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| 01:57.58 | ftg2 | is there a plasmoid that displays time of sunrise/sunset? |
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| 02:01.36 | Tatsh | hi all |
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| 02:02.34 | Tatsh | http://ompldr.org/vNjN6dg/kde4-kwin-compositing-enabled.ogv |
| 02:03.21 | Tatsh | http://ompldr.org/vNjN6dw/kde4-kwin-no-compositing-enabled.ogv |
| 02:03.27 | Tatsh | notice how on the second video animation is VERY smooth |
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| 02:03.37 | Tatsh | but on the first it starts good then gets very bad |
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| 02:08.09 | MrSho | ftg2: yeah, the world clock plasmoid |
| 02:09.45 | MrJucato | some weather plasmoids might have that data too. not sure though |
| 02:12.51 | Tatsh | http://ompldr.org/vNjQwMA/kde4-kwin-compositing-enabled.ogv here is a better of video |
| 02:12.55 | Tatsh | please compare with the no-compositing video |
| 02:13.02 | Tatsh | i'm not sure what to do about this speed problem |
| 02:13.15 | Tatsh | but it's very annoying; kde 4.4.5, nvidia 256.53, xorg 1.7.7 |
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| 02:21.55 | tktiddle | where does stdout get logged? |
| 02:22.16 | damnshock | tktiddle: nowhere |
| 02:22.30 | damnshock | unless you are running a terminal with buffer memory |
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| 02:55.13 | magyar | hi, is there any way to get kmail to display images in html emails? (amd64 debian squeeze) I have "Prefer HTML to plain text" and "Allow messages to load external references from the internet" both checked |
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| 03:10.10 | leo_rockway | magyar: that should do it. If you're getting the images as attachments, you can go to View > Attachments > Inline |
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| 03:12.42 | magyar | leo_rockway: thank you very much, that did it |
| 03:12.49 | leo_rockway | magyar: =] |
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| 03:15.14 | K4k | I just installed KDE4 on ArchLinux and it was working fine, all be it laggy graphically so I thought installing compiz-fusion would help speed things up. However, I'm now having an issue with screen refresh using compiz with KDE, are their any known issues with this. I'm having trouble finding info online other than with Nvidia chips and I'm using an intel chip |
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| 05:23.14 | utku|away | kdesrc-build problem again, how can I solve this?: http://dpaste.com/273231/ |
| 05:26.25 | utku | oops, sorry wrong channel |
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| 05:47.04 | soumen08 | Ive been using Okular's review feature for a while now, and I really like it. Id like to know a little more about it. Are reviews stored on the pdf itself or are they stored elsewhere? Will they still work if used (with okular) on someone else's computer(assuming ive transferred only the pdf)? |
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| 05:50.20 | tpocra | When I boot up into kdm and KDE. the resolution of my LCD and projector (DVI and HDMI respectively) are 640x480 |
| 05:50.33 | tpocra | When they should be 1920x1200 and 1920x1080 respectively |
| 05:50.53 | tpocra | in KDE's system settings, the correct resolutions have (Auto) next to them |
| 05:50.59 | tpocra | So why aren't they automatically used upon boot? |
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| 06:32.46 | chemtail | Kubuntu 10.10, KDE 4.5.1. What's with the haphazard keyboard shortcut functionality? application menu hotkeys have to be enabled in config, hotkeys for network manager, device manager and clock disappear after every reboot, hotkey for the quickaccess widget plain doesn't work. |
| 06:33.03 | chemtail | is there an obscure checkbox i need to tick? |
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| 06:44.03 | dasKreech | #kubuntu ? |
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| 06:57.38 | chemtail | No luck there so far (been trying a few times). |
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| 06:57.56 | chemtail | Figured #kde might have more in-depth knowledge of how the hotkey system works. |
| 06:58.30 | chemtail | For all I know, there's a tickbox for this like the rather undocumented one that enabled the application launcher hotkeys. |
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| 07:03.53 | dasKreech | chemtail: did you try kquitapp plasma-desktop after setting the keys for the plasmoids? |
| 07:06.28 | chemtail | tried a lot, from restarting plasma to logging out, rebooting .. the funny thing is, the network manager, clock and device notifier widgets do respond to their allotted hotkeys until restart, whereas ie. the quickaccess widget doesn't work regardless of anything I've tried. |
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| 07:28.35 | Huskypaw | Is it possible to have 4 different wallpapers in KDE 4.5.4? |
| 07:28.47 | Huskypaw | I mean like when clicking on each of the 4 icons..? |
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| 07:32.40 | pennyless | is away: Gone away for now |
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| 07:35.47 | chemtail | Huskypaw: right-click the pager -> Pager Settings -> Virtual Desktops -> Different Widgets for each Desktop |
| 07:36.06 | chemtail | at least that's the way in 4.5.1 |
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| 07:36.33 | Huskypaw | Ohmigawd I think I'm building up a second religion next to my toaster religion. |
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| 07:37.13 | Huskypaw | And where's that Pager Setterings stuff? :3 |
| 07:38.09 | dasKreech | Huskypaw: right click the pager? |
| 07:38.31 | dasKreech | chemtail: which KDE are you using? |
| 07:39.10 | chemtail | Huskypaw: pager = thingie with squares representing your desktops |
| 07:39.31 | chemtail | dasKreech: 4.5.1 |
| 07:39.55 | dasKreech | chemtail: I'll try the hotkeys and see if they flip off |
| 07:40.14 | chemtail | o.O |
| 07:40.21 | dasKreech | when I reboot |
| 07:40.27 | dasKreech | Could be a bug |
| 07:40.34 | dasKreech | did you check the bko ? |
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| 07:43.08 | chemtail | A few times. Can't say I've trawled through it recently. |
| 07:44.21 | chemtail | Thing is, the hotkey system has never been fully functional in any release I've seen to date, so I've been poking around for bugs several times, but "keyboard shortcuts" or "global hotkeys" gives a plethora of results, and I have a rule of not spending too much energy per week on relatively trivial bugs :p |
| 07:44.34 | dasKreech | :-) ok |
| 07:44.42 | dasKreech | Might want to poke in #plasma |
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| 07:44.52 | chemtail | ...or I end up spending days fixing stuff that the package management system swishes away a week or two later ;p |
| 07:44.57 | chemtail | hmya |
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| 07:59.07 | jaem | I'm trying out a recent trunk build of KDE-PIM 4.6-pre, and I'm unsure how to set up the Akonadi IMAP resource. |
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| 07:59.29 | jaem | I added it to the accounts list, and it appears to be existent now, but it shows "offline", and won't sync the mail |
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| 08:01.04 | jaem | When I click the Modify buttn, it shows that no maildir path has been selected. I assume this is the problem, but I don't know where I should point it at. Suggestions? |
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| 08:08.40 | jaem | Huh... never mind. I kicked it and it automagically started working. |
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| 08:35.31 | shal3r | Is Jovie supposed to work without pulseaudio? |
| 08:35.46 | annma | all of kde is |
| 08:36.02 | annma | did you manage to install backends then? |
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| 08:38.13 | shal3r | i found a logfile |
| 08:38.16 | shal3r | http://pastie.org/1286532 |
| 08:38.31 | shal3r | so i need pulseaudio which is bad thing |
| 08:40.05 | annma | you don't |
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| 09:42.07 | serenity | hi |
| 09:42.34 | serenity | i want to open 2 documents in 2 seperate kate instances, how can i do this? |
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| 09:47.11 | damnshock | serenity: just run two kate instances |
| 09:47.16 | damnshock | with different sessions |
| 09:47.39 | serenity | ok |
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| 10:01.16 | tarzeau | ~/KDE/Share/Apps/Clipper what's that good for? |
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| 10:01.53 | Sho_ | tarzeau: do you mean klipper? |
| 10:02.09 | pinotree | do you mean ~/.kde/share/apps/klipper? |
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| 10:06.53 | tarzeau | Sho_: no idea i'm not a kde user |
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| 10:16.47 | svuorela_ | tarzeau: please get a grip about your own questions! |
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| 10:24.03 | Pablerkas | hi there. Is it ok if virtuoso-t gets 80% CPU for ten minutes and going? it happens sometimes, i usually kill it but maybe it is doing something and i just have to wait |
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| 10:26.08 | annma | Pablerkas: seems like a broken virtuoso-t |
| 10:26.16 | annma | did you ask your distribution? |
| 10:26.25 | Pablerkas | mmm... nope |
| 10:26.36 | Pablerkas | i'll do it now |
| 10:27.11 | Pablerkas | is there a way to know what is it exactly doing, annma? |
| 10:27.37 | annma | virtuoso-t is used by nepomuk |
| 10:27.53 | annma | but there's no way it reaches 80% CPU, whatever it's doing |
| 10:28.19 | damnshock | mmm |
| 10:28.26 | Pablerkas | yes, but i mean, if i say "virtuoso-t consumes lots of cpu" probably will get no answer |
| 10:28.26 | damnshock | it reaches 100% for many |
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| 10:28.29 | damnshock | for a while |
| 10:28.41 | annma | damnshock: pardon? |
| 10:28.42 | Pablerkas | if there was a log or something... |
| 10:28.50 | damnshock | *many times |
| 10:28.55 | annma | Pablerkas: disable nepomuk indexing then |
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| 10:29.19 | annma | damnshock: your settings are broken as well |
| 10:29.27 | annma | Pablerkas: what kde version? |
| 10:29.35 | annma | what distribution? |
| 10:29.36 | damnshock | they might be |
| 10:29.47 | Pablerkas | mmm... last, kde 4.5.3 i think, i'm in Archlinux |
| 10:29.48 | damnshock | I disabled nepomuk and indexing |
| 10:29.56 | damnshock | I barely use them |
| 10:30.07 | annma | so your virtuoso is not doing anything damnshock |
| 10:30.12 | Pablerkas | i'd love to help improving nepomuk indexing thing, i love it |
| 10:30.27 | damnshock | besides, there's still a lot of work to do to get semantic desktop (nepomuk) into kde |
| 10:30.33 | annma | Pablerkas: the Nepomuk team would be happy to get help |
| 10:30.35 | Pablerkas | even if i just report a bug or something |
| 10:30.37 | damnshock | annma: now it doesn't get to 100% cpu usage ;) |
| 10:30.47 | annma | Pablerkas: do you read PlanetKDE? |
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| 10:30.57 | annma | damnshock: end of story then |
| 10:31.03 | damnshock | annma: I'd love to help, I'm not a good programmer though |
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| 10:31.15 | annma | so? |
| 10:31.15 | Pablerkas | i guess, but i don't know anything about programming kde things |
| 10:31.21 | damnshock | annma: I know it's end of story for me. I just pointed out that I had the same problem |
| 10:31.23 | Pablerkas | i read it, annma |
| 10:31.24 | annma | KDE is not only for programmers |
| 10:31.30 | damnshock | it was nothing just for Pablerkas' case |
| 10:32.00 | Pablerkas | so where could i offer my help? |
| 10:32.08 | Pablerkas | and how* |
| 10:32.23 | damnshock | annma: I know it's not only for programmers |
| 10:32.29 | damnshock | that's why I'm here, you know ;) |
| 10:34.14 | annma | no |
| 10:34.24 | annma | helping kde is not here |
| 10:34.29 | annma | here it's user support |
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| 10:34.56 | annma | helping kde as a non programmer is being in doc channel or web channel or whatever |
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| 10:36.45 | damnshock | well, in my humble opinion |
| 10:36.55 | damnshock | user support is part of kde ;) |
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| 10:37.54 | annma | Pablerkas: it depends what you want to help with |
| 10:38.01 | annma | Nepomuk is in need for help |
| 10:38.31 | annma | read Sebastien Trueg blogs and contact him if you want to help here |
| 10:38.33 | damnshock | annma: which is the doc channel? kde-doc? |
| 10:38.40 | annma | kde-docs |
| 10:39.01 | Pablerkas | i'm thinking right now about it. I'd like to help nepomuk or to help creating and maintaining the web, because that's a thing i'd love to learn |
| 10:39.35 | Pablerkas | i mean, i'm a recently graduated computer engineer |
| 10:39.58 | Pablerkas | but feel like i have a lot of useless knowledge |
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| 10:40.46 | damnshock | Pablerkas: welcome to the team |
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| 10:41.04 | damnshock | I feel exactlly the same, although I haven't finished the studies yet |
| 10:41.06 | annma | web needs lots of help |
| 10:41.27 | Pablerkas | then maybe i'll start there |
| 10:41.40 | annma | you see that kde.org is in a new style |
| 10:41.46 | Pablerkas | yep |
| 10:41.53 | annma | while some other websites are still in orange |
| 10:42.08 | annma | this new style needs lots of improvements |
| 10:42.22 | annma | there's a #kde-www channel |
| 10:42.40 | Pablerkas | ok, i'll ask there then |
| 10:42.44 | Pablerkas | thanks annma |
| 10:43.08 | ct529 | hi everybody, Does anyone know what happened to kivio? What substitutes it? |
| 10:43.25 | annma | ct529: #koffice |
| 10:43.53 | ct529 | annma: yes, I installed it but it is not there anymore? |
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| 10:44.25 | ct529 | annma: I am using 2.1.2 on kubuntu 1004 lts 64 bit |
| 10:44.28 | annma | it is not there anymore??? |
| 10:44.45 | ct529 | annma: well, I cannot see it and cannot start it .... :-( |
| 10:44.55 | annma | ask your distro channel |
| 10:44.55 | ct529 | annma: I used to love it .... |
| 10:45.20 | pinotree | kivio in koffice needs work |
| 10:45.33 | pinotree | it is not usable, so it is not compiled by default |
| 10:45.47 | annma | pinotree: it is not installed by the distros then? |
| 10:45.51 | pinotree | no |
| 10:46.02 | ct529 | pinotree: but I used to use it for production charts! |
| 10:46.10 | pinotree | so? |
| 10:46.32 | ct529 | pinotree: that means it is actually usable even in a corporate environment .... |
| 10:46.45 | pinotree | the one from koffice 1.6 |
| 10:47.50 | ct529 | pinotree: I do not know .... I suppose, I have not used it much in the last 9 months .... |
| 10:48.15 | pinotree | the one in koffice 2 shoul just compile and barely do something |
| 10:48.57 | ct529 | pinotree: thanks |
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| 11:03.37 | Morales___ | olaa :D |
| 11:03.56 | EUFASIO | OLA |
| 11:03.57 | EUFASIO | OLA |
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| 11:03.59 | EUFASIO | OLA |
| 11:04.02 | EUFASIO | SARGHRSDH |
| 11:05.02 | tarzeau | svuorela: huh? it's a question of one of our users |
| 11:05.14 | tarzeau | svuorela: he's just asking if he needs the very large history files in that directory |
| 11:05.31 | tarzeau | svuorela: but if nobody has a grip about KDE in #kde, i'll just tell him to get rid of the stuff and see what happens |
| 11:05.57 | tarzeau | and yes, it's true. nobody in our ISG does use KDE, some do GNOME occassionally |
| 11:05.59 | pinotree | tarzeau: in the klipper settings, there's an item to set the length of the items in the history |
| 11:06.08 | tarzeau | and canonical support doesn't really support KDE either |
| 11:06.26 | tarzeau | pinotree: can i set this for all our 3000 users at with a simple file or command? |
| 11:06.35 | tarzeau | because we don't mess around with user home directories |
| 11:06.43 | tarzeau | and they get a quota depending on who they are |
| 11:06.56 | Sho_ | tarzeau: Klipper is KDE's clipboard utility, primarily designed to address the aspect of X11's clipboard system that the app you copy from is responsible for handing over the data when you paste, so if you quit the originating app beforehand, you can't paste anymore. Klipper fixes that by taking control over the data, so it becomes the originating app. Gnome has something similar. |
| 11:07.01 | pinotree | well the default should be quite low; does it happen with any user, or just with some? |
| 11:07.05 | svuorela | tarzeau: well. when you ska questions, you should be prepared to answer followue questions. |
| 11:07.09 | tarzeau | so basically it's just another case software that sucks, like well many others |
| 11:07.13 | Sho_ | tarzeau: On top of that Klipper has various extra features such as maintaining a clipboard history, but that is entirely optional. |
| 11:07.18 | tarzeau | svuorela: i have no idea WHICH kde software uses it |
| 11:07.25 | tarzeau | svuorela: HOW would i find out? |
| 11:07.36 | tarzeau | tell me and i will. i was just saying i don't know, and i don't know how to find it out |
| 11:07.39 | svuorela | tarzeau: you dont even know the filename. |
| 11:07.41 | tarzeau | but i'm not saying i won't try |
| 11:07.43 | tarzeau | if i get hints |
| 11:07.57 | tarzeau | svuorela: no i don't, i'm not going to logout of my windowmaker to figure out |
| 11:08.08 | tarzeau | thank you, have a nice day |
| 11:08.22 | Sho_ | no thanks to you |
| 11:08.31 | tarzeau | it's probably best to remove kde, and have them install it as user if they really want to (which they won't) and all kde problems are solved. |
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| 11:10.16 | Jucato | scratches his head ... |
| 11:13.02 | bonsaikitten | intriguing. |
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| 11:22.13 | Mamarok | Sho_: I happen to know that guy, he is a pretender |
| 11:22.40 | Sho_ | Mamarok: yeah he sure sounded like one .. |
| 11:24.20 | Mamarok | Sho_: he is a sysadmin and BSD user, one of those who wear the nose high and tend to be very denigrating towards Linux |
| 11:25.00 | Mamarok | and has not a clue about desktop stuff |
| 11:26.28 | Sho_ | based on the above I don't think I'd trust him to have a clue about anything |
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| 11:29.27 | damnshock | Mamarok: now that you mention bsd, I might give it a try again sometime |
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| 11:29.51 | damnshock | do you know which is the latest kde version there? |
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| 11:31.53 | svuorela | Sho_, Mamarok : and he is comaintaining gnustep in debian |
| 11:32.49 | Sho_ | I could make a snide comment about the scope of gnustep's userbase and its relation to the absence of a need for social skills now |
| 11:33.09 | Sho_ | damnshock: 4.5.3 @ FreeBSd |
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| 11:33.24 | svuorela | and he is involved in debian/kfreebsd |
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| 11:35.21 | svuorela | Sho_: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=270877 |
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| 11:37.09 | Sho_ | svuorela: ouch |
| 11:44.16 | damnshock | Sho_: thanks for the info |
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| 11:58.45 | alberto_feo | holaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
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| 13:33.36 | crocket | How can I make kde session listen to port 6000? |
| 13:34.29 | pinotree | "kde session"? |
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| 13:36.14 | crocket | pinotree, I logged in using kdm |
| 13:36.36 | crocket | I want X server to listen to a port so that it can accept X clients. |
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| 15:46.40 | BluesKaj | how to set a text file page size permanently in Kate ? The size changes back to some dinky default size unless one saves it everytime it's used |
| 15:47.20 | damnshock | BluesKaj: what do you mean by "page size"? |
| 15:47.59 | BluesKaj | how to set a text file page size permanently in Kate ? The size changes back to some dinky default size unless one saves it everytime it's used |
| 15:48.17 | BluesKaj | oopd sorry |
| 15:49.14 | BluesKaj | I don't want to have to resize the page evrytime i open it |
| 15:49.33 | pinotree | "resize the page"? |
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| 15:50.27 | cb400f | the window maybe? |
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| 15:50.52 | BluesKaj | yeah, drag the corner to make it larger, pinotree, |
| 15:51.14 | pinotree | the corner of the kate window? |
| 15:51.21 | BluesKaj | it's textfile ..I call it a page |
| 15:51.43 | pinotree | there is no such thing as "pages" in plain text files |
| 15:51.49 | cb400f | maybe the window size is saved as part of a session |
| 15:53.59 | BluesKaj | ok lets just say why does the file/window have to be resized everytime it's opened? |
| 15:54.49 | cb400f | are you opening a saved session? or the default session? |
| 15:55.21 | BluesKaj | always a default session , I'm the only user |
| 15:55.40 | cb400f | but you might have saved a million kate sessions nevertheless :-) |
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| 15:55.44 | BluesKaj | I'd like to make the default size larger |
| 15:56.09 | cb400f | anyway, for me if I open kate default session.. change window size.. close.. reopen.. the window size is remembered |
| 15:56.34 | BluesKaj | yeah it's remembered only once |
| 15:56.51 | cb400f | but of course you can make an application specific kwin rule that forces a specific initial window size always |
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| 16:00.28 | BluesKaj | cb400f, where do I set that ..I'm running kubuntu maverick so i'm looking in system settings / window behaviour |
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| 16:02.39 | cb400f | open kate... alt+f3 -> advanced -> application specific settings |
| 16:04.11 | cb400f | (geometry tab) |
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| 16:09.03 | BluesKaj | cb400f, so simple , thanks for the tip :) |
| 16:09.42 | cb400f | that's kde ;-) |
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| 16:12.46 | BluesKaj | yeah, when i first started using linux kde always seemed more familiar due to the yrs of ms-windows apps we had to use at work ...gnome always looked like a cartoon desktop to me |
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| 16:17.33 | BluesKaj | cb400f, now if there was away to get the bookmrk and tab fonts in chromium to integrate with the kde settings , life on this large monitor would be very good indeed . |
| 16:19.19 | cb400f | hehe.. I wouldn't get my hopes up :-) |
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| 16:19.55 | cb400f | though I read recently that Opera will be doing font rendering according to the desktop it runs in |
| 16:20.07 | cb400f | but I doubt google cares that much |
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| 16:21.45 | BluesKaj | yeah , been doing some research and it seems the chromium devs haven't bothered trying to fix the problem. I'm forced to use FF which is okay but I do prefer chromium |
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| 16:27.57 | damnshock | I can't live without my vimperator extension |
| 16:28.10 | damnshock | and the latest beta of firefox 4 |
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| 16:28.23 | damnshock | has seen an impressive performance improvement |
| 16:30.44 | BluesKaj | damnshock, ok I'll bite , what's vimperator ? |
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| 16:39.36 | damnshock | BluesKaj: it's a firefox extension that makes firefox behave as vim |
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| 16:40.22 | BluesKaj | damnshock, IC , sounds interesting |
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| 16:41.46 | damnshock | BluesKaj: to me it's more than interesting |
| 16:41.54 | damnshock | I love the vim behaviour |
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| 16:42.05 | damnshock | I use it in bash, in firefox and, obviously |
| 16:42.07 | damnshock | in vim |
| 16:42.09 | damnshock | hehehe |
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| 16:42.11 | borei | hi falks |
| 16:42.13 | damnshock | as well as in kate/kwrite |
| 16:42.15 | damnshock | hi borei |
| 16:42.20 | damnshock | although I do not use them much |
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| 16:42.44 | borei | is there any alternatives to cyrus-sasl for pimlibs |
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| 16:42.56 | borei | it's old |
| 16:43.21 | damnshock | borei: I'm sorry? |
| 16:43.39 | borei | to build pimlibs i have to have cyrus-sasl |
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| 16:44.02 | borei | i've found that it's old (or i was looking in wrong place) |
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| 16:47.26 | damnshock | borei: I don't see what's wrong with that |
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| 16:49.02 | ryan_ | my sound goes from mute to blasting is there a way to fix it? |
| 16:49.19 | ryan_ | I've tried to adjust the settings in kmixer |
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| 16:53.50 | borei | just wanted to keep fresh soft |
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| 16:54.56 | damnshock | ryan_: could you try alsamixer? |
| 16:55.00 | damnshock | in a terminal |
| 16:55.03 | borei | oh, i was looking in wrong place |
| 16:57.25 | chriss0110 | Hi. Does anybody know something about curious bugs in kde in connection with kms? everything crashes and nobody knows why. Now I thought it may be because i deactivated kms via "nomodeset" in grub. So I activated it again but now kde doesnt even start. |
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| 16:57.27 | BluesKaj | damnshock, is FF4 still a ppa or is it in the backports yet , ...I'm talking kubuntu here |
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| 16:57.45 | damnshock | BluesKaj: I have no idea about kubunut |
| 16:57.49 | damnshock | kubuntu |
| 16:57.53 | BluesKaj | ok |
| 16:57.54 | damnshock | I use archlinux or centos |
| 16:58.05 | damnshock | I'd say it's still a ppa though |
| 16:58.14 | BluesKaj | well I'll looka round |
| 16:58.45 | BluesKaj | beta right ? |
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| 17:04.14 | chriss0110 | or does anybody know where i can get help for my problem? |
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| 17:19.33 | rdieter_work | chriss0110: largely, because that's not a kde problem. that's more a kernel/mesa/driver issue |
| 17:19.57 | rdieter_work | chriss0110: I'd suggest contacting your distro support channel(s) |
| 17:20.00 | chriss0110 | rdieter_work: gnome works absolutly okay with kms activated and with kms deactivated |
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| 17:20.23 | chriss0110 | rdieter_work: will do |
| 17:21.02 | rdieter_work | chriss0110: though, I guess it depends on what "everything crashes" means. |
| 17:21.20 | chriss0110 | rdieter_work: mainly the x-server |
| 17:22.22 | rdieter_work | chriss0110: ok, smells a lot like a low-level driver issue then (esp if desktop effects are being used here) |
| 17:23.00 | chriss0110 | rdieter_work: but i'm absolutly not sure if kms even has something to do with these crashes |
| 17:23.11 | chriss0110 | rdieter_work: was just a guess |
| 17:23.32 | rdieter_work | chriss0110: ok. regardless, X crash => kernel/driver problem |
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| 17:24.05 | chriss0110 | rdieter_work: okay. is there any reason why there is no crash under gnome? |
| 17:24.32 | ahiemstra | chriss0110: do you use KDM or another DM? |
| 17:24.41 | chriss0110 | ahiemstra: gdm |
| 17:24.55 | ahiemstra | and that works until KDE starts? |
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| 17:25.19 | rdieter_work | chriss0110: yes (lots, but the fact remains, the desktop/windowanager in general, shouldn't be able to kill X) |
| 17:25.45 | ryan_ | damnshock: thanks I'll try alsamixer |
| 17:25.59 | damnshock | ryan_: no prob |
| 17:26.11 | chriss0110 | ahiemstra: gdm works absolutly fine |
| 17:26.31 | chriss0110 | rdieter_work: so im gonna ask these questions in my distro channel? |
| 17:26.37 | ahiemstra | so, when does it crash? |
| 17:26.45 | rdieter_work | chriss0110: yes, that would be my suggestion. |
| 17:27.35 | chriss0110 | ahiemstra: x crashes when i type something in firefox, x crashes when i minimize something. Kde doesnt start when i activate kms |
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| 17:28.01 | ahiemstra | hmm, so the bug is also triggered by gtk |
| 17:28.13 | ahiemstra | really does sound like a driver issue |
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| 17:30.10 | chriss0110 | ahiemstra: but there is no crash using gnome, so it has to be in connection with kde |
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| 17:31.15 | ryan_ | I think there is another issue because the volume goes to mute at 30% |
| 17:32.08 | ryan_ | do you know if there is any driver issues relating to sound? I'm using a dell inspiron W1705 |
| 17:32.35 | ahiemstra | chriss0110: sounds more like kde doing something different which exposes a driver bug |
| 17:32.44 | ahiemstra | possible something related to kwin |
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| 17:33.36 | rdieter_work | ryan_: if you're using pulseaudio, pa (very) recently fixed a bug with similar symptoms |
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| 19:06.52 | vladimiroff | I'm going to make a presentation about KDE4, and I was wondering...is there somewhere saved the announcement about begining of idea for KDE4, why everything was completely rewritten, what was wrong with kde3 at all...and stuff |
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| 19:07.14 | vladimiroff | Just want to make some introduction why KDE4 is completely new, at all |
| 19:07.36 | annma | when qt moved to Qt4 we had to port KDE 3 to qt4 |
| 19:07.59 | annma | KDE 4 is not completely new though |
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| 19:08.41 | annma | kdelibs stayed, the desktop can be like KDE 3 so please do not tell wrong facts inyour presentation |
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| 19:11.10 | annma | vladimiroff: ^^ |
| 19:11.49 | vladimiroff | annma: thats why I'm asking for information...to avoid wrong facts :) |
| 19:11.52 | annma | KDE moved from KDE 1 to KDE2 and so on |
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| 19:12.16 | annma | a project such as KDE cannot stay for years the same, can it? |
| 19:12.23 | vladimiroff | of course |
| 19:12.37 | vladimiroff | well...we saw really big movement.... solid, the new PIM, phonon, plasma |
| 19:12.52 | annma | so we moved toKDE 4 because of the port to Qt 4 f |
| 19:13.01 | annma | the new PIM is not there yet |
| 19:13.20 | vladimiroff | oh...right, my mistake |
| 19:13.37 | annma | solid and phonon are libs |
| 19:13.45 | annma | we called those "pillars" |
| 19:13.46 | tangent3 | hi, are there any know memory leak issues with kmix? i've noticed it has occasionally started killing my hdd with read/writes after serveral hours in world of warcraft |
| 19:13.57 | annma | better foundations to develop on |
| 19:14.09 | annma | plasma is the desktop pillar |
| 19:14.30 | annma | desktop, netbook, even mobile |
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| 19:14.38 | annma | that's what plasma is about |
| 19:14.43 | vladimiroff | I see |
| 19:14.51 | vladimiroff | annma: so...things like kdelibs, kwin, konqueror, konsole and so on are like the old ones just ported to Qt4 and then continued to be developed, right? |
| 19:15.04 | vladimiroff | or I get it wrong? |
| 19:15.13 | annma | kwin saw lots of improvements but basically yes |
| 19:15.39 | vladimiroff | improvements - yes. but not completely rewritten from scratch. is that right? |
| 19:15.54 | annma | that's right |
| 19:16.11 | annma | most things were not rewritten from scratch |
| 19:16.44 | annma | but KDE 4 is out for long already |
| 19:16.52 | annma | we're about to release 4.6 |
| 19:17.12 | annma | people do not really care why we moved years ago from 3 to 4 |
| 19:17.27 | annma | what's your audience? |
| 19:17.52 | annma | if the audience are people who never used Linux then you'd better not going that route |
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| 19:18.21 | vladimiroff | annma: oh no...it's Open Source conference in Bulgaria |
| 19:18.53 | vladimiroff | it's going to be after 10 days...but I just now received confirmation about that my subject is accpeted |
| 19:19.28 | annma | so what's the audience exactly? |
| 19:19.47 | vladimiroff | opensource users and geeks. mostly linux |
| 19:19.54 | annma | even if the people know about Linux, I don't think you need to talk about kde3 |
| 19:20.00 | annma | and why kde4 |
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| 19:20.28 | annma | better present the current software and the 4.6 improvements |
| 19:20.42 | vladimiroff | oh...no....I'm not talking about kde3. I'm talking about kde4. what are the new things on it and what is going to be in 4.6 |
| 19:20.51 | vladimiroff | this was just for some intro....4-5 minutes |
| 19:20.58 | annma | not even |
| 19:21.13 | annma | I encourage you to read Planet KDE |
| 19:21.21 | annma | and subscribe to the promo list maybe |
| 19:21.32 | vladimiroff | I'm reading it, but just for 2-3 months from now... |
| 19:21.34 | vladimiroff | the promo list? |
| 19:21.37 | annma | present your talk there and ask for advice |
| 19:21.46 | annma | yes we have a promo mailing list |
| 19:21.47 | annma | wait |
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| 19:22.01 | annma | https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-promo |
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| 19:23.21 | annma | for an introduction you can get facts from http://kde.org/presspage/ |
| 19:23.35 | vladimiroff | wow...I didn't know about this mailing list. So, it seems I have something to read about that night |
| 19:24.01 | vladimiroff | yep, I have that saved, also all the announcements from 4.0 to current... |
| 19:24.31 | annma | the past is not very important |
| 19:24.38 | vladimiroff | agree |
| 19:25.23 | vladimiroff | annma: thanks a lot for your help! It's not very good that I have only 10 days, but jost got the answer...so it seems I'll have to take ready fast |
| 19:25.23 | annma | there are some slides at http://www.kde.org/kdeslides/ |
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| 19:25.47 | annma | there are templates for kde talks as well on the above link |
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| 19:30.33 | vladimiroff | annma: I will explain my idea in the kde-promo, too...and I'm sure I'll get a lot of help. thank you, again |
| 19:31.38 | annma | you're welcome |
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| 19:48.02 | bedahr | Hi! is there a note taking application for KDE that is designed to be used with tablets? |
| 19:48.22 | bedahr | Right now I'm scribbling my notes in krita but it's not really designed for that... |
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| 19:57.22 | shal3r | How to debug KDE? Is there any way to write logfiles with specific errors or something like that? |
| 19:57.37 | annma | what prog? |
| 19:57.45 | shal3r | I'm trying to enable Xrender, but all i'm getting is "Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values." |
| 19:57.59 | shal3r | annma, System Settings/Desktop Effects |
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| 19:58.33 | annma | what video card? |
| 20:00.58 | shal3r | GeForce 8400 GS and GeForce 7300 SE |
| 20:01.11 | shal3r | http://pastebin.ca/1987493 |
| 20:01.32 | shal3r | driver - nvidia |
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| 20:03.54 | wesbluemarine | Hi! how can i enable raster graphic on qt? |
| 20:04.52 | shal3r | annma, KDE also shows "Desktop effects are not available on this system due to the following technical issues: Required X extensions (XComposite and XDamage) are not available." but xdpyinfo shows the oppisite - they are enabled |
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| 20:24.03 | chinmaya | i am facing some issues related to kdesu |
| 20:24.15 | chinmaya | is this the right channel to ask ? |
| 20:24.55 | annma | ask your distro channel |
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| 20:39.01 | phogg | Is this KDE development or user support? |
| 20:39.38 | leo_rockway | phogg: for KDE development there's #kde-devel |
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| 20:40.02 | phogg | just making sure - I hate seeing random users mucking up dev channels |
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| 20:42.59 | phogg | Somehow I made konqueror decide that directories need to be opened by the default open with handler, which was gqview. Double clicking a folder caused gqview to open. I changed it to konqueror so now when I double click I get a new konqueror window. Any ideas on what I need to do to unbreak this? |
| 20:43.52 | phogg | this is Debian, KDE/konqueror 4.4.5 |
| 20:44.21 | phogg | Deleting all entries from the Open With for folders might work, but I'd prefer to fix it |
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| 20:45.15 | phogg | GNU\colossus: touche! |
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| 20:48.22 | muffinsz | great job on KDE 4.5 guys. I use to be a long time KDE user until KDE 4.0 cameout and switch over to gnome, but recently came back and I am glad to be back. KDE 4.5 is just fantastic. Now I just hope more apps are made to use QT4/KDE4 instead of aging GTK. Keep up the great work! |
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| 20:50.42 | BajK | anybody know a good vnc client for kde? or does krdc support playing a vnc server? |
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| 20:54.01 | shal3r | BajK, yes it supports |
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| 20:54.44 | BajK | shal3r: already got it |
| 20:54.46 | BajK | thx anyway :) |
| 20:55.30 | grogers | hey i've noticed a lot of people getting frozen up keyboards on the client using krdc yet no workarounds...anyone can offer some advice? cheers |
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| 20:56.18 | Scunizi | What do I use for managing PGP Keys? |
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| 20:57.37 | BajK | so i'll just leave my pc on through the night :) |
| 20:58.03 | BajK | but sorry for my insulting behavior. after all, many many thanks for helping. and if it does not work well, in 2 weeks there is the alfa which will be available for kubuntu directly through repos I hope :) |
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| 20:58.15 | BajK | I'll go to work then and track its progress via vnc on my smartfone :) |
| 20:58.53 | leo_rockway | Scunizi: I use kgpg |
| 20:59.18 | Scunizi | leo_rockway: I looked at that but by the description I couldn't tell if it was graphical or not.. is it? |
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| 20:59.37 | leo_rockway | Scunizi: there's another app for that... I think it's called kleopatra (and I think it does that too) |
| 20:59.49 | leo_rockway | but I always used KGPG (in KDE3) so I keep using it now in KDE4 |
| 21:00.09 | Scunizi | leo_rockway: thanks I'll look at it.. it probably pulls kgpg in as a dep... :) |
| 21:00.24 | leo_rockway | it might, I don't know. |
| 21:00.39 | leo_rockway | kgpg is a good app and it does all I need =] |
| 21:03.13 | grogers | any takers? |
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| 21:52.08 | guysoft42 | hi all, might anyone know how the transparency work in KDE? i want to make it so transparency will only show the current background, not the windows under it |
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| 22:41.55 | Toxygene | http://yfrog.com/73screenshotlnvp |
| 22:42.16 | Toxygene | just two icons in the toolbar, nothing in configure toolbars |
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| 22:59.00 | Toxygene | http://yfrog.com/73screenshotlnvp ha;lp |
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| 23:00.17 | pinotree | Toxygene: looks like kcachegrind for kde3... how did you install it? |
| 23:00.31 | Toxygene | from source |
| 23:01.12 | pinotree | did you install (make install) it? |
| 23:01.42 | Toxygene | I might not have have 'make install'ed it |
| 23:01.46 | Toxygene | just make |
| 23:01.48 | Toxygene | guess I'm a tool |
| 23:01.52 | pinotree | that's the issue |
| 23:02.03 | Toxygene | thanks, sorry for the idiot question |
| 23:02.07 | Toxygene | :) |
| 23:02.38 | pinotree | why the kde3 version, btw? |
| 23:04.07 | pinotree | Toxygene: ¥ |
| 23:04.08 | pinotree | â |
| 23:04.57 | Toxygene | hm... not entirely sure, I'm in Ubuntu / Gnome, I just installed a bunch of -dev libraries that kcachegrind complained about during the compile |
| 23:05.06 | pinotree | which sources did you download? |
| 23:06.20 | Toxygene | checking |
| 23:06.30 | pinotree | and well, did you try installing kcachegrind from your distro? |
| 23:06.42 | Toxygene | yea, it was busted |
| 23:06.47 | pinotree | uh? |
| 23:07.09 | Toxygene | For some reason the callee map and something else were basically empty |
| 23:07.18 | Toxygene | I think the version was something like 0.6dev |
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| 23:31.08 | karsten-nr | Menus are broken in my KDE applications. Debian squeeze/testing. |
| 23:31.40 | karsten-nr | Version 4.4.3 or thereabouts. |
| 23:31.55 | karsten-nr | Window manager is WindowMaker, if it matters. |
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| 23:41.52 | karsten-nr | Ok, partially resolved. |
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| 23:42.28 | karsten-nr | I'm also dual-head. Was lookign for the KDE configuration tool, ended up running kinfocenter on my larger (2ndary) display. Menu tabs appear at the top of that screen. |
| 23:42.50 | karsten-nr | After 1st appearance of a menu tab at the top of the screen, they then appear within the application window where they should be. |
| 23:43.07 | karsten-nr | Not entirely correct behavior, but sortable for now. |
| 23:43.53 | karsten-nr | Weird: menus do *NOT* appear at all when a window is on my primary (laptop) display. |
| 23:44.09 | karsten-nr | Configured via xrandr. LVDS1 (primary) and VGA1 (2ndary). |
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