 | Quark-up | what is the differance between KDE 4.7.00(4.7.0) and KDE 4.7.00( 4.7.0) "realease 10" first one showing to my friends system, and second one mine |
| 09:44.35 | Tontimer | I have portage-utils installed :p thanks that's what I was looking for |
| 09:44.51 | thiago | Quark-up: where do you see that? |
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| 09:44.55 | thiago | Quark-up: Help > About KDE? |
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| 09:45.36 | Quark-up | yeah |
| 09:45.41 | Quark-up | no |
| 09:45.48 | thiago | then look there |
| 09:46.05 | Quark-up | i see it dolphin>help>about kde |
| 09:46.15 | thiago | what do you see there? |
| 09:46.43 | pinotree | Quark-up: you are using opensuse, right? |
| 09:46.52 | Quark-up | yes |
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| 09:47.01 | dorvan | hi to all |
| 09:47.06 | Quark-up | openSUSE 11.4 |
| 09:47.13 | pinotree | that's just the opensuse packaging version numbering |
| 09:48.00 | fenugreek | Tontimer: -n tells emerge not to reinstall if already installed |
| 09:48.01 | dorvan | i've a problem with bluetooth input device binding with bluedevil after pairing |
| 09:48.01 | Tontimer | fenugreek: Readme file is shitty... It just says it uses kde technology, what I already now... |
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| 09:48.19 | fenugreek | Tontimer: reminds me of most KDE info =P |
| 09:48.27 | Tontimer | :S |
| 09:49.12 | dorvan | i use kde 4.7.0 |
| 09:49.32 | Tontimer | Should I enable indexing on removable devices? since my media is on another partiton (but same hard drive linux is) |
| 09:49.43 | silver_hook | Tontimer: What are you trying to figure out? |
| 09:50.13 | Tontimer | silver_hook: I'm ttrying to configure Bangarang player to show my media files |
| 09:51.06 | Tontimer | But nepomuk has only indexed 6 files, none of them media files, and I don't know what's wrong... |
| 09:51.25 | silver_hook | Tontimer: I think you need to add them/their folders |
| 09:51.50 | silver_hook | I don't think it uses Nepomuk to discover them ...just for additional tagging. |
| 09:52.00 | Tontimer | silver_hook: I think I should add the folders to Nepomuk |
| 09:52.15 | silver_hook | Don't think that's needed. |
| 09:52.18 | Tontimer | Since there's no option in bangarang to "import folder" or music |
| 09:52.36 | Tontimer | it uses neomuk to discover the music |
| 09:52.41 | Tontimer | *nepo |
| 09:53.12 | silver_hook | In Bangarang just go to "Files and Folder" and click on the folder you want imported and then on the right side click "Index Selected" |
| 09:53.12 | Tontimer | I mean, there's no "settings" control on bangarang |
| 09:53.15 | silver_hook | ...they sou sort it. |
| 09:53.24 | silver_hook | s/sou/you |
| 09:53.37 | silver_hook | Yeah, it's got a "new concept of GUI" or something. |
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| 09:53.43 | Tontimer | silver_hook: But why isn't nepomuk indexing my folders? |
| 09:53.46 | silver_hook | ...no menu bar ETC |
| 09:54.22 | silver_hook | Tontimer: I still don't think Bangarang uses Nepomuk to *discover* music etc., but I could be terribly wrong here. |
| 09:54.45 | Tontimer | silver_hook: I find the info about it very confusing |
| 09:55.10 | silver_hook | Tontimer: Yeah, it took me a while to figure it out as well ...and I'm still not sure I'm doing it right. |
| 09:55.15 | Tontimer | but your solution seems to work, thanks! |
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| 09:55.37 | Tontimer | they say everywhere you need nepomuk |
| 09:55.41 | silver_hook | But using Nepomuk to tag stuff doesn't mean that the same files/folders have to be indexed by Strigi as well. |
| 09:55.48 | silver_hook | Nepomuk is just for tagging. |
| 09:56.10 | Tontimer | Ok I'm starting to understand :p |
| 09:56.12 | silver_hook | Fancy, wonderful, awesome, best-in-the-world tagging ...but it's still just tagging. |
| 09:56.36 | silver_hook | (with that I also mean metadata of any kind) |
| 09:56.46 | silver_hook | Strigi is there to index the content of the files. |
| 09:57.29 | silver_hook | e.g. if you want to find a PDF file that includes "Leeroy Jenkins is a wanker" in it, that's Strigi's job. |
| 09:57.50 | Tontimer | But i don't need to have strigi activated in order to use bangarang, do I? |
| 09:57.57 | silver_hook | Tontimer: Nope. |
| 09:58.13 | Tontimer | Crystal clear everything now :D |
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| 09:58.36 | silver_hook | e.g. if you want to search for all image files that you tagged with "Pretty flower", that's Nepomuk's job. |
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| 09:59.12 | fenugreek | nepomuk and your pansy/botanist arse =) |
| 09:59.32 | silver_hook | And e.g. if you want to find which files you edited last Friday, that's (or rather will be soon) ZeitGeist's job. |
| 09:59.52 | fenugreek | lord these names are terrible |
| 09:59.59 | silver_hook | But they intertwine. |
| 10:00.18 | silver_hook | fenugreek: Nepomuk is a terrible German name, but also a bloody long acronym. |
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| 10:00.43 | fenugreek | they're all names that're already in use |
| 10:00.59 | fenugreek | it's like you can't name a package these days without giving a search engine and everyone using them the finger |
| 10:01.01 | Tontimer | silver_hook: yeah I read about it :p |
| 10:01.07 | silver_hook | Tontimer: After you've added the media to Bangarang, you can edit their metadata (e.g. it's a "movie", "clip", "series"; features these artists etc.) in the right-hand-panel |
| 10:01.30 | silver_hook | fenugreek: For real? Some other poor sap used those names before? |
| 10:01.32 | silver_hook | Wow. |
| 10:02.12 | fenugreek | freal. |
| 10:02.24 | Tontimer | silver_hook: thanks! |
| 10:02.31 | silver_hook | Tontimer: Sure thing :) |
| 10:02.39 | Tontimer | and fenugreek thanks you too |
| 10:02.49 | silver_hook | BTW: http://userbase.kde.org/Bangarang |
| 10:03.13 | silver_hook | http://bangarangkde.wordpress.com/ |
| 10:03.35 | Tontimer | yep I read it but ther's no info about how to add music |
| 10:03.48 | silver_hook | OK. |
| 10:03.51 | Tontimer | It's so simple is difficult :p |
| 10:03.55 | silver_hook | Well, as long as it works now :) |
| 10:04.18 | Tontimer | g2g now, I need to TAG! :D |
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| 10:08.27 | silver_hook | Tontimer: Hehe, enjoy ;) |
| 10:08.38 | Tontimer | :D~~ |
| 10:08.41 | Tontimer | bye! |
| 10:09.08 | silver_hook | Too bad though that Amarok doesn't use Nepomuk for tagging/labeling ...that'd make it easier. |
| 10:09.17 | silver_hook | The two could just share the tags/labels |
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| 10:10.45 | handygandy | In an open file dialog how can I enter into a . directory? |
| 10:11.21 | fenugreek | handygandy: type its name? |
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| 10:12.31 | dorvan | hi to all |
| 10:12.32 | dorvan | i use kde 4.7.0 |
| 10:12.37 | dorvan | i've a problem with bluetooth input device binding with bluedevil after pairing |
| 10:12.47 | fenugreek | that's too bad |
| 10:15.56 | dalaen | What is the advantage, when writing a program, to write it specific with KDE SDK and not Qt SDK ? I can't figure out |
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| 10:18.25 | thiago | dalaen: suppose you buy a set of Lego to play with. |
| 10:18.37 | fenugreek | dalaen: historically very little |
| 10:18.37 | thiago | dalaen: you can build a lot with it. |
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| 10:18.50 | thiago | dalaen: now suppose you have that set of Lego plus another. |
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| 10:24.34 | dalaen | thiago: hmmmm |
| 10:25.23 | dalaen | Still don't get it because Qt is usable everywhere and KDE only in KDE environment, so the sets of LEGO is a bad example |
| 10:25.39 | dalaen | or then, a set of Lego I can build everything with, and a set of Lego I can build only ONE thing with :s |
| 10:25.57 | fenugreek | you just said KDE is only usable in KDE |
| 10:26.04 | fenugreek | think about that for a moment |
| 10:26.18 | dalaen | KDE SDK to build KDE apps |
| 10:26.24 | dalaen | is usable only in KDE, aren't they ? |
| 10:26.27 | pinotree | no |
| 10:26.38 | fenugreek | if you can accomplish your goal with just Qt, great |
| 10:26.48 | fenugreek | maybe throw in some optional KDE extras, great |
| 10:27.23 | fenugreek | but most Qt apps are inextricable from KDE or its libs |
| 10:27.50 | fenugreek | just because, not by necessity =P |
| 10:28.46 | pinotree | you can use kde applications just fine in gnome, xfce, ldxe, or whatever de/wm you are using |
| 10:28.51 | dalaen | fenugreek: Well I just wonder what's the big + given by KDE SDK, so it could make me think "Oh with that +, I should really dev' an app for KDE and not bare Qt" |
| 10:29.14 | fenugreek | and not what? |
| 10:29.22 | dalaen | and not just qt |
| 10:29.54 | fenugreek | the big plus is that people assume Qt is "the KDE one" |
| 10:30.00 | fenugreek | as opposed to GTK+ |
| 10:30.14 | fenugreek | but again, if you only need Qt, you're all set |
| 10:32.00 | dalaen | fenugreek: So I should dev' with KDE only if I need those things : http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Architecture/KDE4 ? |
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| 10:35.06 | fenugreek | or want to use any of those things |
| 10:35.10 | fenugreek | including optionally |
| 10:36.02 | dalaen | ok thank you very much ;) |
| 10:37.23 | kdepepo | dalan, that page is a bit sparse ... check http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials it shows much better what KDE has to offer. Also use api.kde.org |
| 10:39.15 | dalaen | kdepepo: Thank you :) I'm adding them to my bookmarks |
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| 12:34.56 | dahc | what's a good IDE for KDE? |
| 12:35.29 | tsimpson | KDevelop |
| 12:35.35 | tsimpson | or QtCreator |
| 12:36.03 | fenugreek | dahc: ed |
| 12:36.05 | svuorela | or vim :) |
| 12:36.08 | dahc | okay thanks. mind if i hang around for a while? |
| 12:36.11 | MinceR | gvim |
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| 12:36.30 | fenugreek | dahc: ok =P |
| 12:36.38 | fenugreek | MinceR: kvim? =P |
| 12:37.39 | MinceR | i don't think it exists now |
| 12:37.55 | fenugreek | qvim? =P |
| 12:37.58 | MinceR | iirc it was abandoned, then there was an attempt called yzis or something like that, but that might not even be based on vim |
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| 12:45.50 | dahc | does KDevelop support .c files? |
| 12:46.10 | dalaen | Hi, what is the "program starters" at the side of the taskbar ? There's dolphin & firefox there, I keep removing it but it comes back at each restart. Can't find any hints on internet because it's blinding by startups programs :/ |
| 12:46.14 | tsimpson | dahc: yes |
| 12:47.00 | tsimpson | dalaen: Quicklaunch? |
| 12:47.34 | dalaen | tsimpson: I suppose. |
| 12:47.44 | tsimpson | that |
| 12:47.49 | tsimpson | *'s the name of the widget |
| 12:49.40 | xexio | is away: Gone away for now |
| 12:50.48 | dalaen | tsimpson: Is there a way to change it ? When I wanna add one quicklaunch there by drag/drop, it doesn't work, when I wanna sort them, it doesn't work, when I remove them, it's back again at next reboot |
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| 12:51.48 | tsimpson | I don't know why it'd come back after reboot, I removed it and it's never bothered by panel since |
| 12:52.20 | dalaen | I'm gonna try again to remove them :s |
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| 13:35.25 | silver_hook | Does KDE Telepathy already have logging? |
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| 14:11.42 | inkbottle | The day number shown in my Calendar widget inside the panel (kde 4.6 or the like) update at desktop login time only. Have anyone noticed that? Workaround? |
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| 14:18.41 | karthikp | inkbottle: I don't see a day number in the calendar widget. I see a number for the week, though. Can you provide a screenshot of what you're talking about (you can use the paste widget to host it)? |
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| 14:24.08 | inkbottle | karthikp: hi |
| 14:24.37 | karthikp | inkbottle: hey :) |
| 14:24.43 | inkbottle | ok, i do that |
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| 14:25.46 | wooden | Is there a supported way to modify KDE system settings through the command line? For instance, the settings in /home/user/.kde/share/config/nepomukserverrc. |
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| 14:25.59 | thiago | kreadconfig and kwriteconfig |
| 14:26.59 | karthikp | inkbottle: This is what my calendar widget looks like, for reference: http://i.imgur.com/K3QAT.jpg |
| 14:27.22 | wooden | thiago: Thanks. What is the usual path for those commands? They don't seem to be installed on my box. |
| 14:27.55 | wooden | thiago: Nevermind. Found them. |
| 14:28.05 | wooden | thiago: Thanks much. |
| 14:28.51 | inkbottle | karthikp: ok, could you put it "inside" the panel then? |
| 14:29.43 | karthikp | Yeah, clicking on the date rolls it out or back in again. You can also "tear it off" and place it like a widget on the desktop. |
| 14:30.12 | karthikp | I meant time. Clicking on the time in the panel rolls it out or back in again. |
| 14:30.28 | inkbottle | karthikp: my screenshot about to be ready |
| 14:30.44 | inkbottle | http://imgur.com/s0BUj |
| 14:31.17 | inkbottle | http://i.imgur.com/s0BUj.png |
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| 14:32.10 | inkbottle | karthikp: pretty :-), but 19th is not correct :-/ |
| 14:32.13 | karthikp | So, were you talking about the thing that says 19 on your panel? |
| 14:32.20 | inkbottle | yes |
| 14:32.35 | karthikp | I don't know what that is. Is it a separate widget? |
| 14:32.44 | inkbottle | i'm sure you want the same :-) |
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| 14:32.58 | inkbottle | it's just panel> add widget > calendar |
| 14:33.12 | karthikp | Ah. Got it. It's the calendar widget by itself. |
| 14:33.23 | karthikp | Yup. I can add one, too. |
| 14:33.45 | inkbottle | and the day will be ok, until tomorrow |
| 14:33.59 | inkbottle | when it still be the same |
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| 14:34.48 | karthikp | Oh. That sounds like a bug. |
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| 14:35.07 | inkbottle | I haven't found anything on the net about that, i fail asking google relevant question |
| 14:35.13 | karthikp | Do you have it in your panel just to show the date? |
| 14:35.20 | inkbottle | yes |
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| 14:36.04 | inkbottle | I haven't found any "good" way to have this crucial information |
| 14:36.07 | inkbottle | :-) |
| 14:37.35 | inkbottle | I've tried to read source code; but I don't get how it's organised, seems huge...? |
| 14:38.01 | karthikp | You could get a start on this if you head to #plasma |
| 14:38.07 | inkbottle | and again failed asking google |
| 14:38.09 | karthikp | I assume that's the plasma dev channel. |
| 14:38.17 | inkbottle | ok |
| 14:39.39 | inkbottle | I'm in it (in case it's dev channel, i'll try to be smart :-) ) |
| 14:40.26 | karthikp | Heh, the devs are pretty helpful. Good luck fixing the bug! |
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| 14:44.14 | inkbottle | karthikp: I said there you told me to ask them :-), you can join me there... |
| 14:45.09 | inkbottle | In case you can answer me there if no one else does |
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| 15:20.08 | Tanktalus | anyone have any ideas on why if I play a test through system-settings, I hear it, but Amarok has suddenly (?) decided to stop playing anything? |
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| 15:22.44 | Tanktalus | odd... switching from phonon to gstreamer fixed it. |
| 15:22.50 | Tanktalus | Nevermind then :-) |
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| 15:43.45 | junkDawgie | kde4.6.5... device notifier recognizes and mounts dvd disks, but if you eject....the tray cycles completely... out (wanted) then back in (annoying)...... dolphin Places context menu Eject does the same thing. |
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| 15:44.05 | junkDawgie | is this common? is there a workaround? |
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| 15:49.21 | junkDawgie | in addition, the "new disk present" notification appears on the far left instead of in the tray area.... very odd |
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| 16:09.47 | Leoneof | hello, is there are CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor for KDE? |
| 16:10.01 | Leoneof | it should be in the panel like gnome |
| 16:11.14 | oopepe | Hi, is it possible with dolphin to open new folders like a shortcut to a users home in an already running dolphin instance in a new tab and not in an extra window? |
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| 16:27.52 | daedaluz | oopepe: middle mouse button |
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| 16:29.12 | silver_hook | Does Telepathy KDE already log/archive messages? |
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| 16:31.10 | DanTAtWork | Upgraded to KMail 4.7.0. Now on mail receipt I'm sometimes getting Coflict Resolution dialogs: "Two updates conflict with each other. Please choose which update(s) to apply." Available options are: 'Take left one', 'Take right one', "keep both'. Didn't happen with 4.4.x. Is there a new setting/feature to turn off? |
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| 16:33.05 | Zenguy_pc | is it possible to have specific application open in a specific activity everytime? |
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| 16:35.42 | oopepe | daedaluz: I mean for example when i downloaded something with firefox and click on show in folder i want that folder to open in a new tab instead in a new window. Is this posssible with dolphin? |
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| 17:15.39 | kworker | hay |
| 17:15.54 | kworker | whats the most universal and ever working command to lock kde4 screen? |
| 17:17.13 | thiago | there isn't one |
| 17:18.37 | kworker | ok, so how can i lock screen from a script? |
| 17:18.47 | kworker | i need it for keybinding to work with thinkpad acpi |
| 17:18.58 | kworker | i always had problems with configuring this on kde |
| 17:19.02 | kworker | ALWAYS |
| 17:21.21 | thiago | why don't you bind the key to the lock action? |
| 17:21.27 | thiago | you don't need a script |
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| 17:23.05 | kworker | keysym has no symbol although it has keycode |
| 17:23.21 | kworker | it does not work via systemsettings, kde does not see the thinkpad acpi |
| 17:23.25 | kworker | (stupid kde!) |
| 17:23.59 | thiago | give it a keysym then |
| 17:24.45 | kworker | how? |
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| 17:24.58 | kworker | its a combination of laptop Fn and F2 |
| 17:25.20 | thiago | xmodmap |
| 17:25.36 | thiago | xmodmap -e 'key 123 = Key_Label' |
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| 17:25.47 | thiago | replace 123 with the scan code and Key_Label with an available keysym |
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| 17:26.46 | kworker | how can i make it simplest as it can be? |
| 17:27.05 | kworker | xmodmap seems to be another thing to add to config |
| 17:28.05 | kworker | i'd like just to assign lock command to acpi event - seems to be most simple |
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| 17:29.42 | thiago | it produces a keycode in X, right? |
| 17:30.58 | thiago | then give the keycode a name and use it in the global shortcut for locking the screen |
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| 17:34.54 | kworker | what's the way to give it a name? |
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| 17:35.20 | thiago | 19:25 < thiago> xmodmap -e 'key 123 = Key_Label' |
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| 17:36.13 | thiago | for the label, try "XF86ScreenSaver" |
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| 17:56.09 | kworker | thiago: i get this: xmodmap: unknown command on line commandline:1 |
| 17:56.11 | kworker | xmodmap: 1 error encountered, aborting. |
| 17:57.58 | thiago | sorry, it's 'keycode nnn = XF86ScreenSaver' |
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| 17:59.48 | kworker | hmmm |
| 17:59.52 | kworker | it works :D |
| 17:59.56 | kworker | thanks thiago |
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| 18:06.26 | Mad_Dud | guys, can someone tell me, how to have louncher, which has grid-like icon based links to apps? |
| 18:08.06 | cb400f | Mad_Dud: I think possibly the quicklaunch widget is what you want |
| 18:08.30 | Mad_Dud | cb400f: thank you, i will check it out. |
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| 18:10.09 | Ronis_BR | hi guys, KDE here is about 3times slower than gnome here... I'm trying to figure out why... I have compositing enable in both, should be my video drivers (xf86-video-radeon)? |
| 18:12.55 | cb400f | how do you measure "3x slower" |
| 18:13.18 | cb400f | anyway.. disable oxygen animations or switch widget style... and figure out if it's a specific kwin effect slowing things |
| 18:13.47 | cb400f | http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/kde-is-slow-for-dummies/ |
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| 18:17.12 | Ronis_BR | cb400f: I measure by time to open apps |
| 18:17.26 | Ronis_BR | cb400f: I'll try to disable some effects |
| 18:17.31 | Ronis_BR | thanks cb400f |
| 18:18.25 | Mad_Dud | cb400f: thank you. It seems that popup can only have one row, but i can work with that. |
| 18:18.27 | cb400f | well.. app start-up time shouldn't be influenced by effects and animations |
| 18:18.53 | cb400f | are you using gtk apps for you benchmarks? |
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| 18:19.30 | cb400f | in this case you might want to consider disabling strigi.. check if something is hogging ram etc |
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| 18:19.46 | Mad_Dud | cb400f: perhaps you know name of applet, which also works like popup, but is notepad? |
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| 18:21.56 | cb400f | nope |
| 18:23.02 | Mad_Dud | thank you |
| 18:23.08 | Mad_Dud | cb400f++ |
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| 19:06.05 | tonymc | hi all |
| 19:06.21 | tonymc | does anyone know where i can download qt sdk 4.7.1 or 4.7.0? |
| 19:06.38 | tonymc | 4.7.2 and 4.7.3 have a critical (for me) bug with printing |
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| 19:06.50 | cb400f | ask your distro if they have packages |
| 19:07.17 | tonymc | how about directly from nokia? don't they have like an archive or something? |
| 19:07.50 | cb400f | ask in #qt ;-) |
| 19:08.14 | tonymc | thanks |
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| 20:34.38 | Leoneof | gtk applications are ugly in KDE, how to fix it? |
| 20:34.50 | thiago | stop using them |
| 20:35.05 | MinceR | :D |
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| 20:35.20 | Leoneof | heh |
| 20:35.28 | Leoneof | that's not an answer, really |
| 20:35.33 | thiago | try running the gtk settings application and see if there's a style that is more to your likng |
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| 20:54.28 | JackW1 | Leoneof: this is archlinux specific but might be help to you anyways: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uniform_Look_for_QT_and_GTK_Applications |
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| 21:10.54 | Leoneof | JackW1: thank you |
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| 21:33.13 | al | is it normal for nepomuk to re-index a file that is being streamed to mulitple times per second (i.e. as often as inotify manages to wake it up)? |
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| 21:35.05 | al | (kde 4.7.0 on gentoo) |
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| 21:41.31 | Alumin | al: ooh that's a good one |
| 21:42.25 | Alumin | I'm surprised nepomuk would agree to re-index any file that often, seems like a waste of resources |
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| 21:43.59 | al | Alumin, yea, it produces a significant amount of i/o wait |
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| 22:09.40 | chemtail | Kubuntu 11.04, KDE 4.6.2 - I have the win-key reconfigured to act as F13 and use it for the application launcher hotkey. This setup disappears several times a day, and I have to manually invoke xmodmap -e 'keycode 113 = F13' to get it back. Could KDE be doing this? |
| 22:10.18 | thiago | disappears without logging out and in again? |
| 22:11.06 | chemtail | yep |
| 22:11.21 | thiago | are you changing keyboard layouts? |
| 22:11.21 | chemtail | All I have to do is really leave the desk for a few hours. |
| 22:11.27 | chemtail | Nope. |
| 22:11.36 | thiago | it happens on idle? |
| 22:11.47 | chemtail | As far as I can tell, that's what's happening, yes. |
| 22:12.25 | thiago | So: press F13, the menu shows; don't touch the computer for 4 hours, come back and press F13 and it doesn't work anymore |
| 22:12.29 | chemtail | I suspected for a while that it was happening when I plugged the power in and out of the laptop, so I added xmodmap scripts to the plug/unplug events in the power manager, but it doesn't help. |
| 22:12.34 | thiago | no action between those two F13 keypresses? |
| 22:13.25 | thiago | I can't think of anything that would change the keybindings except for the keyboard layout |
| 22:15.00 | Alumin | screensaver? |
| 22:15.06 | chemtail | To put it differently, the closest I've come to ascertaining a cause indicates it just happens randomly/periodically without any action on my part. |
| 22:15.09 | chemtail | Screensaver disabled. |
| 22:15.16 | Alumin | not that I can think how that would affect it, but I can't think of anything else that would happen while it was idle |
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| 22:15.58 | chemtail | For a while, I used xmodmap 'manually' (ie. in shellscripts) to change capslock to a modifier, then found that the control center has an option for that. I thought that might be it, but disabling that entire thing made no difference either. |
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| 22:18.15 | chemtail | 'le sigh, these time vampire little mystery bugs will be the death of me. |
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| 22:42.09 | bfrog | I can't seem to add a pager to the panel anymore |
| 22:42.17 | bfrog | and there doesn't seem to be one |
| 22:42.58 | bfrog | seems like kde 4.7 has more bugs than 4.6 had :-/ |
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| 22:46.35 | thiago | no, it's just your perception |
| 22:46.41 | thiago | the bug count usually stays around the same number |
| 22:47.07 | bfrog | so like, what happened to the pager then, I add a pager to the panel, nothing seems to crash, but there's no page |
| 22:47.10 | bfrog | *pager |
| 22:47.20 | bfrog | and why can't I drag around the activities thing |
| 22:47.27 | bfrog | it just sort of... doesn'tw ork |
| 22:47.40 | bfrog | at least on one of my screens |
| 22:48.12 | bfrog | last new thing I noticed is that I remove the dolphin launcher from my panel, but it just keeps reappearing magically |
| 22:48.25 | thiago | I've just added a pager |
| 22:48.42 | bfrog | like, this is from a fresh install |
| 22:48.46 | bfrog | so no previous .kde4 directory |
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| 22:51.46 | bfrog | I guess I have to adjust the number of desktops to get a pager to show up? |
| 22:51.53 | bfrog | thats completely different from how it worked before |
| 22:52.52 | bfrog | I set 4 desktops in virtual desktops, and now I see all the pagers I added... |
| 22:52.56 | bfrog | all like 5 of them |
| 22:53.56 | bfrog | annnnd it crashed :-( |
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| 23:50.04 | hagabaka | in KDE/Arch Linux my computer can sleep (suspend to RAM) but not hibernate (suspend to disk). any solutions: |
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| 23:53.54 | JackW1 | hagabaka: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pm-utils |
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| 23:56.03 | hagabaka | thanks JackW1 |
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