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02:55.00invisiblekjust discovered plasma activities this looks fun
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03:33.04srk9How difficult would it be to make the gray window decorations in the following screenshot look like the transparent menu? http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.6/screenshots/46-w09.png
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03:34.19leo_rockwaysrk9: there's a transparent oxygen, but it's experimental
03:34.32leo_rockwayI think it was in kde-look (get hot new stuff)
03:35.53srk9leo_rockway: I just found it. It isn't quite the same.
03:36.04leo_rockwayI haven't tried it myself
03:36.10leo_rockwayI saw it in the planet, I think
03:36.14leo_rockwaythat's the closest thing I know
03:36.39srk9I was sort of hoping for more of a glass effect like the little window in the screenshot has.
03:36.52leo_rockwaythat has blur
03:37.02srk9It also does not have any gray.
03:37.08leo_rockwayI think the decoration doesn't
03:37.20srk9I would like the decoration to have it.
03:37.24leo_rockwayyou want something like Windows?
03:37.25srk9It would look awesome.
03:37.33srk9Well, I don't like seeing gray.
03:37.34leo_rockwayI think Vista had that... I'm not sure, though
03:37.51leo_rockwayI only activated Desktop Effects yesterday, haha
03:37.57leo_rockwayI usually like plain desktops
03:38.47srk9This is what Vista has: http://media.photobucket.com/image/windows%20aero%20glass/blogwork/glassed.jpg
03:39.28srk9I prefer eye candy. KDE's gray never really grew on me, but I typically only use Chromium and Konsole, so I usually don't notice.
03:39.54leo_rockwayare you looking for something like vista's? I don't know anything like that (which doesn't mean it doesn't exist)
03:40.58srk9leo_rockway: Well, someone told me that KDE was ugly and upon questioning him, I found out that I have to agree. :/
03:41.05srk9He finds the gray window decorations to be ugly.
03:41.20leo_rockwaythe colors can be changed o.o
03:43.32srk9leo_rockway: I don't think that would help. Having opaque window decorations is somewhat bland.
03:43.59leo_rockwaywell, you're talking to the wrong person, haha. I really don't care much about how the decorations look.
03:44.00srk9I think something along the lines of a transparent gradient would like nicer.
03:44.18srk9I did when I switched from Windows. Then I stopped caring. Now that he pointed it out to me, I care again.
03:45.03srk9Well, now that a friend pointed it out to me.
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03:45.32srk9Actually, what I want is translucency.
03:45.34srk9Not transparency.
03:46.10leo_rockwaymaybe there's a way, but I wouldn't know it
03:46.34srk9I am filing a wish request.
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06:45.57subhashishHello, how do i disable window thumbnails/previews in kde 4.6?
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08:03.38saintdevhow do i modify the socket options that the samba kioslave uses? I get extremely slow transfers with it.
08:05.21saintdevreads are around 6MBps, while writes are around 900KBps. in comparison using smbclient gives me around 22MBps in both directions.
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08:35.53heiseckemy father had a printer ( canon pixma xxx ) and therefor i have installed turboprint. but now i have bought him an HP All in one Printer, Scanner etc.! and i have installed hplip! all works fine printing from acroread, firefox, testpage! but printing from kde-prgrams like kmail, konqueror the quality is very bad! can i configure kde's printing seperatly? the system is: openSuSE 11.1 kde 4.4. can someone help me please?
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08:37.06thiagoheisecke: there is nothing to be configured
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08:40.26heiseckehmm?
08:41.03heiseckei have uninstalled turboprint
08:41.24heiseckebut ist wasn't better
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08:42.14heiseckeonly kde things are printing wrong
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08:48.23heiseckeno idea? hmm? i will try to get it work, next weekend with a "mv .kde4 to .kde4_save"
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10:44.45moofangagentc: what exactly crashes? Plasma?
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11:31.45sputnickhi there
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11:38.19Casey_Iiams-Haus>Hi Guys, can I ask a quick question about an error I'm getting for Kleopatra?
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11:38.30Casey_Iiams-HausI'm running win7 and never got this error before, but on my new laptop I get "The program can't start because libkdecore.dll us missing from your computer"
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11:40.54Casey_Iiams-HausOkay, in Ghana working at a health center so my connectivity is limited, if you have an answer, please send me an email at caseynth@gmail.com
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11:40.57Casey_Iiams-HausThanks!
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11:49.47icarus-ccan i configure kdm to suspend after a period of time or laptop lid is closed?
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13:15.22novoidI am using some KDE tools like konsole but my windowmgr is OpenBox. How can I modify KDE font settings? There is no "kcontrol" or "systemsettings" in my path :-(
13:15.50novoidCould it be that I am using KDE apps but there is no kcontrol installed at all?
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13:24.59novoidHow can I modify default font settings by invoking a config too from the command line?
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13:52.08FloridaGuykde 4.6.0...cant change panel icons..unless i do it as a whole icon theme....looking on the web it looks like icon setting are stored here.. ( /usr/share/applications ) where you dont have permission to write.....how can i fix this??
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13:54.50FloridaGuyanyone here
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13:57.06Edulixhi
13:57.39agentcmoin
13:57.40Edulixhow can I put plasma widgets in the lock screen (it was Chani google summer of code)?
13:58.39agentcEdulix: right mouse, add widgets, before "unlock widgets"
13:59.28Edulixagentc: add widgets add widgets only to the plasma desktop, right?
14:00.41agentcEdulix: that widgets are no directly windows in traditional case, it is a part of the desktop background witch is handled like a window but have minor priority when setting a normal application window in foreground.
14:01.53Edulixagentc: I don't understood a thing you said. how can I add widgets to the "lock screen", again?
14:02.05FloridaGuykde 4.6.0...cant change panel icons..unless i do it as a whole icon theme....looking on the web it looks like icon setting are stored here.. ( /usr/share/applications ) where you dont have permission to write.....how can i fix this??
14:04.17agentcEdulix: i am also newbe on plasma-desk , but normally rightclick and select add widget, but if you mean to add while in "activity" selection mode, i dont know.
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14:07.13sebasFloridaGuy: install a plasma theme you like, you can do that as user
14:07.29sebas(see, the solutions are right there, no need to fight the implementation)
14:08.26FloridaGuysebas: the solution is for devs to stop messing things up...
14:08.46sebasFloridaGuy: yeah ... with that attitude you're not gonna get very far
14:09.08FloridaGuyuse to beable to change each icon one by one
14:09.10sebasSorry I even bothered helping you
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14:10.24FloridaGuyi dident mean it the way i said it....
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14:12.19agentcALL: where's the prob when OpenGL works but XRender do not ? is XRender in need of special hardware ?
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14:12.53sebasagentc: drivers need to support it
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14:13.02sebassome support XRender really well, others don't
14:13.31FloridaGuysebas: i have 1 icon i want to use for dolphin...but i cant change just 1con for some reason....  thats all i want to beable to do..
14:15.33agentcsebas: on intel 915 ??
14:15.53sebasagentc: I don't know about that level of detail, unfortunately
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14:16.44sebasagentc: opengl allows you to use more effects, and is usually the better choice, though
14:17.08sebasXRender is basically 2d accel, so you won't get things like the cube and others
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14:18.49FloridaGuydont know what i did..but problem solved...
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15:08.31Peace-guys i can't get where rekonq saves flash videos
15:08.41Peace-rekonq uses kio
15:08.50Peace-but i can't locate where it saves flash
15:08.52Peace-some hint?
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15:10.55cb400fmaybe in .kde(4)/cache-(hostname)/  .. just a hint.. dunno
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15:13.37Peace-cb400f: ty
15:13.46Peace-i am here right now i can see something
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16:06.22ezra_I am opening an apache config file with kate but I see no syntax highlighting, excuse me for this basic question but.. how do I enable it?
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16:11.13Elbardoes tools -> highliting -> configuration -> apache config the trick?
16:11.22Elbarwithout the spelling ;)
16:11.23ezra_yess, it seems I overlooked it
16:11.25ezra_thanks!
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16:30.03tolishello there, i think i ve found a bug in rekonq
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16:34.27tolisannma: it is a visual bug
16:34.30tolishttp://img3.imageshack.us/i/snapshot2ee.png/
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16:35.42annmaonly with rekonq?
16:36.15tolisyes and only with gmail when asking to save password or not
16:36.33annmadid you try konqueror?
16:37.39tolisill try now
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16:39.44tolisannma: happens only with rekonq
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16:40.25annmaissue a rekonq bug then
16:40.52annmaattach the screenshot in the report, no link to some imagebin
16:41.12tolisok
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16:58.02Rajitcan anyone suggest an interesting topic from networking on which i can give a 5 minute presentation?
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17:15.11DaskreechRajit: Depend on the audience of course
17:15.22Rajitahh it does
17:15.41Rajiti decided on collaborative editing protocols
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17:21.33DaskreechAh nice
17:22.47DaskreechRajit: http://gitorious.org/kobby
17:23.01Rajiti did saw kobby
17:23.11Rajitwas thinking about the infinote protocol
17:23.53Daskreech:) You can contact the maintainer for it
17:24.24RajitDaskreech: the presentation is tomorrow morning. Just found out about it. :P
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18:12.15MoggerJR_w: you could try a third-party PPA if you find one with kuickshow
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18:21.03JR_wMogger -- There is something about kuickshow that doesn't like KDE versions higher than 3.5.  It takes a special library, as explained in the website: http://userbase.kde.org/Kuickshow
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18:22.37MoggerJR_w: yes, you need the kde4 version of kuickshow and imlib
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18:23.39MoggerJR_w: but if you can find packages for those, you don't need to build from source
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18:26.06JR_wMogger -- I don't know how to find such repos ... packages, darn it
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18:26.51MoggerJR_w: I assume you use *buntu? I'm not too familiar with the package manager ubuntu uses, but I found a ppa for kuickshow for lucid (not sure if it works for the newest version): https://launchpad.net/~weits666/+archive/ppa
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18:28.17MoggerJR_w: here's one with imlib and kuickshow for maverick: https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa
18:28.38MoggerJR_w: just remember that these are user managed and unofficial
18:29.19JR_wOK -- thanks Mogger
18:29.45JR_wThis is a variation of Kubuntu -- Linux Mint
18:29.46MoggerJR_w: hope it works out :)
18:30.32Moggerhm, not sure how it works then - you might want to search, or just try it out ;)
18:30.56Moggergoes afk
18:31.32JR_wMogger -- thanks for the help
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22:00.05PasNoxevening
22:00.17PasNoxwhy is knotify4 so much memory eating ?
22:00.31PasNox80mb of memory only for a notify lib ?
22:00.47PasNoxat start it's 19mb then it grow until 80 :/ very strange
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22:01.33cb400fyou have to be a kernel expert to interpret those numbers properly
22:01.53cb400funless your system is slow or swapping, don't worry about it... that's my advise :-)
22:02.13PasNoxmy systeme is quick at start ( event when i just start my apps )
22:02.23PasNoxand some hours later desktop start to slow down
22:02.37PasNoxwith the same apps open
22:03.08cb400fksysguard says 15 megs for knotify4 for me.. uptime is 14 hrs
22:04.46PasNoxit's approximativly the size i got at power on the computer
22:05.10PasNox:'(
22:05.15PasNoxkde 4.6 ?
22:05.20cb400fyep
22:05.54cb400fmaybe I don't have so many notifications.. do you have something that might spam knotify?
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22:06.13saintdev7204KB here
22:06.16saintdevshrugs
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22:10.15svuorelaPasNox: what tool do you use to get the memory usage ?
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22:11.57PasNoxcb400f: no i always try to minimize the notification by removing the default ones, like in kopete / konversation
22:12.18PasNoxsvuorela: the kde process viewer (Ctrl+Escape)
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22:13.02svuorelaok. that one should get approximate correct numbers (as opposed to top and ps)
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22:14.34ArGGu^^Hello can I open the application launcher that can be used in the desktop. Example right click on desktop. To be opened even I have cursor on window not the desktop?
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22:15.29ArGGu^^making it like global shortcut?
22:16.54ArGGu^^I just would want to have simple application launcher that I can open anywhere. So I do not need to click on desktop or open it from panel.
22:16.57cb400fglobal shortcut is alt+f1 ;-) ... though I'm not sure that's configured in 4.6 anymore.. wasn't for me
22:17.50ArGGu^^cb400f yeah but I would want the simpler application launcher and to open it where my cursor is
22:18.24cb400fand thus prevent you from using any application context menu, ever?
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22:21.35ArGGu^^cb400f I did not mean that I would want to be opened from right click. Of course I would configure it to some button that is not important in applications
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22:22.35ArGGu^^or maybe windows key or menu button from keyboard would good
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22:25.06cb400fhm.. you should learn to love kickoff or krunner I think :-)
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23:40.59kukmanHi. I have kde 4.6, wine and warcraft 3. If I run wc3 ( fullscreen, without virtual desktop ), I want to change workspaces ( from game on browser, for example )
23:41.12kukmanbut when I change workspace, I still see wacraft 3
23:41.30kukmanhowever, focus is lost from wc3.
23:41.45kukmanI can type something in terminal ( for example ), but I see wc3 on screen
23:42.06kukmanBesides, I can't return focus to wc3
23:42.18kukmanEarly I have XMonad, and all works fine
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23:51.03linuxkeitaronot here
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23:52.30Daskreechkukman: maybe #winehq ?
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23:55.17kukmanI think, this is problem of kwin
23:55.21kukmankwin is part of kde
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23:55.41kukmanlinuxkeitaro, Daskreech ^
23:55.56kukmanwith XMonad I didn't have this problems
23:56.18Daskreechkukman: #kwin then :)
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23:57.02kukmanok. thanks

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