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| 00:27.01 | CMoH | hey. after i've mistakenly clicked in konqueror "never for this site" on the password remembering question, where can i unset that option? (assuming it's been saved somewhere) |
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| 00:41.19 | rplnt | CMoH: I'd look into ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/* but that's just a guess. |
| 00:41.40 | CMoH | ah, thought there's a GUI thingie for this list |
| 00:42.05 | rplnt | CMoH: might be. I don't use konqueror at all so I don't know. |
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| 00:43.27 | cordell | konqueror in kde 4.6 rocks with webkit |
| 00:43.34 | cordell | super fast |
| 00:44.45 | CMoH | :) |
| 00:44.52 | CMoH | too bad the pim is not complete |
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| 00:45.43 | rplnt | CMoH: I just tried to log in somewhere and konqueror didn't ask me. Isn't it extension? try to find it there (I didn't). Extensions have configurations. |
| 00:46.02 | CMoH | hmmm... good question - i'll look |
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| 00:47.12 | rplnt | And konqueror is yet another application that ignores my UI settings :/ |
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| 00:51.24 | CMoH | meh, nothing... |
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| 02:08.52 | dalop | how to disable the logout and locksession buttons from the k Menu? |
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| 02:09.53 | Ozzzy | remove them |
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| 02:11.14 | dalop | how to remove them? |
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| 02:12.08 | dalop | ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc ? |
| 02:20.57 | dalop | when i modify ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc and restart kde service it over-writes ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc back to its orignial |
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| 02:22.23 | dalop | oh i see it just alphabeticaly sorts it |
| 02:22.44 | dalop | but the entry logout_session=false is there but kde sessions still show this in the k-menu |
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| 02:25.11 | gameaccount | Hi. I am using Kde SC 4.6 and I am searching for solidshell. My system seem not to have it. |
| 02:29.58 | Jucato_ | dalop: you might want to research about "kiosk" and "kiosktool". but kicker is part of KDE 3, a very old and unsupported version |
| 02:30.49 | Jucato_ | gameaccount: what is solidshell? I don't think it's something KDE ships with |
| 02:32.12 | gameaccount | afaik solidshell is a terminal program to access solid |
| 02:32.40 | Jucato_ | hm .. |
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| 02:35.38 | Jucato_ | can't seem to find anything about it sorry |
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| 02:36.57 | gameaccount | Jucato_: no problem, when you google "solidshell kde" you find some mentions of it. It is also mentioned at ubuntuusers |
| 02:38.48 | Jucato_ | gameaccount: hm ... the only reference I get from the source code is that the executable is called "solid-network" |
| 02:40.25 | gameaccount | hm, okay |
| 02:40.40 | gameaccount | maybe I ask later. Maybe it got dropped from KDE |
| 02:41.11 | gameaccount | thx, bye |
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| 02:55.59 | dalop | is there anyway to make vnc service re-start the session so if user logs back into kde after "logging out" they get a new session started without having to SSH in? |
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| 03:14.38 | dalop | kiosk seems to be too limiting, i just want to remove this "log out" button not entirely disable users form doing it with hotkey or other way |
| 03:14.50 | dalop | just not having the button there will save alot of headaches for me |
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| 03:19.44 | dalop | anyone know where the executable that launches the "log out" dialog that has "end current session" button? i was thinking to just delete this executable |
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| 05:06.04 | Xinux | How would I add a keyboard shortcut to minimize the current window in kde 4.6? |
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| 06:09.14 | boombatower | running 4.6 on suse 11.4 which now uses pulseaudio again...I'm liking things so far, but how can I change it so that it doesn't mute certain channels...like when I have a skype call running? there seems to be priority or some such |
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| 06:26.30 | valorie | boombatower: try pavucontrol |
| 06:26.38 | valorie | if kmix is failing |
| 06:27.01 | valorie | or veromix |
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| 06:27.06 | boombatower | valorie: kmix is doing fine, but whenever i start a skype call it mutes amarok...i can unmute in kmix |
| 06:27.27 | valorie | hmmm, that might be hardcoded in skype |
| 06:27.31 | valorie | hard to say |
| 06:27.39 | boombatower | valorie: never has happened before pulseaudio |
| 06:27.56 | boombatower | doubtful it has pulseaudio integration |
| 06:28.01 | boombatower | hmm |
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| 06:29.46 | valorie | hmmm, I don't see a #pulseaudio chan |
| 06:29.58 | valorie | you might find a devel in #phonon though |
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| 08:35.00 | Sarrg | Someones here who can help me? I kinda have the same problem as some other people, that KDE is so slow. Everything lags when trying to do something. |
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| 09:11.21 | dimm | please say what utilities can automount flash usb drives? |
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| 09:12.07 | thiago_home | udisks and hal |
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| 09:18.47 | dimm | guys, please remember me where in kde 3.5.10 i can found applet or something else that can setup automount flash usb drives ? |
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| 09:23.28 | valorie | dimm, maybe there is a #trinity channel? |
| 09:23.58 | dimm | will try |
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| 09:42.29 | titou | hi |
| 09:42.39 | titou | I have a question about the KDE font viewer |
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| 09:44.15 | titou | I am currently trying to use the Zapfino font which comes from my MacOS X (under Linux) |
| 09:44.24 | titou | and I would like to use the different font variants present in that font |
| 09:44.58 | titou | it seems that it is not possible since these variants are managed by the AAT mechanism which is only present under Mac OS X and not Linux which use OpenType |
| 09:45.09 | titou | however when I look the font in the KDE font viewer |
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| 09:46.56 | titou | and when I select the « All the characters » I can see all the different variants of each character... |
| 09:47.31 | titou | Thus I guess that if that application can print these variants I assume that with the correct Unicode code I would be able to print them in my document |
| 09:47.41 | titou | but I really don't know how to get the corresponding unicode code.. |
| 09:47.43 | titou | have a look at: |
| 09:47.50 | titou | http://ap2c.org/~aurelien/zapfino.png |
| 09:49.03 | Zbuben | titou: take a look at kcharselect, it gives unicode code |
| 09:49.45 | titou | yes i checked |
| 09:49.50 | titou | but i was not able to find them! |
| 09:50.03 | titou | I got only the default characters not the variant |
| 09:50.24 | titou | that's the trick |
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| 10:06.49 | titou | ok so it is very interesting |
| 10:06.53 | titou | I dumped the font with fontforge |
| 10:07.01 | titou | and I found the glyphes at the end of the font file |
| 10:07.07 | titou | they don't have any unicode code.. |
| 10:07.23 | titou | so I wonder how KDE font viewer can print them ... |
| 10:07.27 | titou | it's very strange |
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| 10:21.37 | comawhite | I'm having issues with the desktop effects. I get this error: Desktop effects are not available on this system due to the following technical issues: Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available. |
| 10:21.56 | comawhite | but it was working before I bought this new monitor |
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| 10:22.22 | comawhite | now when I installed this monitor, and had to do a new xorg.conf, that's when I couldn't have desktop effects |
| 10:22.44 | comawhite | it loads the nvidia driver |
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| 10:24.31 | comawhite | okay I recompiled libXdamage and libXcomposite, going to test brb |
| 10:24.46 | thomasj | erm |
| 10:25.00 | comawhite | ? |
| 10:25.16 | thomasj | Why would you recompile a lib when you broke the xorg.conf? |
| 10:26.02 | comawhite | well recompiling them didn't fix anything |
| 10:26.16 | thomasj | of course not |
| 10:26.24 | comawhite | :( |
| 10:26.41 | thomasj | If you read your first 4 lines, you gave yourself the answer :) |
| 10:26.57 | thomasj | Something's wrong with your xorg.conf |
| 10:27.29 | thomasj | Except you missed to tell us that you updated other things as well, not just the monitor. |
| 10:28.24 | comawhite | here's my xorg.conf: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/351809/ |
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| 10:34.43 | thomasj | Compare it with the old version |
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| 10:35.43 | thomasj | comawhite, btw, you might rather ask in #rhel |
| 10:35.52 | thomasj | It doesn't sound like a kde problem. |
| 10:36.01 | comawhite | okay thanks mate |
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| 10:36.03 | thomasj | so to say ;) |
| 10:36.16 | thomasj | np |
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| 10:39.19 | comawhite | thomasj, the problem was I had to disable xinerama |
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| 10:41.19 | thomasj | ah, cool you found it |
| 10:41.37 | comawhite | ^^ |
| 10:41.46 | comawhite | I hope one day, that will be fixed |
| 10:42.06 | thomasj | Yeah. You might pester the nvidia devs :D |
| 10:42.12 | comawhite | hehe |
| 10:42.27 | comawhite | it doesn't really matter though, it works, it works |
| 10:42.36 | thomasj | cool :) |
| 10:42.47 | comawhite | just needs another 1920x1080 monitor |
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| 10:49.28 | thomasj | Tumbleweed wooooot |
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| 10:49.57 | thomasj | hugs his one openSUSE box.. He was waiting for something like that since ages |
| 10:50.06 | thomasj | oh.. wrong channel |
| 10:50.14 | thomasj | sorry for the noise |
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| 10:52.58 | soa2ii | What's the best way to get an Ã¥ somehow included on your keyboard? I got this compose key and can do â â¦ Ä an so on but it seems there's no Ã¥ anywhere. |
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| 10:54.49 | szal | soa2ii: what kbd layout? |
| 10:55.05 | soa2ii | szal: German |
| 10:55.39 | szal | gets an å with AltGr+Shift+ü, then a (de-latin1) |
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| 10:56.05 | szal | will also work for the Czech ů |
| 10:56.06 | soa2ii | szal: Yeah. You're right. And the upper case? |
| 10:56.21 | szal | same with a capital A |
| 10:57.21 | soa2ii | szal: It's just a little hard to type. Could you make that more easy? Like AltGr + a? |
| 10:57.42 | szal | that gives me an æ |
| 10:57.46 | soa2ii | szal: Me too. |
| 10:58.02 | soa2ii | altgr ü would work too |
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| 10:58.42 | szal | but well, that's what xmodmap is for, you can tweak key combos to your liking ^^ |
| 10:59.12 | soa2ii | szal: Hm. So I would have to load some xmodmap stuff in my bashrc? |
| 10:59.32 | szal | has never used xmodmap |
| 11:00.33 | szal | the usual Western, Nordic, Slavonic, Romanian and Turkish characters are all available, what more do I want ^^ |
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| 11:01.21 | soa2ii | szal: Hm. It's hard if you switch between german and swedish. I could switch the keyboard layout all the time ⦠but that's annoying too. |
| 11:02.02 | szal | the Russians are switching all the time between Russian and some Western layout |
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| 11:02.22 | soa2ii | szal: That's their problem ;) |
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| 11:02.46 | soa2ii | I just want one additional character ⦠not a whole new set ;) |
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| 11:07.25 | szal | thomasj: Tumbleweed is an exceptionally good idea, if you ask me.. keep us posted on how well it goes, will you? :) |
| 11:07.45 | thomasj | szal, i will :) For sure :) |
| 11:08.21 | cb400f | it's a good idea if you love system administration and care more about version numbers than being productive >:-) |
| 11:08.29 | thomasj | nah |
| 11:08.37 | thomasj | It's still stable updates |
| 11:08.47 | thomasj | Nothing like rawhide or factory |
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| 11:09.22 | cb400f | still untested packages.. even if it'll only include code that's deemed stable by upstream |
| 11:09.48 | thomasj | Sure, can be fun sometimes.. But hey, no risk no fun ;) |
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| 11:10.04 | cb400f | maybe :-) |
| 11:10.25 | cb400f | prefers to just update apps and sometimes the DE.. but without basesystem screwage |
| 11:10.27 | thomasj | I will be one of the guinea pigs :D |
| 11:10.36 | szal | anyhoo, I expect it to be better manageable than e.g. Arch |
| 11:12.19 | szal | and it should be clear that you shouldn't use Tumbleweed for mission-critical tasks unless you have the time on your hands to fix eventual breakage |
| 11:12.51 | cb400f | unfortunately I don't think that's clear.. I think a lot people think they can have their cake and eat it too :-( |
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| 11:13.47 | titou | I would like to write a latex function which parse character by character what is given as parameter |
| 11:13.51 | titou | how can I do that? |
| 11:14.09 | titou | I only know the \@nextchar.. |
| 11:14.12 | szal | titou: this is #kde, not #latex ;) |
| 11:14.32 | titou | oups sorry ^^ I used the wrong window huhu |
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| 11:19.01 | thomasj | cb400f, +1 (cake and eat it too) |
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| 11:22.05 | Niek_ | I seem to be affected by this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=187023 |
| 11:22.27 | Niek_ | I'm using KDE 4.5.5 though. |
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| 11:23.05 | Niek_ | What's the best way to get my problem solved? Post a comment there to get the bug re-opened? |
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| 11:26.19 | kmzby | Niek_: I can confirm that for kde 4.5.1, except of that if I press "start" is starts fine |
| 11:26.27 | kmzby | btw the correct bug is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185544 |
| 11:26.47 | estan | hrm. struggling to get my sound to work properly. i get sound for notifications, but not e.g. juk or other phonon-using apps. |
| 11:27.03 | estan | soundcard is a CK804, which i've put on the top in the multimedia settings. |
| 11:27.09 | estan | using alsa. |
| 11:27.16 | estan | i get sound in mplayer and other apps. |
| 11:27.26 | estan | tried both gstreamer and xine phonon backends. |
| 11:27.30 | estan | any ideas? |
| 11:27.36 | estan | phone brb. |
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| 11:28.54 | Niek_ | kmzby: I see |
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| 12:01.01 | Who | guys one thing |
| 12:01.52 | Who | KDE conference is an international event, right ? |
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| 12:05.53 | Who | http://kde.in/conf/' |
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| 12:14.18 | rplnt | Is it possible to not alt-tab through groups? LIke I have windows A, B, C and C is group of 1,2,3. When alt-tabbing I just want cycle through A,B,C (not A,B,1,2,3) |
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| 12:53.50 | chaos_theory | I have installed kde and it feels kind of slugish, my hardware is up to scratch (i7, HD5650, 4GB DDR3 RAM) any ideas on how to speed it up? |
| 12:54.18 | Damnshock | chaos_theory: disable the blur effect |
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| 12:55.18 | chaos_theory | ah :) seems better thank you |
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| 12:56.58 | pingufan | Hello, I upgraded my system right now to openSuSE 11.4. So I have now KDE 4.6 running. I would like to have the globe in background, but it should fill 90% of the screen height, not ~40%. How can I configure that, please? |
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| 12:58.37 | aseigo | pingufan: just zoom in? i think mouse wheel does that even... |
| 12:58.54 | aseigo | pingufan: otherwise, wallpapers can have configurations in the right click -> settings menu |
| 12:59.25 | pingufan | Where shall I use the mouse wheel? |
| 13:00.51 | pingufan | Where to right-click? Nothing of that works. |
| 13:00.56 | chaos_theory | when I play movies in vlc and I change it to full screen it like changes to slow mow (lagging a bit) |
| 13:01.54 | cb400f | so try toggling effects off (alt+shift+f12) or check your cpu load |
| 13:02.26 | cb400f | ctrl+esc to do the latter |
| 13:02.34 | chaos_theory | cb400f it's an i7 I really don't think it's because of my CPU |
| 13:03.13 | cb400f | who knows some of these high quality videos these days are nasty :-) |
| 13:03.38 | chaos_theory | lol nah it works fine in gnome and when not in full screen, but once the fullscreen is active it is slow |
| 13:03.40 | cb400f | and there might some other process hogging it |
| 13:04.14 | chaos_theory | the CPU is not the issue here |
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| 13:05.28 | Jucato_ | GPU perhaps? |
| 13:06.29 | chaos_theory | HD5650 1GB DDR5 don't think so besides in gnome, in windows 7 and everywhere else it's perfect |
| 13:06.32 | chaos_theory | just KDE |
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| 13:08.58 | Jucato_ | weird. I have a weaker system and I haven't experienced such problems. but then again I rarely use VLC on Linux. mostly mplayer (smplayer when requiring a GUI) |
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| 13:12.05 | mns` | hi, would like to thanks everybody who made kde 4.6 available. it's working fine here and very fast too |
| 13:12.35 | mns` | my system is a celeron 1.4 + 2gb ram and a harddrive of 160gb |
| 13:12.46 | mns` | and everything is fine |
| 13:13.13 | mns` | i only have enabled to 3 window effect |
| 13:13.26 | mns` | shadow, minimize effects |
| 13:13.36 | mns` | and maximize |
| 13:13.43 | aseigo | it's a nice release, yes :) |
| 13:13.49 | mns` | that's all what i need |
| 13:13.57 | mns` | great work =) |
| 13:14.18 | mns` | and i run archlinux =] |
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| 13:26.46 | rplnt | Is it possible to configure "atl-tab" to not cycle through groups? [repost] |
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| 13:33.54 | gameaccount | hi. I am using KDE SC 4.6 with its ability to display win7-like launchers integrated into the window bar. But for some reasons when I activate a launcher, the launcher moves around and jumps to another position. After closing the programme, the launcher stays at its position. How do I make them stay where they are every time? |
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| 13:36.04 | Jucato | has no idea what these "win7-like launchers" are |
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| 13:39.59 | gameaccount | Jucato: it is a rather hidden feature: if you rightclick an open task in your task bar you can select in 'advanced settings' which shows a starter for the programme even it is not running |
| 13:40.10 | gameaccount | it is one of the features in 4.6 |
| 13:40.22 | rplnt | Jucato: shortcut to application and it's window are the same. application is either not running (and it's just regular icon) or it is running and the "icon" becomes it's task manager placeholder. you can run new instance, switch to its window or many other things (in win7 at least)( |
| 13:40.25 | Jucato | interesting |
| 13:41.21 | Jucato | which actually doesn't work for me :) |
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| 13:41.47 | Jucato | (and is one of the things that somewhat annoy me in Win7 :P) |
| 13:41.48 | gameaccount | yes, interesting indeed. But unfortunately, the icons are jumping around instead of staying at their place |
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| 13:42.11 | Jucato | ah there it is. needed to "refresh" the panel |
| 13:42.28 | gameaccount | Jucato: I somewhat like them, they save some screen estate for me |
| 13:43.16 | Jucato | sorry I'm actually experiencing a different "bug", so I don't have an answer to your question :) |
| 13:43.49 | gameaccount | so, both of us should fill in a bug reports about this? ;) |
| 13:44.40 | Jucato | probably :) |
| 13:44.53 | Jucato | except I'm less inclined to see it fixed :P |
| 13:45.11 | Jucato | rplnt: I can't find any option for the behavior you want, so I'm guessing "no" |
| 13:45.53 | Jucato | rplnt: actually. hold on a sec |
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| 13:47.04 | Jucato | rplnt: ah yes, it's possible (if I understood you correctly). System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Task Switcher, set List Windows to Current Desktop Grouped by Application. |
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| 13:49.03 | Jucato | rplnt: um ... unfortunately that only works for windows grouped automatically (which groups them by application), not for manual groups of mixed apps that you created |
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| 13:52.44 | gameaccount | apparently the tast manager need a bit more love in this regard |
| 13:52.52 | gameaccount | okay,thanks for the help,bye |
| 13:53.24 | Jucato | feel free to give it some moar :) |
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| 13:56.57 | rplnt | Jucato: thanks |
| 13:57.03 | dev778 | hi all |
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| 14:16.28 | b0o-supermario | Hi guys |
| 14:16.45 | b0o-supermario | What is the command sequence to launch a desktop? |
| 14:17.16 | thiago | Ctrl+F1 |
| 14:17.34 | cb400f | from where? startkde to start kde... 'plasma-desktop' to start the plasma desktop |
| 14:17.35 | b0o-supermario | Not that |
| 14:17.35 | thiago | either that, or make a more specific question |
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| 14:17.47 | b0o-supermario | I wanna do it in other tty |
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| 14:17.57 | cb400f | but you should prolly talk to your distro about this |
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| 14:18.02 | b0o-supermario | From beastie |
| 14:18.13 | b0o-supermario | Pc-bsd |
| 14:18.32 | thiago | type: startx |
| 14:18.52 | b0o-supermario | Then |
| 14:19.09 | thiago | then watch as the KDE desktop opens |
| 14:19.10 | b0o-supermario | Startx | kde4? |
| 14:19.32 | thiago | no |
| 14:19.33 | thiago | just "startx" |
| 14:19.35 | b0o-supermario | I wanna do sequence manually |
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| 14:19.50 | b0o-supermario | I wanna start each wm in each tty |
| 14:19.59 | b0o-supermario | Like e, etc |
| 14:20.13 | b0o-supermario | E + kde + twm |
| 14:20.19 | thiago | man startx |
| 14:20.22 | thiago | this is not a KDE question |
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| 14:21.09 | b0o-supermario | But general question |
| 14:21.27 | thiago | general KDE question, yes? |
| 14:21.27 | b0o-supermario | X :0 | E works? |
| 14:21.34 | b0o-supermario | Yes |
| 14:21.45 | thiago | ask a KDE question and you'll get an answer |
| 14:21.51 | b0o-supermario | X :1 | KDE4? |
| 14:22.00 | b0o-supermario | What sequence? |
| 14:22.01 | thiago | that's not a KDE question |
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| 14:22.09 | b0o-supermario | I know i should start x first... |
| 14:22.09 | Ticho | startx `which twm` -- :1 |
| 14:22.16 | thiago | KDE needs an X server running to run. That's that. |
| 14:22.39 | b0o-supermario | So what's executabue name of kde? |
| 14:22.49 | b0o-supermario | Kde desktop * |
| 14:22.51 | thiago | startkde |
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| 14:24.02 | b0o-supermario | X :1 | startkde? |
| 14:24.26 | thiago | no |
| 14:24.26 | b0o-supermario | I wanna do that manually |
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| 14:24.43 | thiago | X :1 & DISPLAY=:1 startkde |
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| 14:25.05 | b0o-supermario | So that i can replace kde desktop command with other wm |
| 14:25.14 | thiago | yes |
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| 15:39.07 | domme | if you start a command with konsole -e is it possible to stop konsole from quitting after the command is finished? |
| 15:40.23 | pinotree | --hold or --noclose? |
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| 15:40.59 | b0o-supermario | recommends cmd.exe in windows |
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| 15:41.14 | domme | yep, didnt see that at first.. but it's not working as i thought |
| 15:41.34 | domme | because it doesnt return to a shell, i guess b0o-supermario is right there (somehow) ;) |
| 15:41.53 | domme | konsole --hold -e zsh foo |
| 15:41.55 | domme | or something |
| 15:43.00 | domme | ah probably i dont even need --hold then |
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| 15:47.26 | doxin | my arch/kde instalation has pretty bad cpy usage spikes lasting a couple seconds every few hours, any ideas on what's going on here> |
| 15:47.27 | doxin | ? |
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| 16:04.54 | twois10 | Something that bugs me about KDE is when watching video on fullscreen, screensaver still kicks in. Is there a away around this |
| 16:05.07 | thiago_home | yes |
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| 16:05.14 | thiago_home | tell your video player to disable the screensaver |
| 16:05.33 | twois10 | this is flash video |
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| 16:06.07 | thiago_home | right |
| 16:06.12 | thiago_home | tell your video player to disable the screensaver |
| 16:06.14 | thiago_home | same answer |
| 16:06.36 | twois10 | and how do you tell the browser to do this? |
| 16:07.02 | thiago_home | you don't, that's not up to the browser |
| 16:07.06 | thiago_home | it's up to the flash player |
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| 16:08.34 | twois10 | well thiago_home, if i knew how, i wouldnt be here :) |
| 16:08.45 | thiago_home | you're asking the wrong channel |
| 16:08.52 | thiago_home | you need to ask people who know how to configure flash |
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| 16:10.11 | twois10 | it's a kde issue from what i gatthered |
| 16:10.16 | thiago_home | no, it's not |
| 16:10.31 | thiago_home | mplayer does it just fine: the screensaver is inhibited |
| 16:10.32 | thiago_home | so it's flash |
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| 17:47.53 | jdeisenberg | Mandriva 2010, KDE 4.x. How do I edit the kickoff menu so that an entry appears for all users? (Where is the "system menu" file located, if there is one?) |
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| 17:50.18 | cb400f | there isn't ... there are hundreds of .desktop files |
| 17:50.42 | cb400f | in multiple different locations |
| 17:51.29 | jdeisenberg | When I right-click the Kickoff menu, I can edit the menu items. Those all must go into one file, yes? |
| 17:51.42 | jdeisenberg | and it's on a per-user basis (since I don't need to be root to modify the menu) |
| 17:51.48 | cb400f | yes, but that's user specific and hackish |
| 17:52.07 | cb400f | you should create a .desktop file e.g. in /usr/share/applications/ I think |
| 17:52.39 | cb400f | just use an existing one as a "template" |
| 17:52.50 | jdeisenberg | I would like to add an entry to the kickoff menu for application X, and have it be visible for all users without having to go into each one of their .kde4 directories and modify them all. |
| 17:53.48 | jdeisenberg | Ah. here we are; the system equivalent of ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu |
| 17:57.34 | jdeisenberg | does such a thing exist? |
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| 17:58.30 | pinotree | jdeisenberg: do you want to add a new menu entry (ie an application) or a new submenu/menu configuration? |
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| 17:59.06 | jdeisenberg | pinotree: an application, but I want it to be available to all users without having to individually edit their ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu files. |
| 17:59.20 | jdeisenberg | (available via the Kickoff menu) |
| 17:59.33 | pinotree | then you need to just provide a .desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications |
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| 17:59.57 | pinotree | see the other .desktop files there, and http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec in general |
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| 18:05.42 | jdeisenberg | Ah, OK, thank you very much. |
| 18:05.45 | jdeisenberg | Now I get it. |
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| 18:11.24 | jdeisenberg | I'm just slow today, sorry. |
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| 19:01.12 | sven_oostenbrink | Why is kmix such a mess? All it needs to do is show an volume display, and modify volume... it regularly takes up over 2GB of memory, 99% CPU, it messes with my multi monitor setup (pressing volume up, and one monitor will be turned off), it manages the volume incorrectly... did I forget to mention anything? probably... |
| 19:01.34 | sven_oostenbrink | Is kmix something special that I don't know about? All KDE works fine, or at least reasonable.. but kmix? omg.. |
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| 19:02.12 | cb400f | that might have been true before pulseaudio made sound the most complicated thing imaginable |
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| 19:16.31 | ali1234 | is there a plasma theme that looks like gtk+? |
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| 19:19.46 | cb400f | gtk can look many different ways |
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| 19:20.06 | ali1234 | so is there a theme that will make plasma always look like my selected gtk+ theme? |
| 19:20.50 | cb400f | probably not.. maybe you should just select oxygen-gtk as your gtk theme :-) |
| 19:21.17 | ali1234 | no |
| 19:21.38 | ali1234 | ok, which plasma theme has the least ugly gradients and drop shadows? |
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| 19:22.10 | cb400f | aya might be for you |
| 19:22.30 | ali1234 | it has an obvious gradient |
| 19:23.35 | ali1234 | how can i make the panel clock use the same font as the rest of the panel? |
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| 19:24.19 | cb400f | in the clock settings |
| 19:24.22 | cb400f | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/ASCII?content=122261 |
| 19:24.48 | _kdepepo | lol |
| 19:25.16 | ali1234 | nope, no setting for font size in the clock settings |
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| 19:26.01 | ali1234 | i just want the time to be in the same font as the date |
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| 19:27.06 | _kdepepo | ali1234, use "adjustable clock". It's in kdereview, maybe your distribution has a package- |
| 19:27.33 | _kdepepo | Plasma developers decided that changing font size is bad. |
| 19:28.30 | ali1234 | nope |
| 19:28.46 | _kdepepo | then compile from source :P |
| 19:28.52 | _kdepepo | I use that, too. |
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| 19:29.13 | cb400f | maybe there's a panel height where it fits |
| 19:29.26 | ali1234 | this? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=92825 |
| 19:29.49 | ali1234 | because that doesn't go on the panel |
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| 19:31.50 | perrito666 | new question, in the "desktop effects" section there is an (i) icon stating "Desktop effects are not available on this system due to the following technical issues:" |
| 19:32.00 | perrito666 | where can I find logs that state thouse issues? |
| 19:32.04 | perrito666 | :) |
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| 19:32.50 | perrito666 | oh, sorry using kde 4.6 in ubuntu |
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| 19:46.27 | regomodo | any gentoo users? |
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| 19:46.48 | icewind | ex gentoo user here if that helps |
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| 19:47.59 | regomodo | I'm wondering how to play videos over samba without downloading them entirely 1st |
| 19:48.19 | icewind | hmm, now idea |
| 19:48.30 | regomodo | k |
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| 19:48.58 | cb400f | is the server a windows machine? .. I remember having that problem years ago.. didn't have problems "streaming" from a linux samba server |
| 19:48.59 | icewind | but from what I understand from kio is that the app can decide whether to fully download the file first |
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| 19:56.08 | regomodo | <cb400f> No it's a linux box. I have no probs with ubuntu laptop and a machine with kde4.4.5 |
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| 19:57.21 | regomodo | <icewind>I thought it may be something to do with that but kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves as the samba USE flag enabled |
| 19:57.31 | regomodo | *has |
| 19:57.42 | ali1234 | how do i get my desktop icons back? |
| 19:58.22 | cb400f | right click desktop -> desktop settings -> select "folderview" as activity |
| 19:58.29 | cb400f | takes you straight to windows95 mode |
| 19:58.50 | ali1234 | i don't have "desktop settings" |
| 19:58.57 | ali1234 | i have "desktop activity settings" |
| 19:59.12 | cb400f | that'll do |
| 19:59.16 | ali1234 | ah found it |
| 19:59.30 | ali1234 | can i get rid of that thing in the top right corner too? |
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| 19:59.49 | cb400f | hover over it... click on the 'X' |
| 20:00.03 | cb400f | assuming widgets aren't locked |
| 20:00.03 | icewind | I think he means the cashew |
| 20:00.05 | ali1234 | there isn;t an X |
| 20:00.10 | ali1234 | it just says "tool box" |
| 20:00.57 | cb400f | ah, that.. there a "stealth cashew" plasmoid somewhere |
| 20:01.17 | cb400f | or you can drag it behind your panel to hide it ;-) |
| 20:01.33 | ali1234 | heh nice |
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| 20:25.36 | viric | Hello |
| 20:26.19 | viric | I've big troubles making k3b continue a dvd session |
| 20:26.28 | viric | and I can't understand what I'm doing wrong |
| 20:26.43 | viric | additionally it segfaults at opening the settings dialog |
| 20:26.49 | ali1234 | hmm that's interesting... didn't realise you can just put all the panel widgets directly onto the desktop |
| 20:26.55 | viric | (it looks like a stack overflow, because the backtrace is quite big) |
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| 20:27.05 | ali1234 | i could just do that, and then drawn a decent looking panel on my wallpaper :) |
| 20:27.13 | viric | I've seen posts about this somewhere... but 4.5.5 does not have that solved for what I test |
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| 20:28.53 | viric | These days... maybe k3b is a little abandoned due to few people recording dvds |
| 20:29.54 | viric | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238819 |
| 20:30.04 | viric | ah there is a patch |
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| 20:38.01 | logann2019 | i totaly agree with viric |
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| 20:54.46 | Ahyuwhiye | I am using Konversation 1.3.1, is there an option for logging a specific channel only? |
| 20:56.02 | Ahyuwhiye | and does kde sc 4.6 need fam or gamin for file alteration monitoring (in dolphin, ...) |
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| 21:12.22 | woodefec | hi |
| 21:12.33 | woodefec | hi, what is the process name for Networkmanager-GNOME? |
| 21:12.46 | woodefec | i installed it, it ran. I added it to the KDE autostart in opensuse 11.4 |
| 21:12.50 | thiago_home | looks at the channel name |
| 21:12.57 | thiago_home | woodefec: no clue |
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| 21:13.01 | woodefec | after reboot it doesn't show in system tray |
| 21:13.15 | thiago_home | ask in #opensuse |
| 21:13.18 | woodefec | it shows for some miliseconds and disappears |
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| 21:13.34 | woodefec | thiago_home, I am asking, and on gnome too |
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| 21:13.49 | thiago_home | right, but your distro's channel is a better place |
| 21:14.01 | woodefec | i am in need to access the mob boradb. network so I am searching for clues |
| 21:14.18 | woodefec | I need to use it, because the plasmoid and KNM are a pain in the ar$#% when it comes to mobile broadband |
| 21:14.49 | woodefec | the program name is nm-applet |
| 21:14.58 | woodefec | killall nm-applet = process not found |
| 21:15.05 | woodefec | trying to run nm-applet from console = Instance already running |
| 21:15.13 | woodefec | so what is the point here?> |
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| 21:16.09 | woodefec | maybe I am guessing wrong, searching wrong... did u encounter disappearing apps from KDE4 system tray? |
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| 21:16.26 | thiago_home | if they're using the old protocol, it's known to happen |
| 21:16.31 | thiago_home | happens when plasma restarts |
| 21:17.12 | woodefec | thiago_home, what do u mean by "old protocol"? |
| 21:17.26 | thiago_home | the old systray protocol |
| 21:17.31 | thiago_home | the new one never has disappearing icons |
| 21:20.10 | woodefec | thiago_home, could you tell me how do I discover the protocol version? It's KDE 4.6.0 from the 11.4 ver of suse released yesterday |
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| 21:20.45 | thiago_home | run qdbus and see if you find the application there |
| 21:20.49 | thiago_home | if it's there, it's the new protocol |
| 21:20.55 | thiago_home | if it's not there, it's the old protocol |
| 21:21.15 | woodefec | what version of KDE provides the new protocol? |
| 21:21.26 | thiago_home | 4.3 I think |
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| 21:21.33 | thiago_home | it was experimental then |
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| 21:22.08 | thiago_home | but the question is whether the application is using the new protocol |
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| 21:22.58 | woodefec | thiago_home, I can see org.kde.networkmanagement |
| 21:23.03 | woodefec | but not nm-applet |
| 21:23.24 | thiago_home | I doubt the gnome applet has a name starting with "org.kde" |
| 21:24.24 | woodefec | thiago_home, i just wanted to start the nm-applet from console, it said Instance already running |
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| 21:24.38 | thiago_home | is that a KDE application? |
| 21:24.49 | woodefec | no, it's a GNOME app |
| 21:25.01 | thiago_home | then I can't help you |
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| 21:27.08 | woodefec | it's crazy, nm-applet impossible to kill and still running |
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| 21:38.33 | woodefec | I did it! |
| 21:38.48 | woodefec | I deinstalled all NetworkManager* packages that had the string "kde4" in package name |
| 21:38.58 | woodefec | yast hast automatically added some more gnome related nm-stuff |
| 21:39.04 | woodefec | nm-applet working now |
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| 21:53.12 | Sho_ | Ahyuwhiye: KDE can use inotify, dnotify, or fam/gamin |
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| 21:55.54 | Ahyuwhiye | Sho_: thank you for the info |
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| 22:23.20 | hussam | kde has built in desktop search? |
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| 22:23.46 | hussam | like tracker under gnome |
| 22:23.58 | thiago_home | yes |
| 22:24.00 | thiago_home | nepomuk |
| 22:24.10 | hussam | ok cool :) |
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| 22:24.46 | hussam | what's the frontend to it? |
| 22:25.05 | thiago_home | all the applications |
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| 22:27.23 | hussam | ok thanks :) I'm running a search from dolphin to test it :) |
| 22:27.46 | hussam | will it index opendocument format and MS office documents? |
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| 22:30.55 | hussam | ok, it found the .pdf files but failed to find .ods and .xls |
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| 22:33.40 | hussam | is it something missing in my installation perhaps? |
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| 22:43.27 | hussam | any idea? |
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| 22:56.39 | Fenix60 | acabo de poner gstreamer y al abrir un video de youtube si que lo escucho |
| 22:57.11 | Fenix60 | el problema es cuando ahora pongo amarok y no oigo nada |
| 22:57.26 | thiago_home | what sound card? |
| 22:57.41 | Fenix60 | ups, sorry |
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| 23:04.09 | Neuhmaan | Hi ! |
| 23:04.18 | Neuhmaan | I have a problem with Akonadi : http://pastebin.com/mvxuja4h < Log |
| 23:04.32 | Neuhmaan | The sql server work correctly |
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| 23:05.45 | emeric | Hi there. |
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| 23:08.37 | emeric | Is there in kde another place to change keyboard layout ? The settings in Input Devices/Keyboard/Layouts don't seem to have anz effect. |
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| 23:16.09 | ChibaPet | Hey, two quick questions... 1) What are KDE equivalents to eog and evince, if I want to launch a viewer from a command line? 2) Anyone know when Debian Testing is moving to 4.6? I read somewhere "beginning of March" but wonder if anyone knows more. |
| 23:16.10 | Neuhmaan | Hi ! |
| 23:16.40 | Neuhmaan | I have a problem with Akonadi, he don't want to startup : http://pastebin.com/mvxuja4h |
| 23:16.53 | Neuhmaan | But the sql server is correct and work correctly |
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| 23:18.06 | hussam | chibapet, gwenview and okular |
| 23:18.11 | ChibaPet | ty ty |
| 23:18.32 | hussam | thanks, just learned that myself a week ago :) |
| 23:18.52 | ChibaPet | I keep wanting to switch back. I might do it this weekend. |
| 23:19.16 | ChibaPet | Hoping to move from Debian Squeeze to Testing as soon as 4.6 hits. |
| 23:20.04 | hussam | politics aside, I feel a lot of people are switching back to kde in fear of gnome3 |
| 23:20.12 | ChibaPet | hehe |
| 23:20.25 | hussam | last kde I used before this month was 3.4 long years ago |
| 23:20.33 | ChibaPet | That's about when I used it. |
| 23:20.34 | dalop | is there any commandline word to launch ProcessTable (e.g. instad of pushing ctrl-escape) ? |
| 23:21.39 | ChibaPet | Maybe I'll just start using KDE anyway, even before 4.6. Anyway, thank you for the pointers! :) |
| 23:22.11 | hussam | good luck :) |
| 23:22.16 | ChibaPet | ty |
| 23:22.55 | emeric | So... No way to change keyboard layout then ? |
| 23:23.14 | ChibaPet | xmodmap, but I'm sure there's a gui way |
| 23:23.40 | emeric | There is one in system settings, but it has no effect. |
| 23:24.16 | BajK_ | any ideas why dolphin doesnt show conents of my home dir if I first launch it? |
| 23:24.24 | BajK_ | so, I press Meta+E (Shortcut defined by me) to launch dolphin |
| 23:24.32 | ChibaPet | Is there a preference for where it starts? |
| 23:24.33 | BajK_ | it displays an empty folder, if I navigate anywhere the folder contents are shown |
| 23:24.47 | ChibaPet | I need to finish my install and come back so I can answer questions. :P |
| 23:24.48 | BajK_ | also if I press Alt+(.) do show hidden files, the home direcotry's contents are shown |
| 23:25.04 | ChibaPet | later all (and thanks again) |
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| 23:26.33 | dalop | how to disable or hide the "log out" button in k-menu without installing new software? |
| 23:26.47 | hussam | anyone knows why nepomuk won't index my opendocument files? |
| 23:26.47 | BajK_ | okay, this is a bug and already fixed :) |
| 23:27.08 | hussam | plain text and pdf and correctly indexed |
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| 23:43.10 | Phoenixz | So pidgin uses the KDE popups to show that somebody is online.. Why is pidgin every now and then all of the sudden showing GTK like popups for this? After a reboot its normal again.. |
| 23:43.58 | hussam | you have notification-daemon installed? |
| 23:44.16 | pinotree | and running even |
| 23:44.37 | hussam | dbus launches it if I remember correctly |
| 23:44.46 | Phoenixz | hussam: KDE notification daemon, I suppose so, kubuntu 10.10, I always get KDE notifications, and all of the sudden they change to gtk notifications.. |
| 23:44.53 | Phoenixz | hussam: how can I check if its running? |
| 23:45.04 | hussam | I meant the gtk+ popup |
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| 23:45.15 | hussam | that's a "notification-daemon" package |
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| 23:46.24 | Phoenixz | hussam: update-notifier-common maybe? |
| 23:46.31 | Phoenixz | no |
| 23:46.47 | hussam | nono, it's the gnome thing. the gtk notification |
| 23:47.20 | Phoenixz | hussam: I guess it comes with pidgin.. even so, pidgin (normall) shows KDE notificacions... only every so often, I get the GTK ones.. |
| 23:47.26 | hussam | no, it doesn't |
| 23:47.34 | Phoenixz | hussam: a dpkg -l | grep notif doesn't show anything |
| 23:47.35 | hussam | pidgin just links against libnotify |
| 23:47.46 | hussam | ah |
| 23:47.48 | hussam | weird |
| 23:48.22 | hussam | doesn't ubuntu use it's own thing instead of gnome's notifcation-daemon? |
| 23:48.47 | hussam | perhaps you need to find that out and remove it so the native kde equivalent is used |
| 23:50.43 | Phoenixz | hussam: AFAIK, it does.. No idea why it falls back on the GTK one, and afaik, it only does so with pidgin.. |
| 23:50.54 | Phoenixz | Do I even dare ask about kmix? |
| 23:50.56 | Phoenixz | :) |
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| 23:57.52 | dalop | with kde, is it possible to make link to application which just opens konsole and runs ls ~/ ? |
