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02:54.44c2pLaYhiya
02:55.00c2pLaYtrying to figure out how konsole saves new profiles
02:55.07c2pLaYwhere does it save them too?
02:55.09c2pLaYetc..
02:55.25c2pLaYkindof a kde specific question i hope..
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03:02.21c2pLaYcreated a new profile, but can't seem to find its location
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04:49.33rrnWhat is the dev variant of #kde?
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05:15.03rrn_Does "bb" (or some similar application) still exist? I remember running it for fun when I first used Linux (and KDE).
05:15.26rrn_I remember it displaying ASCII animations.
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05:48.38shevyIs there a way to compile kde 4.6.3 without strigi? the strigi website is down for me and compiling strigi 0.6.4 fails for me.
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06:02.36shevyoh wait, found another website... http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/strigi-0.7.2.tar.bz2 this one works
06:03.02shevycompiled already, compiling 4.6.3 kdelibs now. will be back if i have more errors... talking to myself again ... here :)
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06:13.06MiescoHow do you use dolphin to as an ftp client?
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06:14.29Elbarmaybe typing something like "ftp://address" into the filebar does the trick?
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06:16.57cb400fif you use the same ftp server often, it's nice to add an entry for it to the "Places" panel :-)
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06:17.21Elbarhax :P
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08:53.41Magnussonanyone running conky that can help me get started?
08:56.00annmawhat is your question?
08:56.13annmaconky is not a KDE official release application
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08:56.35annmaso either yo uhave a precise question or you try to read some doc from them
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08:58.03Magnussonannma>true, good point. sorry i was just looking for some way to get started using conky themes. thought i'd look in as many places as possible
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09:11.38yecril71plHello, I have quite a situation here.
09:11.52yecril71plWhen I open xmlto.1.gz, it opens in Ark.
09:12.11yecril71plWhen I tell Ark to preview the file, it shows HTML
09:12.27yecril71plWhen I expand and open the file from Dolphin, it shows troff
09:12.30yecril71plWTF?
09:13.30yecril71plBTW, "man xmlto" works normally
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09:26.38yecril71plActually the thing responsible for generating and displaying the HTML is KManPart
09:27.03yecril71plBut why does it show HTML source?
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09:29.33yecril71plAnd what is the product name for KManPart?
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09:30.37annmacan you try to see the mime type for xmlto.1.gz
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09:30.52annmakmimetypefinder xmlto.1.gz
09:31.02jagdeeshhi
09:31.20annmakmimetypefinder xmlto.1.gz yecril71pl
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09:31.33yecril71plthe media type is application/x-gz
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09:31.58annmaso now look in system settings what is associated with that
09:32.00yecril71pl(The same thing happens when I open xmlto.1 in Konqueror)
09:32.14yecril71plThe compressed archive opens in Ark.
09:32.26yecril71plThe Ark preview loads KManPart.
09:32.30annmawhat is in system settings -> file association
09:32.38annmathis is my question
09:32.49yecril71plfor .gz?
09:33.00annmawhat is in system settings -> file association  for application/x-gz
09:33.11annmalist me the apps from to top to bottom
09:33.17yecril71plArk
09:33.19yecril71plComix
09:33.23yecril71pl(EOF)
09:33.41annmaso after Ark opens it, what is th efile?
09:33.52yecril71plThe file contains xmlto.1
09:33.58annmaah
09:34.20annmaso you don't want konqueror to open this xmlto.1, right?
09:34.41yecril71plJust the opposite, I forced Kq to open it
09:35.05yecril71plIt normally opens in KWrite
09:35.16yecril71plbut the preview uses KManPart, and so does Konqueror
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09:35.19annma<yecril71pl> When I tell Ark to preview the file, it shows HTML
09:35.31annmayou did not say you forced it
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09:35.37annmaso
09:35.51yecril71plBut the file does not contain HTML
09:35.53annmawhat's the kmimetypefinder of xmlto.1
09:36.10yecril71pltext/troff
09:36.31annmacan you look again in System Settings -> File Associations what is associated with that
09:36.48yecril71plOpens with KWrite
09:36.52yecril71plEmbeds with KManPart
09:37.12annmasio why did you forced to open with KOnqueror?
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09:37.33yecril71plBecause I wanted it to embed, just like in Ark, to see what is going on
09:38.37annmahmm text/troff is quise confusing
09:39.05yecril71plgroffer understands it all right
09:39.11annmaEmbedding is left click action
09:39.25yecril71plin Ark
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09:39.50annmadid you set troff to be opened as embedded?
09:40.04annmaShow FIle in embedded viewer
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09:40.10annmais that checked?
09:40.33yecril71plUse the settings for "text"
09:40.40annmatry changing this then
09:41.42yecril71plstill embeds
09:42.15yecril71plThat setting probably does not affect Ark
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09:42.25annmadid you restart Ark
09:42.40annmaif not then file a bug against Ark
09:42.42yecril71plLike close all Ark windows?
09:42.45annmayes
09:42.49annmaquit Ark
09:43.09annmaI have to go :(
09:43.33annmaI could try with my settings if I know where your file is
09:43.35yecril71plwants to file a bug against KManPart instead
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09:43.45annmaI am not sure about this at all yecril71pl
09:43.47yecril71pldoes not know what the product name is
09:43.54annmatell me where to get this gz file
09:43.54yecril71plKManPart shows HTML source
09:44.12annmano
09:44.19pinotreeyecril71pl: i'm not understanding what is the issue
09:44.25annmame neither
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09:44.35annmatell me the url to get your gz file yecril71pl
09:44.53annmayecril71pl: ^^
09:44.56yecril71pl<URL: file:///usr/share/man/man1/xmlto.1.gz >
09:45.15annmaso you open this in Ark?
09:45.27yecril71plopened this in Ark
09:45.38yecril71plpintotree: the issue is KManPart displays HTML source
09:45.44pinotree-t
09:46.11pinotreewhich is correct, kmanpart is a kde component to do the html display of man pages
09:46.33yecril71plKManPart does not display HTML
09:46.39yecril71plit displays HTML source
09:46.55yecril71pllike <!DOCTYPE > and stuff
09:47.07pinotreeare you really sure it is kmanpart?
09:47.16yecril71plKonqueror says it is KManPart
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09:48.29yecril71plSo, once more, what is the product name for KManPart?
09:48.40pinotreekio/man
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09:48.52yecril71plOK
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09:49.41dknighthow is kded4 related to hibernation?
09:50.02pinotreethe power management service is a ked module
09:50.04pinotree*kded
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09:55.16dknightpinotree: well each time after resuming from hiberntion kded4 takes up 100% cpu
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09:55.43dknightpinotree: and I can't hibernate again unless I stop and restart kded4
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09:57.00yecril71plBug 273713 Submitted
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09:57.47JackWinterwhat am i doing wrong?  this used to work before..  kdesu kate blah gives a couple of kdesu(21756)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::KDESuPrivate::KCookie::getXCookie: No X authentication info set for display ":0"
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10:03.30yecril71plDelete .Xauthority or something
10:04.02yecril71plor say { xhost +; } (not safe)
10:04.34pinotreexhost +local:  is slightly safer
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10:08.09ABCDand xhost +si:localuser:root is even safer
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10:08.28pinotreesi?
10:08.32pinotree"si"?
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10:09.09ABCD(read xhost(1) )
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10:11.54dknightyecril71pl: what is that bug about?
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10:17.40dawudhi all
10:18.04dawudcan skanlite use network scanners made public with saned?
10:18.49pinotreemy guess would be "try"
10:18.58einar77_workdawud: yes
10:19.00einar77_workit works
10:19.05einar77_workI have a setup like that at home
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10:20.41dawudeinar77_work: ah, ok. thanks! I'm comfortable using command-line and use scanimage, but other people using this LAN need some graphical app. good to know it works. thanks again.
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10:38.41dawudeinar77_work: do you use authentication (/etc/sane.d/saned.users) in your setup?
10:39.12einar77_workdawud: no, IP/subnet based ACL
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11:21.49jenny4usahello, i have some services regarding online accounts creation. i want to share it. pm me for details
11:23.02thiagowhat's the relation to KDE?
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12:34.24tdnHow do I get digikam 2.0 in Ubuntu 11.04? Is there a PPA?
12:36.32cchristiansenwhich version of ubuntu?
12:36.41Verge11.04 apparently
12:37.02cchristiansenoh yeah, sorry, my bad
12:37.45cchristiansen32 or 64 bit? You can find packages at http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/digikam
12:37.55cchristiansenit's at the bottom of the page
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15:27.24Ammlersimion314: if you use alsa, try /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
15:28.02Ammleror something similar, depending on your distro
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15:28.22simion314Ammler: thx
15:28.37Ammler(ask your distro)
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15:43.05jthomas_sbI just swapped out my monitors with larger ones and I've been having some issues overall with my multiple desktops and widgets and wallpapers etc.  Currently, the monitor on the left doesn't display and windows, just the wallpaper and widgets.    Which file(s) could I delete for a default-recreated desktop?   i don't want to lose my kwin rules if possible, keybd shortcuts, etc... i am somewhat temped to reset my whole .kde but I just don't have
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15:44.46annmajuank_prada: what do you want to do exactly with your music player?
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15:45.29juank_pradaannma: organize it, find it easyly, play it, create playlist and sync my xperia with it (this is not that important)
15:45.42juank_pradathe thing is i dont like the interface of Amarok or Clementine
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16:16.09Tekk_where would be the appropriate place for feature requests? the forum? bug tracker?
16:16.48annmabug tracker. Please add a use case to support your request
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17:28.11kevin_bI LOVE KDE <3 :D
17:28.32kevin_bBest Desktop Ever !
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17:57.19dBera_nyone knows how to send non-basic datatypes to qdbus? I need to send something like this: [Variant: [Argument: (ii) 1306, 646]]) - trying to set window size using qdbus
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17:59.31pinotreei guess you need a real application of your own, either qdbus or dbus-send shouldn't be able to handle them
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18:01.18MaximLevitskypinotree: Hi
18:02.04MaximLevitskyOverall I find KDE is very nice
18:02.16MaximLevitskyMuch better that Gnome
18:02.27annmalet's not start a desktop flame
18:02.41annmaKDE works with GNOME, it's only a matter of taste
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18:02.49MaximLevitskySure I owe big thanks to Unity and Ubuntu, really finally pushed me off that horrible mess
18:03.01annmaso avoid this kind of comment, thanks
18:03.03MaximLevitskyI used Gnome about 4 years
18:03.11annmastick with KDE user questions here
18:03.33kevin_bI used Atari before
18:04.42MaximLevitskyAnd I have another small wish about KDE
18:05.13MaximLevitskyIn system settings, I would like to see all modules in one big list instead of categories
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18:05.49MaximLevitskyIt already supports two view modes, I'll try to add another ;-)
18:05.51annmareally? file a bug report( wish) against system settings
18:06.03annmabe sure to explain your use case
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18:06.29MaximLevitskySure, but I can implement that myself too, it sholdn't be difficult
18:06.39MaximLevitskyIts easier that way to find settings
18:06.42annmaso do it
18:06.55annmaKDE is yours
18:06.59MaximLevitskyJust asking what you think?
18:07.18annmapersonally I have trouble with categories, I would not use a list
18:07.35annmahow is your list ordered?
18:07.57annmahow would your list be ordered?
18:07.58MaximLevitskyannma: image the system settings, with same top level categories
18:08.16MaximLevitskyBut inside each category, there is no subcategories
18:08.22annmaouch
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18:08.27annmaso what is there?
18:08.43annmatake a precise example
18:09.02annmasay "instead of doing this and this" yo uwould do "that and that"
18:09.14annmawith this and that beong specific
18:09.18annmabeing
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18:09.37MaximLevitskyFor example in workspace appearance and behaver , it will be like that:
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18:10.22dBera_thiago: oh ... anything you recommend to set this property "property readwrite QSize com.trolltech.Qt.QWidget.size" *using* qdbus ?
18:10.38MaximLevitskydesktop effects. window decorations cursor theme desktop theme splash screen accesability default apps desktop searth ....
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18:10.55dBera_thiago: I can do simple string etc. but not QSize gets signature (ii) which I am having trouble with.
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18:11.07thiagodBera_: set width and height
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18:11.42annmaMaximLevitsky: and why is it better than the 2 current voews?
18:11.46dBera_thiago: hmm... ok. that will work for now. thanks.
18:11.46annmaviews
18:12.18MaximLevitskyannma: currently I need to remember which category each setting disalog belongs
18:12.29annmaremember?
18:12.47MaximLevitskyyes remember
18:12.48annmaand your system will make it intuitive?
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18:12.59annmaI fail to see how
18:13.05MaximLevitskysure, you just scroll down untill you find it
18:13.08MaximLevitskyaka ccsm
18:13.41annmaso how is your ordering organized?
18:13.53MaximLevitskyBy ABC I think
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18:14.03annmayou answer "alphabetical"
18:14.10annmaif you're serious
18:14.25MaximLevitskyannma: why?
18:14.30annmawell alphabetical is depending on locale
18:14.41dBera_thiago: height/width wont work - they are "read" only
18:14.45annmabecause you're a would-be devel?
18:14.58annmaso you need to be serious on wording
18:15.25dBera_thiago: property read int com.trolltech.Qt.QWidget.width - any other hint?
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18:15.31thiagodBera_: then you need to write a script with Python
18:15.36MaximLevitskyannma: really, that doesn't matter. I didn't yet do much in GUIs, but I can learn quite fast
18:15.40annmayou can draw a mockup an dsubmit i tto kde forum fo ra start MaximLevitsky
18:15.47MaximLevitskyI did though few kernel drivers :-)
18:15.52annmaGUI is different from wording
18:16.19dBera_thiago: bleh :( I was hoping to stay within bash. Anyway. Thanks a lot.
18:16.23annmaalphabetical sepends on locale which is a problem for me as I use 2 languages
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18:16.37annmaso long lists are a problem for me
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18:17.13annmathe smartes you can do MaximLevitsky is to submit your idea with a precise mockup on KDE forum and see how people react to it
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18:17.38MaximLevitskyannma: Thanks, will do eventually
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18:18.32MaximLevitskyThis summer I will have a lot of free time and I sure will contribute to KDE
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18:35.51gdxhello a have a question: how to pass argv[1] value from main.cpp to dialog.cpp in qt4?
18:36.50annmain KDE you use KCmdLineArgs
18:36.59annmamaybe
18:37.08annmaask in #qt for Qt only
18:38.35gdxthx
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18:43.26dkrniHi all. Where can I find the source code for the application launcher?
18:43.47dkrni(i've been looking for it, and used google ;)
18:44.04annmado you mean kickoff?
18:44.07dkrniyes
18:44.23annmait's in kde-workspace I think
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18:45.03dkrniok. thanks a lot :)
18:45.39annmakde-workspace/plasma/desktop/applets/kickoff/
18:45.47annmahere precisely
18:46.41dkrnithank you! :)
18:48.17annmayou're welcome
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19:13.22dBera_thiago: sorry to come back ... but nothing seems going with python and dbus either - I am stuck with the same thing as http://www.justlogged.com/Question/1/4805302/00cb443854c5dad49da36435c73351a9
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19:14.26dBera_thiago: specifically, I am not able to set the right parameter for the signature (ii) - tried with QSize, with python tuple, with QVariant((100,200)) - nothing seems to work
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19:16.09thiagocan't help you with python
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19:20.24dBera_thiago: umm... can you point me to any C++ code which is setting some 'variant' "Property" - most example are setting only strings/bools
19:22.25dBera_thiago: I am confused whether I need to wrap the QSize in a QDBusArgument and then a QVariant or the QDBusArgument is automatic
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19:32.43OntologHello, anyone use Kile for KDE?
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19:32.54ChemBroTronme sometimes
19:33.06OntologThe preview pane doesn't work
19:33.15dBera_this error ... anyone? org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: Interface com.trolltech.Qt.QWidget was not found in object /konsole/MainWindow_2
19:33.26Ontologi can generate previews using Quickview and such but the "Preview" window within Kile is always blank
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19:34.31thiagodBera_: sending of QSize should happen automatically in C++
19:35.17ChemBroTroni never use the preview window, how does that woork?
19:35.20ChemBroTron-o
19:35.53Ontologi would imagine, instead of always creating a new window to view the pdf it would appear in the preview pane
19:36.44ChemBroTrondunno
19:36.55ChemBroTroni thought, tex does not work that way
19:38.15dBera_thiago: I think I maybe looking in the wrong direction, I may not be setting "interface_name" argument correctly in - "method void org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set(QString interface_name, QString property_name, QDBusVariant value)"
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19:38.56dBera_thiago: thats why I am trying to find a C++/working example that uses  org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set to set a value
19:39.50OntologChemBroTron: there are various compilation steps but the user doesn't have to be aware of those
19:40.08ChemBroTronyes
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19:40.42ChemBroTronbut i still don't what this preview thing should show
19:40.50ChemBroTrondon't know
19:42.38OntologChemBroTron: i got it to work; it seems its only for highlighting parts of a document
19:42.50thiagodBera_: I think there's a bug in setting properties of interfaces exported like those are
19:42.51OntologChemBroTron: so you highlight a formula for example and select QuickPreview > Mathgroup
19:42.58OntologChanServ: then it renders just that formula
19:43.03Ontologlol ChemBroTron
19:43.39dBera_thiago: ohhh... filed anywhere? any pointers?
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19:55.01thiagodBera_: no, I just remember seeing it once
19:55.04thiagoI never got to fix it
19:56.24dBera_thiago: well... I was trying to find a quick way to resize/move windows (KDE 4.3.x) - any thing else you can recommend? ruby/python/any scripting is fine
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20:22.25AristideHi !
20:22.34AristideI have a problem with KDE 4.6.3
20:22.44Aristidehttp://zupimages.net/up/0/1930333928.jpeg <= Look the "tab size" :/
20:22.51AristideIts very very too big ><
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20:28.31AristideHi !
20:28.44AristideI have a problem with KDE 4.6.3 :/ http://zupimages.net/up/0/1930333928.jpeg
20:28.48AristideIts very too big :o
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21:58.05bouncer44hi, I have a permission issue, cant change system settings. on KDE 4.4.5 (Freebsd 8.1)
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22:21.43raininjaok mates
22:22.34raininjakde4 is somehow disabling my touchpad, irregardless of the settings.  is there a way to remove the touchpad section of system settings, and any related settings?
22:22.57raininjano errors in Xorg.log and the touchpad works until kde loads
22:23.26raininjathe first time it stopped working was just after attempting to change the settings with the system settings module
22:24.08raininjadammit it is post dinner in the EU isnt it
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23:50.32kde_peporaininja, it is nearly 2 am in europe now :)
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23:50.57raininjakde_pepo: yup, and I figured out the issue
23:51.24raininjakcmtouchpadrc is conflicting with the xorg.conf.d settings
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23:51.35raininjai moved it and it works fine
23:52.23raininjawell i actually did not figure it out, i found the solution on the chakra forums, someone else had the exact same issue
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