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| 00:18.07 | toothpick | is there a way of optimizing kde to work faster? it seems like its much slower than gnome |
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| 00:23.38 | Lacrocivious | toothpick: That has not been my experience, across quite a range of extremely old to shiny new CPUs and systems. Perhaps System Settings/Style/Fine Tuning/Graphical effects may be adjusted, particularly if you are on a notebook |
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| 00:29.42 | toothpick | Lacrocivious: how do i get into that menu ? |
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| 00:32.08 | Lacrocivious | toothpick: Off the kicker menu, favorites/system settings |
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| 00:33.57 | Lacrocivious | toothpick: Or off the kicker menu, system/system settings |
| 00:34.00 | Lacrocivious | depends on distro |
| 00:34.25 | Lacrocivious | crossed wrench and screwdriver icon |
| 00:34.46 | toothpick | Lacrocivious: and then desktop effects? |
| 00:36.05 | Lacrocivious | No, /Style/Fine Tuning/Graphical effects |
| 00:36.22 | Lacrocivious | Though some of the desktop effects may be the cause of your perceived slowdown |
| 00:36.54 | Lacrocivious | If you have a modest GPU then some of the effects will take too much time, relatively speaking |
| 00:37.16 | toothpick | I don't see /Style/Fine Tuning/Graphical effects, in which category should it be? |
| 00:37.27 | Lacrocivious | For instance I like the translucency very much, but some older systems I have don't handle it well |
| 00:37.50 | Lacrocivious | Application Appearance |
| 00:38.00 | Lacrocivious | Sorry, I left that out. Then Style under that |
| 00:40.38 | toothpick | sorry, but the closest i got is "Desktop effects", i dont even have the application appearance category |
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| 00:40.48 | Lacrocivious | Dang. What distro? |
| 00:40.55 | toothpick | gentoo |
| 00:41.01 | Lacrocivious | What KDE version? |
| 00:41.14 | toothpick | i have "workspace appearance and behaviour" |
| 00:41.25 | toothpick | Lacrocivious: i forgot, where do I check? |
| 00:42.04 | Lacrocivious | In konsole enter: rpm -q kdebase |
| 00:42.14 | Lacrocivious | Oh wait, I don't think gentoo uses rpm |
| 00:42.22 | toothpick | yep it uses ebuild |
| 00:42.51 | toothpick | i use 4.6.1 |
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| 00:44.46 | Lacrocivious | Gentoo apparently used different arrangements from those I know. Application Appearance would include Style Colors Icons Fonts GTK+Appearance Emoticons |
| 00:45.41 | Lacrocivious | So wherever in there you can find a Style setting, you should find the Fine Tuning tab and the Graphical effects spinner |
| 00:46.16 | Lacrocivious | It's only an idea anyway; I thought you might adjust the settings to match your particular GPU/CPU comfort range |
| 00:46.21 | toothpick | Lacrocivious: found it :) |
| 00:47.10 | toothpick | Lacrocivious: so the most cpu saver is the first option? |
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| 00:49.31 | Lacrocivious | toothpick: I honestly don't know. The explanations are what they are. As I said, I thought you could try them and see. Under Desktop Effects you might also try disabling them all, then if that improves response time you can re-enable effects one at a time to see which one(s) slow you down |
| 00:49.55 | toothpick | Lacrocivious: very well, thanks for your tips :) |
| 00:50.45 | Lacrocivious | You're most welcome. In my experience GNOME and KDE are equally responsive on any system, with the possible exception of trying to engage too many effects in either desktop environment |
| 00:50.45 | kdepepo | the options in Fine Tuning probably dont help. Disable compositing if your video drivers suck (at least disable Blur effect), disable Nepomuk indexing if your HD trashes, and check top output what app eats cpu |
| 00:51.03 | Lacrocivious | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.35 | Lacrocivious | I've still not managed to grok wtf nepomuk and that whole 'semantic desktop' paradigm is good for, particularly on systems with many thousands of files |
| 00:51.47 | sgnls | @ lacro; i agree |
| 00:51.51 | sgnls | i am sure there might be |
| 00:51.53 | sgnls | but i can't see it |
| 00:51.58 | sgnls | it causes me lots of errors |
| 00:52.03 | sgnls | seem to do just fine with it disabled |
| 00:52.40 | Lacrocivious | Crusty old curmudgeon that I am, 'locate' works for me l0( |
| 00:52.47 | Lacrocivious | ;-) |
| 00:53.03 | sgnls | ha, me too! |
| 00:53.06 | sgnls | only t/mnt/nfs/zion/music/Dream Theater/Scenes from a Me |
| 00:53.08 | sgnls | ffs |
| 00:53.13 | sgnls | ignore that! |
| 00:53.19 | toothpick | kdepepo: what is nepomunk for? i always use the "find" command |
| 00:54.06 | Lacrocivious | I honestly don't know. I've tried to read about it, but my tiny mind cannot grasp how it is intended to be useful, let alone how it would be useful to me |
| 00:54.26 | Lacrocivious | It has made itself known to me primarily by its crash-prone behavior |
| 00:54.48 | Lacrocivious | I let it run for *six weeks* on a 9TB system and it must have crashed five times a day during that time |
| 00:55.03 | kdepepo | Nepomuk allows developers to store associations between objects in a central DB |
| 00:55.05 | Lacrocivious | Eventually it must have created some kind of database. I have yet to find anything that uses it |
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| 00:56.01 | Lacrocivious | kdepepo: You mean it is not intended for end users in the first place? |
| 00:56.25 | toothpick | that sucks |
| 00:58.06 | kdepepo | Nepomuk is relativly new, no apps use it to its potential yet. Some apps use it to tag or comment files |
| 00:58.27 | Lacrocivious | Gwenview bitches and moans about it not being active sometimes |
| 00:59.09 | Lacrocivious | Poor Gwenview, once a superb KDE3 app, and now neutered into some kind of half-assed compromise between The GIMP and Eye of Gnome |
| 01:00.19 | kdepepo | anyway, I need my bed. |
| 01:01.01 | toothpick | so what's the abbreviation of kde? |
| 01:01.27 | Lacrocivious | ... a strangled 'kuh' sound? |
| 01:01.43 | Lacrocivious | KDE *is* an abbeviation |
| 01:01.47 | toothpick | i mean |
| 01:01.48 | Lacrocivious | abbreviation even |
| 01:01.51 | toothpick | what does it stand for |
| 01:01.56 | Lacrocivious | K Desktop Environment |
| 01:02.06 | toothpick | and what's K ? |
| 01:02.11 | Lacrocivious | As far as I know the K never had anything but K |
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| 01:02.52 | toothpick | lol |
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| 01:03.07 | toothpick | then it should stand for KDE's Desktop Environment |
| 01:03.12 | toothpick | which would make it interesting |
| 01:03.13 | Lacrocivious | The name KDE was intended as a word play on the existing Common Desktop Environment, available for Unix systems. CDE was an X11-based user environment jointly developed by HP, IBM, and Sun, through the X/Open Company, with an interface and productivity tools based on the Motif graphical widget toolkit. It was supposed to be an intuitively easy-to-use desktop computer environment.[6] The K was originally suggested to stand |
| 01:03.14 | Lacrocivious | for "Kool", but it was quickly decided that the K should stand for nothing in particular â thus the KDE acronym expanded to "K Desktop Environment". |
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| 01:03.49 | toothpick | nice, thanks :) |
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| 01:09.18 | kamokow | I usually open my file browser via alt+f2 then typing '~' as the command. However, for some reason, rather than just opening my file browser, KDE has started asking me what program to run it in rather than just running it. Anyone know what might be causing this/a way to fix it? |
| 01:11.34 | Lacrocivious | kamokow: Check your System Settings/Default Applications for your file manager and make sure the one you like is selected |
| 01:12.20 | Lacrocivious | When I alt-f2-~ I get konqueror, my own preference |
| 01:13.50 | kamokow | Yea, its set to nautilus. |
| 01:14.23 | Lacrocivious | An odd choice, for a KDE user ;-) |
| 01:15.19 | kamokow | Yea, I was never able to get used to using dolphin or konqueror when I switched from Gnome... |
| 01:16.23 | Lacrocivious | Well, I've never been able to get used to the reduced functionality of dolphin compared to konqueror in the way I use it, so we're all slaves to our own prejudices and comfort zones ;-) |
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| 01:47.07 | kamokow | Well, doing a full restart versus just restarting my session seems to have fixed pretty much everything. My panel looks different now, but I'm just going to assume it was just a theme update or something before I break something else. |
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| 01:49.05 | Lacrocivious | kamokow: Is your menu all weird? Sometimes you can fix that by running, in terminal as your user, kbuildsycoca4 |
| 01:50.38 | kamokow | Lacrocivious: No, the way the window list shows up looks a bit different, and the panel isn't as translucent as usual, nothing major. |
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| 05:42.23 | Palestina_FREE | Salutate Romana Mare |
| 05:42.28 | Palestina_FREE | Ola penguinz! |
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| 05:42.58 | Palestina_FREE | gnem better than KDE. Better forever. |
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| 10:12.56 | DiGiTal | what is qt-copy? |
| 10:13.54 | pinotree | a copy of the qt sources (repository), for our convenience |
| 10:14.15 | DiGiTal | is possible compile kde with the native QT libraries? |
| 10:14.22 | DiGiTal | without qt-copy |
| 10:14.25 | pinotree | sure |
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| 10:15.09 | DiGiTal | do you know how can I do it using kdesrc-buildrc |
| 10:15.10 | DiGiTal | t?? |
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| 10:15.40 | DiGiTal | I have build and installed kde libs and bins |
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| 10:16.00 | DiGiTal | I have installed phonon |
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| 10:42.59 | jstein | digikam crashes here in debian testing. I open it and after it was started i close by clicking on the [x] then it raises a KDE Bugreport window. This is the output on console: http://paste.debian.net/112735/ what can i do to find more info about the crash? |
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| 11:20.46 | pinotree | BrunoPE[Away]: please disable the public away/back messages, thanks. |
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| 11:40.48 | gehmehgeh | Hello. I'd like to know through what kind of layer KDEs automounting is realized. dbus? hald? |
| 11:41.03 | db_db | udisks |
| 11:41.13 | db_db | over dbus? |
| 11:41.13 | gehmehgeh | And if you could point me to any kind of main switch to turn it off completely |
| 11:41.26 | gehmehgeh | (For Gnome etc., too) |
| 11:42.22 | db_db | System Settings->Removable Devices |
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| 11:43.23 | gehmehgeh | db_db: Didn't work. |
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| 11:44.16 | gehmehgeh | db_db: I'm using FreeBSD, it might be a bug. Do you use the same automounting daemon than Gnome? |
| 11:44.41 | gehmehgeh | *like |
| 11:45.54 | db_db | Im using Linux and only KDE, if some gnome daemon is running in the background than I have no idea, udisks is new, FreeBSD is probably using something other |
| 11:46.32 | gehmehgeh | hmmm, thanks for your help, |
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| 14:09.44 | sirbijan | hello all |
| 14:10.00 | sirbijan | I'm using KDE 4 and I don't know how to set a global SOCKS proxy for my system |
| 14:10.07 | sirbijan | In Gnome it was very easy |
| 14:10.21 | sirbijan | but here, I can't find anything in the System Settings |
| 14:10.29 | sirbijan | any idea where I can set it up please? |
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| 14:38.57 | tudalex | guys where can I find libattica repo? also how can I integrate libattica with qt creator on windows? |
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| 15:12.35 | swarmer_ab | where kde stores data about file types and icons? |
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| 15:14.09 | n8w | hey |
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| 15:14.52 | n8w | how do i get rid of the laggin while resizing a window in kde? |
| 15:15.25 | swarmer_ab | do you have radeon? |
| 15:15.38 | n8w | swarmer_ab: nope,nvidia |
| 15:15.46 | n8w | gf |
| 15:15.56 | swarmer_ab | don't know then |
| 15:16.17 | n8w | hmm k |
| 15:17.08 | n8w | its just so choppy |
| 15:17.20 | n8w | ive got no idea what could b the cause |
| 15:20.09 | swarmer_ab | what version of kde do you use? |
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| 15:40.32 | n8w | swarmer_ab: the latest one....4.6.1 |
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| 15:41.13 | n8w | in fact, most of the windows movin/resizin activities r choppy |
| 15:41.16 | n8w | dont get it |
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| 15:42.21 | swarmer_ab | for me, for example, windows are resized slowly when i use proprietary driver |
| 15:42.24 | swarmer_ab | ironically |
| 15:43.07 | Verge | What's so ironic about a properietary blob sucking hard |
| 15:44.07 | swarmer_ab | verge, are you sure that it is not X/KWin's bug? |
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| 15:44.42 | Verge | Considering the amount of problems with Kwin in general, no |
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| 15:58.15 | mtu | how do i read out a DataValue on the console? |
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| 15:58.51 | root_ | Is there gonna be iPod playlist support in the next AmaroK? |
| 15:59.54 | WaltzingAlong | trick question! |
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| 16:05.27 | Technicus | Hello, how can I completely reset the KDE color setting to default? System settings is not working. |
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| 16:10.31 | root_ | WaltzingAlong: huh? |
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| 16:14.45 | swarmer_ab | Optional Deps : libgpod: support for Apple iPod audio devices |
| 16:15.30 | satty | features of KDE4.6.1 |
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| 16:43.47 | Bogh | Hi |
| 16:43.51 | phh | because the disk's heads have to move a lot |
| 16:43.53 | Bogh | can anyone help me with a problem ? |
| 16:44.32 | DexterF | phh: why doesnt it gain spped again when I cancel one copy? |
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| 16:45.02 | DexterF | Bogh: not unless you tell us what the problem is |
| 16:45.16 | Bogh | I want to hide the titlebar and border on the new opened windows |
| 16:45.21 | phh | DexterF: could be that the other copy was buffered and is still finishing |
| 16:45.23 | Bogh | I use Kubuntu 10.10 |
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| 16:58.49 | yecril71pl | Why no attribution for KDE wallpapers? |
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| 17:32.21 | Posterdati | hi |
| 17:32.39 | Fanfare | Posterdati: Hi |
| 17:32.44 | Posterdati | how can I use kweather applet on debian squeeze? |
| 17:35.11 | Fanfare | Posterdati: u have probs using applets at all or just kweather? I don't know deb squeeze |
| 17:36.15 | cb400f | squeeze has kde4.4 and I think kweather is some prehistoric kde3 thingy |
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| 17:36.47 | cb400f | prolly just need to forget about it, and use one of the gazillion weather plasmoids... personally I prefer yawp |
| 17:38.43 | Posterdati | cb400f: it was only a matter of habits |
| 17:39.27 | Posterdati | cb400f: compiz of kwin? |
| 17:39.35 | Posterdati | cb400f: sorry compiz or kwin? |
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| 17:39.55 | cb400f | hm? kwin of course.. but that has nothing to do with weather plasmoids |
| 17:40.04 | Posterdati | cb400f: yes I know... |
| 17:40.34 | Posterdati | cb400f: I was looking among system-settings stuffs and I found kwin/compiz selection |
| 17:40.56 | Posterdati | cb400f: I was just wondering |
| 17:41.20 | Posterdati | Fanfare: other applets are ok, I think they're plasmoids now, not mere applets |
| 17:42.36 | Fanfare | Posterdati: so just look for any other weather applet there. as cb400f said. |
| 17:43.10 | Posterdati | Fanfare: yes, I'm using Weather Forecast now |
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| 17:44.44 | Posterdati | cb400f: I think that compiz is so much hardware resource consuming than other windows manager, no need for it I use pc for my job |
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| 17:46.21 | Posterdati | I remember a very buggy compiz on debian woody |
| 17:46.25 | cb400f | Posterdati: in kde4 kwin has effects too.. if you want |
| 17:46.58 | Verge | Posterdati: erm... Woody was released in 2002 |
| 17:47.00 | Posterdati | cb400f: yes I know, but they aren't so much useful |
| 17:47.05 | Verge | You're talking like ages old experiences |
| 17:47.19 | Posterdati | Verge: was woody or a newer |
| 17:47.27 | Posterdati | Verge: surely not lenny |
| 17:47.28 | Verge | Compiz is by far the smoothest eye candy WM there is |
| 17:47.34 | cb400f | some of them are.. like "present windows" ("expose") |
| 17:47.46 | Verge | I just don't like Compiz's behaviour |
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| 17:48.02 | Verge | Too much rubberband in the effects |
| 17:48.18 | cb400f | desktop grid too in some cases |
| 17:48.18 | Verge | Kwin is more responsive albeit being less polished |
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| 17:48.55 | Fanfare | and effects can be turned of, as i like it... :-) |
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| 17:49.24 | Verge | Compiz can also toggle effects and it even allows customizing them... |
| 17:49.51 | yecril71pl | What is the difference between kde-wallpapers and kdeartwork4/wallpapers? |
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| 17:50.16 | Verge | Ask your distro's package manager |
| 17:50.57 | yecril71pl | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeartwork/wallpapers/ |
| 17:51.11 | yecril71pl | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kde-wallpapers/ |
| 17:51.32 | yecril71pl | Actually, my distro does not publish the second one |
| 17:51.38 | yecril71pl | although both are in the trunk |
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| 17:52.29 | Verge | I think Arch's wallpaper package merges those two |
| 17:52.52 | yecril71pl | But why are they split in the trunk? |
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| 17:56.12 | daviddoria | I just installed kdenetwork which kopete came with. When I "Click to add an account" it asks me "Which messaging service do you want to connect to?" but the list is empty. Any thoughts? |
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| 17:58.20 | cb400f | "check your installation" |
| 17:58.30 | cb400f | is it gentoo or arch? ;-) |
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| 18:00.18 | goobar | amarok keeps stopping playing mp3s for no apparent reason, any ideas? |
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| 18:00.43 | Verge | Hope for a bugfix |
| 18:00.46 | Verge | It happens to me too |
| 18:00.50 | cb400f | goobar: try a different phonon backend |
| 18:00.53 | Verge | And it even happens on the same files every time |
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| 18:01.01 | caravel | goobar: codec issue ? does it always stop at the same time in each mp3 ? |
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| 18:01.29 | goobar | not sure it did it about 200 times before i bothered asking not that hard to just press play again, will try different phonon backend |
| 18:01.34 | caravel | 's better keep quiet |
| 18:01.36 | cb400f | still thinks xine is the most functional backend no matter what phonon devs say |
| 18:02.01 | Verge | yes |
| 18:02.13 | Verge | VLC has extra verbose debug output left on |
| 18:02.15 | magi11 | LMMS, so needs ALSA |
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| 18:03.04 | goobar | i'm gunna play the same last few mp3s see if it is the same mp3s, run it on console and see if there is any error messages, though if it's already ticketed not much point in adding anything |
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| 18:04.07 | cb400f | goobar: run 'kcmshell4 phonon' check see what backend is used |
| 18:04.27 | goobar | GStreamer |
| 18:04.51 | cb400f | thought so ;-) .. try using/installing the xine or vlc backend |
| 18:05.06 | Verge | VLC is slow for some reason |
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| 18:05.11 | goobar | xine is installed i'll try it both ways to see if it's the same mp3s and then see if xine fixes it |
| 18:05.21 | goobar | yeah VLC is unusable now for me for some reason have to use kaffeine |
| 18:05.25 | cb400f | I have issues with WMA based radio streams with vlc backend :-( |
| 18:05.41 | cb400f | goobar: xine != phonon-backend-xine |
| 18:06.01 | cb400f | or whatever your distro calls the packages |
| 18:06.11 | goobar | I'm in the Phonon - KDE Control Module, both GStreamer and Xine are installed but GStreamer is preferred |
| 18:06.19 | cb400f | ah, good |
| 18:07.10 | yecril71pl | http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=94439 |
| 18:07.29 | goobar | aww it shuffled my mp3s when i restarted so now i've no idea which one was making it stop |
| 18:07.32 | goobar | just switches to xine |
| 18:07.37 | hanibana | hi all |
| 18:07.40 | hanibana | where can I see detailed activiy log of kaffeine? is there any?! |
| 18:07.53 | joeb_ | hi all .. i removed some items from the trash can .. there a tool /software that can retrive the deleted items ? |
| 18:08.11 | cb400f | hanibana: kaffeine uses xine.. gues xine logs somewhere |
| 18:08.14 | hanibana | joeb_: see extundelete |
| 18:08.43 | hanibana | hanibana: I had this experience yesterday! but with no success ! |
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| 18:09.33 | goobar | seems a little snappier too |
| 18:10.22 | joeb_ | hanibana: im already on the filesytem .. according to this i need to ummount my hard drive |
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| 18:11.04 | joeb_ | hanibana: they where iso's |
| 18:11.37 | hanibana | joeb_: yes you should unmount. if it's your runnng root filesystem. reboot and use Live CDs. |
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| 18:13.23 | hanibana | xine-project.org is down! :-( |
| 18:13.32 | joeb_ | hanibana: so boot into a live cd .. try to run the extundelete command from there and will it let me put it back where it was .. it was in my ~/Downloads folder |
| 18:13.49 | goobar | who cares so long as it works doesn't need to get any better lol |
| 18:14.55 | goobar | noticed a lot of newer DVDs don't play properly anymore and suspects a trick that fools libdvdcss, anyone else get that? |
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| 18:15.40 | goobar | btw libdvdcss is perfectly legal in my contry |
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| 18:16.30 | hanibana | joeb_: It was like: extundelete /dev/sda1 --restore-file home/yourusername/Downloads ; see http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:16.53 | goobar | kind of ironic, i buy a DVD then have to download the same thing from usenet to watch it |
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| 18:17.34 | hanibana | you should remove first "slash". I mean home... not /home. |
| 18:19.07 | joeb_ | yea i know .. so hanibana im in my live cd .. so go to a term an do for exmpale extundelete /dev/sda --restore-file /home/joeb/Downlods ; ? |
| 18:19.26 | joeb_ | hanibana, im looking at documentation and it wants me to resotore whole parition |
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| 18:22.27 | hanibana | joeb_: actually I gave up at the first steps, sorry... Read through its docs, hope to recover all your files. |
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| 19:28.29 | JoeSomebody | hello again, any of you guys familiar with a starting up on the wrong desktop problem using multiple desktops / different widgets in kde 4.6.1? i googled off and on for days on this one, forums say unsolved, or a bug |
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| 19:29.09 | JoeSomebody | just about ready to offer cash :) |
| 19:31.27 | JoeSomebody | if it IS fixable, i will pass it on to my distro guys as well as a forum post for others |
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| 20:15.12 | hussam | anyone knows any Qt/kde web browsers other than arora and rekonq? arora isn't maintained and rekonq simply looks silly |
| 20:15.27 | hussam | konqueror is cool but it seems laggy here |
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| 20:17.57 | Lanz | For those running 4.6, is there a way to make file transfer notifications give an estimated time remaining or percentage completed, as per 4.5? http://tinypic.com/r/1qlx1u/7 |
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| 20:18.19 | Lanz | I see a (+) to the left of the progress bar when downloading from a website, but not during transfers to externals |
| 20:18.36 | Lanz | I'm using Konqueror for this |
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| 20:29.29 | JoeSomebody | is the doctor in ? my desktop 's sick |
| 20:30.14 | JoeSomebody | any of you guys familiar with a starting up on the wrong desktop problem using multiple desktops / different widgets in kde 4.6.1? i googled off and on for days on this one, forums indicate it may be unsolved/bug |
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| 20:30.49 | torl | is there any site where i can see the evolution of KDE,from the first version to the current one? |
| 20:31.38 | JoeSomebody | not on http://www.kde.org anywhere? |
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| 20:32.36 | JoeSomebody | it would be a shame to reinstall my os and then have this again |
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| 20:36.00 | hussam | torl, there used to be one in 2005 in the kde3 era. it showed screenshots from 1.x to 3.x |
| 20:36.09 | hussam | but I can't find it |
| 20:37.49 | hussam | but look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Desktop_Environment_2 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Desktop_Environment_3 |
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| 20:40.36 | JoeSomebody | hussam, any idea? |
| 20:41.03 | laziac | anyone know how to get rid of the hibernate button in kickoff? (4.6.1, arch) |
| 20:41.27 | JoeSomebody | do you know if reinstalling my os will fix it? |
| 20:41.41 | hussam | what was the problem? |
| 20:42.10 | JoeSomebody | i have even wiped out the plasma folder to renew the desktops |
| 20:42.38 | JoeSomebody | starting up on the wrong desktop problem using multiple desktops / different widgets in kde 4.6.1, i want to be on desktop1 of course |
| 20:42.43 | JoeSomebody | it starts on 3 |
| 20:43.08 | JoeSomebody | my settings are correct in pclinuxos guis |
| 20:43.26 | hussam | no, don't reinstall. this looks like a user setting. |
| 20:43.31 | hussam | not system wide |
| 20:43.38 | icewind | JoeSomebody: did you only remove the ~/.kde/share/plasmastuff or also the ~/.kde/confing/plasmastuff |
| 20:43.45 | JoeSomebody | others have this problem, and the pclinuxos guys ahve not solved it |
| 20:44.32 | JoeSomebody | whatever i was advised to do it gone, sorry, it wiped everything to do with my desktops |
| 20:44.56 | JoeSomebody | arrrrg man i can t type anymore today |
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| 20:45.23 | JoeSomebody | i would probably even paypal someone at this point |
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| 20:45.35 | JoeSomebody | its the only reason i cant do a backup |
| 20:46.02 | JoeSomebody | its the only reason i cant do a PERFECT backup |
| 20:46.28 | plerohero | hello, i want to execute a custom command from system notification %s ais the only argument? Are there any other arguments? Do they differ from app to app? |
| 20:46.41 | hussam | hehe, sorry. I'm not really a kde expert but it's obvious this is user config problem. you don't need to reinstall your distribution. you never need to do that under linix |
| 20:46.42 | hussam | linux |
| 20:47.26 | JoeSomebody | well there is this windows networks shares issue |
| 20:47.57 | JoeSomebody | 2 things wrong i cant fix, not in days and days of googling anyways |
| 20:47.58 | hussam | connecting to shares or reading shares? |
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| 20:48.09 | warcry_dz | Hello every1 |
| 20:48.24 | warcry_dz | I have an annoying program with kde |
| 20:48.31 | warcry_dz | yesterday |
| 20:48.43 | warcry_dz | I exec this line |
| 20:48.50 | JoeSomebody | shares work fine, buit i have to do a mount -a in rc.local, and then manually umount before reboot |
| 20:48.51 | warcry_dz | apt-get install kde |
| 20:48.58 | JoeSomebody | so that sucks bad |
| 20:49.16 | warcry_dz | today whatever I do with apt-get is not working |
| 20:49.18 | plerohero | anyone? |
| 20:49.41 | warcry_dz | tell s me an error about kdebase workspace |
| 20:49.45 | warcry_dz | help plz |
| 20:49.47 | JoeSomebody | there MUST BE a setting somewhere where this is set to desktop 3? if you guys don't know then who would? , |
| 20:49.57 | JoeSomebody | is discouraged |
| 20:50.27 | icewind | JoeSomebody: try removing kwin's config |
| 20:50.59 | JoeSomebody | well , one of the problems is my knowledge level |
| 20:51.15 | hussam | JoeSomebody, the shares thing is the correct behavior. |
| 20:51.20 | icewind | ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc |
| 20:51.54 | JoeSomebody | removing as in deleteing files? |
| 20:52.02 | icewind | or moving them |
| 20:53.27 | JoeSomebody | so then i can just rename kwinrc |
| 20:53.28 | JoeSomebody | ? |
| 20:53.37 | icewind | should work |
| 20:53.38 | hussam | joesomebody, alternatively you can create entries in fstab if it is a permanent share |
| 20:54.15 | JoeSomebody | my fstab has been edited 25 times |
| 20:54.35 | icewind | warcry_dz: if it's your package manager giving the error it's probably best to ask in your distro channel |
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| 20:54.47 | JoeSomebody | icewind, gonna reboot and try that one |
| 20:55.05 | warcry_dz | you mean like backtrack channel? |
| 20:55.31 | icewind | if that's your distro |
| 20:55.40 | JoeSomebody | hussam, i actually know what is wrong now, just not how to fix it |
| 20:55.45 | JoeSomebody | back soon |
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| 20:56.35 | hussam | joesomebody something like //hostname/sharedfolder /media/sharedfolder cifs username=username,password=password 0 0 |
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| 20:57.21 | hussam | but keep in mind fstab is world readable so everyone who logs into your linux machin will know your username/password on the windows machine |
| 20:57.40 | icewind | hussam: he just left to reboot |
| 20:57.45 | hussam | ah |
| 20:58.01 | hussam | sorry, keeping an eye on my daughter while typing |
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| 21:11.16 | JoeSomebody | icewind, you are THE man ! |
| 21:11.30 | JoeSomebody | it worked, i shall pass it on |
| 21:11.32 | icewind | :) |
| 21:11.38 | icewind | good to hear |
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| 21:19.58 | JoeSomebody | now to try a network tweak, bbl |
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| 21:28.05 | JoeSomebody | icewind, you don't mind being credited with solving this in a forum post, do you? :) |
| 21:28.22 | icewind | not at all |
| 21:28.28 | JoeSomebody | ok |
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| 21:41.17 | ginx | KDE hurrah! |
| 21:42.14 | tehoirc | What files do I have to delete to reset the font settings? I'm curretnly stuck with so large font, that the font KCM doesn't even work... :/ |
| 21:42.33 | ginx | the font being used for... everything? |
| 21:42.43 | tehoirc | well all the qt apps |
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| 21:47.04 | ginx | tehoirc: kcontrol's no help? |
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| 21:48.42 | tehoirc | ginx: isn't kcontrol deperecated and replaced by system settings, which in my case is currentöy broken due the too large font |
| 21:48.55 | tehoirc | ..well the font selection box is. |
| 21:50.03 | tehoirc | I dleted couple of files, .derc and .conf/kde.rog/"nameIforg" - both had something to do with the fonts, however even after that and logout/reboot the font doesnt change |
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| 21:59.12 | tehoirc | well, it magically started to work -- thanks anyway :p |
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| 22:10.28 | niteria | can I have one window (IM's buddy list) that I cannot move and other windows cannot cover? |
| 22:10.44 | niteria | but not 'stay on top' |
| 22:11.35 | niteria | more like when I maximize other app it behaves if screen was X pixels thinner |
| 22:16.17 | ginx | niteria: there's an app MaxTo that's decent for that |
| 22:16.29 | ginx | http://maxto.net/ |
| 22:17.08 | ginx | niteria: last free version before it become trialware: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22MaxToSetup-2009-3-1.exe%22 |
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| 22:17.19 | ginx | oh dude, this isn't ##windows at all |
| 22:17.30 | ginx | niteria: luckily I know how to do it with X, too =P |
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| 22:21.45 | ginx | niteria: http://repetae.net/computer/whaw/ I think is what I was thinking of |
| 22:21.47 | niteria | question was about kde |
| 22:21.58 | ginx | right, but KDE uses X =D |
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| 22:27.31 | eamon | wc |
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| 22:33.07 | setog3 | hi, do you know a way to tell kdm to don't ask for password when I am at home (near a specific wifi access) ? |
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| 22:34.08 | ginx | setog3: you'd probably have to edit its script/s |
| 22:34.27 | ginx | a lot |
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| 22:35.51 | niteria | it looks like whaw can't handle multiple screens |
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| 22:47.50 | niteria | maximimumize is what I'm looking for http://dev.compiz.org/~kristian/2007/12/18/the-maximumize-plugin/ |
| 22:47.55 | niteria | but for kde |
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| 22:50.55 | ginx | niteria: you can use compiz with KDE of course, you just lose kwin features |
| 22:51.16 | ginx | I wonder if kwin does this, though |
| 22:51.18 | ginx | Xfwm does |
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| 23:16.00 | niteria | can I somehow get geometry of all visible windows? |
| 23:16.09 | niteria | from commandline? |
| 23:16.24 | pinotree | use wmctrl |
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| 23:18.18 | niteria | is there a tool that returns window id when I click it? |
| 23:18.28 | niteria | like xkill |
| 23:18.32 | Auzy | G'day, can I ask perhaps an obvious question... Is there any reason why an easy means of internet connection sharing/NAT hasn't been implemented in Knetworkmanager (or even bridge mode)? |
| 23:18.33 | niteria | but without killing |
| 23:18.45 | pinotree | xprop |
| 23:18.59 | Auzy | Just wondering, investigating if it's something I might perhaps investigate adding |
| 23:19.15 | spidermario | xwininfo |
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| 23:25.50 | Auzy | ? |
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| 23:49.08 | niteria | how to run `ls` in haskell and get output? |
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| 23:55.06 | comawhite | what's that ident.ca programme called? chocaq? |
| 23:55.10 | comawhite | or something like that |
| 23:55.27 | pumphaus | choqok |
| 23:56.02 | comawhite | pumphaus, thank you |
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