| 00:00.13 | Gentoochild | I'm not entirely sure whether KPlato is the right thing for this, since we're not managing a project. But I'll have a look at it |
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| 00:00.43 | Gentoochild | if we can't find any other thing, the last solution would be a *cough* spreadsheet |
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| 00:42.23 | pbunbun | Hey guys, just wondering if any of you had specific recommendations for a KDE distro? Was thinking of Fedora, anyone have any opinions? |
| 00:44.35 | leo_rockway | pbunbun: I like Arch. |
| 00:45.31 | pbunbun | I've been using Arch for ages, I like it too, but just wiped my disk and figured I'll try something new :P |
| 00:45.53 | pbunbun | If I don't like whatever i try I probably will go back to Arch |
| 00:46.33 | leo_rockway | pbunbun: I don't recommend Kubuntu... |
| 00:46.47 | leo_rockway | I heard Mandriva and opensuse are good, but I never tried them myself. |
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| 00:47.39 | pbunbun | Yeah I didn't really like Kubuntu, can't put my finger on a single reason for it, just overall shittiness :P, I use OpenSuse all day in college and don't really like it, though that's with Gnome, might give Mandriva a go if not Fedora |
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| 00:49.30 | verbalshadow | pbunbun: have you looked at chakra yet? its a arch derivative and focused on KDE SC |
| 00:50.14 | leo_rockway | I like Chakra, but it's too close to Arch for me to consider it a different distro, really... |
| 00:50.36 | pbunbun | I have, but site says it's still in Alpha so not entirely sure whether or not it'd be stable enough or anything >.> |
| 00:50.57 | verbalshadow | leo_rockway: we have are own repos now, so we not based on arch anymore |
| 00:51.16 | leo_rockway | verbalshadow: oh, I stopped using Chakra a few months ago. cool! |
| 00:51.36 | verbalshadow | pbunbun: i been using it for months no issues for me |
| 00:51.36 | leo_rockway | I didn't know what was going to happen to KDE-mod, so I moved on to Arch |
| 00:51.49 | leo_rockway | verbalshadow: the installer of Chakra is amazing! |
| 00:53.03 | pbunbun | May go with Chakra then, reading now :P |
| 00:53.44 | verbalshadow | leo_rockway: yeah i agree and work on it continues, like now you don't have to install and then fill in user info |
| 00:54.01 | pbunbun | Don't really get the bundles thing, says it doesn't need to install anything, then the page describing it says it installs dependencies on first run :/ |
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| 00:54.02 | leo_rockway | verbalshadow: I think it's the best installer I have seen on any distro so far. |
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| 00:55.57 | verbalshadow | pbunbun: bundle happen for non-Qt/KDE software like Firefox, OOo, etc |
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| 00:57.38 | verbalshadow | bundles are like OSX package basically |
| 00:58.22 | pbunbun | Oh right, so you have all the "core" stuff and the Qt/KDE stuff in the repos, which is installed as needed, and anything else (any GTK stuff, for example), is in the bundle? |
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| 00:59.10 | verbalshadow | pbunbun: that is the basics of it yup |
| 00:59.27 | pbunbun | Ah right, sounds interesting :P |
| 01:02.11 | tyrok | Hi! Got a question about KDE 4.5.1 on Ubuntu 10.10: I have one panel (at the bottom of my right screen in a dual-screen setup). Where is the configuration file for the on-screen location of the panel? (I'm trying to build a couple desktop setups that can be switched programmatically via a boot script.) |
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| 01:02.21 | ryan_ | hello |
| 01:03.08 | ryan_ | I used git to get "bluedevil" for bluetooth and I'm unable to install it |
| 01:03.27 | ryan_ | does any one know how to install the apps from gitorious? |
| 01:07.02 | javier_ | ryan_: you distro doesn't provide packages of it? |
| 01:07.42 | javier_ | ryan_: ./configure && make && make install probably. check the README |
| 01:07.59 | ryan_ | javier_: no, I'm using fedora...it's been approved but they haven't packaged it yet |
| 01:08.32 | ryan_ | didn't see a reame file...I looked for it |
| 01:09.55 | ryan_ | http://gitorious.org/bluedevil |
| 01:10.22 | ryan_ | here's the source tree http://gitorious.org/bluedevil/bluedevil/trees/master |
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| 01:15.15 | BarkingFish | Morning all :) |
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| 01:16.24 | BarkingFish | How do I switch autolearn on? |
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| 02:29.18 | diegoviola | hi |
| 02:29.23 | diegoviola | my kde gets too slow after a while |
| 02:29.27 | diegoviola | with kwin composite disabled |
| 02:29.29 | diegoviola | archlinux |
| 02:29.49 | diegoviola | i have to restart everything |
| 02:29.52 | diegoviola | to make it usable again |
| 02:35.16 | junkDawgie | diegoviola: i haven't heard any discussions about memory leaks... but there has been talk about the nvidia driver having some problems... your gpu fall into that category? |
| 02:35.47 | diegoviola | i have nvidia |
| 02:35.52 | diegoviola | i'll try with the nouveau driver |
| 02:35.56 | diegoviola | thx |
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| 02:36.17 | junkDawgie | you might check the nvidia forums... apparently they are working on it in the latestest releases |
| 02:36.19 | diegoviola | shitty nvidia driver |
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| 02:37.36 | Yuking | When kwin starts, it shows "QPixmap::handle(): Pixmap is not an X11 class pixmap" many many times. Why? |
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| 02:39.45 | n9nu | nv oem driver is fixed |
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| 03:31.57 | shashi_irc | In KDE4, if i add items (applications) to the Desktop, the items are now showing on the desktop in a proper order, and if i right-click on the desktop, i did not see any options like "arrange by name, arrange by type, etc...". Please anyone tell me how to auto arrange the items on the desktop ? |
| 03:36.04 | N9NU | make sure your desktop is in the 'folder view' settings mode..... |
| 03:36.11 | N9NU | and not the 'desktop' mode |
| 03:38.00 | N9NU | right click on desktop------->bottom option-----Folder view settings-----choose 'Folder View' |
| 03:38.34 | N9NU | from there you can edit 'mouse options' to click and change desktop modes as well |
| 03:45.32 | shashi_irc | Thank you N9NU. This solved my problem. |
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| 03:45.57 | N9NU | yup |
| 03:46.20 | N9NU | you would think 'Desktop' would be the correct choice :) |
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| 04:12.27 | N9NU | KDE desktop GRID view <----sexi |
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| 04:55.03 | diegoviola | after switching to the nouveau driver KDE stopped being slow |
| 04:55.07 | diegoviola | i was using nvidia |
| 04:55.14 | diegoviola | and kde was crashing, getting slower, etc |
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| 04:55.52 | Huskypaw | My taskbar in KDE is not showing anymore? |
| 04:56.00 | Huskypaw | Can't start any programs anymore? |
| 04:56.01 | Huskypaw | Plese? |
| 04:57.19 | Yuking | Huskypaw: you can add it to the panel by right-clicking on the panel |
| 04:57.34 | Huskypaw | Right click disabled ;( |
| 04:58.10 | Huskypaw | but ctrl + alt + remove works |
| 04:59.16 | Yuking | Huskypaw: or you can reset it by removing .kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
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| 05:03.18 | Yuking | It seems no |
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| 05:26.26 | Huskypaw | Is there a key combination to restart kde desktop? |
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| 05:38.56 | inkjetunit | hmm. i wish konqueror had better javascript support (as in disabling it :) |
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| 05:48.18 | Luis_ | buenas |
| 05:49.01 | Luis_ | como andan gente recien termine de instalar desktopbsd y estoy probando esto |
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| 07:22.01 | Huskypaw | Hey, my KDE screen stays black after I emerged (compiled) OpenOffice, which pulled some packages in. System reports no broken links.. |
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| 07:23.47 | Huskypaw | My mouse pointer is frozen and sometimes I can see the Wallpaper, with right click disabled and taskbar gone! |
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| 08:17.53 | carl- | i thought that with kde 4.5 kwin and things was optimized .. its feels almost 10 times slower than gnome with compiz .. |
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| 08:19.02 | carl- | when i switch workspace there is a 0.5 seconds delay . as if it takes 0.5 secs for the signal from the keyboard to be processed in to the command . and then it reacts with a speed that almost shows frame by frame animations |
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| 09:27.55 | root | Sysinfo for 'martin.': FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE running , , HD: 5/27GB, , 70 proc's, |
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| 09:33.06 | ikrabbe | Using korganizer 4.4.7, KDE 4.5.2, Qt: 4.7.1 (just updating, but this will still take some time): Problem was in the versions before too: |
| 09:33.06 | ikrabbe | I often want to plan an Event with several attendees and request them to confirm the appointment, using mutt as my mail program |
| 09:34.35 | ikrabbe | when I know receive the ics answer with the line METHOD:REPLY -of course- and I open "korganizer merge.ics" to merge in the reply, the appointment within korganizer will be replaced completely |
| 09:34.47 | ikrabbe | that is not what I want, obviously |
| 09:35.28 | ikrabbe | does anyone here know a method to control korganizer from the command line to merge in the reply in the correct way (dbus message or kind of?) |
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| 09:35.56 | Guest3304 | :-)ä¸ç¥éå |
| 09:36.35 | ikrabbe | ok |
| 09:37.00 | annma | ikrabbe: maybe try #kontact |
| 09:37.09 | annma | or the KDE forum |
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| 09:38.55 | comawhite | it's Jucato !!!! |
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| 09:41.13 | Jucato | where?!?!!? |
| 09:41.15 | Jucato | >.> |
| 09:41.17 | Jucato | <.< |
| 09:43.10 | comawhite | lol |
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| 09:43.36 | ikrabbe | ^^ |
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| 09:52.07 | sxe | hey guys, i have a strange problem. I lost my icq password and kopete is the only place where it is saved. i cannot get it back by receiving a new password from icq.com cause my account it to old. Is there a way the get my password back from the kopete config? |
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| 09:53.13 | comawhite | sxe, did you use kwallet? |
| 09:53.21 | sxe | nop |
| 09:53.26 | comawhite | if you did you can open it and get the password |
| 09:53.56 | sxe | its saved in the kopete conf but its encrypted |
| 09:54.26 | comawhite | sxe, well you'd have to look at the kopete source code and see how it's encrypted to decrypt it |
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| 09:54.54 | sxe | hm, i think i'm not able to do it ;) |
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| 10:59.12 | Huskypaw | My KDE won't start properly anymore. All I can see is the desktop wallpaper, without taskbar and right click disabled. Sometimes not even the wallpaper! All I did was emerge OpenOffice, which pulled some packages in itself.. |
| 11:00.07 | cb400f | sounds like something you should talk to gentooists about |
| 11:00.27 | cb400f | of course you can always try to nuke your plasma settings |
| 11:00.36 | cb400f | but the problem sounds deeper |
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| 11:09.55 | xaphir | Huskypaw: you might try a failsafe startup and then save the settings. |
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| 11:13.57 | sxe | can someone give me a hint whats going on here: http://pastebin.com/6aVHmg5E |
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| 11:25.10 | Huskypaw | xaphir: A failsafe startup, how do I do that? |
| 11:25.47 | xaphir | Huskypaw: not sure on gentoo, but it's an option on Fedora when the KDE setup files get hosed |
| 11:25.48 | xaphir | sec |
| 11:25.58 | Huskypaw | Oh. |
| 11:26.26 | Huskypaw | Reemerging kdelibs and kdepimlibs right now, hope that helps.. Also unmerged kde-phonon. |
| 11:27.05 | hellnest | anyone here use chakra distro? |
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| 11:29.05 | xaphir | Huskypaw: I think you have a config file problem, not a lib thing |
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| 11:30.07 | Huskypaw | xaphir: Isn't there a file KDE stores its messages? A Logfile? |
| 11:30.48 | xaphir | Huskypaw: I never looked, but I know there's a way to get KDE to reinitialize it's config files to default |
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| 11:35.20 | xaphir | Huskypaw: this is a longshot, but you might be able to get kde to go into failsafe by hitting F1 when it's loading |
| 11:35.43 | Huskypaw | I'm gonna try that one out, thanks. |
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| 11:36.54 | Huskypaw | Well I'm in failsafe mode xaphir and still my right click doesn't work. All I see is an xterm.. |
| 11:37.06 | xaphir | did it tell you failsafe? |
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| 11:37.41 | xaphir | Huskypaw: try cntrl-enter at login from kdm |
| 11:37.45 | Huskypaw | No, I just selected the option 'failsafe' and logged in. |
| 11:38.01 | Huskypaw | I can start xchat from this xterm there. |
| 11:38.02 | xaphir | you shouldn't be seeing that, it's abnormal |
| 11:38.08 | Huskypaw | An xterm? |
| 11:38.19 | xaphir | if that's all you have, afaik |
| 11:38.24 | xaphir | I get the whole gui |
| 11:38.27 | xaphir | menu and all |
| 11:38.29 | Huskypaw | All I have, right click disabled.. |
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| 11:50.32 | Huskypaw | Hey merging kdelibs failed! |
| 11:51.09 | Huskypaw | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/291979/ |
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| 12:03.28 | bluesceada_ | hmmm |
| 12:03.41 | bluesceada_ | is there some "busy" indicator in dolphin? |
| 12:04.07 | bluesceada_ | would be nice to see when accessing sftp, smb, etc. .. network stuff |
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| 12:05.25 | comawhite | bluesceada_, i haven't noticed, usually when i connect to smb, ftp it loads instantly for me |
| 12:05.41 | bluesceada_ | yeh when the remote side is so fast ;-D |
| 12:05.45 | comawhite | bluesceada_, there is notications via task bar |
| 12:05.56 | bluesceada_ | hmm? dont see them |
| 12:06.21 | bluesceada_ | it didnt notify me when it finished loading... |
| 12:06.23 | comawhite | click the 'i' icon |
| 12:06.36 | bluesceada_ | dont have that |
| 12:06.43 | bluesceada_ | (as i dont got a notification) |
| 12:07.05 | comawhite | hmm |
| 12:07.15 | comawhite | dolphin doesn't have knotifications :S |
| 12:07.20 | bluesceada_ | yeh but i also switched some off, because other stuff was disturbing me |
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| 12:07.34 | bluesceada_ | it's a bit of a notification overload if all is enabled |
| 12:07.46 | bluesceada_ | i want to work and not click "x" of notifications |
| 12:08.10 | comawhite | ya |
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| 12:08.36 | bluesceada_ | but i think some programs flash the taskbar, so the program will be with a white (instead of black in my case..) to know something happened in the program |
| 12:08.51 | bluesceada_ | white background i wanted to say... |
| 12:09.32 | comawhite | hmm idk, maybe someone else can help you with dolphin (I haven't really paid much attention to dolphins features) |
| 12:10.23 | cb400f | guess that would be the notifications in the systray |
| 12:10.37 | cb400f | for file transfers etc. |
| 12:11.03 | cb400f | don't think dolphin has a second notification system beside that |
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| 12:35.04 | annma | Huskypaw: there's #gentoo-kde for Gentoo build related problems |
| 12:36.13 | Jucato | (for everything else, there's annma) |
| 12:36.17 | Jucato | runs and hides |
| 12:36.23 | annma | lol |
| 12:38.25 | Huskypaw | Thanks for that great tip annma |
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| 12:46.17 | lyhana8 | hi |
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| 12:47.06 | lyhana8 | I'm working with kompare and want to update only `msgstr` line of a poedit file |
| 12:47.18 | lyhana8 | I want to commit only the line with a green outline (as I changed my gettext key to something more genering, see right): http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4893/2010poedithowtocommitli.png |
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| 12:47.55 | lyhana8 | do you have any idea how to disable the "line grouping" feature in kompare |
| 12:47.59 | lyhana8 | ? |
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| 12:51.57 | _juan | hi, i have one problem. I am running koffice 2.1.2 on slackware 13.1 64 bits, kde 4.4.3, but my autocorrect doesn't work |
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| 13:59.40 | Hedron | hi everybody, I need help with dual head setup and KDE 4.5.3 |
| 13:59.48 | Hedron | for some reason, the monitor, which is positioned on the right side of the virtual screen is shifted to the left when loging-in |
| 13:59.56 | Hedron | this means, that the main monitor is OK, however the monitor, right of it is out of place and part of the main monitor is shown on the right part of the second monitor |
| 14:00.02 | Hedron | I tried this in gnome and have no such problem |
| 14:00.12 | Hedron | also I am unable to take screenshot, since the screenshot looks ok |
| 14:00.24 | Hedron | however I can post a photo of the second screen |
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| 14:01.39 | Hedron | here you can see the photo of the screen |
| 14:01.41 | Hedron | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9937/16112010090.jpg |
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| 14:03.30 | [mors] | hello |
| 14:03.31 | [mors] | can't configure routes in knetworkmanager's pptp vpn config dialog |
| 14:03.32 | [mors] | help ? |
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| 14:11.05 | mavior | hi, I'm experiencing a weird beahviour in KDE 4.5.2: after a successful suspend/resume cycle, if I want to suspend again one time I go to main menu -> leave -> suspend but the action is not actually triggered...the system do NOT suspend, just me? |
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| 15:03.37 | Havoc][ | hello! |
| 15:04.47 | leo_rockway | Havoc][: hello |
| 15:05.56 | Havoc][ | doese anyone have the same Problem with authenticating with kopete against ICQ? |
| 15:06.08 | cb400f | yup.. I did |
| 15:06.16 | cb400f | when I tried some hrs ago |
| 15:06.20 | Havoc][ | i asked it in #kubuntu, but there seems to by only one who had this yesterday. |
| 15:06.28 | Havoc][ | cb400f: yes, me, too. |
| 15:06.30 | neverendingo | i have it since 2 days |
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| 15:06.42 | cb400f | dunno if they broke kopete support.. or if it's just a temporary prob |
| 15:06.43 | neverendingo | not only limited to kopete |
| 15:06.50 | cb400f | ok, good :-) |
| 15:07.14 | neverendingo | pidgin didn't work either. they probably have changed authentication. go.icq.com works |
| 15:07.21 | Havoc][ | hm, maybe they have changed the authentication protocol or something |
| 15:07.53 | cb400f | two days is prolly too long for it to be a server outage problem :-( |
| 15:08.15 | Havoc][ | damn :-/ |
| 15:08.35 | Havoc][ | is there someone of the developers working on that :D? |
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| 15:09.07 | cb400f | ask in #kopete :-) .. but they're prolly all busy working on the kopete replacement |
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| 15:09.42 | cb400f | I thought I was the only one still using icq anyway.. me and russian spammers :-) |
| 15:09.45 | brot | kopete replacement? |
| 15:09.53 | cb400f | telepathy based thingy |
| 15:10.16 | cb400f | http://blogs.fsfe.org/drdanz/?p=325 |
| 15:11.56 | cb400f | maybe this is better http://gkiagia.wordpress.com/2010/09/20/what-is-telepathy-kde/ |
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| 15:54.13 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.5.3 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://pastebin.ca | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 16:03.25 | WinterFlame | if someone knows his way with kile, I would appreciate some help. I can't seem to get anything done with the newest version (the documents are old but they did work, so there is nothing wrong with what I wrote). this is the output http://pastebin.ca/1993510 |
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| 16:10.04 | pafcu | Anyone know if there's an easy way to run an external application when KDE detects an application crash? |
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| 16:13.03 | annma | explain better pafcu |
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| 16:14.07 | pafcu | annma: Well, When an application crashes, there is usually a crash handler dialog, right? |
| 16:14.14 | pafcu | So KDE somehow detects the crash |
| 16:14.32 | pafcu | In addition to the crash handler I would like to run an external application |
| 16:14.52 | pafcu | Say, any arbitrary command |
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| 16:22.33 | Gentoochild | hi there. My Kopete can't connect to ICQ right now. Does anyone have this problem as well or is it just me? |
| 16:23.00 | annma | Gentoochild: Topic for #kopete: ICQ fix: preferences->setup->change account settings->override server "login.icq.com" |
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| 16:23.37 | Gentoochild | ah, thanks |
| 16:24.13 | Gentoochild | 't was the first time in years that I needed to ask about Kopete, so I didn't bother searching for a dedicated channel ;-p |
| 16:24.50 | Havoc][ | cb400f & florian_, your welcome :-) |
| 16:24.50 | annma | no problem :) |
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| 16:25.14 | annma | Gentoochild: it was asked about just minutes ago so I copied/pasted |
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| 16:25.26 | Gentoochild | aha |
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| 16:30.44 | pafcu | OK, apparently drkonqi handles crashes. Is it possible to specify some other program to call upon a crash? |
| 16:30.53 | annma | gdb |
| 16:31.23 | gkiagia | depends on what you want to do |
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| 16:33.09 | pafcu | gkiagia: Basically just run an arbitrary program when a crash is detected |
| 16:33.19 | pafcu | So instead of running drkonqi run something else |
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| 16:33.51 | pafcu | And just replacing the drkonqi binary is not a good solution since my distribution would complain when trying to do updates |
| 16:34.20 | gkiagia | well, that's not really possible, since KCrash hardcodes the "drkonqi" name |
| 16:34.43 | pafcu | gkiagia: But surely the path must be configurable? |
| 16:34.55 | gkiagia | although you could have an other "drkonqi" somewhere earlier in $PATH |
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| 16:35.14 | pafcu | As far as I can tell I don't have drkonqi anywhere in my $PATH |
| 16:35.16 | gkiagia | I don't see a reason why it should be configurable |
| 16:35.42 | gkiagia | yes, it's in libexec, that dir is searched after $PATH I think by KStandardDirs::findExe |
| 16:35.55 | gkiagia | (but I may be wrong) |
| 16:36.06 | pafcu | OK, so could I add another dir that findExe looks in? |
| 16:36.23 | pafcu | Ah, just by adding it to the normal PATH of course |
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| 16:38.58 | rethus | KDE: 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) - kaddress 4.4.6 - if i try to add a new contact, the entry-dialoge is english (my whole system is german) why isn't this uflly translated? |
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| 16:40.18 | Gentoochild | it seems there is lots of things not translated yet in 4.5 :-/ |
| 16:40.25 | Gentoochild | and kdepim is still a different story |
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| 16:41.01 | annma | you can check via websvn.kde.org |
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| 16:44.39 | _r00t- | hello i don't know why but i cannot see icons on my kde desktop (folder view) |
| 16:45.16 | _r00t- | i also cannot change it to desktop or netbook view |
| 16:45.29 | _r00t- | i'm using gentoo linux |
| 16:45.43 | _r00t- | kde 4.5.3 |
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| 17:32.42 | Black | Hello all, is there a software to replace phonon as sound backend under KDE SC 4.5.x |
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| 18:39.29 | Black | sorry annma, my problem is that phonon reconize my intel ALC889, but I can't use my sound card with, but I can with other software (flash, vlc) |
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| 18:42.06 | Black | currently I have 2 hda sound card, an intel and a nvidia, I use gentoo and I have build my kernel with alsa and intel hda driver in hard mode, phonon prints me my intel only when I check to print the advanced devices |
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| 18:43.04 | annma | what does alsa mixer say? |
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| 18:46.09 | smoge | hi |
| 18:46.27 | smoge | how to strip down all unecessary things from KDE to improve performance?? |
| 18:46.31 | smoge | any guide on line for that????? |
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| 18:48.34 | Black | Mmmh, which message du you want ? |
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| 18:50.05 | annma | smoge: what performance issue do you have? |
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| 18:52.01 | smoge | I'm having issues with low latencies |
| 18:52.09 | smoge | I'm trying to improve the whole system |
| 18:52.30 | smoge | I like KDE a lot, and I would not like to migrate to openbox |
| 18:52.50 | smoge | just wondering if there is something I can do to improve KDE |
| 18:52.53 | smoge | performance |
| 18:53.38 | annma | low latencies? |
| 18:53.44 | annma | be more precise |
| 18:53.53 | inkjetunit | smoge: do you use a source based system? |
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| 18:54.05 | smoge | I use Arch |
| 18:54.11 | smoge | I installed with pacman |
| 18:54.21 | inkjetunit | smoge: if you use gcc, it might have been doing something wrong |
| 18:54.33 | smoge | hum... |
| 18:54.33 | inkjetunit | gcc with cpu specific optimizations i mean |
| 18:54.36 | annma | smoge: that does not tell me anyting |
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| 18:54.47 | annma | what do yo umean by "low latencies" exactly |
| 18:54.56 | annma | and what is your system specs |
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| 18:55.13 | smoge | I mean using JACK with very small blocksize and do not get xruns with audio |
| 18:55.41 | smoge | this means I can't have sudden cpu usages |
| 18:56.07 | inkjetunit | smoge: i recently built kde 4.4 from source, and something decided that parts of qt and kde core was to be built with cpu specific optimizations. nearly everything was crashing and the UI had was very inresponsiver for the parts that worked. |
| 18:56.27 | smoge | hum |
| 18:56.44 | inkjetunit | smoge: that was gcc 4.1 and optimizations for atom |
| 18:56.48 | smoge | but thats not the case with "pacman -S kde", right? |
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| 18:56.56 | smoge | I use i7 |
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| 18:57.48 | inkjetunit | smoge: i don't know anything about arch, but if you ask arch people, they should know whether cpu optimizations are used in kde builds |
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| 19:00.55 | ls3 | is there a monitor config screen to control vga out on a laptop for KDE3? |
| 19:01.04 | ls3 | *in KDE3 |
| 19:02.26 | inkjetunit | ls3: if it's a recent laptop, a gui for xrandr might do |
| 19:02.42 | ls3 | ah true |
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| 19:34.30 | jhutchins_lt | What replaces quanta on kde4? |
| 19:34.55 | Sho_ | jhutchins_lt: Quanta (as-yet unreleased, but in the works) |
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| 19:35.49 | jhutchins_lt | Hm. |
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| 19:37.34 | Nece228 | does kde have application to create PCB? |
| 19:37.57 | Nece228 | or somethin like electronics for beginners |
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| 19:38.25 | Sho_ | Nece228: there are a number of circuit-design apps on kde-apps.org |
| 19:38.55 | Sho_ | Nece228: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KTechlab?content=18943 and http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Cirkuit?content=107098 for example |
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| 19:41.12 | Nece228 | cool, thanks |
| 19:42.16 | annma | not sure ktechlab was ported, I think I tried to built it and it failed but I don't remember why |
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| 19:43.45 | pinotree | annma: it is slowly being ported as kdevelop plugin(s) |
| 19:45.01 | annma | 0.3.7 still asks for KDE 3 |
| 19:45.13 | annma | that's an excellent news pinotree |
| 19:45.22 | pinotree | but really slowly |
| 19:45.28 | annma | ;) |
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| 19:49.48 | Frogbarf | I've been having problems connecting to icq via kopete. Am I alone? |
| 19:50.44 | annma | #kopete and see topic Frogbarf |
| 19:50.47 | pinotree | «ICQ fix: preferences->setup->change account settings->override server "login.icq.com"» |
| 19:51.01 | Frogbarf | thanks |
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| 19:58.42 | Khas | Hello. kmix is using 60meg of physical memory - is this normal? |
| 19:59.33 | annma | new install? |
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| 20:00.05 | Khas | annma, yeah, kubuntu 10.10 |
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| 20:00.27 | annma | Khas: did you have KDE before on this machine? |
| 20:00.42 | Khas | I'm a linux oldbie, but haven't used KDE since 4.1 when it was, erm, slightly incomplete ;-) |
| 20:00.48 | Khas | Not on this machine, no |
| 20:00.59 | annma | what's your sound card? |
| 20:01.03 | Khas | I need to optimise it, it's a laptop and at the moment the system is raping the battery |
| 20:01.14 | Khas | Let me check, think it's a bog standard Realtek |
| 20:01.28 | annma | I have kde on a laptop was always ok and itsince years |
| 20:01.42 | Khas | (As an aside, anyone know where I can manually alter the keybindings for yakuake? :-D ) |
| 20:01.54 | Sho_ | Khas: In the "Configure Shortcuts" dialog |
| 20:02.06 | annma | isn't there a COnfigure Shortcudialogts |
| 20:02.14 | Khas | 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) |
| 20:02.32 | Khas | Sho_, yeah, it doesn't recognise the 'grave' or 'tilde' key. |
| 20:02.42 | annma | Khas: so quit kmix from the tray icon right-click |
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| 20:02.55 | annma | Khas: then run kmix from konsole |
| 20:02.56 | Khas | Comes up with silly symbols, I've always had to manually put it in, but now I can't see how to |
| 20:03.00 | annma | or whatever terminal |
| 20:03.01 | Khas | annma, ok, one sec |
| 20:03.58 | Khas | Ok, it's sitting at 8meg now. Might be something to do with wake from sleep, hmm. |
| 20:04.32 | Khas | knotify4 at 58meg? |
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| 20:04.44 | Khas | (Just trying to get a feel for KDE4, sorry for questions :-D ) |
| 20:04.45 | annma | 8meg??? |
| 20:04.54 | annma | how do yo usee that? |
| 20:04.55 | Khas | Yup |
| 20:05.01 | Khas | System Activity |
| 20:05.08 | Khas | Memory Column |
| 20:06.35 | annma | ok so see if it gets higher |
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| 20:07.10 | Khas | Yeah, will do. What about knotify4? That about right for that? |
| 20:08.18 | annma | 12.5Mb here |
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| 20:08.30 | Khas | 58meg o.o |
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| 20:08.57 | annma | 59 is Firefox for me and above is Kate at 63 and X at 71 |
| 20:09.11 | Khas | x is 346meg o.o |
| 20:09.34 | annma | check with other KUbuntu users maybe |
| 20:09.42 | Khas | Yeah, I might do that. |
| 20:09.51 | Khas | Thanks :-) |
| 20:10.02 | annma | I compile directly from KDE sources myself |
| 20:10.13 | Khas | Yeah, I used to run gentoo |
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| 20:19.58 | leo_rockway | The description of kamoso-git in AUR is funny o.o "A webcam application to attract sweet girls to kde" |
| 20:20.11 | annma | ah booh |
| 20:20.39 | annma | there ar ealready sweet girls in kde!!! |
| 20:20.44 | leo_rockway | indeed |
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| 20:20.48 | annma | ;) |
| 20:21.02 | leo_rockway | that's why I said it's funny |
| 20:21.10 | leo_rockway | not funny "haha", but funny as in weird |
| 20:21.14 | annma | I'd like to try Kamoso |
| 20:21.22 | leo_rockway | I'm installing it right now |
| 20:21.23 | annma | sounds very promising |
| 20:21.26 | cb400f | surely he means _more_ sweet girls |
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| 20:22.37 | annma | he needs to add a plugin that generates a profile pic |
| 20:22.55 | leo_rockway | they just retook the development, so maybe you can ask them that |
| 20:23.02 | annma | yes |
| 20:23.59 | annma | resize a head, have a cartoon plugin even |
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| 20:25.00 | annma | leo_rockway: does your distro provide QtGstreamer? |
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| 20:25.10 | leo_rockway | annma: AUR does... |
| 20:25.17 | leo_rockway | I'm compiling it now |
| 20:25.18 | annma | ah OK |
| 20:25.40 | annma | thanks I'll give it a try tomorrow |
| 20:25.46 | leo_rockway | previously kamoso-git depended on outdated vlc |
| 20:25.54 | leo_rockway | but that has changed, that's why I'm giving it a try |
| 20:26.03 | annma | the devels are at a conf right now so they are not on IRC |
| 20:26.07 | leo_rockway | okay |
| 20:26.08 | annma | yes I read the blog |
| 20:26.22 | annma | I know Aleix quite well |
| 20:26.41 | leo_rockway | I see |
| 20:26.50 | leo_rockway | well, I'll be happy to get rid of cheese |
| 20:27.06 | annma | :) |
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| 20:28.21 | annma | if I has read more carefully I would have seeen the git url for QtGstreamer.... |
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| 21:04.43 | drvoodoo | upps, not everytime. will check it |
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| 21:38.13 | Der0 | when i start xchat, it is not using my KDE color theme, is there a way to fix this? |
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| 21:39.57 | N9NU | yes |
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| 21:40.36 | N9NU | you can install the gtk-qt app that allows your KDE desktop style to be used with GTK apps |
| 21:40.39 | N9NU | which Xchat is |
| 21:40.42 | N9NU | i beolieve |
| 21:41.03 | Der0 | oh okay, i see |
| 21:41.13 | N9NU | it's accessed via the 'systemsettings' |
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| 21:41.28 | N9NU | at the bottom under 'Lost and found' |
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| 21:42.14 | N9NU | OR set xchat manually via it's color code setup...which is in the options |
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| 21:57.10 | inkjetunit | is qt3 expected to stay around for some more years? |
| 21:58.04 | ChemBro | some more years? wasn't the support stopped 3 years ago? |
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| 21:58.56 | inkjetunit | ChemBro: i don't know. i just recenty found out konqueror and assume that qt4 is heavier |
| 21:59.31 | ChemBro | "heavier"? heavier on features, or what? |
| 21:59.32 | inkjetunit | -out |
| 21:59.41 | inkjetunit | ChemBro: memory use |
| 22:00.17 | ChemBro | 10 or 20 MB more? |
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| 22:01.16 | inkjetunit | well. i tried kde4 lately, and the DE ate about 300 MB, which is a bit too much for my use |
| 22:01.51 | inkjetunit | so i'm thinking of doing a static build of konqueror |
| 22:02.03 | ChemBro | and how much ram do you have? |
| 22:02.08 | inkjetunit | 1 GB |
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| 22:03.02 | ChemBro | sounds to me, that you complain about, that kde is using your ram (how it should be) |
| 22:03.06 | inkjetunit | i don't really need a full-featured desktop. i just need a good browser, so a static build of konqueror might be the way to go |
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