| 00:00.01 | ZenGuy | valorie: thanks for responding |
| 00:00.43 | valorie | heh, it's not often I know enough to answer a question in here |
| 00:00.44 | ZenGuy | I used it on my desktop for a while but I haven't used kde on the desktop except through virtual machines for about 2-3 years |
| 00:00.45 | valorie | :-) |
| 00:00.55 | valorie | so nice to be thanked! |
| 00:01.18 | valorie | I've been KDE ever since I switched to linux |
| 00:01.29 | valorie | which was almost 10 years ago, I guess |
| 00:01.33 | ZenGuy | valorie: no problem, It's a pretty neet feature.. I forgot to try t ut in opera or chrome to see if it worked teher |
| 00:01.55 | ZenGuy | i've only been using linux for 6 years |
| 00:02.16 | ZenGuy | I been using it on the desktop daily for about 2 years now |
| 00:02.23 | valorie | cool |
| 00:02.54 | ZenGuy | valorie: is the strigi serach index slow or fast? I keep hearing different experiences |
| 00:03.34 | valorie | I think that depends on your setup |
| 00:03.54 | valorie | it used to crash all the time for me |
| 00:04.03 | valorie | now I don't notice it |
| 00:04.22 | valorie | 4.6.2 is pretty sweet |
| 00:04.39 | ZenGuy | ouch.. I wouldn't want to deal with that.. on windows I use locate32 to which is based on locate and it works great |
| 00:05.24 | ZenGuy | I just discovered 4.6.2 reease today but it isn;t avialable in the repos yet |
| 00:06.02 | ZenGuy | what distro do you use? |
| 00:06.16 | valorie | Kubuntu |
| 00:06.29 | valorie | I think it was in backports |
| 00:06.39 | ZenGuy | pclinuxos has been the best experience with kde for me.. kubuntu has a native kde interface though I think |
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| 00:07.36 | ZenGuy | valorie: I think user complaints put me off from using kubuntu ,, but some apps are great like ktorrent and the future of kde in general |
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| 00:08.51 | valorie | there are user complaints for every distro |
| 00:09.15 | valorie | nobody is perfect, and we're all doing the best we can with the resources at our disposal |
| 00:09.23 | ZenGuy | yeah, I know .. i'm still a distro hopper |
| 00:09.41 | valorie | ever since I found kub., it's been my home |
| 00:09.58 | ZenGuy | I have like 20+ distro iso's on a number of my pc's and external hardrives |
| 00:10.01 | valorie | bottom line for me - if it runs Amarok for me, I'm good |
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| 00:10.27 | valorie | everybody else's bottom line will be different |
| 00:11.33 | ZenGuy | thats one thing I haven;t done yet.. is utilize my whole music library on my linux desktop/laptop.. I only use a couple gigs .. |
| 00:12.07 | szal | PCLOS makes KDE really sweet, but it lacks some software.. pkg base isn't very broad there |
| 00:12.30 | szal | other than that, I found openSUSE's KDE implementation very consistent |
| 00:13.52 | ZenGuy | it isn't that's why I'm willing to branch out more for kde distors with more updated packages.. plus ubuntu/kubuntu gets premiere support from app developers.. |
| 00:14.09 | valorie | that is a popular one, and the suse people are very cool |
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| 00:14.35 | szal | yeah, but for *buntu this is more on the Gnome/Gtk side of things |
| 00:14.51 | ZenGuy | I havent tried opensuse in like 4 or 5 years .. the last time I remember installing it wasw with multiple cd's.. .my hardware probably sucked becuase I keep thinking 'slow' |
| 00:14.52 | szal | Kubuntu is kind-of a 2nd-class citizen at Canonical |
| 00:15.15 | valorie | true, but with that comes freedom |
| 00:15.28 | valorie | I'm happy there |
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| 00:15.45 | valorie | is a Kubuntu Member |
| 00:15.48 | valorie | :-) |
| 00:16.06 | szal | openSUSE today is far more evolved than SUSE ever was before openSUSE came to be |
| 00:16.23 | szal | is running KDE on Fedora atm |
| 00:16.28 | ZenGuy | well the gnome thing isnt; far off since initally i wasn;t enamored with it but I grew n me because of all those configs and turtuials and apps/cool hacks |
| 00:16.50 | valorie | the *buntu people are all cool |
| 00:17.20 | valorie | OS and software aren't religion or politics |
| 00:17.25 | ZenGuy | how do you manage your fedora install since the support window isn;t long and you have to probably reinstall or stay with a somewhat stale system |
| 00:17.30 | valorie | everyone should use what they like, IMO |
| 00:17.39 | szal | surprisingly good, but the underlying system is a bit lacking in the non-free department, so it'll probably boil down to me changing back to SUSE in the long haul |
| 00:18.06 | szal | for the desktop user SUSE should be especially attractive now that there is Tumbleweed |
| 00:18.36 | valorie | what is Tumbleweed? |
| 00:18.49 | buckethead | How can I turn off KDM auto-login from the command line? |
| 00:18.50 | ZenGuy | does suse provide the latest kde packages without compiling.. I know how to compile and not afriad too but it's sometimes time consuming |
| 00:19.05 | ZenGuy | tumbleweed? |
| 00:19.15 | szal | valorie: kind-of a rolling release model, supposed to be the development base for the next release version |
| 00:19.23 | valorie | interesting |
| 00:19.28 | ZenGuy | szal: nice |
| 00:19.30 | valorie | gentoo-on-suse |
| 00:19.31 | valorie | lol |
| 00:19.32 | szal | ZenGuy: yes, current KDE is available from the Build Service |
| 00:19.54 | ZenGuy | szal: `was kde build service avialable 4 -5 years ago? |
| 00:20.47 | szal | ZenGuy: openSUSE Build Service, that is, in short OBS.. been around for a while now, but I think 5 years ago it didn't exist yet |
| 00:21.14 | szal | must've been around openSUSE 10.2 or 10.3 that the OBS came to be |
| 00:21.33 | szal | ~2007 |
| 00:21.45 | ZenGuy | yeah I'll try opensuse some time tommorow.. I need to get new hardware.. I haven't purchsed a new pc or laptop in 3 years |
| 00:22.23 | szal | ZenGuy: a dual-core, fairly recent gfx card and 2 GB of RAM will do |
| 00:22.48 | ZenGuy | I think it should be a crime to sell a pc/laptop with less than 2Gb's of ram |
| 00:23.26 | ZenGuy | it's almost impossible to multi task with less without contant hanging of apps and swaping of the swap |
| 00:23.26 | ahiemstra | ooh distro wars |
| 00:23.33 | szal | heheh |
| 00:23.46 | szal | not really wars, just exchanging experiences ^^ |
| 00:23.51 | ahiemstra | mm |
| 00:24.17 | ahiemstra | allow me to chime in saying I personally love arch |
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| 00:24.32 | ahiemstra | though I recognise being on the bleeding edge is not for everyone :) |
| 00:24.46 | szal | Arch is a good thing.. if you keep up with fixing stuff that doesn't get fixed automatically |
| 00:25.07 | ZenGuy | at the moment I'm using pclinuxos, linuxmint, jolicloud, backtrack, slitaz & ubuntu ..i'm going to try out chakra soon too |
| 00:25.13 | szal | my Arch installation fell apart after like 6 months, so I dropped it |
| 00:25.27 | ahiemstra | mm |
| 00:25.43 | ahiemstra | that actually has always been my experience with kubuntu :p |
| 00:25.58 | ZenGuy | ahiemstra: I tried installing arch fell on my face.. even though admittley I was trying to zip through it by pressing enter repeatedly..will take a more serious look at it when I can.\ |
| 00:26.07 | ahiemstra | heh |
| 00:26.09 | szal | left *buntu alone before it could fall apart on him |
| 00:26.16 | ZenGuy | szal: lol |
| 00:26.24 | ahiemstra | the arch installer is not really something to zip through :) |
| 00:26.47 | buckethead | No. Lots of pitfalls in there. |
| 00:26.51 | ahiemstra | and even after that you'll only have the bare minimum |
| 00:27.02 | ZenGuy | yeah I've been running into wierd bugs on *buntu and it's derivitaves when I run them from usb persistence mode |
| 00:27.11 | ahiemstra | then comes the fun of hand picking what packages you want installed :) |
| 00:27.14 | szal | ZenGuy: advice not only for Arch but for virtually every distro: pre-partition your drives and use custom partition layout in the installer |
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| 00:27.49 | ZenGuy | szal: I might try to install it on a usb to get the feel of it |
| 00:28.25 | ZenGuy | installing and operating on a usb flash drive is a no risk situation for me |
| 00:28.59 | buckethead | Guys, Any suggestions why KDE 4.6.2 wouldn't start on Arch but startx works perfectly? Logs don't seem to have anything useful. |
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| 00:29.13 | szal | ZenGuy: the greatest risk being your USB drive wearing out; flash memory cannot be written to indefinitely |
| 00:29.35 | ZenGuy | ahiemstra: whats the hardware support like on arhc.. the one thing I rarely ever worried about on linux is driver support for cameras, printers, etc ..only wifi cards like 5 years ago |
| 00:29.42 | ahiemstra | buckethead: are you using kdm? |
| 00:29.55 | buckethead | ahiemstra: Yes. |
| 00:30.16 | ahiemstra | buckethead: checked /var/log/kdm.log ? |
| 00:30.33 | ahiemstra | ZenGuy: not better or worse than other distros |
| 00:30.54 | ahiemstra | though I've yet to get suspend to work... somehow it never wants to resume properly |
| 00:31.00 | szal | ZenGuy: what do you need a camera driver for? except if you mean 'webcam' by 'camera' |
| 00:31.16 | buckethead | /etc/rc.d/kdm start gets a 'watch' mouse pointer for a second and then back to the command promp. |
| 00:31.20 | buckethead | Nothing really useful. It seems to end with a 'resize called 1440 900' |
| 00:31.53 | ahiemstra | ZenGuy: in fact, I'd argue in some areas arch is way better because its on the bleeding edge |
| 00:32.12 | ahiemstra | specifically, open graphics drivers |
| 00:32.52 | szal | ahiemstra: KDE 4.2 on Arch felt a bit sluggish on my old single-core machine; same version on openSUSE felt like double as fast |
| 00:33.32 | ahiemstra | szal: intel video card? |
| 00:33.41 | szal | ahiemstra: no, older nVidia |
| 00:33.45 | ahiemstra | oh |
| 00:33.55 | szal | both times w/ proprietary driver |
| 00:34.10 | ZenGuy | szal: just want some driver support when I need it |
| 00:34.19 | ahiemstra | mm, can't really say what would be causing it |
| 00:35.43 | szal | ZenGuy: well, what would you need it for? if you want to copy your pics from the memory card, get a card reader or set the camera to mass storage mode (if available), and firmware updates or other in-camera software manipulation normally cannot be done in Linux, afaik |
| 00:35.54 | ahiemstra | buckethead: there's a command that can be used to start kde bypassing kdm... something like ck-start-session ...something |
| 00:36.10 | ZenGuy | szal: my camera can double as a webcam |
| 00:36.23 | ahiemstra | you could use that to try and pin the issue down to whether its kdm or all of kde |
| 00:36.28 | ZenGuy | szal: accessing memory cards has never been a problem for me |
| 00:39.35 | szal | anyhoo, gotta go sleep.. n8 peeps ^^ |
| 00:39.51 | ZenGuy | szal: night.. it's 8:39pm here |
| 00:39.59 | szal | 2:40 am |
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| 00:40.34 | ZenGuy | is there anyway to record 2 parts of the screen at the same time to 2 seperate files? |
| 00:41.49 | ahiemstra | ZenGuy: why not record it all to one file and split it later? |
| 00:43.34 | ZenGuy | it's sort of an inelegant solution but it's the most obvious.. I'll try that.. i wonder if it's possible to record 2 seprate audio outputs if they come from different browsers? |
| 00:45.36 | buckethead | Haha. The problem was a full /. |
| 00:45.48 | Scunizi | ZenGuy: yes.. install pavucontrol and then either sound recorder or audacity.. you'll need one recording window for each stream.. then after whatever is playing and recording open pavucontrol and set the streams to be recorded and where. |
| 00:45.49 | buckethead | Is there a page somewhere with recommended maintenance procedures? |
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| 00:46.00 | ZenGuy | buckethead: a full hidden root directory? |
| 00:46.57 | buckethead | Er, no.. A root directory referenced at the end of a sentance. Haha! |
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| 00:47.58 | ZenGuy | buckethead: I have no clue what that mean or how i can possibly avoid your situation |
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| 05:22.57 | hanibana | hi. I've set the avatar for my jabber account in kopete on both my identity and user info. But, others still don't see it. :-( |
| 05:23.00 | hanibana | any idea? |
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| 07:13.54 | kolla | how do I move an entire panel from bottom of the screen to the top? |
| 07:14.21 | kolla | in kde3 that was just a simple panel setting... and one could just pull the panels around |
| 07:14.50 | pinotree | yeah, and accidentally move panels |
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| 07:15.06 | kolla | well, good greef, that really happens to me alot |
| 07:15.08 | kolla | ... not |
| 07:15.32 | pinotree | right click on the panel â settings â over the "screen side" button and drag it |
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| 07:19.45 | kolla | ah, got it |
| 07:19.49 | kolla | thanks |
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| 07:54.57 | szal | possible bug: KMail 1.13.6 (KDE 4.6.1) doesn't empty trash on exit even though the respective checkbox in the settings is checked |
| 07:56.55 | szal | hmm, seems to have been a glitch.. quit and restarted KMail and now trash is empty |
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| 07:57.47 | szal | enhydra: wtf.. why do you notice ppl when you set yourself away? |
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| 08:16.05 | theZagnut | Hi |
| 08:16.15 | theZagnut | What is the hotkey for switching desktops? |
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| 08:16.43 | eshat | Annoying kmail bug on 4.6.1: First start fails due to akonadi, second launch is fine. Ideas ? |
| 08:17.18 | cb400f | theZagnut: Ctrl+F1/F2/F3 etc. |
| 08:17.46 | cb400f | always sets ctrl+tab to switch to next desktop, which is not set by default |
| 08:17.53 | theZagnut | cb400f, thanks :) |
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| 08:25.59 | wodim | eshat: upgrade 4.6.2 |
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| 08:27.03 | eshat | wodim: upgrade will take a while on debian, but thanks, so it is a known bug. |
| 08:27.14 | eshat | wodim: in kmail ? |
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| 08:27.21 | wodim | in akonadi |
| 08:27.36 | wodim | it happened to me too |
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| 09:52.51 | kollapse | Hi. This is a littlestrange question, but how do you re-enable konsole's menu strip ? I seem to have "misplaced" it. :-) |
| 09:59.33 | cb400f | try ctrl+m |
| 09:59.57 | cb400f | ctrl+shift+m |
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| 10:00.14 | cb400f | kollapse: ^ |
| 10:00.38 | kollapse | cb400f: Finally, I've been missing that for 3 months now. Thanks a lot. :P |
| 10:01.21 | cb400f | you could also have just nuked the konsole config file :-) |
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| 13:27.56 | Alvo | hi how can i disable the kde sounds? |
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| 13:30.04 | Alvo | ah i was there already but now i foun d it it is under player settings, thanks |
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| 13:33.31 | ademmer | does anyone have any idea why the filter panel for nepomuksearch in dolphin 4.6 is greyed out? nepomuksearch itself works fine and finds results, but the filter panel does not open automatically together with search bar (like it used to before re-installing withopensuse 11.4). so the semantic search itself works fine (so this does not seem to be caused by broken strigi/nepomuk), only the facets panel seems broken. any suggestions? |
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| 13:46.19 | Thra11 | gtk apps are still using application styles set by qtcurve despite qtcurve no longer being installed. Does anyone know of any files that could still be affecting gtk apps' appearance? |
| 13:50.23 | Sho_ | Thra11: echo $GTK2_RC_FILES |
| 13:52.31 | Thra11 | Sho_: Thanks |
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| 14:14.15 | zorael | I have a strategy game running in fullscreen that pans the screen by moving the cursor to the edges, but that triggers my Screen Edges setup. Is there any way to set a window rule to disable edges while running this game? |
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| 14:25.51 | loonyphoenix | hey. kde with newer udisks (1.0.3) fails to mount external ntfs drives (maybe not only those) |
| 14:25.55 | loonyphoenix | is that known? |
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| 14:30.52 | hussam | nevermind, looks like archlinux packaged a snapshot :/ |
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| 14:48.20 | loonyphoenix | hussam: yeah, arch user here :) |
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| 14:48.40 | loonyphoenix | bugreport: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270689 |
| 14:49.49 | hussam | thanks, cced myself |
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| 14:50.49 | loonyphoenix | hussam: testing users do run into these kinds of problems from time to time :) |
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| 14:51.13 | hussam | yup :) |
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| 14:57.25 | hussam | loonyphoenix, last year andyrtr went to #midori and say hello archers. that was funny because it turned out half the people there were indeed archlinux users |
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| 14:59.11 | loonyphoenix | hussam: :) wonder which other channels are heavily archlinuxed |
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| 14:59.28 | hussam | :D |
| 14:59.30 | loonyphoenix | hussam: methinks #awesome |
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| 15:14.53 | morsik | yeah, gtk menus in xbar works :D |
| 15:14.58 | morsik | http://wstaw.org/m/2011/04/11/2011-04-11-171215_1920x1080_scrot.png |
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| 17:02.51 | halakar | Hey gang. hoping you can help me figure out why when I run the uptime command, it shows 3 users. |
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| 17:14.39 | ozzzy | dunno... mine shows 4 |
| 17:14.56 | ozzzy | but it's me... 4 times |
| 17:15.14 | ozzzy | type 'who' |
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| 17:17.04 | HaDAk | I just upgraded from KDE 4.4.5 to 4.6.2 (Gentoo). In 4.4.5, each of my three monitors was a separate activity that I could maximize windows to. The default behavior in 4.6.2 is to maximize across all monitors. Is there a way to toggle between those two functionalities? |
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| 18:22.33 | HaDAk | Anyone alive in here? |
| 18:23.18 | leo_rockway | HaDAk: me... I think. |
| 18:23.41 | HaDAk | Hopefully you can help me leo_rockway |
| 18:24.27 | leo_rockway | tell me |
| 18:24.36 | HaDAk | I just upgraded from kde 4.4.5 to 4.6.2. i have a triple head display. in 4.4.5, each display was it's own activity, and i could maximize windows to that display, and drag it to another display and do the same there. i had full acceleration from my ATI card. |
| 18:25.21 | HaDAk | upon upgrading, i cannot accomplish the same, intended functionality. kde insists on having either one giant desktop, OR multiple desktops that I can't drag windows between. if i enable xinerama, it kills video performance, and gives me a single desktop. |
| 18:26.09 | leo_rockway | I have two displays (laptop screen and an external monitor) and I can switch windows around without a problem. I do not have ATi, though. |
| 18:26.12 | leo_rockway | and I don't have nonfree drivers. |
| 18:26.39 | leo_rockway | I just use the kxrandr tool |
| 18:28.05 | HaDAk | well, my problem is this: after the upgrade, when i started kde, it took my third display (which was technically display 1, because of the adapter i had it on), and it stretched it across all three screens. any windows i opened were opened off screen, and i had no way of getting to them. i could *see* they were open by hitting alt-tab, though. |
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| 18:30.39 | leo_rockway | are you using the drivers by ATI or the radeon? |
| 18:30.44 | leo_rockway | radeon drivers* |
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| 18:31.42 | HaDAk | i'm using ATI's drivers. |
| 18:32.07 | James147 | HaDAk: try creating a new user and seeing how it works for them |
| 18:32.38 | HaDAk | James147, since my kde settings were trashed when i logged in, i moved .kde4 to .kde4.old, and it used the defaults. |
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| 18:42.09 | Ammler | how do I configure KDE to make hashed .ssh/known_hosts entries? |
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| 18:45.24 | linuxguy101 | Ammler: you doing this in shell? |
| 18:45.55 | Ammler | linuxguy101: if I use sftp with dolphin, it complains about ssh fingerprint |
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| 18:46.18 | linuxguy101 | what are you trying to connect to? |
| 18:46.20 | Ammler | the issue is that I have hashed keys in there but KDE wants to write without hash |
| 18:46.31 | Ammler | sftp://host |
| 18:46.39 | linuxguy101 | local host/ |
| 18:46.40 | linuxguy101 | ? |
| 18:46.45 | Ammler | hmm? |
| 18:46.54 | linuxguy101 | is it on your home network? |
| 18:47.03 | Ammler | I typoe that in the addressbar of Dolphin :-) |
| 18:47.17 | linuxguy101 | so this is somewhere out on the web? |
| 18:47.39 | Ammler | then Dolphin complained with "dditional Information: The host key for this server was not found, but another type of key exists. An attacker might change the default server key to confuse your client into thinking the key does not exist. Please contact your system administrator." |
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| 18:47.53 | linuxguy101 | Ammler: what distro? |
| 18:48.01 | Ammler | and this error is because the exisiting key is hashed |
| 18:48.14 | Ammler | suse, does that matter? |
| 18:48.20 | linuxguy101 | some timesw |
| 18:48.24 | linuxguy101 | some times |
| 18:48.47 | linuxguy101 | hmm.. i have never tried dolphin on ftp |
| 18:48.48 | Ammler | I already spoke with #opensuse-kde and now I just wonder, how I can enable that on KDE afterwards |
| 18:48.53 | linuxguy101 | have you tried konqueror/ |
| 18:48.54 | linuxguy101 | ? |
| 18:48.56 | Ammler | somehow it got lost on upgrade |
| 18:49.22 | Ammler | linuxguy101: yep, I have, it is a KDE issue, also Krusader |
| 18:49.31 | linuxguy101 | hmm.. |
| 18:49.37 | Ammler | I backuped .ssh/known_hosts and was able to connect |
| 18:49.48 | Ammler | then I saw the entry unhashed |
| 18:49.49 | linuxguy101 | have you gont into the /home/.ssh and removed the files there? |
| 18:50.04 | Ammler | yep, exactly then it worked |
| 18:50.21 | linuxguy101 | ok problem solved |
| 18:50.41 | Ammler | but KDE made a unhashed entry, but I would like to have it hashed |
| 18:50.41 | Ammler | no |
| 18:50.41 | Ammler | :-) |
| 18:50.41 | linuxguy101 | oh ok |
| 18:50.49 | linuxguy101 | have you tried krusader? |
| 18:50.58 | Ammler | [20:49] <Ammler> linuxguy101: yep, I have, it is a KDE issue, also Krusader |
| 18:51.19 | linuxguy101 | krusader didnt work either? |
| 18:51.41 | Ammler | isn't krusader a kde app too? |
| 18:52.03 | linuxguy101 | it may be now, but it wast a year ago |
| 18:52.18 | Ammler | the question was simple: how do I tell KDE to make hashed known_hosts entries? |
| 18:52.35 | linuxguy101 | go to your rpm section and download krusader |
| 18:52.48 | linuxguy101 | try that.. |
| 18:53.01 | linuxguy101 | it also could be a firewall not being set |
| 18:53.14 | linuxguy101 | or set up but blocking it |
| 18:53.16 | Ammler | did you read a line I wrote? |
| 18:53.28 | Ammler | I know the issue |
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| 18:53.40 | Ammler | KDE writes unhahsed fingerprints |
| 18:53.56 | Ammler | ssh writes hashed fingerprints |
| 18:53.57 | linuxguy101 | what version kde? |
| 18:54.03 | Ammler | 4.6.0 |
| 18:54.50 | linuxguy101 | ok |
| 18:55.04 | Ammler | I could change ssh to make unhashed fingerprints too, but I prefer to have KDE write hashed fingerprints |
| 18:55.15 | linuxguy101 | it is probly a bug |
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| 18:57.43 | hussam | hello, I'm having an issue with kmail 1.13.6 under kde 4.6.2 (according to About KMail) |
| 18:57.57 | hussam | when it is checking for new mail, it goes up to 100% CPU |
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| 18:58.23 | hussam | which makes it freeze plus other parts of the desktop |
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| 18:59.33 | linuxguy101 | Ammler: my version of dolphin will not do ftp |
| 19:00.13 | linuxguy101 | Ammler: i am using 4.4.3 kde |
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| 19:00.47 | kiuma_ | hello |
| 19:00.50 | kiuma_ | I've two problems with kde4.5. The first is that I see more then one device for soundcard, while now I've only one, the other is that kde is no longer able to play system sound after last update, an now I'm not able to logout (sound back-end is gstreamer). Can you help me please ? |
| 19:01.17 | hussam | is it a know issue with kmail? |
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| 19:05.51 | Ammler | linuxguy101: sftp |
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| 19:06.40 | thiago_home | hussam: kmail 1.x is not maintained. KMail 2 is the new codebase. |
| 19:07.23 | eshat | thiago_home: is that the reason why the button on the bottom in kmail is smaller than the arrow on it for over a year??? |
| 19:07.35 | hussam | is it part of any release, thiago_home? |
| 19:07.50 | thiago_home | eshat: what button? |
| 19:07.54 | thiago_home | hussam: not released yet |
| 19:08.02 | hussam | ok thank you :) |
| 19:08.02 | eshat | thiago_home: when it is donwloading mails |
| 19:08.09 | eshat | or updateing |
| 19:08.20 | linuxguy101 | Ammler: i just tried that and it doesnt work.. you are on a newer version of kde than i am so this is totally new |
| 19:08.22 | thiago_home | eshat: it's not smaller. |
| 19:08.26 | eshat | it is |
| 19:08.34 | eshat | wait, I'll upload an image |
| 19:08.37 | linuxguy101 | not sure if i like the idea that dolphin has web access |
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| 19:08.57 | Ammler | linuxguy101: I am quite sure, sftp worked also on KDE 4.4 and earlier |
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| 19:10.56 | linuxguy101 | however i am not using suse |
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| 21:50.23 | qop | Hei there... I am having some problems with ca and kde apps. "he server failed the authenticity check" on any secured connection |
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| 21:50.50 | qop | this is, like in kmail or kopete etc... I have reinstalled the qca and even compiled my own but nothing |
| 21:50.55 | qop | any ideas? |
| 21:51.19 | qop | an yes, the certificates are valid :) |
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| 21:52.33 | crashmag | is there a way of preventing kde/dolphin from downloading media over the network and simply play it? |
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| 21:55.55 | thiago_home | dolphin playing media? |
| 21:56.27 | Kerd | hi, when i compile same application for kde, like konversation or kmess i receive this error: http://pastebin.com/Qnz8pam4 someone can help me ? |
| 21:57.21 | qop | crashmag: dolphin always will, and with konqueror go to settings - configure konqueror - file associations - "select your target file type" - and o to embeded - select embed |
| 21:57.24 | crashmag | thiago, obviously not. but the same behaviour is there whether i use smplayer, dragon player or whatever. Even if one goes from %U, to %u, to %f and to %F as a launch parameter. It's all the same. Dolphin is the only thing that remains constant. |
| 21:58.18 | thiago_home | crashmag: what is? |
| 21:58.24 | thiago_home | crashmag: dolphin isn't supposed to play media |
| 21:59.14 | crashmag | thiago_home, again.. obviously not. however you use it to find it. and regardless of the media player kde/dolphin wants to download it locally before playing it. |
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| 22:00.16 | thiago_home | crashmag: and if you open those files straight from the media players, it plays without downloading? |
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| 22:00.44 | crashmag | thiago_home, you cant if you wanna make use of smb:// for instance. same issue. |
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| 22:00.58 | crashmag | from what i've read if you acutally mount it, it will not happen. |
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| 22:01.33 | crashmag | there's code here somewhere that initiates this when something is on the network. I need a way of turning it off or working around it. |
| 22:02.17 | qop | crashmag: embeding settings... |
| 22:02.38 | thiago_home | crashmag: in other words, is there any way that a KDE media player will not download? |
| 22:02.51 | crashmag | qop, that will launch the external player and play the media directly? |
| 22:03.02 | qop | this is, like in kmail or kopete etc... I have reinstalled the qca and even compiled my own but nothing. an yes, the certificates are valid :) Ideas? |
| 22:03.04 | crashmag | thiago_home, yes if you mount the drive. but its really besides the point. |
| 22:03.16 | thiago_home | crashmag: then it has nothing to do with dolphin |
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| 22:03.43 | qop | crashmag: yes, in konqueror, if the protocol and fletype can be emeded |
| 22:03.51 | qop | in dolphin no way |
| 22:03.58 | crashmag | thiago_home, obviously there is.. dude.. i appreciate feedback but you're so way off base. |
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| 22:04.06 | qop | Hei there... I am having some problems with ca and kde apps. "he server failed the authenticity check" on any secured connection |
| 22:04.11 | mxttie | kaffeine will stream |
| 22:04.26 | crashmag | mxttie, i tried it. it didnt. |
| 22:04.39 | qop | crashmag: dolphin is not designed that way... |
| 22:04.48 | thiago_home | crashmag: I don't think there is. I'm asking if you found a way. |
| 22:04.56 | qop | crashmag: I could? yes of course, it does? nope |
| 22:05.07 | qop | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.16 | thiago_home | crashmag: from your msg, it sounds like it works if you open the file in the app, but not if you launch from dolphin |
| 22:05.36 | thiago_home | crashmag: but in the follow up questions, it sounded like it doesn't work ever, which is what I expected |
| 22:05.54 | crashmag | thiago_home, christ. if you open it from the app. you still use the kde filechooser. so if you pick a network location. it still tries to download it. |
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| 22:06.13 | crashmag | qop, how is it that you know this for a fact? (just asking here) |
| 22:06.18 | thiago_home | crashmag: it's not the file chooser that downloads it |
| 22:06.21 | thiago_home | crashmag: it's the app itself |
| 22:06.48 | crashmag | thiago_home, the buildt in kde mechanism that shows up in the tray tells me its downloading. that's not application related. |
| 22:06.50 | thiago_home | crashmag: in other words, none of those apps can work with a remote file. They need to download it. |
| 22:06.55 | mxttie | i tried it a few weeks ago, normally, it should work in kaffeine (which is a program supporting kioslaves) and the smb protocol. if it does not work, there is something wrong with your install :) |
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| 22:07.03 | thiago_home | crashmag: it's the same thing. The app asked for the file to be downloaded. |
| 22:07.17 | qop | crashmag: are u trollin? |
| 22:07.57 | qop | crashmag: everybody is telling u so... and it is out of logic, dolphin is a file manager not a media player or media browser.. |
| 22:08.15 | qop | anyway, try it out I dont cae |
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| 22:08.44 | qop | I just need to figure out what to do with my QCA =/ |
| 22:08.58 | thiago_home | qop: it has nothing to do with dolphin |
| 22:09.02 | leo_rockway | thiago_home: right click > play with? |
| 22:09.50 | crashmag | be it dolphin or not. I have no idea. All i know if you use dolphin, select a file on the network.. the kde tray icon tells you its downloading the file. which is retarded. why would i want to download gigabytes of data when i could stream it. and if you try to play it directly from a drive or a mount share. then it does not. that's not application logic. |
| 22:10.55 | leo_rockway | crashmag: I think what you're saying makes sense. I've seen that behaviour and found it odd. |
| 22:11.01 | mxttie | crashmag: i have found an option in file association :) "ask whether to save to disk instead (only for konqueror browser)" |
| 22:11.32 | crashmag | mxttie, so you've seen the same thing and decided to use konq instead? |
| 22:11.38 | mxttie | if the filemanager is configured to pass the url to the player and the player can handle kioslaves, it should stream |
| 22:11.42 | leo_rockway | I don't use Dolphin either. |
| 22:11.45 | qop | crashmag: because "streaming" is made by -browsers- not file managers, if the file is in a -remote- protocol, the manager wont care if the file is in the same machine or in China |
| 22:11.59 | thiago_home | crashmag: I'm telling you it's not dolphin |
| 22:12.01 | qop | mxttie: right |
| 22:12.04 | thiago_home | crashmag: the apps download the file |
| 22:12.21 | crashmag | leo_rockway, yay! |
| 22:12.32 | qop | makes a lot of sense to me |
| 22:13.03 | crashmag | smplayer doesnt download anything.. it eats whatever data feeds it. |
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| 22:13.40 | crashmag | its the system that downloads it.. (halts whatever process is feeding smplayer) and starts feeding once it has the file. |
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| 22:14.00 | qop | crashmag: yeah, in that case you can simply pipe it trough mplayer |
| 22:14.09 | qop | and there u hae your streaming |
| 22:14.21 | crashmag | my issue is that i dont want any "smart" handling.. i just want it to feed it the data with the correct path. |
| 22:14.33 | mxttie | crashmag: if you want to play vids from your nas, i would recommend using xbmc or some other mediacenter app which has built-in smb support |
| 22:14.48 | crashmag | it worked like this before. someone.. somewhere have decided to be smart.. however it ruins shit badly. |
| 22:14.48 | thiago_home | you have to change the app's .desktop file to tell KDE that the app supports that protocol |
| 22:14.55 | thiago_home | otherwise KDE will download it for you |
| 22:15.07 | thiago_home | that's to prevent passing URLs to KDE-specific services to non-KDE apps |
| 22:15.09 | qop | *thinks he's trollin |
| 22:15.16 | thiago_home | qop: doesn't sound like it |
| 22:15.20 | crashmag | thiago_home, this is simple use. modifying .desktop files to have it fucking stream files is insane. |
| 22:15.29 | qop | thiago_home: uhmk.. |
| 22:15.40 | mxttie | i'm sure thiago_home knows what he says though :) |
| 22:15.45 | mxttie | no troll |
| 22:15.58 | qop | mabe I just have little patience here :P |
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| 22:16.47 | crashmag | mxttie, already have xbmc running. but i also want to play stuff from my desktop if i so desire :) |
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| 22:16.59 | mxttie | thiago_home: there is no gui option for that? |
| 22:17.05 | mxttie | mxttie: ha, fair enough :) |
| 22:17.09 | thiago_home | mxttie: no |
| 22:17.16 | mxttie | crashmag: ha, fair enough :) |
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| 22:21.05 | mxttie | i think you can do that through edit file association, then in app pref order, select the app, edit -> application tab-> supported file types ..? |
| 22:21.24 | qop | anyway... you need kioslave for that and tey are not plugged into dolphin afaik. I think you can do: cat smb://whatever/file.mpg | mplayer |
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| 22:21.42 | qop | they * (stupid keyboard) |
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| 23:42.47 | sputnick | Hi there |
| 23:44.01 | sputnick | I have KDE 4.6.2 on archlinux. What the hell I need to do to have the known treeview back to konqueror or dolphin ? |
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| 23:47.40 | hussam | sputnick, in dolphin View -> panels -> folders |
| 23:47.40 | hussam | is that what you're looking for? |
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