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00:06.14ussher_is there a name for that feature where you move a window to the edge of the screen and the white lines appear then maximize the window?
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00:18.37mdeandaso on my wifes computer, it seems that kde doesn't remember file associations. any ideas?
00:18.56mdeandamore specifically... for attachments from kmail
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03:43.47*** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.6.5 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4
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03:54.31*** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.6.5 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4
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03:58.00UmeaboyHi!
03:58.26UmeaboyIf Ark doesn't work to untar a src.rpm, what do I use?
04:01.11fenugreekUmeaboy: what distro?
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04:03.00fenugreekUmeaboy: looks like you just need libarchive >=2.8
04:03.14fenugreekUmeaboy: if you're saying it doesn't work despite having that, try using rpm2targz, or 'rpm' itself
04:03.18Umeaboyfenugreek: Mageia.
04:03.47benonsoftwareQuestion: What do I do to start helping with dev with plasmods in python?
04:04.51UmeaboyI know I'm using Cauldron (devel-version), but still it should work.
04:06.46fenugreekbenonsoftware: you could search the kde bugs related to it and close some
04:06.59benonsoftwarefenugreek: Ok thanks
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04:08.41UmeaboyHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
04:08.54Umeaboyrpm2targz isn't in the Cauldron-repo.
04:08.57UmeaboyWeird.
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04:43.32bobweaverHi there anyone know anything about how a n00b can learn to make his own splash screen
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04:58.13fenugreekbobweaver: I think kde-look.org has categories for that
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04:58.23fenugreekoften times you can find instructions/tutorials on the listings/in the archives
04:58.34fenugreekotherwise I'd just do a search for kde loading screen howto
04:59.01bobweaverfenugreek, thanks
04:59.24bobweaverI have looked all over google maybe not hard enough
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06:17.09fenugreekKreative`: WHERE ARE YOU? =)
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07:52.52johnny69Good morning people...anyone tell me how to completely disable,  Kwallet?  I sed to be able to hit a checkbox in the settings for Kde.  But it's no longer there.  (Kde 4.6.x/Suse 11.4)  Thank you.
07:53.01johnny69sed = used
07:57.05johnny69Damn,  sorry....problems with Nickserv....let me try that again in case it didn't make it to the channel:   Good morning people...anyone tell me how to completely disable, Kwallet? I used to be able to hit a checkbox in the settings for Kde. But it's no longer there. (Kde 4.6.x/Suse 11.4) Thank you.
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08:11.37deviljohnny69: in debian kde 4.6.4 its in useraccount-details (translated from german)
08:11.47devilin systemsettings, of course
08:12.03devilit used to be in a different place
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08:14.14johnny69I thought I knew kde 4.6.x series through and through.  (at least under the control panel/personal settings thingy)  I've done about 14 kde 4 installs and NEVER had a problem finding where to disable Kwallet.  It's like the damn thing simply disappeared.
08:14.43deviljohnny69: found it now?
08:16.06johnny69Ok this can be found under,  "Personal Settings" (Configuire desktop)  right?
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08:16.22devilthat should be the one.
08:16.38pinotreenotes system settings has a search box on the top-right
08:16.43devilthe one thats got the social desktop thingie
08:17.11devilpinotree: ouch, it does. never seen or needed that :)
08:17.37johnny69Ok,  under that brings up the entire control panel thingy for Kde.  Inside of  THAT I can find NOTHING that even remotely resembles what you said.  That is  "Useraccount-Details".  I see nothing with that name.
08:17.52pinotreedo you have kwalletmanager installed?
08:18.05johnny69Oh yeah...and it's coming up EVERY time I start Kopete.
08:18.21devilpinotree: that search just greys all of systemsettings and stays that way
08:18.23pinotreethat isn't what i refer to
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08:18.49pinotree(and btw, UPPERCASE is like screaming, so please just avoid abusing it for no reason, thanks)
08:19.01devilpinotree: my fault, it does not know kwallet in DE
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08:19.26johnny69Take me through this again please?    Personal settings,  THEN I am presented with a bunch of icons...  Desktop Effects,   Power management,  etc.  So what icon am I looking for within this?
08:19.26pinotree"wallet"?
08:19.42johnny69And yes I will drop  my judicious use of upper case.
08:19.57johnny69Noting within the main control that shows "wallet".   :(
08:20.13johnny69noting = nothing
08:20.19pinotreeaccount detail → kde wallet
08:20.22pinotree*details
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08:21.48johnny69Ok,  I clicked on  Account details.  4 icons then appear on the right.  Password and account,  Social Desktop, Paths, Web Shortcuts.
08:22.03johnny69Within those 4 icons...nothing mentioning Kwallet.   :(
08:22.11pinotreethen yes, you are missing the wallet management module, install kwalletmanager
08:22.15johnny69Did Opensuse pull some crap?  Change something?
08:22.29johnny69I believe it's already installed...but I will look again in the package manager thingy.
08:22.53johnny69thank you guys for helping me realize I am not losing my mind and it's really not to be found  :)
08:24.51johnny69I'd like to ask one more question..slightly off topic...but I don't know where else to go.  Bear with me please.  Sata interface and drives were supposed to be quite a bit faster than the traditional Ide drives.  I have both hooked up.  Why is it that the sata drive is only showing about a 14 meg person second increase over the older Ide?  (according to Hdparm -tT  option timed benchmarks?)
08:25.16johnny69person = per second
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08:26.13johnny69Oh for shit sakes.  You were right.  Kwallet isn't installed.  I could have sworn I went looking for it and saw it there.    Thanks guys
08:26.31pinotreesuggests a generic linux/distro support channel
08:27.32johnny69pinotree:   I know I know...this isn't the place for that.  Just thought you might know off the top of your head.  You've helped me before with things.  Just thought I would give it a shot.   :)
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08:28.31Peace-i have a problem with bludevil
08:28.37Peace-i can send to my phone
08:28.51Peace-but i can't send from my phone to pc
08:29.04Peace-before it worked
08:29.08Peace-i use a nokia 5800
08:29.13Peace-now...
08:29.24Peace-i can't undestand why i doesn't work
08:29.31Peace-i am on bluetooth group
08:29.52Peace-how could i debug the situation ?
08:30.19Peace-with sudo obexfs -b 00-BD-3A-6C-43-6D -B 8 /tmp/blue
08:30.25Peace-i can browse my phone
08:30.48Peace-but i can't undestand why ... but after a while /tmp/blue disappear
08:30.51Peace-and so :)
08:30.55Peace-i can't copy the files
08:30.59Peace-wtf
08:31.17Peace-why ? i mean the folder is deleted by system ?
08:31.23Peace-what's going on here?
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10:19.09lancelot_ofas yesterday i've the problem with kded4. It starts sucking all cpu making my fan steering up and noising (of course). I deactivated knotify4 which yesterday was responsible of the resource consumption and in system settings i've activated all but the most essential services. How to fix?
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10:27.19lancelot_ofno suggestions for me?
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10:35.42lancelot_ofi re-post: as yesterday i've the problem with kded4. It starts sucking all cpu making my fan steering up and noising (of course). I deactivated knotify4 which yesterday was responsible of the resource consumption and in system settings i've activated all but the most essential services. How to fix?
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10:46.01breakerfallhallo - does anybody know where KDE4 stores networkmanager configurations settings?
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10:47.30Asembreakerfall: which version of network manager you have? the latest one stores it in /etc/Networkmanager
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10:48.13breakerfallAsem, I figured that my non-root user would be storing settings locally
10:48.15breakerfallisn't this the case?
10:49.04breakerfallah, nm, seems you are right! :)
10:49.05breakerfallthanks
10:49.17Asemthe ;atest version droped that , i dont know why
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11:35.59telitiHello. Is it possible to disable e.g. the folder view from showing its "titlebar" when moving over it with the cursor?
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11:41.35ErkiDerLoonyteliti: You have to lock your widgets.
11:42.01ErkiDerLoonyThen I think the “titlebar” is no longer displayed.
11:45.19telitiErkiDerKoony: thank you. Now I still have to search where :-)
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12:28.31BajKAny ideas why KDE 4.7 is consuming almost half the power 4.6 consumed on my notebook? I was wondering "7 hours 30 Minute", on 4.6 I get 5,5 at max
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12:34.17daedaluzdunno, but it sounds like a serious problem.
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12:40.03BajKis it just me or does KDE 4.7 consume HALF the power of my 4.6? I was looking atr the battery monitor and it says "8 Hours 30 Seconds" and powertop says 8W consume
12:40.12BajK4.6 consumed 15W normally
12:40.23BajKis it because I dont use graphicssystem raster anymore but native again?
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13:16.59xexaxohi guys
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13:17.57xexaxois there a way to ommit gnome apps from the "start" menu ?
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13:19.03xexaxoi.e. use kde apps if they exist and fallback to gnome if they don't
13:20.12xexaxoeg. use Kate for text/plain, and if it does not exist (nor does kwrite) fallback to anything that's available - prob gedit
13:20.13xexaxothanks
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13:21.35xexaxousing kde 4.6.5 on a Archlinux 64bit system
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13:45.08szalxexaxo: not sure what you want to achieve
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13:45.40szalsomething different: what backend does Dolphin use to rip CDs, and where can I configure it, if at all?
13:48.21szalnvm, found it
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14:31.47xexaxoszal: simple thing - system has gnome + kde, I prefet kde apps on my kde desktop
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14:32.14xexaxowhereas a friend of mine (occasionally using the system) prefers gnome desktop + apps
14:33.26xexaxowhen I pefer to use Kate for plain/text on kde, my friend gedit on gnome
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15:38.37G__81hi i am using 4.6.3 i want to know whats antil aliasing in fonts
15:38.47G__81i enabled it whats the difference if i enable it
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15:39.39thiagoit turns on the font anti-aliasing
15:40.01thiagoif you have a black font on a white background, it will use shades of grey to make the font look smoother
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15:40.53G__81so its good if i have it on right ?
15:41.16G__81thiago: i just enabled it and i didnt change any options in that drop down menu. Is that fine ?
15:41.36thiagoyes, only newly started applications will get the setting
15:41.40thiagosome people don't like it
15:41.45thiagothey say the fonts look blurred
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15:49.00Skaperenthiago: I've found cases going either way on a case by case basis ... for the tiny terminal fonts, aa off keeps them crisp ... but for larger fonts, aa helps keep them smooth
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15:57.16nettezzaumanahi there
15:58.57nettezzaumanai'd like to ask which lyrics plugin uses amarok 1.x from kde3 .. i have these seems like ultraLyricWiki/ wiki_lyrics/
15:59.32nettezzaumanathat one which amarok uses works perfect in the front of many i've tested for amarok in kde4
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16:32.08mdimhi folks
16:33.31mdimI'm using Parabola and KDE 4.6.5. Since I've updated from 4.6.4 to 4.6.5 there is an on-going message from Akonadi saying: "Bridged resource 'LMvSy61stT' has no standard resource."
16:33.40mdimhow do I get rid of these message?
16:33.53mdimit is reported by the KResource Migration Tool
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16:41.08HyperJapanHey guys
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16:41.48HyperJapanCan anyone tell me what icon theme Mageia and PCLinuxOS use currently? Ive asked both distrobution irc channels but no-one can tell me
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16:42.50nettezzaumanaHyperJapan: both are for poor minds man :P .. do you think that such like these are here ?
16:43.19nettezzaumanaloves handbag fights about distro choice
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16:44.04HyperJapannettezzaumana: Im asking about an icon theme, I dont want a distribution fight?
16:45.04nettezzaumanaHyperJapan: i really don't know .. perhaps you could google out some screenshots or at least package contents
16:45.17Vergehttp://www.tannerhelland.com/wp-content/uploads/PCLOS_default_liveCD_desktop.jpg
16:45.21VergeThat's Oxygen
16:45.24nettezzaumanayes
16:45.39nettezzaumanai'm just typing :: i guess that's oxygen anyway
16:45.44HyperJapanVerge: The current release, thats the 2010 release
16:46.14nettezzaumanaHyperJapan: why it's so imporatnt ? you could change it anyway
16:46.24HyperJapanhttp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/pclinuxos/screenshots/pclinuxos2011.6.jpg  -- That one
16:46.33HyperJapannettezzaumana: I want to use it on my distro of choice
16:46.52VergeThat's still Oxygen
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16:47.20HyperJapanVerge: The folder icons dont look like oxygen much
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16:47.30VergeIndeed they do
16:47.31nettezzaumanaHyperJapan: then i hope that you're choice is reasonable
16:47.47VergeOxygen was updated with  KDE 4.6.1
16:48.14nettezzaumanaperhaps i'm only one here typing from kde3
16:48.18nettezzaumana:P
16:48.23VergeHope so
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16:49.55nettezzaumanahttp://susepaste.org/view/raw/67001899
16:49.59nettezzaumana:) ^^^
16:50.01nettezzaumanai love it
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16:52.34nettezzaumana> du -h ~/tmp/desk1.png
16:52.36nettezzaumana2.7M    /home/dpecka/tmp/desk1.png
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16:53.00nettezzaumana^^ interesting, i've never seen so big screenshot no matter that dimensions are 2560x1024
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18:42.43arkaschaDoes anyone know where to download the plasma networkmanagement plasmoid ?
18:42.57arkaschathe opensuse packages are really outdated, I'd like to build a new one.
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19:48.51kotiquewhere's kde autostart setting? it's starting 5 instances of krusader on login
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19:55.14devilkotique: in systemsettings
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19:55.45kotiqueautostart? no krusaders there
19:56.02kotiquejust gtk-qt-engine.rc.sh , nothing more
19:56.25devilkotique: start with a fresh session
19:56.41devilsame module, session settings (or some such)
19:56.43kotiqueerm, what do you mean?
19:56.52kotiquei tried to logoff, it still remembers old stuff
19:57.11devilkotique: set 'empty session'
19:58.20kotiquebut where are those krusader instances session files stored?
19:58.30devilno idea :(
19:58.32kotique.kde4/share/config/startupconfig ?
19:58.49kotiqueokay, will try empty session next time . thanks for help
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22:46.41margianois here a way to recieve mails in /var/spool/mail in akonadi? what agent should i use? Thanks
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22:57.22nadleyhi all
22:57.41nadleyis there something special to use kmail with gmail ?
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23:00.12_aeris_nadley > no
23:02.45nadley_aeris_: ok I ask it because I get this message Google Mail : Select failed, server replied: A000093 NO Unknown Mailbox: ( now in authenticated state ) …
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