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01:32.03aescaip"hi"
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02:31.06Zombocomhi, I'm wondering if there is a kate-like vim editor.  I love kate, but I like the vim control scheme
02:31.36kc8hfi_i believe you can set the edit type to vi mode...
02:31.49Zombocomkc8hfi_: thanks!
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02:32.13kc8hfi_yeah, under configure kate, editing,  vi input mode
02:32.20kc8hfi_i think that'll do it
02:33.27Zombocomawesome
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02:43.11k4t434sisanyone have issues with flash after a recent update?
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02:46.07Damnshockk4t434sis: are you sure that is kde related?
02:47.31k4t434sisnot quite sure, was a video codec update
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05:34.26RobOakesMorning.  I was wondering if anyone knows where the Oxygen SVG icons are stored in the KDE source tree?
05:34.59RobOakesI've looked under KDE, playground (it looks like they were there, now moved).  Anyone have the current path?
05:39.33RobOakesHah!  Found them.  They were under kde-support.
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07:40.47eagles0513875hey guys im having issues on kubuntu maverick with plasma-workspace crashing after login
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07:47.44joanHello
07:48.03joanI need to chage the KDE language
07:48.59joanI only have installed english and I need spanish and catalan
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07:50.25joanWhat i do?
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08:00.07nsaibotcan i make audiocd kio slave chmod converted/copied files as writable by owner?
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08:02.39matrixxwin 38
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10:16.06Rabenklauehi, I just installed kde4.5 and it seems the battery widget is not working correctly.
10:16.34RabenklaueIt only shows a big red X propaply indicating that it did not found any battery information
10:17.10RabenklaueAlthough conky does it properly and in /proc/acpi/battery there is BAT0 with full information
10:17.39RabenklaueHow could I tell the widget where to find the BAT stats=
10:17.40Rabenklaue?
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10:18.07pinotreeis the hal daemon running?
10:18.18Rabenklauepinotree: Me?
10:18.22pinotreeyes
10:18.55RabenklaueNo, as it is deprecated I do not use it anymore.
10:19.06pinotreeyou don't, but kde does
10:19.12RabenklaueBut even after starting hald it does not change anything
10:19.27pinotreenext login
10:19.38Rabenklauepinotree: I'll have a try. Thanks
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10:20.43RabenklaueWell, after restarting my kde session, it works. Thanks
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10:21.17RabenklaueBtw, why are windows I open with shortcuts do not get the focus automatically?
10:21.28RabenklaueIs there an option activating this?
10:22.19RabenklaueHmm, only the first window does not get focussed, the second, third, ... is focussed.
10:22.29RabenklaueIs this a bug, or a feature?
10:22.50cb400fthere was some weirdness with the "focus stealing prevention" in 4.4.. I thought it was fixed in 4.5
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10:23.14cb400fbut you can workaround it by tweaking the settings .. either globally or per app/window
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10:51.28delscan i somehow switch between desktops with a short cut or do, what i can with ALT-TAB but with not only the windows of one desktop but all desktops?
10:56.05Jucatoctrl+F1 to F4 by default to switch from desktop 1 to 4. you can also set up a shortcut for "walk through desktops" if you need it
10:57.05Jucato(in KDE 4.5) System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts -> Component: KWin. "Walk through desktops"
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11:04.30delsJucato: thx
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13:01.58bigbrovaranyone else experience this issue where strigi seem to just stop indexing when u resume from suspense
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13:08.25annmabigbrovar: what kde version?
13:08.45bigbrovarkde 4.5.3
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13:09.20bigbrovarI have been expericing this issue since upgrading to kde 4.5
13:09.20annmayou need to report it on bugs.kde.org then
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13:09.37bigbrovarannma: I would do that thanks :)
13:09.42annmathisanyone who reproduces?
13:09.49annmaanyone who reproduces?
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13:14.38annmahowlymowly: users questions here
13:14.52annmaplease explain why you need to close alt+F2
13:15.26annmahowlymowly: ?
13:15.32howlymowlyannma: #1:  i have 4.5 running on my system right now.. but the problem persists..
13:15.44annmaexplain how to reproduce
13:15.54annmagive me steps
13:16.11annmalike launch krunner with Alt+F2
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13:16.32howlymowlyyo..  hold on...
13:16.43howlymowlyyou gotta give mesome time :) i can not type that fast
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13:18.23howlymowlylaunch krunner with alt + f2 -> type in a command -> command doesn't get recognized (like 20-50% of the time) -> press <esc> to close krunner -> launch it again with alt+ f2 ->  now it works (but also only like 60%)
13:18.47howlymowlyannma: sorry.. I can not give you more "exact" description of the cirucmstances.. I would really like to know them myselfs...
13:18.48annmawait wait wait
13:18.52annmawhat command
13:19.11annma-> type in a command -> command doesn't get recognized (like 20-50% of the time)
13:19.22howlymowlyannma: all of them...  any arbitrary command...
13:19.23annmaprecisions here
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13:19.32howlymowlyeven when using plug-ins
13:19.40annmaI want names
13:19.45annmaI want an example
13:20.14howlymowlyok..  for example  kmail...
13:20.22howlymowlysometimes it does not recognize kmail :)
13:20.23annmaan already used command is in history and will be recognized
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13:20.30howlymowlybut that's just an arbitrary example
13:20.42howlymowlyannma: well.. not n my computer :)
13:20.46annmaweird
13:20.55annmaI can't reproduce that
13:21.07annmawhat distro
13:21.19howlymowlykubuntu 10.10
13:21.31annmadid you ask people using it if they can reproduce?
13:21.45howlymowlyone thing, that might help you is that I *think*  the error happens more often with the calculator plug-in?
13:21.55annmaso
13:22.02annmaI tell you what to do
13:22.08annmarun krunner from terminal
13:22.16howlymowlyannma: I am asking right now for the first time :)
13:22.19annmawhen this happens, see what happens as output
13:22.21howlymowlykk...
13:22.24annmaweird
13:22.35annmafor the first time when it ha^ened for several versqions
13:22.37annmaversions
13:22.44howlymowlyyeah.. I was too lazy, I guess
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13:22.58annmado as I said
13:23.04howlymowlyand I also started using gnome-do instead :)
13:23.12annmawell do
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13:23.33annmaseems more an install problem
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13:26.32howlymowlyannma: hm.. is there a more "verbous" output in krunner?  because it does not show anything in the commandline... just stops recognizing commands...
13:26.54annmawhat kde version is it?
13:26.58howlymowly4.5 ...
13:27.07annma...
13:27.14howlymowlyit shows me some errors at the start, though.. hold on..
13:27.52howlymowlyannma: http://pastebin.com/j9KBFe03
13:28.15howlymowlydon't know, whether they have any relevance to my problem
13:29.12annmawhat command did you type in krunner
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13:31.26howlymowlyI was just using the calculator plug-in otherwise I just tried long commands, like "file manager"  because I think when using long commands it happens more often (mabe this has something to do witht he text recognition?  no idea...)
13:31.50annmawait
13:31.56annmayou mentioned kmail earlier
13:32.03annmabetter be consistent here
13:32.35howlymowlykk..  so I'll use "file manager" from now  on
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13:32.48annmanot the name of the file manager
13:33.00annma?
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13:33.35howlymowlynope
13:34.28howlymowlyhmm.  i think it would probably be a godd idea to observer the krunner behaviour for 2-3 days a little bit more  and come back here, so I can maybe give more specific reports :)
13:34.32howlymowly*good
13:34.40annmaso you type "file manager' and what happens?
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13:36.49howlymowlyright now I typed until i had "file manage"  and then it stopped working... normally when adding the "r" it finds two more results then without the 'r'
13:37.12annmaok...
13:37.17howlymowlyit always stops working, when it "redisplays" the results
13:37.19annmaso "file manager" never worked?
13:37.52howlymowlynope...  thats not what I said..  it works like 80-90% of the time..
13:38.18annmaso what does it do when it works
13:38.41howlymowlywhen putting in the last "r" two more results pop up in the results window
13:38.52annmaand what do you do then
13:39.04howlymowlypress enter and start file manager :)
13:39.13annmawhich one is it
13:39.26howlymowlydolphin
13:39.36annmaOK
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13:40.01annmaso 10% - 20% it doe snot complete to 'file manager', it stops before you can type the end
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13:40.08howlymowlyexactly
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13:40.19annmasee how easy it is to explain
13:40.22howlymowlyit won't show any results at all then...
13:40.32howlymowly*in this case* :)
13:40.38annmadoes it freeze?
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13:41.25howlymowlyannma: i think not, because <esc> still works to close krunner and also he buttons still work
13:42.31annmatry with a new user
13:42.36annmasee if you reproduce
13:43.03howlymowlykk...
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13:49.40qqqqqqqqq9Hi, is there a way to turn off the automatic linewrap for links in kmail?
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14:08.19thorgthello all
14:08.42thorgtcould anybody please help me with qml plasmoids
14:09.01thorgtwhen trying to run a qml plasmoid from playground I get this error:
14:09.03thorgtcould not create a kineticqml scriptengine
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14:09.15cb400f/j #plasma
14:09.33thorgtcb400f: oops sorry :)
14:09.45thorgtI thought I was in plasma :) thanks
14:09.55cb400fwell.. not wrong here.. just sounds like a devel'ish problem :-)
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14:10.48bleeI am unsure if this is a KDE issue or a Chrome issue.  For some reason when using chrome maximized
14:11.03bleeI cannot drag the window out from a maximized state, ONLY on my secondary monitors
14:11.24bleeI have 3 monitors, my middle monitor i can drag it down fine, but to my left or right, it will not drag down
14:11.44bleeother windows work fine, just not chrome
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14:20.41ahiemstrablee: are you using the native windeco? or the chrome one?
14:21.18bleeThe chrome one ahiemstra
14:21.31ahiemstrathen it's a chrome issue
14:21.44ahiemstrayou might want to try it with the native windeco
14:22.00bleei believe it does work with the native OS titlebar
14:22.07bleethe chrome one is a bit nicer looking is all
14:22.28bleeI just thought it was wierd that it worked on my primary monitor, but not the others
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14:23.42ahiemstrawelcome to the world of client-side window decorations
14:23.53bleehaha
14:24.05ahiemstrathis is precisely one of the issues why mgraesslin has been against it
14:24.05pinotreeaka: when the application tries (failing) to be a window manager
14:24.35bleeI see
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14:24.57bleeChrome somewhat loses its appeal when you have the kwin title bar on top
14:25.36ahiemstraheh, that's not really something kwin can do something about though
14:25.42bleeright I know :P
14:27.14ahiemstrayou could use one of the chrome titlebar windeco styles... it would make it extra-confusing ;)
14:27.34bleeforgive me, but what do you mean by windeco? just a skin?
14:28.51ahiemstrawindow decoration
14:29.09ahiemstrabasically the skin, yes
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15:44.48friesehi
15:45.42friesei have kde 4.5.1, i want the taskbar to only display the icon for existing windows, like windows 7 does
15:45.57frieseanyone knows how to do that?
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15:51.21ahiemstrafriese: you mean hide the label?
15:51.28frieseyes
15:51.42friesejust icons, no text
15:51.51ahiemstrainstall the smooth tasks plasmoid
15:52.01frieseok
15:52.04ahiemstrathe normal task manager does not have an option for it
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15:57.30friesehmm, i did a sudo add-apt-repository ppa:samrog131 and after that sudo apt-get install kde-plasma-smooth-tasks, but the package cant b found
15:58.38frieseah ok
15:58.41friesegot it i think
15:59.12frieseits called plasma-widget-smooth-tasks
15:59.44ahiemstraI would have no clue, I don't run *buntu anymore
15:59.59frieseok, it works :)
16:00.01friesethanks
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17:46.33thorgthello all
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17:47.00thorgtI'm using trunk and though I've installed shared-mimetype-info I can't open anything, basically anything
17:47.12thorgte.g. Gwenview can't open graphical images
17:47.20thorgtkonqueror can't open pages
17:47.23thorgtetc.
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17:48.44thorgtand a lot of messages reading "Can't find some mimetype" appear
17:48.58thorgtmaking my kde trunk installation completely unusable
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17:54.58Sho_thorgt: most likely you didn't install stuff correctly / your environment variables aren't set up properly
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17:57.15thorgtSho_: any idea which environment variables exactly?
17:57.23thorgtmy ~/.bashrc is from Techbase
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18:04.51feathersanddownhI
18:05.01feathersanddowni have a problem with kde
18:05.15feathersanddownit freeze when a user log in to the system
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18:06.35feathersanddowni've deleted (or moved) .kde/.kde4 folders and then don't load the default data, keep freeze at 80%-90% after login
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18:15.59feathersanddownhow to debug my problem?
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18:16.35feathersanddowni don't want to reinstall opensuse again, yesterday was all day reinstall
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18:18.33roentgen_feathersanddown: does it work to switch to the terminal with ctrl+alt+f1?
18:18.42feathersanddownyes
18:18.58feathersanddowni'm viewing /var/log/messages but nothing about kde
18:19.11feathersanddownneither kdmlog , neither xorg.log
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18:19.56feathersanddownsomething else that i must check ?
18:20.08roentgen_what video card?
18:20.15feathersanddownnvidia 8600
18:20.42roentgen_have you installed the nvidia driver?
18:21.06feathersanddownlast kernel, last nvidia driver, i know there is an issue with them, but yesterday while installing others softwares i can reboot and no problem
18:22.03feathersanddownthere is a way to downgrade the nvidia driver, a repository ?
18:22.09roentgen_I'd try to make a test user and log in with that
18:22.10feathersanddownor only with manual install ?
18:22.59roentgen_I stick with nvidia drivers provided by Ubuntu, I don't install them manually
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18:23.47feathersanddownroentgen_:  trying with a new user, rebooting
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18:25.15feathersanddownja!, this work =)
18:25.39feathersanddownso what could be problem ?, a plasma widget ? that 've added ?
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18:25.56roentgen_hard to tell right away
18:26.23feathersanddownok
18:26.32roentgen_I'd rename all the dot dirs in home dir one by one
18:26.51feathersanddownbut now that with the new user work, what i can do ?
18:26.56feathersanddownrename them like you say?
18:27.08roentgen_in the terminal mode
18:27.23roentgen_rename one dir and try to login with the normal user
18:27.49roentgen_if it doesn't work stop kdm and rename second dir
18:27.59roentgen_and so on... :)
18:28.27feathersanddownuff hard job
18:28.32feathersanddownok ....
18:28.48roentgen_I'd suspect .kde* and .config
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18:29.00roentgen_IIRC
18:29.09feathersanddowni've renamed .kde* but not .config
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18:30.12roentgen_.local looks promising too :)
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18:31.53feathersanddownno changes changing .config to .config_old
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18:34.02feathersanddownuhm...
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18:34.12feathersanddownthere is a .xsession-errors
18:34.20feathersanddownlike a log file
18:34.43HuulivoideFor some reason my menu opens inthe right hand side of screen instead of the left where the menu button is located. This problem of missplacement fgoes away when I remove the plasma configs. Usually the menu goes in to the upper left corner. Here is a pic http://imagebin.ca/view/3IcI2Blr.html
18:35.14feathersanddownit have a "startkde: Starting up..." and the next line: "kdeini4: Aborting. bind() failed: address already in use"
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18:36.22roentgen_feathersanddown: don't you have something similar to 'service kdm restart' in opensuse?
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18:37.35feathersanddownservice: no such service kdm
18:38.23feathersanddownthen the next line say "could not bind to socket '/tmp/ksocket-jago/kdeinit4_0'
18:39.40roentgen_killall kdeinit ?
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18:41.56feathersanddownhey roentgen_, i've moved /tmp/ksocket-jago and /tmp/kde-jago to temporal names and kde start, as empty session because i've moved kde config too
18:42.03feathersanddownwait, call at door
18:42.27roentgen_some forum says 'rckdm restart' should work in suse
18:45.04feathersanddownaahh ok
18:45.12feathersanddownrestoring kde files
18:45.17feathersanddownrestoring kde files...
18:47.18feathersanddownah jaaaaaaa
18:47.36feathersanddownroentgen_: are you girl??? if so i want give you a kiss!!
18:47.38feathersanddown=)
18:47.55roentgen_well, thanks but no :)
18:47.56feathersanddownif no, a big beer, or coffee or whatever =)
18:48.16roentgen_big beer would rock I guess
18:48.37roentgen_time to get one I guess
18:48.48feathersanddownthanks for your time, new things learned: check local configuration files and temporal lock files
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18:51.04feathersanddowni've poweroff , then start again and now all is fine
18:51.13feathersanddownthank you =)
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18:52.01roentgen_feathersanddown: you're welcome, I'm glad I could help
18:52.20nerdy_kidhow do I use svn to download this? http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/sysadmin/kpackagekit/  thanks
18:54.06feathersanddownok bye, now is time to my desktop linux
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20:40.19Bugsonguys id there some way to recreat home.desktop file on my desktop, I overwright it by mistake
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20:51.54necrodeariaI'm having trouble typing in Farsi/Persian in KDE environment.  Following http://www.hoomanb.com/Unicode/Linux_KDE.htm I added Japan and selected Layout variant kana, and when Japan keyboard layout is selected, I can type in Japanese katakana by pushing keys on my us keyboard.  However, when I select Iran ("Farsi" is not available in the list), and activate the layout (trying both Default and Persian variants), and type on my us keyboard
20:51.54necrodearia, the text appears in English still.  Is this normal?
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21:04.08vooteyhi, where can I find documentation about the kopete dbus interface? .. don't find anything on kde.org or google. :S
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21:17.58BugsonI tried Home.desktop from /usr/share/application/kde4 but it's not what was before :/
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22:36.34howlymowlyhi poeple.. short question:  is there a way to determine, what application is causing 100% CPU in my KDe system? my system activity nly shows:  "Xorg" and "plasma-desktop"  taking 20%  and 30% CPU
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22:36.50howlymowly(which  measn 100% CPU for one core)
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22:37.57howlymowlyI wuld really like to know which application "really" causes this.. I dont want to remove every single plasma-app from my desktop to find out.. I'öö have to reconfigure all that...
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22:40.20howlymowlythe plasma-debug system is a mess imho
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