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| 00:00.22 | setuid | How do I speed up the delay between right-click and the desktop menu being displayed? |
| 00:03.14 | thiago_home | it's immediate, or as far as the eye can see |
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| 00:13.11 | setuid | There's a measurable 100ms or so delay |
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| 00:14.02 | thiago_home | not here |
| 00:14.25 | thiago_home | and 100 ms is not measurable by the human hands or eyes |
| 00:16.10 | thiago_home | which application are you testing this on? |
| 00:16.53 | setuid | thiago_home, My laptop, and yes, 100ms is measurable... as my mouseover delay is 200ms, and the popup menu is not immediate, but is about 1/2 of that delay, so eyeballing it to be ~100ms |
| 00:18.41 | thiago_home | if you have desktop effects on, turn them off. |
| 00:18.48 | thiago_home | which application are you testing this on? |
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| 00:24.04 | thiago_home | time out, going to bed |
| 00:24.09 | setuid | They're off... unsupported on my laptop anyway, and they cause all kinds of weird problems with generic/basic themes and styles |
| 00:24.22 | setuid | "application"? Nowhere, just right-click on the desktop |
| 00:24.46 | setuid | Is there a way to add a menu, say one that is custom and appears with middle-click? |
| 00:25.41 | Sho_ | yes, see the Desktop Actions stuff in the settings dialog reachable from the desktop context menu |
| 00:25.47 | thiago_home | too late. You had 5 minutes to answer. Now I'm gone. |
| 00:25.49 | thiago_home | good night. |
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| 00:29.22 | setuid | Hahaha, a timer, that's great |
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| 00:48.45 | setuid | How can I move the panel to the top of the screen? |
| 00:48.55 | setuid | seems the Panel Properties doesn't have this, and I can't drag it |
| 00:49.03 | james147 | setuid: yes, open the panel settings and there is a button you can drag there |
| 00:49.05 | setuid | I unlocked all widgets and such, but it still has no option to move to the top |
| 00:49.27 | james147 | setuid: there is a button called "move" on the panel settings, click and drag that |
| 00:49.31 | Sho_ | Unlock widgets, bring up the panel configurator by clicking the toolbox icon at the end of the panel, then click and hold the "Screen Edge" button in the configurator and drag up |
| 00:49.39 | setuid | I can move it left and right, but not up or down |
| 00:50.04 | james147 | setuid: you should be able to, just drag your mouse to the top of the screen |
| 00:50.09 | setuid | Add Widgets | Add Spacer | More settings, nothing called 'mvoe' on that panel |
| 00:50.29 | james147 | ^^ ahh yeah, screen edge :_) |
| 00:50.36 | setuid | There's a button labeled "Height" which lets me stretch the panel's height, but not MOVE it to the top |
| 00:50.53 | james147 | setuid: the button next to that one ^^ |
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| 00:51.16 | Sho_ | The Screen Edge button I mentioned should be just to the left of the Height one |
| 00:51.31 | setuid | Nope, nothing next to that one... big space, then the 3 ones labeled "Add Widgets | Add Spacer | More settings" |
| 00:51.49 | setuid | ah, ok... that one |
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| 00:51.59 | setuid | clicking that seemed to "undock" the panel widgets |
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| 00:53.00 | setuid | I guess there's no way to get it to go to the absolute far corners, I can drag the width, but it's still 1-2px narrower than the screen width |
| 00:53.05 | setuid | leaves a small gap on the right and left sides of the panel |
| 00:53.27 | setuid | gnome-panel has a "maximize" style option that just goes end-to-end. Doesn't KDE's panel have somethign simialar? |
| 00:53.41 | Sho_ | Normally you can drag it to fill up the entire space |
| 00:54.02 | james147 | setuid: what version are you using? mine has a "maximise" button |
| 00:54.04 | Sho_ | There's the (remote) possibility that the theme might screw it up appearance-wise, but the default theme should do that fine |
| 00:54.34 | Sho_ | and yes, there's also a "Maximize Panel" button in the menu opened by "More Settings" |
| 00:54.36 | setuid | james147, How would I know what version? |
| 00:54.42 | Sho_ | but it can also be done by hand by dragging |
| 00:54.47 | james147 | setuid: any kde app > help > about kde |
| 00:55.35 | Sho_ | and btw, it's kind of getting annoying that we've been helping you with tons of issues for hours now and (a) you've yet to say thanks even once, (b) you keep insulting us with "I guess KDE can't do xyz" rhetoric when by now you experience should tell you that you're statistically more often than not wrong on that assumption |
| 00:55.47 | setuid | 4.5.95 |
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| 01:01.00 | james147 | setuid: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/01/24/plasma-desktopuv4329.jpg << there all the options you should have in 4.6rc ... |
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| 01:16.46 | wildnux | I cannot change the brightness after i left my machine for some time (powersave.. ) . It works on a fresh start, and after my system goes into powersave after 20 min, it lowers the brightness and stays that way, i tried echoing diff values in /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness, it has no effect. |
| 01:17.07 | wildnux | I also tried changing the brightness with sliders also.. |
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| 01:17.16 | wildnux | I also tried changing the brightness with fn keys also |
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| 02:07.50 | mase_wk | binaryhat: probably in the wallet |
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| 02:31.03 | mase_wk | afaik you can just delete them |
| 02:31.08 | mase_wk | seems to work for me |
| 02:31.26 | mase_wk | i just delete it and hit save |
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| 03:19.45 | setuid | How can I get KDE to save the screen resolution I set? |
| 03:20.03 | setuid | I choose "Set as default", but when X starts and KDE fires up, it's the same old 800x600 resolution again (vs. 1920x1200 that I select) |
| 03:21.20 | setuid | Seems there's no xorg.conf anymore? |
| 03:21.41 | james147 | setuid: you should ask your dirtro... and X no longer requires a xorg.conf file |
| 03:22.40 | setuid | Weird, because my other (current, but not beta/bleeding-edge) distros do use xorg.conf, it's the only way to get the right NVIDIA settings on most laptops |
| 03:23.02 | setuid | You have to configure it -somewhere-, so is there a "new" X config file, no longer named xorg.conf? |
| 03:23.14 | james147 | setuid: as i said, it no longer `requires` one, it can still use it |
| 03:23.37 | james147 | setuid: and again, you should ask your dirtro |
| 03:23.44 | setuid | Ok, sure, for basic, generic settings... just to get X working, I can see it would fall back on "safe" defaults, but nobody ever wants those |
| 03:24.05 | setuid | Well, this is really a KDE problem, it's not saving the display resolution I tell it to use, -inside KDE- |
| 03:24.16 | james147 | setuid: no, it now attempts to auto detect settings and most of the time gets i right |
| 03:24.26 | setuid | The lack of xorg.conf is just frosting, but KDE itself, changes the res, I save it as the default, and then KDE happily ignores it |
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| 03:42.20 | setuid | Is there a way to get windows that are opened, to open under the mouse? I don't see "Under mouse" as a placement option for new windows. |
| 03:42.45 | setuid | I'm trying to migrate from Sawfish to KDE, and I'm finding a lot of things I'm used to in Sawfish, missing from KDE, or not immediately obvious about how to find them. |
| 03:44.04 | setuid | And how do I get rid of that little quarter-hemisphere thing in the corner, the "Activities" little orb thing? |
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| 03:48.49 | Daskreech | setuid: in the top corner? |
| 03:49.13 | Daskreech | You could simply run sawfish as the window manager in KDE I think |
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| 03:53.12 | rushfan | Hey, when I use the fish:// kioslave in konqueror, is there anyway to autosync changes I make to files on the remote machine using a local editor? |
| 03:53.48 | rushfan | Basically I do all my development on a remote box w/ no X server running and it would be nice if I could do development locally w/ an X based editor and sync changes |
| 03:53.54 | james147 | you should use sftp instead of fish if you can |
| 03:54.27 | james147 | and as far as I know, should it save directy to the remote if you are editing over fish/sftp? |
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| 03:54.51 | rushfan | james147: First why is SFTP better than Fish? And no it doesnt seem to save directly to the romate. |
| 03:54.54 | rushfan | It just saves to a local temp file. |
| 03:55.53 | james147 | rushfan: from what i recall, fish was just a hack to do what sftp does back when sftp wasnt as good (could be wrong) but I do think sftp is more secure |
| 03:56.17 | setuid | sftp is wasteful, use rsync |
| 03:57.17 | james147 | rushfan: hmm, what editor are you using? kate seems to save to the remote here |
| 03:57.33 | rushfan | I guess the issue is SSH seems to be the onlu thing running on remote box |
| 03:57.45 | rushfan | james147: I'm using gvim. It must be an issue with the fact that gvim is not a KDE app |
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| 03:57.55 | rushfan | so Im sure it has no notion of the kioslave |
| 03:58.28 | james147 | rushfan: probally, kio's are only used be kde apps ^^ and need to be implmented if you want to use fish or sftp transparently |
| 03:58.36 | setuid | rsync uses ssh by default (or you can use RSYNC_RSH=ssh), and it's not sending the full file across.. sftp is like 'cp', wasteful if the remote end already has some of the file (i.e. updating existing files) |
| 03:58.37 | james147 | rushfan: but then... wy not ssh + vim? |
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| 04:00.37 | rushfan | james147: because gvim has nicer themes to look at ,etc. |
| 04:00.46 | james147 | lol |
| 04:00.48 | rushfan | believe it or not anti-aliased fonts make a difference after 10 hours a day |
| 04:01.06 | james147 | rushfan: dosent konsole have antialiased fonts? |
| 04:01.36 | rushfan | james147: I suppose it might |
| 04:01.46 | james147 | + you can change what vim looks like :) |
| 04:01.50 | rushfan | The other pain is that with gvim I can utilize my multiple monitors easily |
| 04:02.06 | rushfan | james147: I know but vims themes in the terminal are heavily dependant on the termiansl colors |
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| 04:02.24 | james147 | rushfan: then make sure you set up the terminal correctly :) |
| 04:02.27 | rushfan | I used to just use vim + konsole but after 10 hours a day small thigns make a big difference :| |
| 04:02.45 | james147 | prefures vim in konsole to gvim |
| 04:02.50 | rushfan | james147: yes but the trouble is on Monday I like blue themes and nice green themes on Tuesdays and on Fridays I prefer more reddish celebratory themes |
| 04:02.54 | rushfan | ok,..... now I'm just trolling lol sorry |
| 04:02.59 | rushfan | Anyhow I like the rsync idea |
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| 04:05.58 | rushfan | james147: setuid: thanks for the help |
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| 04:24.54 | Daskreech | rushfan: fish uses a perl script to do it's magic so it's feasible it won't work (that's a perl script on the computer you are going to) |
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| 05:00.31 | setuid | When I go to KDM config, I install a bunch of kdm themes, and when I click "Installed", they all show up there, but they're not showing up in the list of selectable themes... nor are they in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm... so where are they, and how do I activate them? |
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| 05:03.08 | james147 | setuid: you need to run that dialog as root (kdesudo kcmshell4 kdm (or kdesu) will do that) |
| 05:09.08 | setuid | Yep,t hat seems to hav edone it |
| 05:17.00 | setuid | I know with gdm there's a way to have it NOT list the usernames on the system... I don't see that option in KDM's config |
| 05:17.43 | james147 | setuid: use a different theme |
| 05:18.04 | setuid | Under the user's tab of the KDM config, I've unchecked the "Show list" option, but it still shows them in any theme I use |
| 05:19.39 | setuid | ...likewise for showing the password dots as I log in |
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| 06:26.01 | linar | hi to all |
| 06:26.21 | linar | i messed something with "desktop activities".. |
| 06:26.38 | linar | is there a way to return all to default ? |
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| 06:28.23 | caf4926 | linar: explain what you are seeing |
| 06:31.21 | caf4926 | linar: can you still access activities menu from the desktop |
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| 08:53.05 | feindbild | KMail stopped showing the email dates for an dimap account and I couldn't persuade it to. So I killed kmail, deleted kmailrc, deleted its apps dir in .kde and fired it up again, at which time I was greeted by error messages about write permissions for the index files of the old account O_o Now I restarted kde, re-entered the account data (corretly) but it won't fetch mail, it won't even show the folders and I don't ge |
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| 08:55.15 | Daskreech | #akonadi ? |
| 08:56.39 | feindbild | Daskreech: lol, well, how should I know if akonadi is responsibele? ^^ I just suspected it cause it's the usual suspect when something gets screwed up ... |
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| 11:52.48 | hyper_ch | hi there, for some reason, after reboot, kde shows a complete weird font / lanuage |
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| 11:53.23 | linar | I just installed dmenu, but I can't see it, everything looks normal.., in system activity dmenu is listed |
| 11:55.01 | hyper_ch | how can I change the font / language settings back? |
| 11:55.08 | thiago | hyper_ch: in system settings |
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| 11:55.16 | thiago | linar: what's dmenu? |
| 11:55.22 | hyper_ch | thiago: my problem is that I can't read anything in there |
| 11:56.40 | hyper_ch | thiago: can you navigate me through? |
| 11:56.52 | hyper_ch | http://images.sjau.ch/img/1eaf8fa0.png |
| 11:57.39 | pinotree | see the ONU flag |
| 11:58.07 | hyper_ch | pinotree: you mean me? |
| 11:58.11 | pinotree | yes |
| 11:58.22 | hyper_ch | in there |
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| 11:59.17 | hyper_ch | pinotree: now what? |
| 11:59.34 | pinotree | same ONU flag |
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| 12:00.31 | hyper_ch | http://images.sjau.ch/img/6eb0636b.png |
| 12:01.27 | pinotree | hm, your country looks swissh already |
| 12:02.10 | hyper_ch | I think the problem is the font somehow |
| 12:02.25 | hyper_ch | when I opened to upload dialog box for uploading the screenshot it was fine |
| 12:02.33 | hyper_ch | but the interface is all messed up |
| 12:03.38 | hyper_ch | maybe restart kde? |
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| 12:04.30 | pinotree | nothing potentially suspicious in the xorg log? |
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| 12:06.04 | sxe | hey guys, can someone explain me how to search for tags i have added to my files using nepomuk? |
| 12:06.54 | sxe | the filter panel makes no sense to me at all |
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| 12:10.59 | hyper_ch | pinotree: I found the reason - sort of.... when I bootup it's fine... but as soon as I change the resolution of the external monitor |
| 12:11.05 | hyper_ch | it gets that weird |
| 12:12.16 | hyper_ch | you know a screenrecorder app for kde? |
| 12:14.38 | sxe | hyper_ch: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/RecordItNow?content=114610 |
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| 12:16.19 | hyper_ch | sorry, can't read anything now |
| 12:16.22 | hyper_ch | it's all weird |
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| 12:45.32 | hyper_ch | pinotree: you were right... it was xserver that cause problems... I reverted to a previous package of it and now it works again |
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| 13:14.14 | gergap | hi |
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| 13:15.12 | gergap | I'm trying to find a way to import a new CA certificate in KDE4.5.5, but I don't find a configuration dialog in konqueror or system settings? Does anyone know how to do that? |
| 13:16.31 | cmot | Yodel! |
| 13:16.47 | cmot | Dolphin in 4.5.3 can't rename files with illegal unicode chars in the filename |
| 13:16.52 | cmot | is this fixed in 4.6? |
| 13:16.59 | cmot | Or should I report a bug? |
| 13:17.23 | cmot | (somebody apparently stored a filename on NFS and had it mounted with latin1) |
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| 13:25.02 | cmot | Ah. #165044 |
| 13:27.11 | cmot | old, old, bug. sad story. WONTFIX because of technical limitations / some wrong design decisions in KDE + Qt. |
| 13:27.22 | cmot | Even worse: apparently KDE 3 could handle this situation. |
| 13:28.21 | cmot | won't go to gnome or KDE 3 because of this, but then, he knows how to use a console. Other users don't, and some of them will be first time linux users seeing this on the first usb stick they'll ever user. conclusion: linux is crap. |
| 13:29.28 | gergap | cmot: use conmv to convert file name encodings |
| 13:29.42 | gergap | cmot: typo: convmv |
| 13:29.47 | cmot | gergap: that's not the issue. |
| 13:30.01 | cmot | *I* know perfectly well how to solve the problem. |
| 13:30.39 | cmot | But hey, it's 2011, I'd really expect KDE to be able to deal with this problem. It's not something that will go away if we ignore it long enough |
| 13:30.55 | gergap | cmot: I don't think it's a kde problem. |
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| 13:31.31 | cmot | yes it is |
| 13:32.00 | cmot | for the user it is. and kde refuses to deal with it for ages. have you had a look in #165044? |
| 13:32.16 | gergap | cmot: Yesterday I had a simalar problem using MythTV (based on Qt). The problem was the the native language support in the kernel for the codec was missing. After adding this in the kernel MythTv was able to handle filenames with different codec. |
| 13:32.53 | cmot | gergap: I can deal with these files on the console (both text and konsole), so it's not a kernel problem |
| 13:33.29 | cmot | It's a qt/kde problem. |
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| 13:34.14 | gergap | cmot: mom, I'll try to reproduce it here |
| 13:34.47 | cmot | gergap: see the bug I quoted, there's a tar attached which contains files with broken encodings |
| 13:34.49 | cmot | that should helüp |
| 13:35.21 | cmot | opening an xterm under LC_CTYPE=de_DE would be another way that should do it. |
| 13:37.48 | gergap | cmot: you are right. It says 'file xxx does not exist" when renaming. I'm pretty sure that worked already in older versions. |
| 13:37.56 | cmot | worked in kde 4 |
| 13:38.03 | cmot | eh, 3, i mean |
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| 13:38.15 | cmot | not sure: does it work in GNOME? |
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| 13:38.31 | glenn | What is the best way to use a usb hd |
| 13:38.38 | cmot | (perhaps somebody can get some motivation for fixing it if it does... :-) |
| 13:39.02 | cmot | glenn: don't understand your question. just plug it in, a properly configured desktop should pop up a notification |
| 13:40.01 | gergap | cmot: I'm not a kde dev, but maybe write a new bug on dolphin. The guys will hopefully move the bug to the right person ;-) |
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| 13:47.43 | cmot | gergap: have you counted how many bugs have been closed as duplicates? I doubt this will be successful |
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| 13:48.27 | Kolia | hi |
| 13:48.41 | Kolia | is there anyway to set a picture as desktop background from gwenview? |
| 13:49.23 | glenn | what for picture is it |
| 13:50.25 | glenn | cmot only dophine can access the usb openoffice not |
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| 14:12.55 | cmot | glenn: do you have an error message? |
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| 14:14.03 | glenn | cmot no |
| 14:14.24 | glenn | thy have been monted to see in openoffice |
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| 14:40.40 | CappY_BG | hey.... its GPU related or KDE related problem.... sometimes decoration of current windows dissapear, sometimes only the X or Minimise or Restore Button, sometimes its okay |
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| 15:47.26 | duytruong | hello |
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| 15:47.54 | duytruong | i'm fan of Fedora |
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| 16:40.33 | The_User | hi |
| 16:40.47 | The_User | any idea how to check if a window is still there in kwinscripting? |
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| 17:01.42 | pulaski | Hello, I have an amd64 box on which I run kubuntu 10.10 and kde 4.5.95. The default amarok package is 2.3.90. When I run amarok it does not recognize and will not play an audio cd from my drive. Can anyone else who has had this experience offer a comment? |
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| 17:04.37 | Wizard | pulaski: i can check it at wednesday |
| 17:04.38 | Wizard | :P |
| 17:05.01 | Wizard | oh no, i can't, i have lts on that laptop :/ |
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| 17:05.29 | pulaski | Wizard: Thanks for responding. A person over in #amarok told me that audio cd support is broken in kubuntu on kde4.6. Do you know if this is the case? |
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| 17:06.13 | Wizard | pulaski: yeah, it may be |
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| 17:06.37 | Wizard | but i'm not sure where kubuntu takes sources from and what patches do they apply |
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| 17:17.33 | avilla | hello! i'm testing activities in 4.6 and they're proving to be amazing and very useful. i have only one question about apps in the system tray: how do they behave? e.g. konversation closes when i close the activities it is open in, but it looks like i can't get the same result with e.g. kopete.. |
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| 17:42.07 | lamiska | hello, can anybody help me, how to change units in hardware temperature plasmoid, it shows in F but i want C, i have KDE 4.5.5 on Arch linux, thx |
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| 17:47.05 | R4md4c | Hello, I need a good IDE that could help me to develop a plasmoid. |
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| 17:47.26 | R4md4c | KDevelop is running too slow at my laptop |
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| 17:49.39 | junkDawgie | lamiska: i've wondered about that also, and the only thing i've seen that might do what you are asking is to change the systemsettings>locale>Ctry/Reg/Lang>Other(tab)>MeasurementSys from Imperial to Metric.... and this would change everything, not just temperature. |
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| 17:51.56 | junkDawgie | R4md4c: seems like there is a dev package called Plasmate(?) specifically for creating plasma objects.... i'd give you a link but i've only noticed the conversation about it here, don't actually use it. I think there is information about it on the kde.org website. |
| 17:54.36 | lamiska | junkDawgie: thx |
| 17:55.17 | junkDawgie | :) not a solution, but your welcome. |
| 17:55.32 | R4md4c | junkDawgie: Ok i have found it at KDE TechBase |
| 17:55.51 | junkDawgie | good luck, R4 |
| 17:56.01 | R4md4c | junkDawgie:Thanks a lot |
| 17:56.56 | junkDawgie | if you need help, there is others in #plasma i think that you can speak with. |
| 17:57.47 | R4md4c | junkDawgie: thanks again that will surely help me |
| 17:58.21 | junkDawgie | you might create a plasmoid i can't live without, go man go.. :) |
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| 17:58.28 | feng | wow |
| 17:58.30 | feng | more people :) |
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| 18:00.50 | feng | is there anyone using PulseAudio on kde4 ? ( using Archlinux maybe ? :D ) |
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| 18:02.10 | junkDawgie | i'm sure some are, feng.... i tried but my creative card driver was not compatible..... ask away |
| 18:02.33 | feng | damn |
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| 18:02.55 | feng | i'm trying use my bluetooth headset for input device |
| 18:03.07 | feng | but phonon don't support it well obviously |
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| 18:04.38 | feng | junkDawgie: |
| 18:06.28 | junkDawgie | bluetooth problem perhaps? |
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| 18:07.37 | junkDawgie | feng: do you have an additional wired mic to check that the functionality is available? |
| 18:07.50 | feng | I have my webcam mic |
| 18:07.55 | feng | and it works fine |
| 18:08.01 | feng | horrible sound, but works fine |
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| 18:08.19 | feng | first thing is : I see the bluetooth device in Skype |
| 18:08.29 | feng | but not in alsaconf |
| 18:09.40 | junkDawgie | we are beyond the scope of my text, i haven't used any bluetooth devices personally, but my first impression is that the problem lies there |
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| 18:14.04 | feng | hum something is weird |
| 18:14.43 | feng | skype sound is now awesome (so bluetooth is working), but I cant configure the output device |
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| 18:19.48 | belak | Where should I ask about the bindings for taglib? |
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| 18:20.07 | belak | I thought it was related to kde, but that's all I know about it |
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| 18:22.22 | feng | ok new fact : with just |
| 18:22.25 | feng | pcm.bluetooth { |
| 18:22.26 | feng | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.28 | feng | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.29 | feng | } |
| 18:22.31 | feng | in my .asoundrc |
| 18:22.42 | feng | nothing works, my bluetooth headset excepted |
| 18:23.28 | feng | if I add : |
| 18:23.34 | feng | pcm.pulse { |
| 18:23.36 | feng | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.37 | feng | } |
| 18:23.39 | feng | ctl.pulse { |
| 18:23.40 | feng | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.42 | feng | } |
| 18:23.48 | feng | everything works my headset excepted |
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| 18:28.32 | b_jonas | In Konqueror, how do I turn off spellchecking html textareas? |
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| 18:29.06 | b_jonas | There's a "Configure Spell Checking" dialog, but I don't see an obvious way to disable it completely. |
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| 18:29.38 | b_jonas | This is Konqueror 3.5.9 (Using KDE 3.5.10) |
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| 19:08.16 | Inso`leet | hello there |
| 19:08.16 | Inso`leet | is there anyone really skilled with Qt ? |
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| 19:09.32 | annma | #qt Inso`leet |
| 19:09.44 | james147 | Inso`leet: you should just ask your question rather then trying to find some one who might know.... but #qt would be a better place to ask |
| 19:10.04 | Inso`leet | okay |
| 19:10.12 | Inso`leet | i'm joining #qt so :p |
| 19:10.34 | annma | and in #qt just ask your question |
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| 19:48.52 | avilla | hello! i'm testing activities in 4.6 and they're proving to be amazing and very useful. i have only one question about apps in the system tray: how do they behave? e.g. konversation closes when i close the activities it is open in, but it looks like i can't get the same result with e.g. kopete.. |
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| 19:50.43 | annma | how do you close an activity?* |
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| 19:51.15 | einar77 | avilla: technically all applications in an activity stop and restart when you stop and restart an activity |
| 19:51.26 | einar77 | the support is in in KDE's session manager, ksmserver |
| 19:51.39 | avilla | annma: in the activity manager, use the stop button |
| 19:51.50 | avilla | einar77: i guessed that, but it doesn't work for kopete |
| 19:52.18 | einar77 | avilla: notice that this is "generic" support - a specific interface for applications hasn't been dveloped yet |
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| 19:52.28 | avilla | oh, ok |
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| 19:52.53 | einar77 | specific in the sense, a way for apps to "know" in which activity they are in |
| 19:53.03 | avilla | yes, i understand |
| 19:53.06 | einar77 | (right now KDE keeps track of them, but apps themselves aren't aware) |
| 19:53.14 | avilla | yes, i know that |
| 19:53.31 | avilla | just thought this specific support had to be handled generically only |
| 19:53.43 | avilla | but it's not a problem, activities are being great anyway |
| 19:54.33 | avilla | thank you |
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| 20:15.26 | ct529 | hi! I am compiling kde from source .... |
| 20:15.55 | annma | cool |
| 20:15.56 | ct529 | I have libattica the right version in /usr/local/include, but cmake keep finding the old one in /usr/include |
| 20:16.06 | ct529 | how do I point cmake to the right one? |
| 20:16.23 | ct529 | I did LIBATTICA_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/local/include LIBATTICA_LIBRARIES=/usr/local/lib/libattica.so cmake .. |
| 20:16.44 | ct529 | plus many other attempt, but could not solve the problem :-( |
| 20:16.48 | b_jonas | ct529: wild guess: did you try ./configure --help |
| 20:16.49 | ct529 | hi annma! |
| 20:17.06 | ct529 | b_jonas: since when does ./configure --help work with cmake???? |
| 20:17.56 | ct529 | I have also tried exporting the LD_LIBRARY_PATH before cmaking, but withou solving the problem |
| 20:18.03 | annma | ct529: try adding export CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=$KDEDIR in env vars |
| 20:18.09 | annma | hmm no |
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| 20:18.31 | annma | as /usr/local is maybe not your $KDEDIR |
| 20:18.45 | ct529 | annma: no, that would not work .... I am installing in parallel |
| 20:19.00 | annma | where |
| 20:19.05 | ct529 | annma: I have already compiled kdesupport, and I am now compiling ldelibs |
| 20:19.16 | annma | I am installing in /usr/local/trunk |
| 20:19.20 | annma | and? |
| 20:19.28 | ct529 | annma: so the main kde 453 is in /usr |
| 20:19.29 | annma | where do you install kdesupport |
| 20:19.37 | ct529 | annma: I want to install into /usr/local |
| 20:19.42 | annma | we're talking about trunk here |
| 20:19.49 | ct529 | annma: /usr/local |
| 20:19.50 | annma | so OK do as I said |
| 20:19.52 | ct529 | annma: yes, we are |
| 20:20.24 | annma | if you install your trunk in /usr/loca then you can set the env var as I said |
| 20:20.28 | ct529 | annma: so I should set KDEDIR to /usr/local? |
| 20:20.34 | annma | sure |
| 20:20.46 | annma | and set the CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH |
| 20:20.46 | ct529 | annma: what happens when I try to run kde 453? |
| 20:21.06 | annma | you need different scripts to run each of them |
| 20:21.14 | ct529 | annma: yes .... |
| 20:21.47 | ct529 | annma: but I would like to have the "standard" script left untouched, because it si production machine |
| 20:22.00 | annma | what is the standard script |
| 20:22.17 | annma | ct529: why do yo ubuild trunk if you don't want to use it? |
| 20:22.22 | ct529 | annma: the startx script |
| 20:22.26 | ct529 | annma: debugging |
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| 20:22.34 | annma | the startx script is not affected |
| 20:22.38 | annma | debugging what |
| 20:22.51 | ct529 | annma: the last version of 46? |
| 20:23.00 | annma | but what in KDE |
| 20:23.10 | ct529 | annma: the whole lot .... |
| 20:23.13 | annma | do you want to run plasma for example? to run apps? |
| 20:23.23 | annma | trunk is 4.7 by the way |
| 20:23.28 | ct529 | annma: I want to use it in the evening, so that I can start submitting bugs |
| 20:23.43 | ct529 | annma: but during the day I want to keep using 453 |
| 20:23.47 | ct529 | annma: for work |
| 20:23.49 | annma | so |
| 20:23.55 | annma | how do yo uplan this |
| 20:24.33 | ct529 | annma: I wanted to install everything in /usr/local, with a script called startkde46 that launched kde from console |
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| 20:24.59 | annma | so you need a script |
| 20:25.00 | ct529 | annma: in the evening, I log as console only, and launch the startkde46 script |
| 20:25.20 | annma | and when you build, you also have a script, no? |
| 20:25.35 | ct529 | annma: in what sense? |
| 20:26.05 | ct529 | annma: I am only worried about overwriting existing stuff, or creating calls to new librarues from the stable installtion I have |
| 20:26.12 | annma | in settings install dir for example |
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| 20:26.30 | annma | if you never build as root you cannot overwrite things |
| 20:26.30 | ct529 | annma: that is the only worry, sorry if it sounds a bit strange :-) |
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| 20:26.42 | ct529 | annma: well, I install as root |
| 20:26.47 | annma | OUCH |
| 20:26.52 | annma | you're doing it all wrong |
| 20:27.06 | ct529 | annma: I build as normal used then I sudo make install |
| 20:27.16 | annma | you're going straight into big problems |
| 20:27.23 | annma | you don't need to sudo |
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| 20:27.54 | annma | it's not at all what we advise |
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| 20:28.15 | ct529 | annma: I do cmake .. as normal user, ake as normal user, then to install I need to sudo make install .... normally .... what do you suggest? |
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| 20:29.05 | annma | I suggest you install as normal user in a dir which has your user write rights |
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| 20:29.21 | annma | in fact the suggested way is to use kdescrc-build script |
| 20:29.38 | ct529 | annma: ok |
| 20:29.45 | annma | considering the move to git |
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| 20:30.08 | annma | and be aware that trunk is not 4.6 but the beginning of 4.7 and is unstable |
| 20:30.59 | ct529 | annma: what do yuo mean considering the move to git? I am using svn at the moment |
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| 20:31.12 | ct529 | annma: I thought the trunk was 46 RC2 .... |
| 20:31.13 | annma | I mean some stuff is in git already |
| 20:31.25 | annma | some kdesupport stuff is in git |
| 20:31.36 | annma | no trunk is 4.7 and 4.6 is in a branch |
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| 20:33.10 | annma | attica is in git for example |
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| 20:34.19 | ct529 | annma: yes, I got attica from there |
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| 20:34.34 | ct529 | annma: so, kdesupport is not all in svn? |
| 20:34.38 | annma | no |
| 20:34.47 | ct529 | annma: oh no .... |
| 20:35.01 | ct529 | annma: the doc on the website is somewhat confusing |
| 20:35.08 | annma | that's why using an up-to-date script is smart |
| 20:35.23 | annma | the doc on the website is as OK as it can be |
| 20:36.10 | annma | considering that I maintain it! |
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| 20:38.31 | ct529 | annma: yes, but for example .... I just svn's the script you suggested following the doc .... and it returns an error |
| 20:38.50 | annma | what error |
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| 20:38.58 | annma | and what script exactly |
| 20:39.11 | annma | the kdesrc-build one? |
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| 21:45.38 | bhargava | Using Kubuntu(10.04)/Kde(4.4.5) : need help using the Kate edior and CTags plugin |
| 21:46.21 | bhargava | It creats tags but the tags are not populated by default |
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| 21:48.27 | moses | what program does KDE use to configure networks? |
| 21:48.38 | thiago_home | none |
| 21:48.39 | saidinesh5 | moses: as in? |
| 21:48.42 | moses | like a command i can type in a console to run it |
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| 21:48.45 | thiago_home | the distribution does that |
| 21:48.49 | moses | ok |
| 21:48.54 | moses | whats debians then |
| 21:48.54 | moses | ? |
| 21:48.54 | thiago_home | please check with your distribution |
| 21:49.00 | moses | ok |
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| 21:57.50 | moses | doesnt KDE have some GUI network config/manager? |
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| 22:00.36 | thiago_home | KDE has a front end for NetworkManager |
| 22:00.43 | thiago_home | but that requires your distro using NM |
| 22:00.44 | thiago_home | does it? |
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| 22:01.07 | moses | well i installed KDE |
| 22:01.15 | moses | i just want to run the network manager now |
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| 22:02.56 | t\zz | hi people! always when i log into kde my plasma-desktop starts only partial: i get the panels but no free placed plasmoids. the wallpapers of my two monitors are interchanged. i then have to kill plasma and restart it to get the full plasma desktop. if i kill it again and restart it, i again get only the partial desktop. so every second thime it works, every other time it doesn't. what could be the issue? thanks |
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| 22:03.34 | dive | I've been having a strange thing for a little while now in kopete. Whenever I get a notification bubble up it says something like '<qt>Icoming message from Fred</br>bla bla bla</qt> |
| 22:03.53 | dive | How can I get rid of the <qt> tags? |
| 22:05.25 | dive | qt-4.7.0 kopete 1.0.80 kde 4.5.3 |
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