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00:00.48cordellyou dont have to move the taskbar, just move the notification widget to a different place on the taskbar, or add it to the desktop
00:02.36perrito666cordell: ok, that will do for the moment, thank you :)
00:02.51cordellnp perrito666
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00:20.23jordan__how do i update to kde 4.6.1? i have opensuse 11.4
00:20.36jordan__and kde 4.60
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00:20.43jordan__4.6.0*
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00:21.23neverendingojordan__: #opensuse
00:21.48jordan__k
00:21.58jordan__the one click does work
00:22.09jordan__then i rty adding a kde rep that didnt work
00:22.21jordan__doesnt
00:22.23jordan__k
00:22.25jordan__thanks
00:23.07likewhoathat was random
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00:28.35Daskreechneverendingo: I take it you know them?
00:28.54neverendingoDaskreech: know who?
00:29.23neverendingooh, not really :)
00:29.28Daskreechneverendingo: never mind I missed them saying they have opensuse. Was wondering how you got that info
00:29.28neverendingojust a wild guess
00:30.42neverendingobut 11.4 and 4.6.1 seems to be a hot topic these days... :P
00:31.41Daskreechha ha :)
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01:59.51klikklakhi all, bluedevil does not find my adapter.  http://dpaste.org/pDAt/ has the hcitool output and messages.log when I connect the adapter.  it was confirmed working in a blog post.  any ideas?
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03:39.04saintdevHi, the default panel clock doesn't seem to be displaying holidays any longer, and won't save the setting when i change it. I'm using 4.6.1.
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06:22.12BountyXI have a panel set to auto hide and it functions as "always on top" is there a fix for this?
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09:49.53lesshaste_what do I need to install to get the KDE help center?
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09:50.44cb400fask your distro
09:51.14lesshaste_hmm
09:51.17lesshaste_well it is ubuntu
09:51.24lesshaste_and I am apparently missing the Application manuals
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09:57.37cb400fhow did you install it? you installed 'kubuntu-desktop' ?
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10:21.21CreapHi, is there any roadmap for when the new PIM will be released as stable? Is it in KDE 4.7?
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10:22.29VergeTime tables and roadmaps are subject to change
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10:25.40Creapok, yes.. I used to run Factory for a while,  and didn't really have any major problems with PIM, but other crashes and such made me switch back to stable, and I'm missing PIM ;(
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12:52.57egnshello, is it possible to disable the "X"s that the <input> elements have in Konqueror?
12:53.10thiagono
12:53.13thiagoit's a style setting
12:53.53egnsthey look really bad and you probably already noticed it...
12:54.10egnshttp://box.jisko.net/i/b5c667.png
12:54.39thiagono, I hadn't
12:54.43thiagothey don't look like that here
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12:55.58MystKidhello guys how can i put files into ipod with dolphin. in the music directory on my ipod i see a bunch of numbered empty folders
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12:56.25thiagoMystKid: use amarok
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13:07.35egnsthiago: http://77.225.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es/interoute/
13:07.52thiagowhat's that?
13:08.12egnsto reproduce it, because you said you could not
13:09.06thiagostill can't reproduce
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13:18.34theFR34KKDE 4.5.5 | I have setup an openchange profile and it works via command line, how can i connect KMail/KOrganizer to it? I have looked online for a guide and am coming up empty
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13:21.05MystKidonly amarok can do tht?
13:21.18MystKidi have only vlc and audacious installed
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13:25.00MystKidthiago:
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13:25.46thiagoMystKid: yes
13:25.52thiagoMystKid: iPod is not a generic mass storage
13:26.05thiagoMystKid: it has its own crappy file format that requires a specialised library to access
13:26.09MystKidthiago: i dont see any option in the vlc interface
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13:26.20thiagonothing I can do about that
13:26.41MystKidi see MTP devices Veido capture,audio capture and discs
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13:31.34thomasj_Well, there's no ipod option in VLC, but in Amarok ;)
13:32.04thomasj_Reminds me to try out if it works now with generation 4
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14:07.56foxhound31hi got kde 4 for windows after install i still have an xp desktop not kde
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14:08.13foxhound31is it supposed to be like that?
14:08.21foxhound31confusing
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14:08.44cb400fI think it is.. on windows it's all about the apps
14:08.56cb400fif you want a quality desktop use linux :-)
14:09.01foxhound31ah I see they arent all that stable
14:09.02cb400fbut you should ask in #kde-windows
14:09.20foxhound31oh right sorry didnt know about that channel
14:09.27foxhound31would of gone straight there
14:09.31cb400fwell.. that's how it is when you're running an alternative fringe platform ;-)
14:09.51foxhound31ok thanks for help cya
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14:23.00Ongacskamagyar tesokam Hozsanna neked dicsoseges testverem!
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14:42.30aliveriushow can i monitor the signal strength of my wifi?
14:42.38aliveriusi am not using networkmanager
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14:43.03Ongacskaaliverius brotha use xterm:D
14:43.42aliveriusother than that? we are talking gui in here!
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14:44.57Ongacskaplease check it: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html
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14:46.48aliveriusbut i know iwconfig
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14:49.36Ongacskagoogle howto monitoring wifi signal strength...
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15:01.11freinhardrekonq uses QtWebkit right?
15:02.03cb400fthink it uses kwebkitpart.. which prolly uses qtwebkit
15:02.15cb400fbetter ask in #kde-devel for a better answer
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15:05.03Ongacskamagyar tesókám mondom néköd Hozsanna néked dicsőséges tesvérkém!
15:05.19OngacskaOngavezirke, Allah kegyeltje köszönt téged!
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15:26.38thomasjaliverius, there's a plasmoid on kde-look.org IIRC
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15:54.43The_UserHi Desdenova_ :D
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15:54.54Desdenova_The_User: hello :P
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15:58.16Desdenova_Well im using opensuse 11.4 and have it switched to netbook interface. I don't know if you are familiar with it but it organizes my desktop in pages (which I think are like predefined activities). On my kubuntu (4.4 or 4.5 kde, i cant remember) i could rename those activities
15:58.27Desdenova_now i cant find that option anywhere
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16:24.54brookewhy do added desktop icons all stack up at upper left of screen? (kde 4.6)
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16:30.10brookewhy do added desktop icons all stack up at upper left of screen? (PCLinuxOS 2010.7 kde 4.6)
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16:31.26cb400fprolly cuz noone tests the folderview desktop activity which pclos uses by default
16:32.10cb400fwhat are these icons? widgets? .. or stuff in your ~/Desktop/
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16:35.15brookehaving prob's getting wifi working in NEW distro's of kubuntu, mandriva, opensuse, fedora and pclos.  older versions connect...all kde's; gnome connects.
16:36.14cb400fwell.. if the same base system works with gnome and not kde, then your problem has to be with the kde networkmanager applet
16:36.24cb400fpretty much
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16:36.35cb400fso maybe just use nm-applet in kde
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16:37.24cb400fif you're comparing gnome vs. kde running on different base systems... well.. then you're wasting time
16:37.37cb400fand in that case it might be driver issues
16:38.48brookenot comparing systems; just wonderingwhy gnome connects, kde doesn't.
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16:39.46cb400fthe hardware support has nothing to do with kde.. the only part of the network stack that is kde related is the networkmanager applet, or the wicd applet.. or whatever you use on your distro
16:39.54brookeI'm bettin on network manager
16:40.08cb400fthere can be tons of reasons all over the stack
16:40.51cb400fso you should ask the distro you're currently running what needs to be done to make things work with your wlan card, and your wlan network setup
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16:42.13brookejust thought I'd check with the #kde group, since several other kde distro's don't connect either
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16:44.16brooke1 desktop, 4 different laptops, so I don't really think it's my card, since 3 lap's have diff cards.
16:44.38cb400fwell.. different distros need different hacks to install firmware, drivers, different kernel versions
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16:45.12cb400fyou have to limit your possible causes for errors
16:45.52cb400fit's quite possible it's a problem with pnm/knm.. but it might be something entirely different.
16:46.24cb400fso pick a distro, and troubleshoot the issue properly
16:48.07brookeevery distro has been d/l'ed by direct link, torrents.  Again, only the LATEST kde distros don't connect
16:49.38brookeso I thought it would/could be a kde problem.  md5's all correct, mediachk says ok.
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16:56.55Desdenova_on kde 4.6 netbook where can i find the location of the config files for the pages (the search and launch and the newspaper activity)
16:57.59VergeDesdenova_: All configuration files are in ~/.kde4/share/config
16:58.09Verge".kde4" might be .kde or something else also
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16:58.20Desdenova_Verge: thank you alot
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16:59.13resixiankdewallet/kmail seems broekn here,when start kmail i get a message 'There have been repeated failed attempts to gain access to a wallet. An application may be misbehaving' then kmail asks for passwords to all my accounts
16:59.16aseigokde4-config --localprefix <-- will tell all
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17:03.00hussamhi, when I log into kde and start kmail, I get a akonadi server error. something about duplicated agent identifier
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17:03.11hussamthen when I close the error window, kmail closes
17:03.19hussamI restart kmail and it works fine.
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17:03.40hussambut I have to go through this every time I log into kde
17:04.25hussam~/.local/share/akonadi/akonadi_control.error says:
17:04.37hussama lot of lines similar to:
17:04.39hussamvoid AgentManager::readPluginInfos(const QDir&) Duplicated agent identifier "akonadi_ical_resource" from file "/usr/share/akonadi/agents/icalresource.desktop"
17:05.09hussamkde 4.6.1
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17:05.30hussamakonadi 1.5.1
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17:12.48hussamany ideas?
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17:16.24freinhardhussam: broken installation? check "grep akonadi_ical_resource /usr/share/akonadi/agents/ -R"
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17:17.01hussamit outputs the following:
17:17.17hussam<PROTECTED>
17:17.59freinhardoh, actually i got the same emssages in my error log
17:18.19freinhardhmm didn't notice anything broken in kontact anyways
17:18.27freinhardyou could check bugs.kde.org
17:18.38hussamI'm doing that now
17:19.34hussamok, I found https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267683#c24
17:20.22freinhardhussam: which distribution are you using?
17:20.28hussamarchlinux
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17:20.46freinhardhussam: then i guess it's easy for you to check the patch?
17:21.09hussamyes :) I will try the patch now
17:21.34freinhardyay, finally someone to confirm it ;)
17:21.40resixianwhat patch?
17:22.24freinhardresixian: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/akonadi/repository/revisions/897933ccc6557441f215b8a511818284705dd02b
17:22.49resixianim using arch but have no such error
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17:23.41hussamI've been using kde since the 2nd of this month. a lot has changed since 2005
17:24.15freinhardindeed, but i'm still waiting for some ground breaking kde-pim release ;)
17:24.49resixianhussam: ive recenly (2months) been using kde too (again)
17:25.07hussamcool :)
17:25.23resixianwell i think i'm going to remove it all again...
17:26.13freinhardresixian: hmm yes, pretty mouch everything works, no place to fiddle round anymore, thats no fun ;)
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17:26.22resixiannothing much works well here
17:27.20resixiani get these sporadic issues with kmail, samba shares, and multi-head has been a nightmare
17:27.21hussamI used gnome since 2006, reported so many bugs, made friends with some developers like brasero developer. but gnome 3.0 made me cry so I'm trying KDE now.
17:28.04resixiani had been using xfce a long time, then awesome wm for > 2years.
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17:28.30hussamI used xfce back in 3.x days
17:28.44resixianthought i'd try the DE thing again to see if life was easier
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17:30.03hussamI think gnome3 would have rocked had they just ported everything to gtk3/gsettings and stopped at that. instead they reinvented the wheel.
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17:30.59resixianive not seen gnome3
17:31.15resixiani thik the last gnome i used was 2.2 or so?
17:31.28hussamthey removed the UI to change fonts, desktop themes, etc..
17:31.37resixianalthough i have some netbooks with ubuntu10.10 and UNR
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17:32.14hussamthis is what it will look like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GNOME_Shell.png
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17:32.41hussamno taskbar. you can't minimize applications
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17:33.21hussamI can do the simple human being things under kde like minimize windows, change fonts, etc..
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17:42.06hussamno more duplicate agent identifiers error
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17:43.09resixianthat looks similar to ubuntu's 'unity' interface (the one for netbooks
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17:43.53hussamthe interface is fine. I just don't appreciate the you can't change desktop themes of font sizes because we know better than you.
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17:44.24resixianyes, that is sth i hear quite often about gnome (lack of choice)
17:44.37hussamyou can do that under gnome2.
17:45.19resixianyes but even between gnome 2.x releases there were lost (or harder to find) configuration options
17:45.28hussamyes
17:46.00resixiankde seems pretty tweakable, but its very sloow here and too many broken pieces
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17:46.30hussamyes, very slow here too. I'm trying to adjust to that. gnome 2.32 was very speedy
17:47.32resixianwell i'm sure it will neer be as speedy as awesome, but kde tries to do a lot more
17:47.49hussamyes, a lot more running in the background
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17:49.04resixianit also does some really annoying stuff, like copying smb files before opening and such
17:49.35Proshotanybody using kfilebox
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17:52.40tampsCan some1 help me whit ktorrent regexp, I dont underestand whit this.
17:52.42tamps<PROTECTED>
17:52.54tampsI have made something like this "^2011(?!.*(COIN_INT|iTS_INT|GRAVEWISH|r35|TALiON|EDML|iTS|D2H))"
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17:53.08tampscan some1 help me to fix this, do download 2011 releases but not thows groups :/
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18:07.56deifany1 knows where I can download the Oxygen icons in svg? (most current version) are they on git, svn...?
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18:08.26icewindI think most artwork is still on svn
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18:08.44icewindbecause the git repo would be uge to download with all the history
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18:11.53hussamvirtuoso-t is using over 108MB memory :/
18:12.09icewindnothing weird with that
18:12.23icewindit uses up to1GB here, you can configure it
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18:12.50icewindthe more memory it can use, the better the preformace for a lot of things
18:13.01hussamok
18:13.32icewindsystem settings->desktop search->advanced settings
18:13.33hussamI just have only 1GB of memory and it's starting to use over 200MB of Swap
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18:16.29hussammy package manager says it is used installed as a dependency of soprano. it also says akonadi  and kdelibs require soprano. can they build without it?
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18:18.02icewindat least kdelibs can be build without soprano, but disabeling  nepomuk in system settings is easier
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18:19.30bash`hi all
18:19.38icewindhey
18:20.01bash`can I set the previewer plasmoid to display the preview only in its activity?
18:20.42icewinddesktop plasmoids are activity dependant, in the toolbar they are global afaik
18:20.54bash`no I mean: if I preview a file, the previewer is displayed in every activities, is this a bug? or is indented to work in that way?
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18:21.14icewinddon't know
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19:03.10yecril71plThe default device for audiocd is ignored
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19:03.28yecril71plset the default device to /dev/scd1
19:03.53yecril71plHowever, audio:/?device=/dev/scd1 works, audio:/ does not
19:04.16hussamon linux? you sure it's not sdc1?
19:06.56yecril71plwhat is /dev/sdc1?
19:07.09yecril71plLooks like a SCSI disk 3.
19:07.36yecril71pldoes not want to play music from SCSI disk 3
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19:56.02southpaw_andyso get this!
19:56.08southpaw_andythe time of the server itself was off!
19:56.13southpaw_andyby like 50 minutes
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20:24.37neverendingo_southpaw_andy: get what, why and how
20:24.39vonWolandI am having a problem with konqueror displaying garbled pages and no images in khtml mode.  Anyone have any ideas where I should start fixing this?
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20:28.10yecril71plvonWoland: are the pages correct?
20:29.44vonWolandyecril71pl:  what do you mean "correct"?  The right URL is loaded
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20:30.30vonWolandI see all the text, but no images,
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20:42.19yecril71plvonWoland: in Konqueror introduction, goto Specification, then HTML
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20:44.19vonWolandyecril71pl:  Is this what you were looking for: "General
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20:44.48Sho_vonWoland: please use http://paste.kde.org/ in the future
20:45.33yecril71plvonWoland: HTML is above that
20:45.33vonWolandSorry about that.  Am new to KVirc as well :)
20:45.36fhd_Hi. The instructions on getting/building KDE are apparently not up to date on TechBase due to the SVN -> Git move right now.
20:45.53fhd_How would I best go about working on Plasma widgets?
20:46.09vonWolandDOM (Level 1, partially Level 2) based HTML 4.01
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20:46.27yecril71plvonWoland: follow to HTML
20:46.31EugenAhow can I change resolution in kde4.6?
20:46.47Sho_vonWoland: Konversation would have warned you about a multi-line paste
20:47.12vonWolandthat just takes me to the HTML 4.01 spec at w3.org
20:47.15EugenAif i try to do it using control center, i'm getting problems.. i want to try to change it directly in config file
20:47.40yecril71plvonWoland: this is what I mean by "correct".
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20:48.20vonWolandah, thanks, so in theory, they are?
20:48.44yecril71plvonWoland: have them checked
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20:50.46vonWolandyecril71pl:  I see.  The line for DOM has "built-in" to the side of it, as does the line for CSS.  But there is nothing opposite khtml.  I built kde from source (FreeBSD ports) could it be that it did not build correctly?
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20:53.34yecril71plvonWoland: every action you take can fail and can deceive you about its status.
20:53.43yecril71plIncluding compiling KDE.
20:54.28vonWolandor trying to get help on IRC.  But thank you for trying
20:54.29yecril71plHowever, DOM and HTML are built into KHTML, if that is what you are asking about.
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21:15.57AshlebedeIs there any way to have the Taskbar only show icons ?
21:16.03AshlebedeOr should I go to #plasma ?... D:
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21:19.15Ashlebede... I really should google stuff more often
21:19.17AxanonAshlebede: you probably want to use the smooth tasks plasmoid
21:19.27Axanonbut yeah, google is nice ;)
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