| 00:00.04 | Sho_ | cleary_: that blog suggests that recent DRI stacks default to enabling vsync |
| 00:00.22 | Sho_ | that's not directly related to KMS (KMS = doing video mode setting in the kernel) |
| 00:01.32 | cleary_ | Sho_: yep - that was where the thread was pulling in my memory ;) |
| 00:01.43 | Sho_ | :) |
| 00:01.49 | BountyX | Also, I noticed that the Present Windows plugin with text and icons enabled reduces frame rate by almost half when in use as opposed to those options being off. Should I report that as a bug ( I have a 1 gig video card ). |
| 00:02.28 | BountyX | It brings it from 100 to 26...with text and icons off, FPS is at a 100, I think that qualifies as a bug? |
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| 00:03.16 | Sho_ | well frame rate depends on what amount fo work is being done, i.e. that changing options changes frame rate is to be expected. whether the workload in this case justifies the framerate drop I can't say without having looked at the code |
| 00:03.26 | Sho_ | certainly it probably doesn't hurt if you make note of it with a report |
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| 00:04.43 | BountyX | I'll report it then =) |
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| 01:33.47 | webternals | Anybody familiar with kdevelop in here |
| 01:34.30 | Jucato | #kdevelop |
| 01:34.31 | Sho_ | sure |
| 01:34.37 | Sho_ | even more people who are in #kdevelop though |
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| 01:36.16 | webternals | nobody home over at #kdevelop |
| 01:36.56 | webternals | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:45.57 | webternals | Nobody Knows? |
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| 01:52.51 | oneforall | hmm knode the way to list is like seamonkey. so backwards . I prefer like pan getting the list viewing then decide if I want to subscribe. |
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| 01:55.47 | oneforall | airnews how do you do a select all . seems you have to go threw each one O.o . |
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| 02:14.51 | oneforall | err you can select a bunch of articles but can right click save |
| 02:15.03 | oneforall | blah saving 1 at a time for binaries is a pain too :( |
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| 02:35.47 | death_ | hi... i have a big problem with kde4 that i hope someone could help with... |
| 02:36.11 | death_ | i was playing with the window effects settings and set the wobbly level and stiffness and everything all the way up |
| 02:36.18 | death_ | now the window wont stop moving |
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| 02:36.45 | death_ | is there a file somewhere in ~/.kde I can edit it back down? |
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| 02:37.13 | DoctorPepper | hi! |
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| 02:40.43 | bernardoct_ | Hi everyone! |
| 02:40.44 | Sho_ | death_: run: qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin unloadEffect "kwin4_effect_wobblywindows" |
| 02:40.58 | bernardoct_ | I have a problem with setting properly the twinview mode |
| 02:41.11 | bernardoct_ | Can anyone help me please? |
| 02:41.21 | Sho_ | twinview is nVidia, see #nvidia |
| 02:41.40 | bernardoct_ | Actually, it works in gnome but not in kde :/ |
| 02:41.47 | dive | death_, or you could maybe press Alt-Shift-F12 to turn off effects temporarily so you can go in and set them back |
| 02:41.51 | bernardoct_ | It seems to be working properly, besides one problem |
| 02:42.01 | Sho_ | dive: except you can't access the effect list while desktop effects is disabled |
| 02:42.10 | Sho_ | dive: hence he has to unload the effect, which is what my command does |
| 02:42.18 | bernardoct_ | That's when I try to maximize a window or use fullscreen mode |
| 02:42.31 | dive | Sho_, but you can tick the effects box without applying? |
| 02:42.38 | dive | and then adjust |
| 02:42.48 | bernardoct_ | it always send the window to the laptop view, but I want it to be on the TV |
| 02:42.49 | Sho_ | dive: hm, yeah, that would work I guess |
| 02:42.50 | dive | or you used to be able last time I looked I think |
| 02:42.57 | DoctorPepper | can any help me please i have a issue with video images not displaying in dagron and kaffeine when playing any kind of video but the sound work just fine |
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| 03:21.58 | budfive | Can somebody tell me what directory programs are in when started from the desktop? |
| 03:22.30 | budfive | I.e. if I click on an icon of a program that is in /home/user/Desktop, what directory is that program running in |
| 03:22.41 | budfive | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.48 | dcthang | budfive: it dpends on ur desktop file |
| 03:24.03 | budfive | dcthang: can you tell me what the default is? |
| 03:24.16 | budfive | dcthang: I'm trying to do some remote debuggin |
| 03:24.19 | budfive | dcthang: and don't have access to a kde box this second |
| 03:24.52 | budfive | dcthang: the target machine just boot from a recent debian livecd, so it's probably doing the default |
| 03:25.07 | dcthang | so what do u want exactly? |
| 03:25.57 | budfive | I want to know if a program in /home/user/Desktop starts up in /home/user or in /home/user/Desktop |
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| 03:27.15 | dcthang | well u mean the execute file from Desktop folder, where it starts up from |
| 03:27.18 | dcthang | ? |
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| 03:27.49 | budfive | yes |
| 03:28.04 | budfive | if there's an executable /home/user/Desktop/prog |
| 03:28.10 | budfive | and I click on it to run it |
| 03:28.16 | budfive | I need to know which directory it's in |
| 03:28.26 | budfive | thanks a lot, by the way |
| 03:28.57 | dcthang | ah, if u see it on the desktop that's only link file of that program |
| 03:29.16 | budfive | no |
| 03:29.23 | budfive | the program is in Desktop |
| 03:29.36 | budfive | I don't know if it matters if it's a link or an actual binary |
| 03:29.56 | dcthang | i still do not understand your term "start up" :) |
| 03:30.49 | budfive | click |
| 03:31.29 | budfive | let's say you copy your xterm executable to Desktop with "cp /usr/bin/xterm ~/Desktop" |
| 03:31.43 | budfive | then if you click on the newly-created xterm on your Desktop, it'll start in /home/user |
| 03:31.48 | budfive | or in /home/user/Desktop |
| 03:31.52 | budfive | I'm trying to figure out which |
| 03:33.54 | dcthang | for me it starts from Desktop |
| 03:34.35 | budfive | so you have an xterm window that's in /home/user/Desktop ? |
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| 03:37.39 | dcthang | yes |
| 03:38.50 | budfive | ok |
| 03:38.52 | budfive | thanks tons |
| 03:46.05 | dcthang | budfive: u r welcome |
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| 06:38.56 | Zajec | hi, my standard panel disappeared while working and it's not visible anywhere on desktop now |
| 06:38.56 | Zajec | i added new one and it works fine... however: |
| 06:38.56 | Zajec | i still get notifications from old panel (which contained notification plasma widget), they appear in top left corner |
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| 06:39.06 | Zajec | how can I delete panel this is not visible? :| |
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| 06:41.30 | Sho_ | Zajec: hm, removing it via the desktop scripting console would be one way |
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| 06:43.01 | Sho_ | Zajec: Was the panel you want to remove the first and only panel on your desktop? |
| 06:43.39 | Sho_ | Zajec: if so, run 'qdbus org.kde.plasma-desktop /MainApplication showInteractiveConsole' in a terminal, and in the new window, type in 'panels()[0].remove()' and click Execute |
| 06:44.11 | Zajec | Sho_: yes, first, the only |
| 06:44.41 | cb400f | Sho_: just curious.. will the next yakuake release get "in sync" with the new konsole shortcuts for tabs, split view etc. ? |
| 06:44.46 | Sho_ | cb400f: yep |
| 06:44.51 | cb400f | cool |
| 06:44.58 | Zajec | Sho_: hear, it was it disappearing! thanks a lot! |
| 06:45.13 | Sho_ | Zajec: Yeah, the scripting console is pretty awesome stuff |
| 06:45.19 | Zajec | Sho_: great, i saw it disappearing! thanks a lot! |
| 06:45.25 | Zajec | Sho_: i see :) |
| 06:45.29 | Sho_ | Zajec: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting if you want to learn more :) |
| 06:45.40 | Sho_ | cb400f: I also did another cool Yakuake thing recently |
| 06:45.53 | cb400f | is all ears |
| 06:46.04 | Zajec | thanks |
| 06:46.24 | Sho_ | cb400f: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1160253 |
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| 06:46.55 | cb400f | oooh |
| 06:47.20 | cb400f | sounds neat .. I hope it'll be smooth even with nasty nvidia :-) |
| 06:47.36 | Sho_ | cb400f: in keeping with the quake thing and the 'glquake' opengl version id later released, now it's GLKuake ;) |
| 06:48.11 | cb400f | hmm :-) |
| 06:49.13 | Sho_ | cb400f: I'm on nVidia as well and it's smooth, except for a little kwin flaw where it's slow when opening on top of certain windows when kwin has the blur effect plugin loaded, but the kwin chaps have plans to fix that |
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| 06:49.49 | cb400f | ok, cool |
| 06:50.31 | Sho_ | cb400f: But aside from that, the framerate is usually higher than with the classic animation, and in particular it's much less prone to slowdown when the system is under CPU load |
| 06:51.37 | cb400f | sounds very nice |
| 06:52.05 | cb400f | but already makes 4.5 feel old then :-) |
| 06:52.45 | Sho_ | sorry |
| 06:52.46 | Sho_ | :) |
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| 06:58.12 | pumphaus | this akonadi stuff is driving me nuts |
| 06:58.21 | pumphaus | it just won't start |
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| 07:02.25 | pumphaus | so now I even can't start kmail, which works perfectly fine even without akonadi |
| 07:02.55 | pumphaus | I wonder why akonadi even starts with kmail. it doesn't use it yet, does it? |
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| 07:03.17 | Sho_ | pumphaus: The addressbook part does |
| 07:03.24 | Sho_ | (afaik) |
| 07:03.54 | pumphaus | great. so I have to figure out all this mysql crap just to check my mails. |
| 07:04.10 | hagabaka | hmm |
| 07:04.50 | hagabaka | I thought kmail was using "akonadi_imap_resource" now (I have only IMAP) |
| 07:04.59 | pumphaus | still using pop3 here |
| 07:05.06 | hagabaka | but it uses so much CPU, so I stopped using kmail :( |
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| 07:06.04 | pumphaus | I wonder what's so difficult about making a mysql server 'just work'. the amarok people do it just fine. but akonadi just can't do it. |
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| 07:39.56 | hunger | How can I stop the network management thingy in kde 4.5 to be able to run the gnome applet again? |
| 07:40.41 | rindolf | Hi all. I have a Konqueror view profile with several tabs. I want Konqueror to display them all in "Detailed View", but even after I save the profile and quit, it still reverts back to "Icons". What can I do? |
| 07:41.36 | emilsedgh | hunger: kquitapp knetworkmanager |
| 07:41.55 | cb400f | unless he's using the plasmoid :-) |
| 07:42.14 | hunger | emilsedgh: I do not have that running:-( Damn plasma mixes everything into one process or so it seems. |
| 07:42.30 | cb400f | if it's the plasmoid I'd guess it's just a matter of uninstalling it.. or disable it in the systray settings |
| 07:43.08 | Sho_ | actually your problem isn't plasma but the kded module backing the plasmoid |
| 07:43.14 | hunger | cb400f: disableing it does *NOT* help:-/ Already tried that before asking. |
| 07:43.18 | Sho_ | which is the actual nm frontend in that case |
| 07:43.22 | Sho_ | you need to unload the kded module |
| 07:43.30 | hunger | Sho_: Any way to kill it? |
| 07:43.36 | cb400f | maybe you need to restart NM afterwards? |
| 07:43.41 | cb400f | the backend that is |
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| 07:44.02 | Sho_ | hunger: qdbus org.kde.kded /kded unloadModule networkmanagement |
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| 07:47.30 | hunger | Sho_: That works, thanks! |
| 07:48.02 | emilsedgh | hey Sho_ :) |
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| 07:51.05 | hunger | Ha, managed to switch to nm-applet again:-) Finally networking works. |
| 07:51.55 | hunger | network manager UI is the one annoyance that still exists in kde 4.5 for me. It is improving, so I still have hope for 4.6, 4.7, ... |
| 07:52.22 | pumphaus | simple solution: don't use nm :p |
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| 07:54.38 | cb400f | NM plasmoid is not part of the SC.. so you don't have to hope for 4.6. or 4.7.. it has its own roadmap |
| 07:54.40 | Sho_ | hi emilsedgh |
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| 08:14.20 | rindolf | Anyone? |
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| 08:19.44 | Belserusk | Hello all. |
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| 08:50.25 | Tomasu | what would cause kmail to stop trying to quote messages when replying? |
| 08:50.31 | Tomasu | it wont even put my signature in... |
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| 08:52.02 | rindolf | Tomasu: what? What do you mean? |
| 08:52.25 | rindolf | Tomasu: you can assign a path to a signature in your account's preferences. |
| 08:52.30 | Tomasu | all of a sudden, when I try to reply to any message, the content of the new message is empty |
| 08:52.41 | Tomasu | not even my normal configured signature is added |
| 08:52.53 | Tomasu | it used to add both a quoted message, and then my signature |
| 08:53.28 | Tomasu | I just tried restarting kmail too. its really strange |
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| 08:55.52 | jeden | I just update to 4.5 kde and no application appears in menu http://itmages.ru/image/view/51082/e877dec5 http://itmages.ru/image/view/51084/f9c87de9 |
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| 09:10.15 | rindolf | Tomasu: ah. |
| 09:10.31 | rindolf | Tomasu: what is your KDE version? |
| 09:10.38 | rindolf | Tomasu: and KMail version? |
| 09:10.42 | rindolf | Tomasu: and distribution? |
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| 09:12.03 | Tomasu | rindolf: kde 4.4.5, kmail 1.13.5, debian sid |
| 09:12.12 | rindolf | Tomasu: ah. |
| 09:12.42 | rindolf | Tomasu: can you try replying to an old message? |
| 09:13.23 | Tomasu | how do you mean? how old? I've tried to reply to a bunch of different messages |
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| 09:14.19 | Tomasu | just tried replying to a message I've already replied to, and the text box in the new window is still empty |
| 09:15.06 | rindolf | Tomasu: ah, interesting. |
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| 09:15.35 | Tomasu | I'm not sure what has changed either, it just started happening since I went to bed yesterday. |
| 09:15.43 | Tomasu | haven't restarted or shutdown or anything |
| 09:18.21 | Tomasu | its very strange |
| 09:18.52 | Tomasu | I might just restart, see if that helps. probably also update any packages that need updating.. |
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| 09:22.02 | avenir | hello. in systemsettings -> application appearance -> style -> fine tuning (tab) -> graphical effects: (selector high/low display resolution and low/high/very high cpu) <- what exactly does this setting refer to? |
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| 09:22.28 | avenir | is it about oxygen animations, or desktop effects, or something else? |
| 09:24.00 | Tomasu | I think style refers to the widget style/engine |
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| 09:54.00 | ixM` | I'm facing an annoying problem, all my icons, miniatures,... are completely deformed (like a radial blur'd been applied) |
| 09:54.12 | ixM` | has anyone already encountered such problem ? |
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| 11:15.27 | raddy | Hello Everybody |
| 11:15.46 | raddy | Does KDE 4.5's Kopete support irc? |
| 11:16.28 | pinotree | nope |
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| 11:17.20 | raddy | pinotree: Why not still :( |
| 11:17.27 | pinotree | because nobody did that |
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| 11:17.34 | raddy | :( |
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| 11:18.05 | raddy | Is there a better IM than ageing and unmaintained Kopete IM? |
| 11:18.29 | svuorela | makes raddy a kopete developer |
| 11:19.56 | Typosu | umaintained? |
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| 11:21.32 | raddy | Typosu: Of course, it doesn't have any features a modern IM client would have, |
| 11:21.54 | raddy | Typosu: It is just left for sake of KDE. |
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| 11:22.53 | Typosu | like what? it works great for me. |
| 11:23.11 | raddy | Take for example, Pidgin, Empathy, Digsby, can Kopete be comparable to any one. |
| 11:23.53 | Typosu | don't really know what you're talking about. it even supports facebook chat... |
| 11:24.19 | raddy | Typosu: Does it have Voice and Video support for XMPP? email notification? IRC, tiled buddy list? |
| 11:24.35 | Typosu | I'm pretty sure it has video support with some protocols |
| 11:24.43 | Typosu | I just have no need for it so I don't know for sure |
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| 11:25.26 | Typosu | theres one sure way to get it to improve |
| 11:25.33 | Typosu | add the features you want, yourself |
| 11:26.18 | elmargol | somehow alt+f2 does not work anymore... is there a pid i can restart? |
| 11:26.22 | Typosu | just recently I needed a way to unclutter kate's document list for larger projects. wrote my own plugin for it. |
| 11:26.34 | Typosu | looks like the kate devs will even accept it \o/ |
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| 11:27.31 | raddy | Typosu: Unless Kopete becomes independent project, it won't grow. |
| 11:27.38 | Typosu | huh? |
| 11:27.49 | neverendingo | raddy: email notification? for what? getting a notice that you have a new message? |
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| 11:27.56 | Typosu | as far as I know projects in kde are free to do what they like |
| 11:28.04 | Typosu | none are really tied down to kde as a whole |
| 11:28.41 | Typosu | its up to people that want things in projects to make sure they get done. you want it you do it, or possibly get someone else who is interested in the same feature to work on it |
| 11:28.43 | raddy | neverendingo: email notification for GMail, Hotmail and some other web mail accounts |
| 11:29.16 | Typosu | I wonder how thats part of an IM client though? |
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| 11:29.28 | raddy | Typosu: I accept that. |
| 11:29.30 | Typosu | it'd make more sense to have a plasmoid with mail notifications |
| 11:30.03 | Typosu | waits for kmail to finish expiring his email |
| 11:30.08 | Typosu | woo this laptop's disk is lsow |
| 11:30.11 | Typosu | *slow |
| 11:30.22 | neverendingo | btw, kopete and its meta contact support is IMO superior to usual contact lists |
| 11:30.52 | raddy | I don't know how on earth Kopete is this much feature-incomplete as most other KDE apps are overflowing in features (At least was in 3xx era) |
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| 11:31.25 | Typosu | probably because people like to complain more than actually doing |
| 11:31.28 | neverendingo | raddy: missing more developers, that's it |
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| 11:31.41 | pinotree | (even without "more") |
| 11:32.20 | Typosu | but to be honest kopete has been improving. just not as quick as one might like. but complaining about it will get you nowhere ;) |
| 11:32.51 | Typosu | at one point I know video worked with at least one of the protocols in kopete, just cant remember which one. probably msn |
| 11:32.55 | raddy | Typosu: neverendingo : pinotree : But the truth appears to be that KDE users are not using Kopete much, only users drive a product growth, not developers. |
| 11:33.09 | Typosu | but I dont know if it works with wlm |
| 11:33.21 | Typosu | raddy: funny, I use kopete. I'm not a kde developer (yet) |
| 11:33.32 | Typosu | I've used kopete since the kde 3.2 days or something |
| 11:33.36 | Typosu | if not before |
| 11:33.39 | neverendingo | raddy: not entirely true. without devs you won't get further |
| 11:33.46 | raddy | Typosu: Ohh okk. |
| 11:33.58 | Typosu | neverendingo: and thats the largest problem, not enough kopete developers |
| 11:34.00 | Typosu | :( |
| 11:34.18 | pinotree | raddy: nobody is telling that kopete has all the features possible for average users nor it is developed quickly, but coming here and splatting a "truth", won't work. |
| 11:34.27 | raddy | Does KDE 3.5 has rewritten Kontact/KMail? |
| 11:34.39 | Typosu | you mean 4.5? |
| 11:34.53 | raddy | Typosu: yeah, sorry |
| 11:34.54 | Typosu | kdepim was left out of 4.5 iirc. it didn't make the deadline |
| 11:35.02 | Typosu | but it should be out soonish |
| 11:35.03 | raddy | Typosu: Ohh ok |
| 11:35.14 | raddy | rewritten kmail? |
| 11:35.26 | Typosu | well ported to akonadi at least, that was the plan I heard about |
| 11:35.43 | Typosu | but plans change, we'll see what happens when it happens ;D |
| 11:36.42 | raddy | Well people can blame me for bashing kopete, but recent project Empathy grown in such a pace to get a decent feature parity with at least pidgin. |
| 11:36.44 | Typosu | darn it, kmail is still acting up :( |
| 11:37.01 | pinotree | bashing kopete won't help at all |
| 11:37.03 | Typosu | raddy: theres really only one way to fix that. work on it. or get more people to work on it. |
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| 11:37.29 | raddy | Why not Kopete join hands with Telepathy? |
| 11:37.34 | Typosu | has anyone noticed their kmail not properly populating the text area on reply? |
| 11:37.44 | Typosu | that is the eventual plan isnt it? |
| 11:38.34 | Typosu | or I think the kde version/interface to telepathy? |
| 11:38.57 | raddy | KDE is only powerful in Desktop, not in applications, may be some exceptions can be used. |
| 11:39.14 | raddy | Like Amarok and K3B |
| 11:39.17 | Typosu | yeah now you're just not making much sense ;) |
| 11:39.22 | Typosu | things take time |
| 11:40.03 | raddy | Typosu: It is not time consumption. KDE was always like that. |
| 11:40.19 | raddy | Gnome appears very old school in Desktop front. |
| 11:40.28 | Typosu | well in kopete's case I think its always had a lack of developers |
| 11:40.31 | Typosu | chronic lack... |
| 11:40.33 | raddy | But it's applications are well biolt. |
| 11:40.45 | raddy | *built |
| 11:40.46 | Typosu | uh, I loathe pidgeon |
| 11:40.50 | Typosu | it always crashed on me |
| 11:40.56 | raddy | pidgin? |
| 11:40.58 | Typosu | which is why I switched to kopete |
| 11:41.00 | Typosu | yeah |
| 11:41.06 | Typosu | can't even remember how to spell the new name ;D |
| 11:41.07 | raddy | okk |
| 11:41.11 | raddy | :D |
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| 11:42.16 | raddy | Anyway after heavy bashing, i am now going to give KDE 4.5 a try |
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| 11:44.01 | elmargol | raddy: digikam is the best foto managing application on the market |
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| 11:53.46 | raddy | elmargol: Yeah, Digikam is very nice |
| 11:53.52 | raddy | a benchmark |
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| 12:04.19 | raddy | I think KDE roadmap always drawn to full-fill developer's wish instead of users, that is it's applications are not intuitive. |
| 12:05.40 | avenir | raddy: your personal blog would be more suitable place for such comments imho |
| 12:05.59 | raddy | avenir: :) |
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| 12:09.22 | emilsedgh | raddy: you have to consider that kde is not a single individual, and it has to keep developers who are mostly volunteers happy. |
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| 12:12.00 | raddy | emilsedgh: But Gnome being adopted by many corporations is very much Business Friendly == matured. take IBM vs Google. |
| 12:13.02 | raddy | Even though Google provides lot of bells and whistle features, it's service quality is not up to the mark. |
| 12:13.29 | emilsedgh | Gnome is really more user friendly, but thats not the only factor about being more mature |
| 12:13.54 | emilsedgh | Also, Gnome's business-friendlynes is causing them harm too |
| 12:14.07 | raddy | emilsedgh: But i am not saying that KDE delivers and unstable experience. |
| 12:14.42 | raddy | I like one factor about KDE very much. |
| 12:15.20 | emilsedgh | ? |
| 12:15.36 | raddy | It's integration with native applications are out-standing beats competition in every platform hands down. |
| 12:15.47 | raddy | May be Mac OSX can try to match. |
| 12:15.55 | emilsedgh | yeah |
| 12:16.49 | emilsedgh | one reason that gnome is more mature is that they havent changed a lot for a long time |
| 12:17.04 | emilsedgh | they just kept becoming more stable |
| 12:17.45 | raddy | emilsedgh: I won't accept that point, even KDE 3x was not intuitive. KDE4x appears to solve that, anyway i'll try it and let you know. |
| 12:17.56 | emilsedgh | but kde's stream of new technologies and changes is not even being done yet |
| 12:18.31 | emilsedgh | for example, Akonadi is being worked on for ~3 years (pre 4.0) and an Akonadi based Kontact has not arrived yet. |
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| 12:20.38 | raddy | Except KHTML, no other KDE Technologies are being adopted by 3rd party, that is the reason for it's application not to get developer echo-system. |
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| 12:20.58 | emilsedgh | well, Phonon was adopted into Qt too. |
| 12:21.24 | raddy | emilsedgh: But that is not a major win, |
| 12:21.27 | emilsedgh | as an example :p |
| 12:21.35 | raddy | emilsedgh: Ohh okk. |
| 12:21.58 | emilsedgh | raddy: i dont think kde wants others to use its stuff like they did with khtml |
| 12:22.28 | emilsedgh | KDE is a development platform. i dont think the purpose of developers is that others tear down this platform and use some of it parts |
| 12:23.15 | raddy | emilsedgh: See the exceptional growth of Webkit, even KDE also enjoys the improvement. |
| 12:23.19 | emilsedgh | (of course they would be happy if it happens) |
| 12:24.19 | emilsedgh | im not getting your point really :) |
| 12:24.23 | raddy | I still remember that once upon a time, people where tirelessly hacking Konqueror to equip gecko in it, but now Mozilla is taking a second look at Webkit. |
| 12:24.34 | raddy | My point is |
| 12:27.07 | raddy | Gecko, KHTML, Pidgin/Purple, Telepathy etc are this much feature because of adoption by 3rd party projects, so KDE's individual components should be adoptable as such. |
| 12:27.51 | emilsedgh | the difference is KDE doesnt like the framentation, like Gnome. KDE's purpose is not having a lot of libraries which are being used by 3rd parties. KDE's purpose is to have a complete, advanced development platform as a whole |
| 12:27.59 | emilsedgh | at least thats my understanding |
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| 12:28.52 | emilsedgh | (and that what makes kde's applications so intergrated, as you earlier said) |
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| 12:29.07 | raddy | emilsedgh: what harm you see the "Fragmentation" caused to Gnome. only more great applications. |
| 12:29.39 | Typosu | more like more crappy applications ;) |
| 12:29.57 | raddy | Typosu: :D Ha Ha Ha |
| 12:30.18 | cb400f_ | define "3rd party".. many kde applications like kdenlive, k9copy and such are developed outside of the kde svn |
| 12:30.32 | cb400f_ | or much of the stuff on kde-apps.org |
| 12:30.55 | emilsedgh | raddy: thats subjective. kde has many great applications. actually, i guess more than gnome. |
| 12:31.08 | raddy | cb400f_: 3rd party means Non-KDE Platform. |
| 12:31.29 | emilsedgh | raddy: and, why would kde be interested in non-kde platform applications? |
| 12:31.38 | raddy | Ohh guys, i'll catch you in KDE4 :) |
| 12:31.50 | cb400f_ | that sounds like a catch 22.. you want 3rd parties to use kde technology.. but when they do so, you stop considering them 3rd party |
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| 12:50.01 | xyz32 | hello |
| 12:50.26 | xyz32 | I have a quick question about the volume control in KDE |
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| 12:50.53 | xyz32 | I have a keyboard with vol+ and vol- keys on it |
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| 12:51.19 | xyz32 | is there a way to set up the volume step when I use the keys? |
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| 12:52.50 | Typosu | xyz32: do you have kmix started? it supports grabbing the normal volume key events... |
| 12:53.03 | xyz32 | es |
| 12:53.05 | xyz32 | yes |
| 12:53.28 | xyz32 | the keys work right now |
| 12:53.52 | xyz32 | the problem is that the volume jump is too big for 1 press |
| 12:54.07 | Typosu | oh, no I dont know if theres a way to change that.. |
| 12:54.20 | xyz32 | ok thanks |
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| 14:02.13 | panne | Hi, is there a way to prevent programs (in my case, |
| 14:02.27 | panne | ups, sorry ^^ |
| 14:02.48 | panne | found a solution, didn't want to send the half sentence... :) |
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| 14:15.19 | xyz32 | is it possible to use only the command key as ashortcutforthe kde menu? |
| 14:15.34 | xyz32 | or application luncher menu |
| 14:15.35 | xyz32 | ? |
| 14:15.46 | cb400f | don't see why not |
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| 14:16.21 | xyz32 | well when I try to set it it waits for a second key |
| 14:16.47 | MTGap | I just updated to 4.5 and kwin is using almost all of my cpu, I had desktop effects enabled in 4.4 and it ran fine. Is it the new blur effect that is slowing me down |
| 14:17.57 | cb400f | that and transparency would be the primary suspects |
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| 14:18.59 | MTGap | shouldn't those depend on my gpu though |
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| 14:24.13 | sebas | MTGap: should, yes. If your driver is crap, they might fall back to the CPU, and that's horribly slow |
| 14:24.20 | sebas | try turning off blur in kwin's settings |
| 14:26.08 | sebas | xyz32: afaik, you have to fiddle with xmodmap to make the command key not a modifier |
| 14:27.57 | MTGap | sebas: yeah I turned it off, but it still feels pretty slow compared to before, x server is also using a lot of cpu, I'm going to talk to my distro ppl |
| 14:28.15 | sebas | MTGap: also try if turning off compositing makes any difference |
| 14:28.25 | sebas | with some drivers, non-composited feel a lot snappier |
| 14:28.44 | sebas | (same problem actually, some unaccelerated XRender ops that end up on the CPU) |
| 14:28.52 | MTGap | even with desktop effects turned off, window moving is bad and laggy |
| 14:29.18 | sebas | that sucks then |
| 14:29.22 | MTGap | where do I turn off compositing? |
| 14:29.30 | sebas | you could also try vesa, that should be reasonably OK |
| 14:29.39 | sebas | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.49 | sebas | or RMB on the windeco, configure, suspend compositing effects |
| 14:30.35 | MTGap | does changing the opengl options do anything for performance |
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| 14:30.48 | sebas | MTGap: unlikely, but you could try |
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| 14:30.51 | vignesh | Hey |
| 14:31.06 | vignesh | Can kopete notify when new email is received on gmail ? |
| 14:31.06 | xyz32 | sebas: thanks for the info |
| 14:31.07 | sebas | if it's not using openGL and texture from pixmap it would really suck |
| 14:31.16 | sebas | vignesh: I don't think so |
| 14:31.21 | sebas | xyz32: yw |
| 14:31.23 | vignesh | ok Thanks |
| 14:31.31 | sebas | kmail can though :) |
| 14:31.38 | sebas | vignesh: there's also a gmail notifier I think |
| 14:31.49 | sebas | and of course the (unreleased) Lion Mail! |
| 14:31.54 | sebas | (4.6 material) |
| 14:31.57 | vignesh | sebas, ok |
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| 14:32.30 | MTGap | one really strange thing, is that screen edges lag like crazy |
| 14:32.40 | MTGap | that was smooth and lag free for me before |
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| 14:32.59 | MTGap | but, I'm running a crap 6 year old computer, I need to update soon |
| 14:33.11 | sebas | "before" means? |
| 14:33.26 | sebas | 4.4, or other OS, or other desktop, or ... ? |
| 14:33.36 | sebas | ... faster running time ... ;-) |
| 14:33.55 | MTGap | 4.4 |
| 14:34.19 | sebas | Alright, that's strange then |
| 14:34.33 | sebas | you could try asking mgraesslin in #kwin |
| 14:34.49 | sebas | we all hate regressions, especially in performance |
| 14:34.55 | sebas | is afk now though |
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| 14:55.13 | bisserke | anybody here? |
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| 14:57.08 | MTGap | yes |
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| 15:06.04 | nettezzaumana_ | hi there |
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| 15:06.26 | Henson_D | can anyone help me with some Kaddressbook problems? It seems as though it's using Akonadi, even when every configuration option tells me it's not. |
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| 15:07.24 | nettezzaumana_ | i have a very minor but in real very torturing problem .. if i invoke actions over klipper's current selection it's still opening it at firefox no matter what i've chosen from there (konqueror, kwrite, etc ..) |
| 15:07.28 | nettezzaumana_ | any ideas? |
| 15:07.29 | nettezzaumana_ | thanks |
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| 15:16.43 | dev001 | I've KDE 4.5.0 / OpenSUSE 11.3 installed. If I download a website's posted "Outlook calendar" event to desktop, then *import* into KOrganizer calendar, the event is created correctly. |
| 15:16.50 | dev001 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.57 | dev001 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:17.16 | dev001 | Any suggestions? |
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| 15:19.21 | quhan | is there someone know if konqueror supports userscript? |
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| 15:22.01 | emilsedgh | quhan: it doesnt. |
| 15:22.05 | emilsedgh | not yet, at least. |
| 15:22.09 | emilsedgh | there have been attempts |
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| 15:26.44 | quhan | emilsedgh: whats this? http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=51482 |
| 15:27.31 | emilsedgh | hm, i hadnt see it, but it seems kde3 |
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| 15:28.47 | quhan | I googled lots of page about userscript, they tell me konqueror support userscript. but I dont know how to make it do this. |
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| 15:40.16 | tomsdale | kwin has crashed I just have a black screen with a mousepointer. Is there a way to restart kwin from the commandline, I have an ssh shell? |
| 15:40.41 | mgraesslin | kwin --replace |
| 15:40.50 | cb400f | sounds more like a plasma crash :-) |
| 15:40.56 | cb400f | alt+f2 -> plasma-desktop |
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| 15:41.35 | cb400f | a kwin crash shouldn't give you a black screen.. just windows with no titlebar etc. |
| 15:44.00 | tomsdale | I can't even get up a shell in the X session. Alt-F2 no effect. On aother console 1if I issue the commands it cannot connect to the X-Server. Do I have to set the DISPLAY maybe? |
| 15:44.20 | mgraesslin | of course |
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| 15:59.36 | tomsdale | no success with controlling X session on another console - But I did get into my second user session by switching back into console 7. No more compositing on a server - that's when it crashed. thx @ u2 |
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| 16:18.15 | s__C | hello |
| 16:18.37 | s__C | i jsut wanted to know how to get the normal view for the menus with bespin (ie without using xbar) |
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| 16:18.58 | hagabaka | remove xbar? |
| 16:19.24 | s__C | no i mean not having the menus mac-like, but inside the frame of the program-window |
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| 16:20.43 | s__C | because i want to keep bespin and i think that xbar is part of bespin, no ?? |
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| 16:21.54 | s__C | nobody has an idea ?? |
| 16:22.18 | s__C | because i think i did a wrong manipulation, because yesterday my menus where fine |
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| 16:23.27 | hagabaka | you can use bespin without xbar, just remove it and menus should go back to windows |
| 16:23.37 | seal | p |
| 16:23.40 | seal | p |
| 16:23.42 | seal | p |
| 16:23.45 | seal | p |
| 16:23.50 | pinotree | seal: stop that |
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| 16:24.10 | seal | p |
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| 16:25.25 | s__C | it would be very nice if someone could explain me what to do. |
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| 16:26.13 | hagabaka | s__C: right click on an empty part of the menu bar (xbar), and choose "Remove this xbar" |
| 16:26.57 | s__C | hagabaka: thanks it worked... |
| 16:27.22 | s__C | strange because i wasn't running it last time but didn't have menus... |
| 16:28.06 | s__C | could someone tell me what retards the incoming of the 4.5 version in archlinux (official repositories) ??? |
| 16:28.26 | sreich | ask in #archlinux ? |
| 16:28.30 | pinotree | you should ask that in an archlinux channel, not here |
| 16:28.38 | sreich | pinotree: faster! |
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| 16:36.00 | MTGap | why do drop down menus look so bad in the kdewebkitpart? |
| 16:37.43 | Scunizi | I goofed.. opened Akonadi Configuration > Clicked on "Local Folders" > clicked on Modify > clicked Cancel .... now Akonadi doesn't know where the "Outbox" is for kmail.. how do I remedy this? |
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| 17:43.48 | atrius | hello everyone |
| 17:44.13 | atrius | i've got what may be a really silly question.. can anyone configure widgets on the screensaver or is it just me that can't? haha |
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| 17:54.56 | MTGap | atrius: what do you mean screensaver? the desktop? |
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| 17:55.44 | atrius | MTGap: screensaver.. clicking the various "configure widgets" button after allowing widgets doesn't seem to actually do anything |
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| 17:56.22 | Belserusk | Hi. Can I have a different KDE Wallet password and login password? |
| 17:56.48 | MTGap | atrius: what version of kde are you using |
| 17:57.02 | atrius | Belserusk: sure, why not? |
| 17:57.21 | atrius | MTGap: 4.4.4 |
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| 18:16.05 | dev001 | Everybody's "gone fishing for the weekend" over in #kontact. Any korganizer devs here/awake/available? |
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| 18:19.59 | lnxkde | guys I am like crazy |
| 18:20.31 | lnxkde | I am trying to connecto a mysql server from my machine and the remote server wont let me connect |
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| 18:21.00 | dev001 | lnxkde: What error msg? |
| 18:21.18 | lnxkde | Navicat could not connect to remote server |
| 18:21.28 | lnxkde | but I check if the port is open |
| 18:21.41 | dev001 | what's the error message at the remove server ... ? |
| 18:21.57 | lnxkde | and this is the output in the server: 3306/tcp OPEN |
| 18:22.08 | lnxkde | I dont get one. |
| 18:22.23 | lnxkde | I get the error in the machine I am working on. |
| 18:22.38 | lnxkde | the server I am connected via SSH checking the ports... |
| 18:23.40 | lnxkde | The remote server has a default server install of ubuntu. |
| 18:25.17 | lnxkde | I dont know where to look, the port is open in and I set iptables to open it too... |
| 18:25.46 | dev001 | lnxkde: have you tried connecting via other mysql client (@shell, MySQL QueryBrowser/Admin)? |
| 18:26.09 | lnxkde | nope never used nothing else |
| 18:27.09 | lnxkde | googling right now |
| 18:27.14 | dev001 | Personally, I'd try to rule out Navicat 1st. cref: http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/ |
| 18:27.57 | dev001 | and, of course, http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/connecting.html |
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| 18:28.56 | lnxkde | thanks dev001 I will check those out right now. |
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| 18:29.33 | lnxkde | let see if its navicat, I am a noob at server managment and now I took over a job that is 100% that |
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| 18:33.41 | dev001 | lnxkde: Do you have a webserver+php running on the DB server |
| 18:34.18 | lnxkde | no this is a fresh installed mysql server |
| 18:35.16 | lnxkde | rigth now the mysql is completely vanilla |
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| 18:35.33 | dev001 | lnxkde: fwiw, if mysql admin @shell is not for you, you can always install "phpMyAdmin" http://www.phpmyadmin.net. eliminates the worry about client connections. |
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| 18:36.57 | lnxkde | where is the my.ini ? |
| 18:37.11 | lnxkde | dev001: does that exist in a linux install? |
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| 18:37.51 | CruelCoke|WIN7 | my.ini is probably user-bound ini in non-user directory |
| 18:38.07 | dev001 | lnxkde: it does for opensuse (http://software.opensuse.org/search?p=1&baseproject=ALL&q=phpmyadmin) |
| 18:38.16 | CruelCoke|WIN7 | e.q. for user "dark", it's dark.ini |
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| 18:39.08 | lnxkde | It is a mysql configuration file used in Windows at lest |
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| 18:40.12 | dev001 | lnxkde: look for my.cnf |
| 18:40.56 | lnxkde | dev001: ok, lets see |
| 18:41.03 | lnxkde | its in /etc/mysql/ |
| 18:41.08 | lnxkde | brb |
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| 18:56.59 | lnxkde | dev001: I tried with the mysql client |
| 18:57.18 | lnxkde | and I cant get connected to it. |
| 18:57.45 | lnxkde | dev001: I am tring to get the support poeple from the serve company to let me know lol |
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| 18:57.55 | lnxkde | dev001: I am SUPER NOOB |
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| 19:00.47 | dev001 | lnxkde: it's a _hosted_ mysql? shared or dedicated host? who with? it's entirely possible they already provide a UI ... |
| 19:01.20 | lnxkde | dev001: with iweb and its a dedicated server running ubuntu |
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| 19:36.28 | boombatower | why not just on the panel? |
| 19:37.31 | boombatower | main reason I care is when new windows are opened they snap there instead of on the panel |
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| 20:26.29 | djustice | google 'rotate multiple images linux' |
| 20:26.49 | djustice | nothing kde... gnome/nautilus can do it. gwenview sez no. |
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| 21:00.50 | klorf | hi :( |
| 21:01.27 | klorf | KDE crash when i try start it |
| 21:02.24 | Trizt | I have an issue with kate, when working with two or more tabs, I mark something in tab1, then switch over to tab2 and then back to tab1, the marked text is deleted. The "Editing / General / Copy/Cut the current line if no selection" is disabled. How do I prevent the marked text to not be deleted? |
| 21:03.03 | klorf | KDE 4.4.2 |
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| 21:30.39 | joiner | hi again |
| 21:30.44 | joiner | any idea? |
| 21:31.29 | Space_Man | ? |
| 21:31.52 | joiner | I can't start KDE |
| 21:31.53 | Space_Man | suffers from short term memory loss |
| 21:32.03 | Space_Man | startx? |
| 21:32.21 | joiner | KDE crash |
| 21:33.41 | joiner | i use KDE 4.4.2 |
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| 21:35.57 | joiner | any idea |
| 21:36.26 | joiner | i use ATI free driver |
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| 21:37.32 | joiner | I'm in Xorg safemode |
| 21:37.54 | joiner | It isn't a Xorg problem |
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| 21:38.10 | Kenjiro | hello there |
| 21:38.28 | Kenjiro | does anyone remember the name of that application which is a picture manager for KDE? |
| 21:38.39 | Kenjiro | (one you can use to set tags on pictures, organize them, etc, etc) |
| 21:39.17 | neverendingo | digikam? |
| 21:39.31 | Kenjiro | no, not digikam |
| 21:39.37 | sreich | gwenview? |
| 21:39.38 | neverendingo | gwenview... |
| 21:39.43 | neverendingo | not much left :P |
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| 21:39.53 | Kenjiro | no, i would be a KDE application |
| 21:39.56 | Kenjiro | I mean... QT one |
| 21:40.01 | Kenjiro | (or so I think) |
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| 21:43.51 | joiner | any idea? :( |
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| 21:46.03 | Kenjiro | I heard about this software... like 1 month ago, during a presentation |
| 21:46.10 | Kenjiro | too bad I didn't take note of its name |
| 21:46.27 | Kenjiro | people said it would be something like 'picasa' |
| 21:46.31 | Space_Man | joiner: if your distro has an IRC chan, first ask in there as they will have more experience with similar installs |
| 21:47.02 | Space_Man | Kenjiro: maybe digikam |
| 21:47.24 | joiner | I tried it but nobody answer |
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| 21:49.13 | odla | hi two questions. 1) is there a way to figure out the height of a panel in pixels so that both my panels can be the same height. 2) is there a way to remove the extra 'cashew' as it's partially hidden by one of my panels? |
| 21:49.24 | Kenjiro | Space_Man: I am pretty sure the name wasn't digikam :( |
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| 21:52.05 | Space_Man | joiner: you could apply a classic windows fix - restart or reinstall some drivers ;) |
| 21:52.11 | odla | i'm on 4.5 btw |
| 21:52.19 | joiner | Id doesn't work |
| 21:52.52 | joiner | I tried running Kubuntu live-cd, It crash too |
| 21:54.10 | Space_Man | I also use kubuntu (but with kde3) and have similar problems with the live cd |
| 21:55.35 | Space_Man | at the start, when the installer asks for your language etc, I have to select random choices from the "noacpi, acpi=off etc" list |
| 21:55.49 | Space_Man | eventually something works and it installs |
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| 22:13.32 | djustice | ya. about the multiple image rotation: |
| 22:13.44 | djustice | imagemagick: 'convert -rotate 90 *' |
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| 22:14.06 | djustice | and it's easy to frontend.. |
| 22:14.11 | djustice | pokes the gwenview dude |
| 22:14.20 | djustice | flies bk to kdevelop |
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| 22:15.00 | bernardo | hi |
| 22:15.10 | bernardo | how can I get text-to-speech to work? |
| 22:15.21 | bernardo | do I have to download some plugin ? |
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| 22:22.40 | AlonzoTG | Why is the kde4 team systematically removing every good feature that had been in kde3? |
| 22:23.04 | hagabaka | ? |
| 22:23.13 | hagabaka | which features? |
| 22:23.23 | AlonzoTG | All of them. |
| 22:23.24 | Sho_ | takes hagabaka's troll fodder bag away |
| 22:23.37 | hagabaka | :O |
| 22:23.52 | AlonzoTG | Take a simple example, the little "new tab" and "delete tab" buttons on konsole. |
| 22:24.04 | AlonzoTG | now I actually have to dig in the menu to add a tab. |
| 22:24.05 | Sho_ | so renable them |
| 22:24.07 | AlonzoTG | that sucks. |
| 22:24.10 | AlonzoTG | ??? |
| 22:24.12 | AlonzoTG | huh, |
| 22:24.38 | AlonzoTG | JFC??? why is that even optional!!! |
| 22:24.43 | Sho_ | see the checkbox on the "Tabs" tab of the profile settings |
| 22:24.55 | Sho_ | 'Show New Tab an Close Tab buttons in tab bar' |
| 22:25.09 | AlonzoTG | Okay, lets move on to the next feature konsole 4 doesn't have. |
| 22:25.26 | hagabaka | some people use keyboard to control the tabs and don't need the buttons |
| 22:25.29 | AlonzoTG | Often applications will put a title in the status bar, it works with putty on 'doze, xwindows, konsole 3, why not konsole 4? |
| 22:25.48 | Sho_ | Configure the title settings of the profile to your liking |
| 22:26.12 | Sho_ | (This actually has a lot *more* features than KDE 3, where you couldn't configure it) |
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| 22:26.42 | AlonzoTG | I never wanted to configure it. |
| 22:28.14 | Kolia | AlonzoTG pwned |
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| 22:28.51 | hagabaka | next one? |
| 22:28.58 | AlonzoTG | kde 4 was an order of magnitude too slow to be usable as a desktop, I have been forced to use fluxbox. =((( |
| 22:29.17 | Sho_ | pinotree: he just went from a 5 to a 4 imho |
| 22:30.17 | pinotree | hmm... |
| 22:30.34 | leo_rockway | [2010-08-20 19:26:42] <AlonzoTG> I never wanted to configure it. <--- I could point out that KDE4 wasn't designed to please you, but to please a wider range of people, but I just don't feel like feeding. |
| 22:30.57 | AlonzoTG | I tried keeping symantic desktop disabled, but then akregator held my newsfeeds hostage until I did... |
| 22:31.07 | AlonzoTG | That is probably the single biggest misfeature in kde4 |
| 22:31.17 | AlonzoTG | Also, kdevelop4 can't hold a candle to kdevelop3 |
| 22:31.56 | AlonzoTG | Basically they ripped out every good feature an IDE needs and replaced it with a crappy immitation of every misfeature in Eclipse. =( |
| 22:32.18 | Kolia | and they loved it |
| 22:32.42 | leo_rockway | AlonzoTG: oh, I didn't know that. :( Care to show me the code of your IDE? |
| 22:32.45 | Space_Man | AlonzoTG: you could use kubuntu trinity |
| 22:32.48 | AlonzoTG | I have a package to maintain myself, ktechlab, and I can't because I don't have an IDE anymore. =( |
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| 22:37.47 | joiner | hi again |
| 22:38.01 | joiner | I can't start KDE |
| 22:38.03 | joiner | Could not open library ksmserver: Cannot load library /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_ksmserver.so: (libatiuki.so.1: no se puede abrír el archivo de objeto compartido: No existe el archivo o directorio) |
| 22:38.19 | joiner | startkde: Shutting down... klauncher: Exiting on signal 1 |
| 22:39.39 | joiner | libatiuki.so.1 ? |
| 22:40.11 | joiner | fglrx ? |
| 22:40.14 | Sho_ | that's part of the ATI graphics drivers I think |
| 22:40.26 | joiner | what can i do? |
| 22:40.41 | joiner | i unninstalled it |
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| 22:41.36 | Sho_ | hm off hand I have no idea sorry .. |
| 22:41.51 | joiner | :( |
| 22:43.01 | pinotree | joiner: you better ask in the channel of your distro |
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| 22:43.33 | joiner | Nobody anwer... |
| 22:43.56 | Sho_ | pinotree: lol, http://www.mail-archive.com/nepomuk-kde@semanticdesktop.org/msg00538.html |
| 22:43.58 | pinotree | be patient |
| 22:44.20 | joiner | i'll ask on #ati |
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| 22:46.49 | szal | joiner: what's your distro anyway? |
| 22:47.00 | joiner | Kubuntu |
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| 22:47.36 | joiner | fglrx unninstall problem :( |
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| 22:48.13 | szal | here no pkg management support |
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| 23:50.10 | r4tune | can i configure with the KDE window manager somehow for a specific window or application to lose focus if the mouse leaves it's area? |
| 23:50.25 | r4tune | or is there a program/work-around that will allow me to do this |
| 23:50.46 | r4tune | i don't want it to happen to most windows just a few |
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