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00:39.23eristikophileshey i'm running kubuntu natty with kde 6.4.2 .. every time i reboot my left-side panel reverts to being on the right side.. any reason this happens?
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01:23.29DoctorPepperhi guys  !!!
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01:47.44sabocat_Would someone be willing to help me with a KMail problem? I accidentally deleted my ~/.kde4.2/ directory, and along with it all my mail. Now KMail only downloads up till Sept./2010 from Gmails POP3
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03:34.09chealerI upgraded from 4.4 to 4.6. How do you select a different item from Klipper without using the mouse? In 4.4 you could use arrows and Enter, in my 4.6 arrows still work. but Enter doesn't really do anything. Klipper stays up. it seems buggy, there's a white box at the top.
03:35.08chealerKlipper loses its last line of height when I hit Enter
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03:39.40chealeroh, that's https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258749 :-/
03:40.23chealerit's not as bad as it looks, the entry is still selected, you just need to press Esc too
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04:55.40joakofor KDE 4.6 how do I edit the system-wide K-menu?
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05:13.52DoctorPepperis there any way to make kde use windowsⓇ style shortcuts (win_key+R: run command plasmoid , and win_key(alone): kicker )  ?
05:14.36VergeOf course
05:14.41VergeJust edit the shortcuts
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05:15.17VergeThough by "run command plasmoid" you prolly mean Krunner, which is a real application
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05:15.42VergeAnd I'm not sure if Qt/KDE allows you to bind special keys only
05:15.53VergeEg. Super or Ctrl without any other keys
05:16.14VergeI think it's not possible
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05:24.40mdeandaomg omg omg... i ran into a bug in kmail that really really sucks :( i moved a local mail folder into my disconnected imap server and i got an error message saying it couldn't find the files. i think it deleted local files before copying? they were really important docs and i see no trace of mail folder :(
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05:33.04mernilioHello!
05:33.33Vergemdeanda: backups
05:33.43VergeYou really have no reason to not have them
05:34.11mernilioStupid question, but i cant logout, reboot or hibernate from the shutdown-dialog..
05:34.48VergeYou probably started your X session in a wrong way
05:34.56Vergehmm
05:35.01VergeYou should still be able to logout
05:35.36mernilioVerge: i dont thing so my friend. Im sure its a slackware issue.
05:35.57VergeThen this is wrong channel for you
05:37.51mernilioWell. Amarok doesnt work either in slackware 13.37 <- the latest release.
05:38.51merniliostupid bug-report ^^ .. im not here to make bug reports tho..
05:39.44VergeI'm sure it works
05:39.54VergeIt wouldn't be in the repos
05:39.55mernilioIm here to ask you kde guys on, where can i from my base in sweden go on a trip, and it will not cost me any money?
05:41.07mernilioVerge: mm.. im prolly that stupid i cant press the appropriate button that says "logut" :-P
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05:44.38mdeandaVerge: i do have backups, but these were relatively new email messages that i wanted back on imap so i can review from my phone
05:45.50mernilioBut this is a, all on a positive note. a nerd channel.And from that viewpoint. I think the word nerd, or expression "fat computer guy" should be re-valued", because its a pregnant word, filled with power!
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05:46.13eddybhi
05:46.20mernilioeddyb: hi there
05:46.24eddybI'd like to use my win key standalone
05:46.42eddybinstead of being a combiner, or however it's called
05:47.11eddybI've looked into the advanced keyboard settings, pretty cool stuff, but nothing like I want
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05:47.24mernilioeddyb: it sounds like a inpossible feat. First of all, are you a fat computer guy nerd?
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05:47.39mdeandaeddyb: i'd love to do that too.. i got used to windows7 how i can do meta+type a name ofa program, enter, then the app starts
05:48.18merniliosorry :-) .. i dont know.. i will shut up
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05:49.10eddybI'm not fat
05:49.14eddybneither a nerd
05:49.16eddybI'm a geek
05:49.18eddybwhy?
05:49.42VergeSomething wrong with that guy
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05:50.50eddybbtw, not willing to build kde4 myself, I just want to get this done hacking some config files together or something (I don't believe there's any way to do that from system config & friends)
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05:57.45FloridaGuyso far kde 4.7 beta1 seems pretty good
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06:04.13mdeandai'm still on 4.5.5 b/c my distro is a little slow to update kde
06:04.45eddybKDE: 4.6.4 (4.6.4) << opensuse official repo :P
06:05.00eddybjust updated a whole bunch of packets a few minutes ago
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06:05.23eddybbtw, any of you having any ideas why my nepomuk is not running?
06:06.24eddybor in what bigger package it would be?
06:06.56eddybs/packets/packages/ (damn, I always get that wrong... in Romanian it's the same word, maybe that's why)
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06:12.39eddyboh
06:12.49eddybnepomuk just wasn't enabled in the settings xD
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06:20.04elmargolI'm wondering if there is m/foobar/gi support in kate? Or do I have to press find all every time?
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06:54.29lariehow to use consolekit by default in kdm?
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06:57.48thiago_homewhat do you want kdm to do with it?
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07:00.09lariethiago_home: idk i follow that http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858965-highlight-tips+tricks.html
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07:00.32lariethiago_home: there is slim examples for consolekit but nothing for kdm
07:00.40lariethiago_home: idk will it work or not
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07:05.38thiago_homejust tell me what you're trying to accomplish
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07:17.23lariethiago_home: i'm trying to setup ConsoleKit/PolicyKit/udev, without hal
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07:17.54EugenMayeranybody running into propblem with the current kde, not saving window shortcuts or thos "windows / programm" settings?
07:18.10thiago_homeand what do you need kdm to do?
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07:57.07kristian_hi, how can I get auto detection of my headphones when they are connected ? ( I'm using Debian sid/KDE 4.6.3) I would like that speakers get muted when I connect headphones, if that is possible on Debian/KDE
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08:17.36aseigokristian_: afaik that's not up to the kde software, but lower in the audio stack
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08:19.55EugenMayerare there any issues know ( kubunut, 4.6.3 ) where all window / programm settings are not saved? Shortcuts for windows are also not preserved during restarts
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08:23.08EugenMayerall in one, iam very please with the power-features of KDE. Activities, Window-Manager settings / shortcuts, window sepcific settings, krunner and expose+search and all this. If it would not crash that often...it would be plain awesome.
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08:28.49chealerEugenMayer: window shortcuts... are you sure that's supposed to be saved?
08:29.10EugenMayerchealer: well when i set i want meta-e to show up kontact
08:29.22EugenMayerand it works until i restart, thats pretty sure a bug-
08:30.13EugenMayerand when i set position / geometry of an app, then closing the dialog and reopning it, and all settings are not there anymore, i rather expect this to be a bug either
08:30.40chealerEugenMayer: IIUC, you set the shortcut to show the window, not directly kontact
08:31.34EugenMayerwell
08:32.00EugenMayerchealer: well, upper-left corner -> advanced -> shortcut
08:33.07chealerEugenMayer: yes, I discovered that feature today, and just found that it doesn't persist after the window is closed, but I didn't really really expect that it would
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08:33.41EugenMayerchealer: how useless would that feature be actually?
08:34.03EugenMayerreapplying those shortcuts everytime you open that app. This actually means, you will do this once, and never again.
08:35.19chealerEugenMayer: I guess it's as useful as Special Window Settings. I never made use of that.
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08:36.59EugenMayerchealer: when you are a power-user you use it
08:37.10EugenMayerif you have arround 10 or more windows opened.
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08:37.50EugenMayerso your pim clients always open at the same place, same for the ide and browser, and other tools. So you dont waste your time with searching windows, aligning and placing them everytime again and again
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08:51.29EugenMayerare there actually any replacements for twinkle?
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08:55.16cb400fthere are a ton of sip clients
08:55.43cb400fe.g. qutecom if you want qt based... think kcall is being integrated into telepathy-kde
08:56.26EugenMayercb400f: some of them cant use proxies ( sflphone ), some of them are broken in kde4 ( twinkle ) some of them have horrible quality ( qutecom 2.x )
08:56.34EugenMayerkcall == kphone?
08:57.19EugenMayer(there is no telepathy-kde package in my repos)
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09:02.40lesshastehow is KDEDIR different from KDEDIRS?
09:03.09annmaKDEDIR is a convenient var you set
09:03.26annmaKDEDIRS is where your various KDE installations are located
09:03.30cb400fEugenMayer: I think telepathy-kde is alpha level at best
09:03.45annmalesshaste: KDEDIRS is official
09:04.16lesshasteok thanks.. what do you think this line in the kde docs is supposed to be
09:04.23lesshaste"- Type "KDEDIRS=$HOME/kile-install:$KDEDIRS $HOME/kile-install/bin/kile" and enj
09:04.23lesshasteoy the power of LaTeX together with"
09:04.35lesshasteoh I see :)
09:04.37lesshastesorry
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09:06.10EugenMayercb400f: so thats actually it. List has become extremly small now :)
09:06.38cb400fonly because you limit yourself to qt/kde based software which is silly imho
09:06.53tdnIs there an easy way of deleting all jpeg files in a folder with resolution less than, say, 256xp? (ie. in which both dimensions are less than 256 pixels?) Maybe by using imagemagick or something like that? Or just a program that can sort files by resolution. So I can delete them manually. I tried Gwenview, but it can't. Also gqview cant.
09:07.03EugenMayercb400f: you mean "addressbooks" are a silly idea to siphones?
09:07.10EugenMayercb400f: "ok" :)
09:07.38EugenMayercb400f: if you ask me, a sip phone needs to buttons "call/end call" + "addressbook".
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09:10.52ChrisBuchholzHey guys. Is it possible to get a taskbar widget that only shows the icon (like Windows 7) i stead of full text? And possible with the launcher possibility too?
09:11.13cb400flook at the flexible tasks widget
09:11.32ChrisBuchholzis it included by default, or should i look for it somewhere else?
09:12.09cb400fit's not part of official kde sc at least.. can't say if your distro has it packaged
09:12.27ChrisBuchholzright, thanks
09:13.29ChrisBuchholzcb400f: luckily, chakra did have it in its repo .P
09:13.31ChrisBuchholzthank you
09:15.10EugenMayeris there a way to shortuc specific activities?
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09:27.21chealercan a shortcut be created to toggle a certain application? like this window shortcut thing, but persistent and when the application is already up, it should minimize it. F10 does it for Yakuake
09:28.07Sho_It's possible to write e.g. a shell script to do that and bind that to a hotkey, but that's the easiest you can get other than app-specific ways like Yakuake, Kopete, Konversation, etc. have them
09:28.39Sho_It's easier to set up a shortcut to raise an app window, but the repeated-triggering-minimizes part needs scripting
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09:33.51chealerSho_: OK, thank you.
09:34.18chealerif this was already discussed, please let me know (going to bed but will read later)
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10:15.44ryrychhi
10:16.07ryrychhow can I remove geodata (exif) from images?
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10:18.23szalryrych: how is that a KDE question?
10:19.03ryrychszal: maybe some kde apps support this?
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10:26.00apushi, i am a little confused... isn't 4.6.4 supposed to be out already?
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10:28.36mernilioapus: ur problem with ur social life can easily be tetecded!
10:29.20szalmernilio: either make sense or stfu, kthx
10:29.54szalryrych: try digikam or gwenview (probably in combination w/ kipi-plugins)
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10:30.21mernilioMaybe you have 2 or 3 good friends. Call them and say that you care!
10:31.13szalpinotree: ping
10:31.24mernilioszal: as for you .. i dont know
10:32.04mernilioyou seem to nice! :-)
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10:33.16szalpinotree: thx
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10:46.45sudokillhi im getting really slow performance (dragging windows) with direct rendering enabled. im using nvidia any ideas?
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10:47.33shal3rsudokill, are you using xinerama?
10:47.41sudokillthe only way i can solve it is to disable direct rendering and vsync. a strange thing is, if i *enable* direct rendering and vsync, and also enable the "show fps" option its as smooth as silk :s confused
10:47.50sudokillshal3r, no
10:48.24sudokillwhy would enabling the "show fps" option make it perfectly smooth? (with direct rendering enabled)
10:48.50sudokillas soon as i disable show fps its all jerky and slow, so im using no direct rendering at the moment.
10:49.21szalsounds to me like a bug
10:49.44sudokillwell ive got nvidia card i think its 270 drivers
10:49.47sudokilland on gentoo
10:50.10sudokillive been googling this and seen people had this problem at all different times but couldnt find a solution
10:50.22szaldoes Gentoo have pkgs for the nVidia driver?
10:50.32sudokillyes im using the binary one
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10:50.54szalthen you might be better helped in #gentoo or #kde-gentoo
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10:51.08sudokillmeh ive asked its pretty slow in there
10:51.10szalor was it #gentoo-kde ?
10:51.15pinotreethis one
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10:52.14sudokilldoes enabling the "show fps" option actually do anything other than show fps? does it put it into any kind of "safe mode"?
10:52.47szaldoes "show fps" show different frame rates w/ and w/o direct rendering?
10:53.16sudokillno, both show 60fps although direct rendering has no tearing (vsync works) without direct rendering i have tearing
10:53.34sudokillbut it still shws 60fps
10:53.41sudokillmaybe its just a 60fps cap?
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10:54.54szalI seem to have heard lately that there is an option somewhere to couple frame rate to the monitor's horizontal sync rate
10:56.02sudokillhmm idk, but that wouldnt solve my problem would it?
10:56.26szalwell, it sounds as if the "show fps" option is doing just that
10:56.35sudokillseems like it
10:56.55sudokillis there a way to keep the "show fps" enabled, but make it invisible? lol
10:57.43szalbut really, that's a case for a bug report, so go work w/ the #gentoo folks to figure out against what to file one
10:57.46sudokillthis is my first time using kde this is te only problem i have
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10:57.56sudokillok ill go on their irc
10:58.05sudokillthx for help
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11:48.23sudokillok i have another problem, i cant't log out, reboot or shutdown from kde. i have to do it from terminal. if i do it from kde the screen just dims and hangs
11:49.30apussudokill: just update your kde ... i had that same issue a few weeks back (on gentoo as well)
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11:50.35sudokilli only emerged it last night
11:50.51sudokill:s
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11:52.01sudokilltheres no updates available
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11:53.50sudokillok another Q- is there a way to change that "K" icon on the menubar at the bottom?
11:54.45soeesudokill, main menu icon ?
11:55.09apussudokill: ALT+D,S or right click -> settings for k-menu
11:55.15sudokillat the bottom u know the start menu like thing
11:55.16soeeyup
11:55.25soeeas apus said
11:55.42sudokillahhhh tahanks a lot
11:55.44sudokill:)
11:55.49sudokilldidnt see that settings
11:55.53sudokillthem settings*
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11:57.53sudokillfor the icon
11:58.28sudokillr what folder their stored in so i can see?
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12:57.58kW_Hello! In KDE 4.3, there used to be an entry "find file..." in the "tools" menu of konqueror, why isn't it there in KDE 4.6 by default and how can I reactivate this?
12:58.16cb400falt+f2 -> kfind
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13:12.48kW_cb400f: but this is not the same
13:13.16kW_cb400f: and the directory is also not the same as the context directory of konqueror
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13:29.02retybokis this the right place to ask about kde plasmoid development?
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13:51.29luxifer_hi there. can anybody tell me whether there's a rather pain-free method of setting up a kde4 default profile for new users (i.e. creating a temp user and copy its settings)? I already found out that /etc/skel/ is not the way to go. Also: Why are some KDE applications (eg. kile) ignoring elemental environment variables such as PATH?
13:51.45annmahu?
13:51.54annmaignoring PATH?
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13:52.15annmaluxifer_: default profile for new users: what KDE version? what sort of "profile"
13:52.26annmaelaborate on each point please
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13:53.02luxifer_kde 4.6.2 and like default settings for users that log into kde for the first time...
13:53.10annma"setting up a kde4 default profile for new users" please tell us what sort of settings yo uwant to propagate to new users
13:53.18annmalog into kde
13:53.28annmaso what do you want to CHANGE from DEFAULT
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13:53.42annmayou loginto KDE and you get default settings
13:54.03annmawhat is it exactly you want to change from this
13:54.07luxifer_style, widgets, widgets configurations, some applications configurations, maybe keybindings and such
13:54.08annmaglobally
13:54.33annmawidgets, widgets configuration: this is plasma config
13:54.42luxifer_and some kde settings like deactivating nepomuk and other services
13:54.53annmastyle, appli configuration: don't you want to use kiosk?
13:55.13annmaadvice: got to techbase.kde.org and look at sysadmin config
13:56.21annmahttp://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/
13:56.25annmahere
13:57.45luxifer_I don't want to lock specific settings i.e. I don't want to force them... I just want to alter the defaults for new users... for KDE3 this could be done using the skel directory but apparently not for kde4
13:58.44annmaskel is distro
13:58.58annmanot kde
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13:59.10annmaskel is where you put stuff
13:59.22annmaare you a sysadmin or not?
13:59.34annmaalter defaults for new users is sysadmin
13:59.42annmayou're root, users are not
13:59.54DeltaEpsilonstill no kde release :-(
13:59.58annmayes yes
14:00.02annmait is released
14:00.19annmamaybe not refreshed but we're releasing RIGHT NOW
14:00.23luxifer_I am a sysadmin.... that's why i ask
14:00.25annmaDeltaEpsilon: I swear
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14:00.55annmaluxifer_: the page I pointed is what you need, not sure what you put in your skel
14:01.13DeltaEpsilonJune, 10th, 2011. KDE Ships First 4.7 Beta of this summer's release
14:01.22annmabut if you did not use kiosk for example in kde3 then you did not amend lots of stuff
14:01.23DeltaEpsilon?? the beta was released on 25 May
14:01.33annmaah wtf
14:01.41annmaDeltaEpsilon: just an error let me look
14:02.14annmaDeltaEpsilon: URL?
14:02.25DeltaEpsilonseems I am already running kde 4.6.4
14:02.47DeltaEpsilonannma: kde.org
14:02.49annmaDeltaEpsilon: what is the URL where yo usaw this 4.7 beta mentiones
14:03.49DeltaEpsilonThis is a list of grave bugs and common pitfalls surfacing after the release was packaged:
14:03.50DeltaEpsilonCurrently none known
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14:04.02DeltaEpsilonso not even one bug is fixed in 4.6.4? :\
14:04.11annmaDeltaEpsilon: please be coherent
14:04.12DeltaEpsilonmy bad.
14:04.19annmaOK
14:04.33annmawhenever you say something please give an URL
14:04.46annmathe kde.org text is being fixed
14:05.00annmathanks
14:05.13luxifer_annma: kubuntu 11.04 doesn't have the kiosktool... also the kiosktool homepage points to a source tarball that's in the KDE3.x/admin folder of the kde ftp server... are you sure that it does work for kde4?
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14:06.34annmaluxifer_afk: you don't need the kiosktool
14:06.37annmado it by hand
14:06.56annmakiosk features work well
14:07.11annmaand for the desktop use plasma scripting
14:07.44DeltaEpsilon4.6.4 seems a it snappier :-)
14:08.02DeltaEpsilonmaybe it is just illusions
14:08.34annmayeah
14:08.47annmait's only a bug fix and not in performance
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14:09.30annmathe delay was because of PIM release and PIM announcement
14:09.50DeltaEpsilonI hope this annoying Rekonq bug is fixed
14:10.44annmawhat bug
14:10.52annmaRekonq is not part of the release, is it?
14:11.00DeltaEpsilonit is not
14:11.02annmaI am not aware Rekonq is offical KDE
14:11.11annmaso nothing to do with the release
14:11.25DeltaEpsilonI think I did see an update for Rekonq int he package manager
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14:14.35annmanothing to do with KDE release DeltaEpsilon
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14:14.51annmado you use Rekonq?
14:15.00apuscan sb tell me how long it will take until the archives for 4.6.4 are on ftp.kde.org?
14:15.04annmasomehow I lost my url bar and can't get it back!!!
14:15.15annmaapus: why do you need them?
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14:15.46tumaixDeltaEpsilon: package manager is not about kde releases.
14:15.54tumaixannma: mother of us all. ;*
14:16.01annmarekonq is too weird for me
14:16.14annmahe tumaix hi!!!!
14:16.24tumaixannma: I like it. integrates well.
14:16.29apus4.6.2 has a lot of issues on my laptop and i wanted to skip 4.6.3 and directly go to 4.6.4 since i am compiling them on gentoo and wanted to know when i can set it to start
14:16.42annmatumaix: rekonq has no KDE settings
14:16.50annmahow can I lose my URL bar
14:17.03annmaand not finding out how to bring it back
14:17.07tumaixannma: heheheeheheh :D
14:17.12tumaixit happened to me too =s
14:17.18annmaoh what did you do
14:17.38annmaKonqueror doe snot support Ajax and I need Rekonq for some stuff
14:17.47apusannma: where did you loose it? konqueror? settings -> shown toolbars
14:17.56annmaapus: Rekonq
14:17.59annmano Konqueror
14:18.05thiagokonqueror and rekonq using the webkitpart behave identically for me
14:18.10thiagosame functionality and same bugs
14:18.18annmathiago: I am not talking about this
14:18.27annmaI am talking about rekonq interface
14:18.35annmanot about rendering
14:18.37ZbubenKonqueror doe snot support Ajax ? wut ? O_o
14:18.58annmaZbuben: my konqueror is built from sources, maybe I miss stuff
14:19.04annmamy Rekonq is from distro
14:19.11annmamy case is special*
14:19.23Zbubenkonqueror is using webkit ? or khtml ?
14:19.31annmakhtml
14:19.34annmadefault
14:19.38|Slacker|my konqueror doesn't support ajax either...but I'm still on kde 4.5.5
14:19.47Zbubenhmmm ok, more or less compatible with some javascript .. sometimes
14:19.48annmaI don't want to switch
14:20.05annmaanyway my request was how to add back Rekonq URL bar
14:20.09DeltaEpsilonI need a nap
14:20.20TheCycoONEAnyone from release team here, there's a few problems with the annoucement/info page... mainly linking to the wrong changelog and the wrong release date
14:20.26|Slacker|I'm just installing rekonq now...tried Arora but didn't like it
14:20.26DeltaEpsilonalso not related to kde release
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14:21.47annmalook at my rekonq http://wstaw.org/m/2011/06/10/plasma-desktopV20827.jpg
14:22.11annmaanyone who can tell me how to get the URL field back is my hero
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14:22.23|Slacker|I think ctrl+m brings back the menubar
14:22.45annmait doe snot
14:22.51|Slacker|0.o
14:22.56annmait should be standard KDE though*
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14:26.32|Slacker|damn, rekonq here gives me a seg fault
14:28.47tumaixannma: does the non - trivial - way counts?
14:28.58tumaixclose rekonq and delete ~/.kde4/share/apps/rekonq
14:29.10tumaixit will get rekonq back to default..
14:29.50annmaoh I'll  try that
14:30.34annmano luck!
14:30.41tumaixwhut?
14:30.44tumaixo.O
14:30.55annmaI think I already tried it
14:31.03tumaixpoke rekonq with dead bunnies.
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14:31.36|Slacker|yeah..
14:31.44|Slacker|suddenly hates rekonq
14:32.17annmasame when removing rekoqrc
14:32.22annmarekonqrc
14:32.57tumaixthat should get things back to normal, what is happening? is the world going mad?
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14:41.42sudokillmight sound silly but is it ok to update kde from terminal while kde is running?
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14:45.55m_tadeusudokill: it's ok to do so
14:46.29m_tadeuremember to restart kde after that
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14:47.34m_tadeulogout/login will do the job, I guess
14:47.53sudokillanother Q- ive disabled recent documents in the menu bar, does kde have a recent document file? like gnome has recently-used.xbel that i could make read only
14:48.48sudokilli cant see anything
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15:21.50annmaapus: why do you need them?
15:22.05annmathey will be later but I am curious why you need them
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15:25.48JackWintera short question, my monitor broke and i had to replace my old 1920x1280 with one that does 1920x1080, fortunately it's bigger :)  however many fonts including system fonts look quit funny, maybe it's the antialiasing that is off?  system has a nvidia with closed driver.  any settings in kde that would influence this?
15:27.37joyyour system is fedora 15?
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15:28.01tumaixJackWinter: what font are you using? ( btw, welcome to the wonderful word of fonts on linux )
15:28.19tumaixJackWinter: I found out that dejavu is one font that works well with aliasing and stuff.
15:28.29JackWintertumaix: i haven't really changed any fonts, so i suppose default kde ones?
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15:28.56annmaapus: can you tell me why you need the tarballs? afterall you can expect as much answers as you give them yourself
15:29.36JackWinterlooks like sans serif
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15:30.36JackWintershould i try dejavu sans?
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15:32.18tumaixJackWinter: try. there's no such thing as 'kde - default', kde doesn't ship with fonts. the linux distro chooses it.
15:33.23JackWinterok, just find it very funny that changing monitor/resolution should have such a big impact on kde appearance (if that is what it is)...  never had to bother with it before
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15:35.26JackWinterthink the dejavu sans looks a little better.  maybe it's just the monitor, but the difference is big to what it was before, it's not something suttle.  but ok thanks for the ideas, maybe i'll ask archlinux if they changed something lately
15:36.41contrastAnyone know if the new KMail in KDE SC 4.6.4 is working with GMail passwords which contain spaces? I know I read about the bug somewhere (after experiencing it when the new Akonadi port of KDEPIM was still in beta), but can't find the report at the moment.
15:36.44JackWinterit's like the smaller sans serif fonts look very crappy, bigger ones look ok.  but who knows with arch, maybe it's an update to xorg or something like that.  there's booth awesomeness and fail when using a rolling release :)
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15:45.09apusannma: i am in a hurry of getting rid of my installed 4.6.2 since there are some nasty bugs... since i compile the stuff (gentoo) i would like to skip 4.6.3 and go straight to 4.6.4 and i just wanted to know when i can set the compilation to start or whether i'll have to wait till tomorrow (if it is practical to wait or just leave it be)
15:45.32annmaGentoo will have it on its mirror
15:45.35annmamirros
15:45.45annmaI just talked to a Gentoo devel
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15:46.19annmapackagers already got the tarballs apus so they can upload those to their mirrors or transform them to rpms and whatever
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15:47.39apusi'll take a look at the mirrors but last i checked it wasn't yet there ... thanks for the info
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15:56.07contrastFound it - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259912 . Looks like it was fixed, in case anyone else was wondering.
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16:08.52PhoenixzEh.. Just in case it may be a KDE issue.. All of the sudden (I made *no* changes to my machine for the last 6 months) my Kubuntu 10.10 machine with KDE 4.6.1 has a memory consumption of >3GB from which 49% is for KDE and 12% is for polkitd, and polkitd is continuously taking some 15% of my CPU.. I've never even seen polkitd as a process, why are they suddenly (since today) having these values??
16:09.27PhoenixzAny known issues that may explain this behaviour? A reboot fixes the problem, but 30 minutes later Im at the same spot again..
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16:24.53Bugsonis there any kde player that supports subtitles?
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16:27.15cb400fkaffeine should have at least some support... otherwise smplayer is almost kde ;-)
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16:28.46BugsonI have no idea how to load subs in kaffeine
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16:30.57cb400fwhat version and what format of subtitles? .. e.g. I have some .srt ones and they're loaded automagically
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16:31.46Bugsoncb400f: microdvd
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16:35.03Bugsoncb400f: that's so funny if the subs and movie are on local machine then it's working, when it's on remote smb, then the subs are not loaded
16:36.32Bugsonhmm kde has some surious problem with smb :/
16:36.36cb400fmaybe you should mount the share
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16:37.33Bugsoncb400f: why if dolphin see everything
16:37.58Bugsonit is mounted but in some very weird way
16:39.20cb400faccessing it "on-the-fly" via kio_smb is not the same as mounting it
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16:42.38gnumdkSomeone know why kmail+akonadi is  trying to kill my hard disk ?
16:42.48gnumdkIs it indexing all my mails ?
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17:35.03cousin_mariohello there
17:35.10cousin_mariohow can I make links clicked on konsole to always open with a browser instead of with e.g. gwenview for pictures?
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17:37.47VergeYou can't do it only for Konsole
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17:38.12VergeKDE-wide setting is in default apps page
17:38.23VergeFor some reason it's called "web browser" but it means web links in general
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17:41.47cousin_marioVerge: I set "open all http and https links" with firefox, but now it's asking me where to save the file
17:41.52cousin_mariois that a browser problem?
17:41.57Vergeno
17:42.11VergeIt's a server problem most likely
17:42.21VergeThey provide a wrong mimetype
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17:43.45cousin_marioright
17:43.53cousin_marioin fact it works for other .jpg links
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18:46.44kurratawhat doest kde uses to see filesystem changes so it can refresh dolphin corectly?(sometimes dolphin doest see all files while konsole does), thunar/pcmanfm uses gamin
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19:06.39MarKsaitishey
19:07.05MarKsaitisdoes one know how do I turn off that small plasma desktop window and get classic desktop back?
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19:12.16MarKsaitisand is there a way to change that KDE start icon?
19:12.36annmaKDE version?
19:12.57annmaplasma desktop "wondow"???
19:13.02annmaplasma desktop "window"???
19:13.07annmascreenshot please
19:13.47annmaKDE start icon on the left of panel can be changed with right click -> Application Launcher Settings
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19:18.34MarKsaitisannma, yeah I changed icon. KDE 4
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19:18.45MarKsaitisMy desktop is gone! I only have a little window on my desktop
19:18.55MarKsaitissome sort of widget
19:18.59sourcemakeris there a known memory leak in desktop search???
19:19.02MarKsaitiscalled "Desktop Folder"
19:19.12MarKsaitisdesktop search doesnt even work for me
19:19.20sourcemakerKDE 4.6.3
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19:57.36MarKsaitisPlease, Can somebody please have a look why can't I emove GNOME as I want to use KDE? I am trying to do that thru aptitude - http://pastebin.com/bymi5eeF
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19:58.14annmaMarKsaitis: ask this question in your distribution channel
19:58.48MarKsaitisok, its debian btw
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20:07.13JoeSomebodyproblem, kde settings for the monitor and video card (nvidia 210) are not saving it seems, i cant get tv out to work
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20:08.01JoeSomebodyi can have the monitor on OR the tv , but not both
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20:18.27JoeSomebodyand on the exact same os (PCLinuxOS KDE) on another box with an ati, i have no problem
20:18.54JoeSomebodyso nvidia which is supposed to be better for linux, seems worse
20:19.02JoeSomebodyany help is appreciated :)
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20:59.16puneetcan anyone tell what is kde-devel?
21:00.00puneetoh sry
21:00.06puneeti meant apr-devel
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21:33.18FrogbarfIs it possible to have different folder view settings on different desktops?
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21:33.28Frogbarfdifferent virtual desktops
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21:37.51cb400fFrogbarf: yes.. with different activities on each virtual desktop
21:41.33Frogbarfcb400f:  how do I do that?
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21:42.17cb400fright click pager -> configure pager -> virtual desktops -> different widgets on each...
21:43.04FrogbarfFound it, thanks
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21:44.43puneetfind_package(KDE4 REQUIRED)
21:44.57puneetcan you tell me waht do i need to install for this?
21:46.16pinotreethe kdelibs development packages of your distro, if the distro has them?
21:46.41puneetpinotree: i am using ubuntu 10.10
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21:47.12pinotreehints: the development packages are those ending with -dev, and check the version of them
21:47.31puneetpinotree: it means i need to install kubuntu desktop?
21:47.37pinotreeno
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21:50.11RichiHon the of chance that anyone in here has heard of this... i swtich from dual-scren to single-screen and now my wallpaper is overlaid over all application windows
21:50.55RichiHother than the alt-tab list, ctrl-alt-del logout menu and ctrl-esc, that is
21:51.10RichiHi.e. my desktop is 100% useless
21:51.36RichiHlogging in with a different user works ust fine
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21:52.44puneetpinotree: do i need to install the kde libraries?
21:53.17pinotreeyou want to compile a kde4 application without kde libraries?
21:53.26puneetno
21:53.38puneetactually i want to know if that is what it means
21:54.16pinotreei mean you need to install the right -dev package for kdelibs of kde4
21:56.30puneetpinotree: and the right -dev package means...it should be compatable with my distro?
21:56.46pinotreecompatable?
21:57.03puneetmeans
21:57.07puneetof my distro
21:57.11pinotreeyes
21:57.24puneetok
21:57.26pinotree(hint: you can use the search function of the package manager of your distro)
21:57.27puneetthanks  :)
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22:02.02puneetpinotree: got it :)
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22:26.00paladin_michaelAnyone know if there's a way to tell PowerDevil to use pm-action?
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22:48.03DeltaEpsilonI need an Amarok alternative
22:48.13DeltaEpsilonAmarok is way too slow
22:48.19hussamclementine rocks.
22:48.26hussamuses Qt
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22:48.45thiago_homeamarok does too
22:49.09hussamadvantage of amarok is use makes use of kde as well
22:49.20hussamit* makes use
22:49.24DeltaEpsilonclementine is a gtk app :\
22:49.30hussamno
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22:51.19BajKto the git users: what's that "cherry picked" thing always I see in commits?
22:52.00thiago_homeit means a commit was cherry-picked
22:52.07thiago_homefrom one branch to another
22:52.33thiago_homeit means "apply the same patch"
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22:53.21hussamfor example, you commit a patch to trunk and since it is safe enough you commit it to a stable branch too (at least that's what I think it means).
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23:01.20DeltaEpsilonI think I am going to make my own mp3 player
23:01.33DeltaEpsilon:\ there is no decent player for kde :\
23:02.03DeltaEpsilonis C++ the only language I can use to code QT4/kde4 apps?
23:02.14hussamamarok and clementine work well. both are Qt4
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23:02.25juank_pradaDeltaEpsilon: I'm in the process of making one
23:02.30DeltaEpsilonamarok is extremely slow
23:02.35juank_prada+1
23:02.42hussamtried clementine?
23:02.50hussamit's not gtk
23:02.55DeltaEpsilondon't like the UI
23:02.59juank_pradai have, its quite like amarok 1.4
23:03.15juank_pradastill i rather use banshee
23:03.22DeltaEpsilonjuank_prada: how far are you with your app?
23:03.42hussambanshee is gtk-sharp, right?
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23:03.49juank_pradaDeltaEpsilon: not really far.. I'm just getting documentation needed i still don't know how to work with phonon
23:03.50DeltaEpsilonyes
23:04.07DeltaEpsilonI don't even know what Phonon is
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23:04.27juank_pradaDeltaEpsilon: then you should start the same way
23:04.51juank_pradaI'm planning on using C++/Qt
23:04.58DeltaEpsilonjuank_prada: any QT4/kde4 dev tutorial/book I can use?/
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23:05.24juank_pradaWell I have lots of links but not here (i'm not at home right now)
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23:05.35juank_pradakde techbase is a good start
23:05.56juank_pradaalso the nokia site has good documentation on QT
23:06.03juank_pradastart there
23:06.19juank_pradathen learn about how is KDE integrated and how to use phonon
23:06.41juank_pradabtw, you can develop your app with python, C and i think there are some other bindings
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23:09.32juank_pradaDeltaEpsilon: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/gettingstartedqt.html
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23:22.49DeltaEpsilonIrony,, the QT sdk installer does not use QT
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23:26.28spectralalso i have a long standing annoying issue with the "places" icon in dolphin.. it shows everything in my fstab (and some devices by label) and i just want it to show my "bookmarks" and nothing else.. i know i can hide stuff in the places panel, but that doesn't affect the icon (if you remove the panel)
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