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| 00:38.36 | gabriel9 | anyone know why i can't use setInterval() function in plasmoid which i develop in JS? |
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| 00:42.19 | Jucato | gabriel9: try #plasma |
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| 00:43.44 | gabriel9 | thank you, but i asked them and no one is helping. |
| 00:47.26 | Jucato | then I guess you'll have to wait for someone to be available there. that's the best (and most appropriate) place to get answers to programming questions for Plasma |
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| 01:03.27 | hdtdi | hi, if i want to run kde is it enough to install kde-core or i need at least kdebase? |
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| 06:09.22 | padde | hm... testing trunk from yesterday night... kmail-migrator is surely memory hungry with my mailbox... currently uses ~650MB memory and took nearly five hours, on pretty recent hardware |
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| 06:14.52 | Tanktalus | index.docbook:7: warning: failed to load external entity "dtd/kdex.dtd" |
| 06:15.19 | Tanktalus | Any idea what happened to that file? It's not being found during a compile of kmuddy :-/ |
| 06:15.34 | Tanktalus | Did it move or something? |
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| 06:56.03 | unclemike | kde 4.5 how do i make the taskbar transparnt |
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| 06:57.08 | cb400f | the panel is made transparent by using a plasma theme with a transparent panel .. _and_ having gfxcard/gfxdriver which supports compositing |
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| 06:57.22 | cb400f | do you have intel gfx by chance? |
| 06:58.26 | unclemike | nvidia |
| 06:58.53 | d3x | _and_ having compositing enabled |
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| 06:59.12 | d3x | shift+alt+f12 to switch desktop effects on/off |
| 06:59.24 | unclemike | so i cant go anymore transparent then it all ready is |
| 06:59.39 | d3x | you can change a theme |
| 06:59.43 | TripleRhu | unclemike/ go to system settings |
| 06:59.44 | d3x | or edit one |
| 06:59.54 | TripleRhu | choose the second optionsâ |
| 07:00.03 | TripleRhu | choose to use effects |
| 07:00.10 | TripleRhu | goto the last tap |
| 07:00.21 | TripleRhu | change OpenGL to |
| 07:00.24 | TripleRhu | XRender |
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| 07:03.13 | unclemike | already effects enabled....but just switched to XRender |
| 07:03.31 | TripleRhu | ok |
| 07:03.42 | TripleRhu | is it working now, unclemike? |
| 07:04.24 | unclemike | yeah |
| 07:04.30 | TripleRhu | ok |
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| 07:06.08 | unclemike | how can i make firefox match my color schemes |
| 07:07.31 | TripleRhu | uâll probably be able to set it on the settings window |
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| 07:10.10 | unclemike | plus thats what this gtk-qt-engine is for isent it |
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| 07:30.10 | menak | hi |
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| 07:32.11 | menak | A couple of days ago i noticed my address book is empty in kde 4.4. After an emerge sync yesterday kde got updated to 4.5, but the contacts remain gone. There should be hundreds of contacts in there. Is this a known bug of kde 4.4/4.5? |
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| 07:33.35 | cb400f | the addressbook was rewritten to use akonadi for 4.4 |
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| 07:33.56 | cb400f | your old 4.3 contacts should have been migrated to akonadi/mysql |
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| 07:38.33 | menak | cb400f: well, yes, but it's not working |
| 07:39.11 | menak | cb400f: FYI: mysql works like a charm on the machine |
| 07:39.24 | cb400f | prolly a distro issue.. maybe you still have the .vcf in .kde/share/apps/kabc/ and can import it in the new addressbook manually |
| 07:39.40 | menak | cb400f: i'll check that |
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| 07:40.19 | menak | yep, still there |
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| 07:42.38 | menak | cb400f: no chance. the "import" menu item doesn't work in the address book... |
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| 07:43.38 | menak | cb400f: i can click "File"->"Import" but then nothing happens |
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| 07:44.32 | menak | cb400f: there's an arrow behind the menu item "Import", but the menu doesn't expand |
| 07:45.27 | cb400f | worksforme.. I'm on 4.4.4 though.. and 4.5 is not released btw ;-) |
| 07:48.52 | menak | cb400f: umm, right, 4.4.5 that is |
| 07:49.53 | menak | cb400f: i did a akonadictl restart, it seems to be a nepumuk / dbus problem |
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| 08:09.17 | Tuju | is there an policy about UI features, like exiting an application? Kmail still doesn't exist if you choose File -> Quit |
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| 08:26.53 | pingufan | Hello, I experience meanwhile the 4th laptop whenre knetworkmanager is not correctly working with WLAN. This started on openSuSE 11.1 and is still the same with openSuSE 11.3. Can somebody, please, help? |
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| 08:35.05 | lollwut | pingufan : from my experience, knetworkmanager is not very good for wireless. try using wicd |
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| 08:40.20 | miss_riss | Hi can anyone explain to me how to get different wallpaper for each desktop activity? |
| 08:40.35 | miss_riss | Go to desktop activity setting then.. what? |
| 08:41.47 | buntfalke | Hi |
| 08:43.41 | Walex | miss_riss: "activity" is KDE4-speak for something that is a lot less exciting that an "activity" :-) |
| 08:44.34 | lollwut | miss_riss : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/kde-4-4-want-different-wallpaper-for-virtual-desktops-808329/ |
| 08:45.31 | miss_riss | worships the link lollwut provides. |
| 08:45.32 | miss_riss | Thank you. |
| 08:45.33 | pingufan | Can someone, please, help me with knetworkmanager? |
| 08:45.44 | lollwut | no problemo ;) |
| 08:47.12 | lollwut | pingufan: like I said before, knetworkmanager isnt very good for wlan. try wicd instead |
| 08:47.24 | miss_riss | Now do you know how I can center my desktop activity? I had no idea I could move my desktop. |
| 08:47.32 | pingufan | With WICD, must I use ifup method ? |
| 08:47.34 | miss_riss | Or even disable the ability to move desktop with the mouse. |
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| 08:49.08 | miss_riss | Wait, actually nvm. |
| 08:49.12 | miss_riss | Thank you lollwut. |
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| 08:49.51 | lollwut | pingufan : not sure if i understand |
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| 08:50.49 | pingufan | opensuse allows to chosse how to start the network interfaces. I can use traditional ifup method or usage of knetworkmanager. Later one works not with WLAN |
| 08:52.01 | lollwut | i dont think you have to use ifup with wicd |
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| 08:52.49 | lollwut | just install wicd and start it up. i don't think you will face problems |
| 08:53.35 | pingufan | When will this be fixed in KNM |
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| 08:54.38 | glda19 | hi |
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| 08:55.42 | glda19 | why cna't i browse my local lan by dolphin |
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| 08:58.01 | glda19 | why cna't i browse my local lan by dolphin |
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| 08:58.30 | miss_riss | Actually yeah I don't want to be able to move the desktop pager / activity / whatever it is called now with the mouse, how can I disable that? D: |
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| 09:00.27 | lollwut | right click > desktop settings : there should be a 'lock view' checkbox there |
| 09:01.17 | glda19 | why cna't i browse my local lan by dolphin |
| 09:01.34 | pinotree | glda19: please be patient, stop ask again and again |
| 09:01.36 | miss_riss | right click only shows Desktop Activity Settings... and nope.. no lock view. |
| 09:02.15 | miss_riss | I'm on 4.4.3. |
| 09:03.08 | lollwut | sorry no idea |
| 09:03.24 | pingufan | Phew ... Seems to work. |
| 09:04.36 | lollwut | pingufan: congrats dude :D |
| 09:04.39 | glda19 | why cna't i browse my local lan by dolphin |
| 09:05.17 | miss_riss | glda19, is that the only thing you can ask? If so, you need to setup your connection to your lan. |
| 09:05.24 | miss_riss | That's not really the prob of KDE. |
| 09:05.32 | miss_riss | More or less your flavor / networking issue. |
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| 09:06.46 | pingufan | I restarted the laptop and I get asked for root password for wicd to be run. Normal? |
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| 09:07.37 | miss_riss | pingufan, yes. |
| 09:07.49 | miss_riss | But not every time, that's your setting prob. I think you need to setup your rc.d. |
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| 09:09.14 | glda19 | what fore network issue |
| 09:09.28 | glda19 | when i give the ip it works |
| 09:10.17 | pingufan | miss_riss: Das it have a daemon in the background which has to be started? |
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| 09:11.32 | miss_riss | glda19, so it works. |
| 09:11.38 | miss_riss | pingufan, yes. |
| 09:11.45 | miss_riss | wicd is the daemon. |
| 09:12.39 | pingufan | Why did I see no WLANs until I restarted /etc/init.d/wicd ? |
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| 09:13.58 | miss_riss | pingufan, dunno, the Force possibly. |
| 09:15.22 | glda19 | miss_riss |
| 09:15.41 | glda19 | miss_riss what did you mean |
| 09:16.23 | miss_riss | glda19, perhaps I'm just not sure what your problem is. |
| 09:16.47 | glda19 | when i go to dolphin network |
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| 09:18.29 | pingufan | Is there no way to start it automatically as root? |
| 09:19.00 | pingufan | Seems to be not finished. |
| 09:19.01 | miss_riss | pingufan, hm ask your distribution channel I'd guess. |
| 09:19.07 | miss_riss | It's not really a KDE problem. |
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| 09:19.18 | miss_riss | glda19, perhaps you did not setup your network right? |
| 09:19.31 | glda19 | why can't i see by dolphin my network |
| 09:19.42 | pingufan | When will KNM be fixed? |
| 09:19.53 | pingufan | It embeds better into KDE. |
| 09:20.21 | lollwut | pingufan : even the developers dont know i guess :D |
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| 09:22.25 | miss_riss | lollwut, hm how did you get the term lock view? Trying to google the problem but to no avail. |
| 09:22.30 | miss_riss | Do you have the option? |
| 09:23.19 | lollwut | miss_riss, i got the lock view only when I used one of the 'mandlebrot' wallpapers |
| 09:23.47 | miss_riss | Me too. |
| 09:23.53 | miss_riss | I get the lock view when I use the mandlebrot.. hm.. |
| 09:24.12 | lollwut | how is your desktop 'moving' anyway? |
| 09:24.22 | miss_riss | I can move it. |
| 09:24.25 | miss_riss | Hold on I show you a screenshot. |
| 09:24.29 | lollwut | oki |
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| 09:28.12 | glda19 | why can't i browse the local lan by dolphin |
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| 09:28.37 | miss_riss | http://www.rhisa.com/look.jpg |
| 09:28.41 | miss_riss | See the mouse pointer lollwut? |
| 09:28.46 | miss_riss | It denotes that I can move the desktop itself. |
| 09:29.02 | miss_riss | glda19, when you click on network, what error do you get? |
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| 09:30.31 | lollwut | hmmm i guess i have the solution. just wait a sec |
| 09:31.09 | glda19 | no network |
| 09:31.19 | glda19 | miss_riss no error |
| 09:31.21 | miss_riss | glda19, you did not set it up correctly! D: |
| 09:31.30 | miss_riss | If you don't see the desired network, how about setting up the LAN to accept your node? |
| 09:33.03 | glda19 | by the ip it works |
| 09:33.07 | glda19 | not by the name |
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| 09:33.44 | miss_riss | Oh, now that's more specific, you'll wait for someone who knows then. :) |
| 09:35.37 | lollwut | miss_riss, i tried, no results |
| 09:35.43 | miss_riss | lollwut, aww... |
| 09:35.45 | lollwut | sounds like a bug :D |
| 09:35.46 | miss_riss | But you do know what I mean right? :D |
| 09:35.51 | lollwut | yes |
| 09:35.54 | miss_riss | Yay!! |
| 09:36.18 | lollwut | oh, did you try locking the widgets? |
| 09:36.47 | lollwut | BTW, also try changing the desktop activity type to 'folder view' |
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| 09:37.41 | miss_riss | Why would I do that? D: |
| 09:37.49 | glda19 | miss_riss what must i have to do to let it work |
| 09:38.09 | miss_riss | glda19, I don't know, sorry. |
| 09:38.26 | lollwut | miss_riss, just try both of them |
| 09:39.21 | miss_riss | Hm I can't mvoe the desktop but I also can't scroll to go to my other desktops. lol |
| 09:39.33 | miss_riss | Wait nvm I can. Nice! |
| 09:39.48 | miss_riss | Now a slight problem. It still shows a hand instead of arrow. |
| 09:40.37 | lollwut | try restarting X |
| 09:41.02 | miss_riss | Gah I have so many windows opened... |
| 09:41.06 | miss_riss | Okay sec let me close all first. |
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| 09:42.54 | pingufan | wicd is crap. Is there nothing better? vicd only randomly works here. |
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| 09:44.16 | riza | Nice! One last problem, I can't scroll in the third desktop activity, dunno why. |
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| 09:46.50 | alban | Hi all |
| 09:47.08 | alban | are there known issues between nvidia and KDE 4.4.4 ? |
| 09:47.27 | alban | running it on opensuse 11.3 and it's really slow |
| 09:47.27 | riza | alban, probably but I don't think it'll affect you. I use nvidia and KDE 4.4 too. |
| 09:47.48 | alban | riza: well I don't know what'swrong then |
| 09:48.11 | riza | Oh you can't scroll lollwut. |
| 09:48.14 | riza | I didnt' know.. |
| 09:48.14 | riza | Blah. |
| 09:48.33 | alban | opening yakuake takes seconds, and leads Xorg to eat 90% of CPU time |
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| 09:50.46 | riza | And yeah I think it's a bug lollwut cause I just started X and made it all Desktop View rather than Folder, and I can't move the desktop like I could earlier. Definitely a bug. |
| 09:52.20 | lollwut | riza: yeah, kde has some weird problems which aren't always bugs, but still weird |
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| 09:53.26 | riza | lollwut, let's get ropes and a tickle toy, and get these devs! |
| 09:53.46 | lollwut | XD |
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| 10:00.29 | pablo_ | Hi there, could anybody tell were KDE-3 stores default font settings ? I need to set the default font size by hand. |
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| 10:01.49 | d3x | pablo_, i'd look in .kde and/or .qt ; i haven't used kde3 for almost two years now |
| 10:03.27 | pablo_ | the problem is I'm not using it either, but I'm using kdevelop-3.5.10 and I wan't to change the font sizes in a new mandriva installation that doesn't has kde3 anymore |
| 10:03.56 | pablo_ | so I installed just kdelibs and there's no file with any font setting inside .kde |
| 10:04.08 | d3x | you can use kdevelop for kde4 |
| 10:04.31 | d3x | or you can't? |
| 10:04.46 | pablo_ | but kde4 lacks of qmake handling, so I'm using kdevelop3 |
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| 10:20.01 | glda19 | why can doplhin only work with the ip address |
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| 10:25.34 | d3x | glda19, ? |
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| 10:25.57 | glda19 | d3x what ? |
| 10:26.20 | d3x | glda19, what do you mean by 'why can dolphin only work with the ip address'? |
| 10:26.24 | glda19 | d3x what is het best why to browser a local lan with a |
| 10:26.46 | glda19 | suse linux and other pc's vista and xp |
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| 10:29.32 | glda19 | d3x are you here |
| 10:29.51 | d3x | i am. i have no answer, though |
| 10:29.59 | d3x | i just click 'network' and browse it |
| 10:30.10 | d3x | usually failing, cause samba is fsckd ;) |
| 10:30.26 | d3x | (windows' implementation as well) |
| 10:31.24 | glda19 | d3x i did the following |
| 10:31.41 | glda19 | smbclient -L laptop |
| 10:31.54 | glda19 | i see the shares |
| 10:33.03 | glda19 | but i've got the message Connection to laptop faild(Error nt_status_unsuccessful) |
| 10:33.23 | glda19 | netbios over tcp disabled |
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| 10:35.35 | glda19 | d3x help |
| 10:36.06 | d3x | i have no idea |
| 10:36.13 | d3x | fix your windows boxes (by installing debian) |
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| 11:12.25 | gabriel9 | ok, all in Plasma channel are bussy, is there anyone in here who write plasmoids in JS? |
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| 11:12.49 | spidermario | I do |
| 11:13.03 | gabriel9 | i don't need code, or something like that. The docs are not complete, and i have some questions. |
| 11:13.33 | spidermario | I may or may not be able to answer them |
| 11:13.40 | spidermario | I'm going to try. |
| 11:14.04 | gabriel9 | spidermario: i try to use plasmate, and i wish to break my code in sepereate files. How to connenct them? |
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| 11:15.12 | gabriel9 | eng is not my primary lang, so i am sorry for bad spelling |
| 11:15.20 | spidermario | It's not mine either |
| 11:16.33 | spidermario | some people recommend not using global variables in JavaScript and instead making them members of one global object |
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| 11:16.49 | spidermario | you could try to emulate a module system like that, then concat your js files :/ |
| 11:17.08 | gabriel9 | so there is no import or include... |
| 11:17.44 | spidermario | maybe there is one but I don't know it. |
| 11:19.17 | gabriel9 | hm, this is realy bad, but i will try to search cure for it. |
| 11:19.37 | gabriel9 | one more question: is there threads? |
| 11:19.47 | gabriel9 | like workers in JS |
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| 11:20.46 | gabriel9 | webworkers * |
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| 11:23.24 | pablo_ | could anybody tell were KDE-3 stores default font settings ? I need to set the default font size by hand. |
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| 11:32.36 | thomasfuston | Aloha, is there a reason and known bug, why kopete cant connect to wlm (aka msn) ? |
| 11:33.03 | cb400f | worksforme (4.4.4) |
| 11:35.20 | thomasfuston | hmm, ok i got 4.4.2, i guess have to update then |
| 11:35.59 | cb400f | it worked for me in 4.4.2 too.. dunno if there have been changes to the protocol since |
| 11:36.30 | cb400f | I'd ask my distro to find out if others have the same problem there |
| 11:36.34 | thomasfuston | well i just asking, couse dont see any reason why it dont work |
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| 12:13.02 | AlexZion | hi everyone , I have some problem with kde 4.5 rc2 , can I ask here ? or there is a specific channel ? |
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| 12:18.41 | enkidu | AlexZion, what is your problem? |
| 12:20.12 | AlexZion | plasma-desktop crashes any time I switch on my system and than runs again .... |
| 12:20.57 | enkidu | AlexZion: let me guess. there are small windows without content, that you are closing when system starts? |
| 12:20.58 | AlexZion | I'd like just to give to the developer this information , I don't care about it .... |
| 12:21.18 | AlexZion | actually not ..... |
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| 12:21.52 | enkidu | backup your plasma config, remove original content, then try starting |
| 12:22.03 | AlexZion | and another small problem is with the systray and the hidden staff |
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| 12:22.24 | enkidu | AlexZion: most problems are with systray now |
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| 12:23.34 | AlexZion | when I try to open it , just comes up for few second and then desappear again ... |
| 12:24.23 | AlexZion | ok enkidu where I can find the plasma config file ? |
| 12:24.35 | enkidu | you can describe it on #plasma |
| 12:24.51 | enkidu | AlexZion: .kde/share/config/plasma* |
| 12:24.56 | enkidu | or .kde4 |
| 12:25.03 | enkidu | depending on distro |
| 12:25.14 | AlexZion | my distro is kubuntu 10.04 |
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| 12:26.23 | enkidu | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.42 | enkidu | copy all matching files to safe place, then remove the originals |
| 12:26.47 | AlexZion | I have a lot of file called plasma*something , whichone should I remove ? |
| 12:26.56 | AlexZion | all of them ? |
| 12:27.33 | enkidu | do something like this: |
| 12:28.06 | enkidu | mkdir ~/plasma.bak && mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~/plasma.bak/ |
| 12:28.22 | enkidu | or .kde4, if such a dir exists |
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| 12:30.12 | AlexZion | I don't have .kde4 folder ... |
| 12:31.06 | AlexZion | ok enkidu..., of course doing it , I'll lose all my customizations of plasma I guess ? |
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| 12:33.15 | enkidu | when you move the files, you are only disabling them |
| 12:33.33 | enkidu | as you still have backup copy in ~/plasma.bak |
| 12:34.05 | enkidu | then you can restart your plasma-desktop and find, which plasmoid is making plasma unstable |
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| 12:35.10 | AlexZion | yeah , i got it , but in any case , I'll have to put bak any plasmoid I'm using right now ..... |
| 12:35.33 | AlexZion | ok , to restart plasma ? I have to restart the system , or can I do it running some command ? |
| 12:35.43 | sebas | plasma-desktop |
| 12:35.58 | sebas | You can stop it nicely with "kquitapp plasma-desktop" |
| 12:36.14 | AlexZion | ok , thanks sebas ;) |
| 12:36.33 | sebas | yw |
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| 12:37.19 | enkidu | sebas: isnt kquitapp doing the same, as killall -15 ? |
| 12:37.47 | sebas | I don't know, you'd have to check the sources |
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| 12:57.05 | AlexZion | enkidu: I did the change and it looks much better , thanks for your help mate ;) |
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| 13:38.54 | wootwoot | is it just me or is KDE forum really down? |
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| 13:39.30 | Alumin | is there a way to get KMail (running inside Kontact, if it matters) to completely refresh an IMAP connection? |
| 13:40.06 | Alumin | one of my IMAP accounts (to the MS Exchange server, surprise surprise) keeps having problems and I have to restart KMail to clear it up |
| 13:40.28 | Alumin | (the issue is that certain mailboxes, usually Inbox, start refusing to refresh) |
| 13:41.59 | Alumin | wootwoot: I can't connect either |
| 13:42.16 | Alumin | http://forum.kde.org/ is what you're referring to I assume |
| 13:42.31 | wootwoot | Alumin, yes |
| 13:42.39 | Alumin | http://www.kde-forum.org/ on the other hand is up. :) |
| 13:43.43 | Alumin | not quite the same thing, of course |
| 13:44.21 | wootwoot | yes, yes |
| 13:45.34 | moofang | wootwoot: http://identi.ca/notice/45115250 :) |
| 13:45.57 | wootwoot | if i remember correctly, there was a bit of bad blood about the kde-forum.org on this channel a few months back ;) |
| 13:46.03 | Tanktalus | new computer running kde:4.5, can't get KDE to recognise my sound card, though using sox works (albeit a bit loud)... any ideas where to look? |
| 13:46.40 | cb400f | are you saying non-kde apps have sound? |
| 13:47.54 | Tanktalus | The only non-kde app I know of that I have installed which works is 'play' from sox. |
| 13:48.11 | Tanktalus | I don't know if I have any other non-kde app that has sound. |
| 13:48.28 | Tanktalus | 99% of the time I want sound, it's amarok :-) |
| 13:48.47 | Tanktalus | oh, of course there's the flash plugin for firefox... let's see if I even have it installed :-) |
| 13:49.37 | Tanktalus | of course... I don't. Installing now :-) |
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| 13:51.06 | Tanktalus | cb400f: yes, adobe-flash works. |
| 13:52.11 | cb400f | then I guess you have to look at the phonon configuration.. pulseaudio etc... better ask your distro |
| 13:52.17 | Tanktalus | And vlc works, too... |
| 13:52.22 | cb400f | and of course be aware that 4.5 is not released |
| 13:52.31 | Tanktalus | ok. My distro is gentoo, so it's pretty raw :-/ |
| 13:53.08 | Tanktalus | Yeah, I know - I'm running rc3, although I'm missing some pieces because the tarballs got pulled from the kde mirrors before I could get them all (I think I'm missing some kde artwork and kdesdk). |
| 13:53.27 | Tanktalus | Is there any way to force phonon to rescan? |
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| 14:06.15 | avenir | hello. is kde written in c or c++? |
| 14:06.53 | thiago | avenir: C++ |
| 14:07.40 | pablo_ | could anybody tell were KDE-3 stores default font settings ? I need to set the default font size by hand. |
| 14:08.12 | Jucato | pablo_: try ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobal (or kdeglobals) |
| 14:08.21 | Jucato | (that's the per-user settings) |
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| 14:08.53 | avenir | thiago: thank you |
| 14:09.51 | pablo_ | Jucato: nothing about fonts in there, I'm not running kde3, I just have kdelibs and kdevelop3, do I need to add some lines to globas ? |
| 14:10.32 | Jucato | sorry, I don't know |
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| 14:10.57 | pablo_ | ok, np |
| 14:11.07 | thiago | if you don't see anything there, you have the default fonts |
| 14:11.13 | thiago | but it's still the same file for configuring |
| 14:12.23 | pablo_ | but, I want to change the defaults, so I need to add there something like Font=... , what do I need ? I mean, there's a lot of fonts, toolbar/title/etc ... |
| 14:13.56 | Twilo | hello, it seems that I have a problem with my panel. A part of the panel ist dark (black); the panel is grey if the width is smaller than 100%. why? |
| 14:14.04 | Twilo | screenshot: http://gallery.debianforum.de/v/verschiedenes/BilderVomForum/black_panel.png.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 |
| 14:14.08 | thiago | pablo_: the easiest is to run kcontrol |
| 14:14.36 | pablo_ | thiago: I don't have it, I just installed kdelibs and kdevelop, I'm running kde4 but I need kdevelop3 |
| 14:15.04 | thiago | pablo_: it's the same format as your KDE 4 settings |
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| 14:15.31 | pablo_ | thiago: ok then, i'm cheking it ... |
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| 14:16.56 | wootwoot | Twilo, i remember that happening on an unstable version of KDE i was trying out a few months ago. not sure how to fix it though |
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| 14:17.22 | pablo_ | thiago: Thank's a lot man, working grate ! |
| 14:17.24 | nyRubyist | Meh, I am having no luck in finding this |
| 14:17.31 | nyRubyist | I wanna just send stuff to the notifications via command line |
| 14:17.37 | nyRubyist | isn't there a command line utility for that? |
| 14:17.42 | nyRubyist | knotify or something like that? |
| 14:17.58 | thiago | nyRubyist: kdialog |
| 14:18.12 | nyRubyist | thiago: thanks! |
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| 14:19.40 | Twilo | wootwoot: I have this problem on two computers with kubuntu 10.04 and one computer with debian sid |
| 14:20.24 | wootwoot | sorry no clue about that :( |
| 14:20.44 | CMoH | hello. on my system plasma-workspace consumes a lot of CPU and is very unresponsive. is this known? |
| 14:21.05 | CMoH | is there any workaround to this? |
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| 14:21.42 | avenir | i would like to learn C++ to participate in KDE and apps for KDE development. would you recommend any specific development environment for that? |
| 14:21.53 | enkidu | CMoH: can you try disabling all plasmoids, then start enabling them one by one |
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| 14:22.27 | CMoH | thanks, enkidu - does that include the window list? |
| 14:22.37 | enkidu | CMoH: all plasmoids, no exception |
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| 14:23.10 | enkidu | sometimes there are bugs, that makes particular plasmoid use too many resources |
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| 14:24.14 | cb400f | yesterday a guy had the problem with the smooth tasks plasmoid :-) |
| 14:24.28 | CMoH | hmm... i think a better design would have been to keep each plasmoid in its process space |
| 14:25.18 | CMoH | besides the safety, right now i would have seen plasmoid-X eating up cpu instead of shooting in the dark |
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| 14:27.14 | enkidu | CMoH: afair they are separate threads, it is safe enough, but to trace thread usage you have to use more specific tools, like performance counters |
| 14:29.20 | CMoH | hmmm... how do you isolate crashing plasmoids |
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| 14:30.01 | CMoH | anyway, this is not the issue right now |
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| 14:31.09 | cb400f | most of the time you can assume that the offending plasmoid doesn't come from kdebase or kdeplasma-addons.. but some "unofficial" place |
| 14:31.27 | cb400f | so start looking at those ones |
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| 14:31.41 | enkidu | or blame your distro developers, if they failed with packaging |
| 14:31.54 | CMoH | wtf, it's the clock |
| 14:32.08 | enkidu | analog one? |
| 14:32.15 | CMoH | no |
| 14:32.41 | enkidu | digital clock that comes with kde? |
| 14:32.53 | CMoH | seems like it |
| 14:33.38 | CMoH | after removing it cpu stopped going between 0% to 12% (which is actually 100/8 cores) |
| 14:33.45 | CMoH | and all is responsive |
| 14:33.57 | CMoH | oh, look, plasma workspace just crashed :) |
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| 14:34.23 | thiago | 12% of one core |
| 14:34.32 | thiago | if you have 8 cores at full CPU, you have 800% |
| 14:34.37 | CMoH | nah, 12% of 8 cores |
| 14:34.39 | Tanktalus | where does the kontact notebook keep its notes? |
| 14:35.05 | CMoH | depends on the top/htop/system activity viewer actually |
| 14:35.06 | thiago | so top shows plasma at 100% CPU? |
| 14:35.16 | CMoH | not anymore |
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| 14:35.47 | enkidu | which kde and which qt version? |
| 14:36.06 | cb400f | Tanktalus: you mean kjots? or knotes? .. sounds most like kjots.. that should be .kde/share/apps/kjots/ .. for now |
| 14:36.27 | cb400f | unless you got the kdepim 4.5? |
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| 14:36.42 | Tanktalus | yeah, it's probably kjots - knotes is the sticky-pad-type of notes, right? |
| 14:37.49 | CMoH | plasma-workspace 4.4.4, qt 4.6.2 |
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| 14:40.28 | CMoH | hmm, enkidu, might be a problem after resuming from sleep/hibernate |
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| 14:47.09 | enkidu | CMoH: what is your video card driver? |
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| 14:52.23 | khaije|amalt | how can i toggle 'sticky keys' from command line? ideally i'd like to bind it to a key on my keyboard? |
| 14:52.47 | thiago | there is a key fo rit |
| 14:52.58 | thiago | I think it's Shift Shift Shift Shift Shift |
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| 14:56.46 | khaije|amalt | thiago: ok, i'll try that out thanks |
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| 15:06.35 | Tanktalus | where does kmail keep track of identities? |
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| 15:08.07 | cb400f | .kde/share/config/emailidentities |
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| 15:10.59 | CMoH | enkidu, nvidia driver, 195.36.24 |
| 15:11.03 | CMoH | btw, i'm using gentoo |
| 15:11.05 | CMoH | amd64 |
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| 15:12.50 | CMoH | everything runs soo smooth now |
| 15:13.20 | CMoH | i'll monitor the situation, since the lag appears in time |
| 15:14.14 | Tanktalus | cb400f: thanks! |
| 15:14.28 | enkidu | CMoH: afair nvidia drivers dont like suspend |
| 15:14.51 | Tanktalus | I had to start over on my .kde directory... but wanted to keep lots of settings, so I'm slowly copying them back... mostly for apps and the like, not so much for kde itself. |
| 15:15.13 | cb400f | does that every 8 months :-) |
| 15:15.30 | CMoH | enkidu, didn't seem that way until a week or so |
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| 15:18.08 | Tanktalus | cb400f: uck! Now I need to find where the outgoing mail config is stored... :-) |
| 15:18.24 | BtbN | Is there support for upcoming xine 1.2 with a newer kde-release? |
| 15:18.35 | cb400f | that would be the kmailrc I should think |
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| 15:18.54 | BtbN | Cause i need vdpau support, which is only in recent xine, and i also don't want to loose phonon |
| 15:19.11 | cb400f | it breaks compatibility with old phonon backend? |
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| 15:19.30 | cb400f | anyway it seems the vlc backend is the future :-/ |
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| 15:20.12 | Tanktalus | cb400f: doesn't seem to be :-/ |
| 15:20.21 | BtbN | cb400f, yeah, phonon backend refuses to use it |
| 15:20.30 | BtbN | if i force it(edit CMakeLists.txt), it fails to compile |
| 15:21.37 | cb400f | Tanktalus: you are using the 4.4 pim right? |
| 15:21.45 | Tanktalus | cb400f: gawds, yes :-) |
| 15:21.47 | cb400f | .. you're not using the 4.5 beta kdepim? |
| 15:21.57 | cb400f | ok.. with gentoo users you have to ask :-) |
| 15:22.03 | Tanktalus | I tried the 4.5 beta kdepim for, oh, 15 minutes. |
| 15:22.14 | Tanktalus | About as long as it took to re-mask it :-) |
| 15:22.34 | Tanktalus | "with gentoo users you have to ask" ... hey, I resemble that remark. :-P |
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| 15:24.22 | cb400f | .kde/share/config/mailtransports seems to be the one |
| 15:26.44 | Tanktalus | cb400f: thanks ... not sure why I couldn't find it... oh ... yeah. Didn't know what key words to look for :-P |
| 15:28.14 | khaije|amalt | thiago: shift x5 didn't work, can you think of any other way to activate 'sticky keys' from command line? |
| 15:29.02 | khaije|amalt | i can't hold down shift to activate it b/c my keyboard doesn't register 'holds' for modifier keys properly which is why i need to use sticky keys |
| 15:30.15 | sreich | khaije|amalt: you must have disabled it then.. |
| 15:30.23 | sreich | just run systemsettings and go to accessibility |
| 15:31.43 | khaije|amalt | sreich: i'm only using sticky keys because of a problem with a bt keyboard |
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| 15:32.38 | khaije|amalt | when i press and hold a modifier key such as <shift> it only registers as a micro-second press |
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| 15:33.47 | sreich | khaije|amalt: ok, well enable it |
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| 15:35.14 | khaije|amalt | i'm using sticky keys as a sw work-around for a hw problem. it would be fine except when i walk away from my pc the bt keyboard disconnects and deactivates the sticky keys work around meaning i need to apply it every 5 minutes depending on how i'm working |
| 15:35.37 | sreich | that's why I told you to enable it.. |
| 15:35.46 | sreich | enable the five-shift activation... |
| 15:36.53 | khaije|amalt | i thought maybe there was a dbus-ified way to handle this? but if not thats fine |
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| 15:45.33 | johnf_ | how to access android phone - is this the best place to ask? |
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| 15:48.32 | cb400f | I guess you should ask the phone maker :-) |
| 15:48.53 | cb400f | what interfaces does it offer for access.. and what specifically do you want to access |
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| 15:50.59 | johnf_ | cb400f: I actually don't know - I read that 11.3 supports android phones but I can't find any info. I did plug the phone into the usb port but I get nothing? |
| 15:52.58 | cb400f | wasn't that claim about nautilus? |
| 15:53.47 | cb400f | hm.. nah.. it's banshee.. :-| |
| 15:54.20 | johnf_ | banshee the music player? |
| 15:54.37 | cb400f | http://wiki.opensuse.org/images/a/ab/OSS113-android.jpg |
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| 15:56.03 | johnf_ | Oh I saw that jpg but I assume (you know what that word means) that it was an example. So it only works with banshee? |
| 15:56.42 | cb400f | that's what I'd think.. maybe other gnome tools too |
| 15:57.00 | cb400f | if it's using gvfs or something.. better ask some gnomers about the details |
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| 15:57.17 | johnf_ | I not worried about music - OK thanks |
| 15:57.59 | cb400f | .. but I'd still think you can send and receive files via bluetooth ... or plug in an usb cable and make it appear as usb mass storage like most other phones |
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| 15:59.32 | enkidu | true, bluetooth is rather universal way |
| 15:59.46 | enkidu | (still, why cannot use blueftp in kdu?) |
| 15:59.48 | enkidu | kde* |
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| 16:02.22 | James147 | johnf_: android phones work well under linux, but you need to setup the phone first, normally there is a prompt on the phone to mount it as a stroage device or similar... need to that on the phone before linux can see it |
| 16:03.19 | enkidu | James147: linux can see it in any case, just descriptor changes (modem, storage, sometimes camera) |
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| 16:04.24 | James147 | enkidu: either way, the device notifier picks it up in storage (mounted) mode |
| 16:05.19 | enkidu | true. but still - when kde will support obexftp again? |
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| 16:21.29 | Tanktalus | this is annoying... kde 4.4.95 can't detect my sound cards :-( |
| 16:21.47 | Tanktalus | and I can't figure out what it needs :-( |
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| 16:23.41 | thiago | kde doesn't detect sound cards |
| 16:23.46 | thiago | ALSA and PulseAudio do |
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| 16:26.01 | Tanktalus | thiago: ok, then why does adobe-flash and vlc play audio just fine? :-( |
| 16:26.09 | Tanktalus | is sooooo confussed. |
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| 16:27.19 | enkidu | Tanktalus: still, kde relies on Phonon backend |
| 16:27.29 | tgillespie_ | Hi all, does anyone else running trunk have a problem with window switching? I have to put a lot of effort into apressing alt tab, pressing it quickly won't work like it used to |
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| 16:27.45 | Tanktalus | enkidu: Right... so how do I figure out why Phonon is confused about my setup? :-/ |
| 16:28.10 | Tanktalus | Maybe I should try #phonon? |
| 16:28.15 | Blacktail | hi al |
| 16:28.37 | Torch | Tanktalus: which phonon backend are you using? |
| 16:28.41 | enkidu | Tanktalus: if in Systemsettings> Sound devices there are no entries, try installing phonon-backends and restart pulseaudio |
| 16:28.59 | Tanktalus | Torch: Xine - it's my only option :-) |
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| 16:30.19 | thiago | install gstreamer |
| 16:31.32 | Tanktalus | thiago: ok, I assume I'll have to restart kde for that to affect anything? |
| 16:32.15 | enkidu | Tanktalus: do you have pulseaudio running? |
| 16:32.34 | Tanktalus | enkidu: no, I just use alsa |
| 16:32.55 | enkidu | with dmix enabled? |
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| 16:33.36 | Tanktalus | hmmm ... dmix? |
| 16:33.52 | enkidu | alsa software miker |
| 16:34.01 | enkidu | mixer* |
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| 16:35.01 | Tanktalus | I'm not sure - there's no executable named "dmix", but I'm not sure that tells me anything. |
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| 16:37.04 | thiago | Tanktalus: no, no restarting is necessary |
| 16:37.12 | Tanktalus | thiago: tried it anyway :-) |
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| 16:39.08 | Tanktalus | gotta go for a bit... will need to work on it more later :-/ |
| 16:40.00 | beer | is there a reaspm why |
| 16:40.23 | beer | is there a reason why kde 4.5 was delayed? |
| 16:41.37 | mxttie|work | maybe they ran out of beer? |
| 16:41.52 | mxttie|work | or http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/08/kde-release-day-for-450-delayed.html |
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| 16:43.32 | icwiener | I tried to use the review mode of Okular but the notes I added are not there anymore after closing the document. |
| 16:43.47 | beer | tx for the link |
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| 16:43.53 | icwiener | Are the notes saved somewhere? |
| 16:44.02 | Tanktalus | fer cryin' out loud... disable the "Show advanced devices" and suddenly "ALSA default output" shows up, and THAT works. |
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| 16:45.33 | Tanktalus | but amarok still doesn't want to work? |
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| 16:46.47 | Tanktalus | and the sound/video configuration doesn't want to keep my output device preference order :-( |
| 16:47.02 | enkidu | Tanktalus: maybe your system update broken alsa settings? |
| 16:47.47 | Tanktalus | hmmm? |
| 16:48.32 | enkidu | if you made some update to your system, it is possible, that some scripts changed your config |
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| 16:49.11 | enkidu | btw do you know any plasma style, that has flat systray area? |
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| 17:10.24 | piggz | hi...the buttons for shutdown/restart are missing from my kickoff menu, any idea what would cause that? |
| 17:11.27 | Roin | maybe your user doesnt have the privileges to shutdown and/or restart your comp? o_O |
| 17:11.42 | sreich | are you using kdm? |
| 17:12.02 | Kolia | piggz: you started from gdm or startx ? |
| 17:12.33 | piggz | erm....it auto logs in, using kdm i think |
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| 17:13.14 | piggz | only happened after upgrade to 4.5 |
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| 17:16.24 | piggz | i see various settins for it in the policykit manager |
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| 17:17.36 | kang | mm how do you make konqueror use webkit kpart once its installed? (kde4.5) (kde forum is down) |
| 17:17.42 | piggz | and ive changed them to allow console and active console |
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| 17:21.10 | piggz | tho it doesnt seem to keep the settings |
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| 17:34.54 | Kenjiro | hello there |
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| 17:35.27 | Kenjiro | does anybody know why konqueror/rekonq can't find the flash plugin I have in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins? |
| 17:36.38 | Kenjiro | ah, the flash plugin is 64bit, not 32 |
| 17:36.45 | Kenjiro | on firefox it works just fine |
| 17:40.09 | spidermario | no problem for me, with the 64 bits one |
| 17:40.25 | Kenjiro | spidermario: using konqueror or rekonq? |
| 17:40.35 | spidermario | konqueror |
| 17:40.42 | Kenjiro | very weird |
| 17:41.00 | Kenjiro | the "scan for plugins" doesn't find the plugin. If I run nspluginscan, it finds it :( |
| 17:41.13 | Kenjiro | but even then... I can't see flash stuff using konqueror :( |
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| 18:02.06 | Tanktalus | enkidu: well, this is a new system, so I'm not sure that it was ever working ;-) |
| 18:02.55 | enkidu | Tanktalus: you can try editing your .asoundrc to provide dmix, but here probably can help you alsa guys, not me |
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| 18:05.02 | Kenjiro | any hints on what I should do to try and fix this flash plugin problem on konqueror/rekonq? |
| 18:06.36 | Tanktalus | enkidu: I got the test to work ... I just can't get rid of the ESD output, nor move it to below the "default ALSA" item in preferences... |
| 18:07.59 | Tanktalus | aha... starting the esound daemon works :-/ |
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| 18:08.50 | enkidu | Tanktalus: strange. I can move them without any problems (4.5.0) |
| 18:09.02 | Tanktalus | I moved them. |
| 18:09.05 | Tanktalus | They didn't stay. :-/ |
| 18:09.57 | enkidu | works here |
| 18:10.41 | enkidu | how the f*** I have 4.5.0, when topic claims, that is gonna be released?? |
| 18:11.34 | Tanktalus | what distro? |
| 18:11.38 | enkidu | mdv |
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| 18:12.32 | cb400f | several distros already packaged the tarball they _thought_ would be 4.5 |
| 18:12.34 | Tanktalus | maybe they compiled the tarballs that were about to be released as 4.5.0 and released it in an attempt for a simultaneous release? |
| 18:12.38 | cb400f | .. happens all the time |
| 18:13.09 | Tanktalus | The 4.5.0 ebuilds are already in gentoo ... I just don't have access to the tarballs (as far as I'm aware), so I can't actually install it yet. |
| 18:13.16 | enkidu | maybe |
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| 18:14.08 | enkidu | anyways, some bugs are fixed (that one with systray for sure) |
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| 18:33.34 | dziadu | hi |
| 18:33.58 | dziadu | can you tell me how does print to PDF works in KDE? It doesn't use lpr, right? |
| 18:34.19 | dziadu | how I can use KDE printer dialog from command line? |
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| 18:40.30 | d3x | dziadu, it uses cups afaik. and you can use cups from command line |
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| 18:42.45 | thiago | d3x: print to PDF is just rendering into PDF |
| 18:42.51 | thiago | dziadu: ^^^^ |
| 18:43.05 | thiago | dziadu: lpr and CUPS are for controlling printers |
| 18:43.12 | thiago | the PS and PDF generation happen in the application |
| 18:43.25 | d3x | thiago, oh, i thought it uses cups-pdf for this task. thanks for the info :) |
| 18:43.51 | enkidu | d3x: in some cases it can be in this way |
| 18:43.59 | enkidu | (system pdf printer) |
| 18:44.00 | dziadu | thiago: first it convert to ps and then to pdf? |
| 18:44.49 | Twilo | it seems that I have a problem with my panel. a part of the panel ist dark (black); the panel is grey if the width is smaller than 100%. I have this problem on two computers with kubuntu 10.04 and one computer with debian sid (kde 4.4.5). how can I fix this problem? screenshot: http://gallery.debianforum.de/v/verschiedenes/BilderVomForum/black_panel.png.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1 |
| 18:45.17 | dziadu | my problem is, when I print my image in pdf to pdf file using okular, then my output file is nice A4 ppaer, byt when I use lpr -o media=a4 -P cups-pdf picture.pdf then my output still is the same size like before |
| 18:46.05 | dziadu | thiago: so I want to reproduce result of okular printing, but I need to run it from script |
| 18:46.11 | dziadu | any ideas how to? |
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| 18:47.33 | enkidu | dziadu: I would play around with latex to put image on page, but I am extremist |
| 18:47.43 | thiago | dziadu: no, it renders into PDF |
| 18:47.48 | thiago | dziadu: there's no PS |
| 18:48.14 | dziadu | thiago: can I call this (kde printing system) from command line? |
| 18:49.45 | thiago | there is no printing system |
| 18:50.00 | thiago | each application is capable of rendering to PS and PDF |
| 18:50.15 | thiago | the print dialog simply sends that PS or PDF to CUPS, which in turn talks to the printer |
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| 18:53.51 | lpjhjdh | so how does zeroconf:/ work? avahi-browse and the X "Avahi Discovery" programs bring up more stuff than does zeroconf:/ |
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| 19:35.21 | dziadu | thiago: do you know maybe why lp ignores all my options like: -o media=a4 -o scaling=75 ? |
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| 19:46.28 | N9NU | does anyone know the command to 'patch' a file that is part of KDE? I am trying to apply a .patch file for a context menu for Dolphin. KDE is:Platform Version 4.5.00 (KDE 4.5.0) |
| 19:47.57 | sreich | patch -p0 < mypatch |
| 19:48.10 | N9NU | ah...very good...thank you |
| 19:48.16 | sreich | while in that directory or parent |
| 19:48.23 | N9NU | correct. tnx |
| 19:48.36 | sreich | yeah, never did like the patch command's oddball syntax |
| 19:48.57 | N9NU | i never remembered the method...i hardly ever use it ;) |
| 19:49.12 | N9NU | it would be nice to create a QT patch app thingy |
| 19:49.35 | sreich | there is kompare, or kdiff3 |
| 19:50.11 | N9NU | oh yeah...i stumble across Kompare a lot, but never really knew what it was fo |
| 19:50.13 | N9NU | r |
| 19:50.20 | sreich | brb |
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| 20:20.39 | solidus-river | hey guys, i'm using gentoo with amarok 2.3.1-r2 and amarok fails to start, i get some dbus communications warnings is this a known bug? |
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| 20:22.11 | solidus-river | here is a pastebin of the error http://pastebin.com/Dsyk8C2M |
| 20:22.59 | Tanktalus | solidus-river: I think I had that problem at one point... are you running kde 4.4.9*, too? |
| 20:23.17 | Tanktalus | Try amarok-9999, though that comes with the entire mysql overhead :-) |
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| 21:11.13 | AL13N | the virtal keyboard on plasma has qwerty even though the regular keyb uses azerty... what settings can i doublecheck? |
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| 21:30.39 | anditosan | aseigo: thanks for your comments on my latest blog post |
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| 21:34.08 | aseigo | anditosan: which one |
| 21:34.09 | aseigo | ? |
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| 21:34.29 | anditosan | the one about selections and highlights |
| 21:34.44 | anditosan | you commented on someone's assertion in the comments section |
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| 21:35.53 | Guest60804 | when gnome 3 is release kde will be kill |
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| 21:36.29 | anditosan | aseigo: do you do graphic design as well? |
| 21:37.13 | aseigo | anditosan: no .. i've been involved in art direction before though ... |
| 21:37.22 | aseigo | ah.. that one, right.. |
| 21:37.34 | anditosan | yeah |
| 21:37.39 | anditosan | that's good man |
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| 21:37.52 | anditosan | aseigo: where are you from? |
| 21:38.04 | aseigo | Guest60804: you are what we call a troll, goodbye. |
| 21:38.07 | *** mode/#kde [+b Guest60804!*@*] by aseigo |
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| 21:38.34 | aseigo | anditosan: geographically? canada .. west coast .. though i've lived elsewhere as well |
| 21:38.41 | sreich | I don't know if it's one guy or a team of them, but (he) comes in here every week or 2 |
| 21:38.47 | sreich | saying about the same exact thing |
| 21:39.04 | anditosan | cool, I am from Chile but I live in Utah. |
| 21:39.08 | aseigo | trolls and maybe wishful thinking |
| 21:39.09 | sreich | lol, you'd think people would have better uses for time..but.. |
| 21:39.27 | aseigo | there are many sad people out there |
| 21:39.36 | pinotree | patpats aseigo |
| 21:39.48 | sreich | patpats pinotree |
| 21:39.57 | aseigo | hugs pinotree and sreich and anditosan ... group hugs! |
| 21:40.03 | sreich | yay :) |
| 21:40.14 | anditosan | gracias/thanks |
| 21:41.06 | anditosan | dude, I've had some ideas lately that I wanna make come true, but I am not a programer at all. I can only make mockups. Would you be willing to help me out by creating some of these ideas? |
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| 21:41.41 | aseigo | anditosan: i'm willing, yes. but my time these days is already overbooked, sorry :( |
| 21:41.53 | aseigo | anditosan: so it really isn't a matter of wanting, it's just not having the hours in the day right now ... |
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| 21:42.04 | anditosan | gotcha |
| 21:42.05 | aseigo | anditosan: there may be others out there, of course :) |
| 21:42.16 | anditosan | that's no big deal. Do you know people who would be available? |
| 21:42.24 | sreich | anditosan: suppose you could run them by him (if he wants) and if the green is obtained, then find some other suckers to help :) |
| 21:42.27 | aseigo | wishes kde would go back to being a little less successful for a while so he could have some time back :) |
| 21:42.45 | aseigo | yeah, i can probably help with vetting ideas and what not. .. or at least providing feedback ... |
| 21:43.07 | sreich | aseigo: not that I enjoy giving you more work.. ;-p |
| 21:43.09 | anditosan | that's always welcome |
| 21:43.32 | anditosan | sreich: that's a good idea |
| 21:44.24 | anditosan | sreich: i guess Aaron can contact the ones who can do the work. But the thing is that the idea needs to get big for it to be doable. I have had ideas before (of course) and they have not become real popular, so no one has been interested in coding them |
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| 21:45.01 | sreich | "But the thing is that the idea needs to get big for it to be doable." strange logic..and untrue :) |
| 21:45.28 | anditosan | you sure? I've asked for coding help before, but no good results out of it |
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| 21:46.00 | sreich | easier/smaller tasks are almost always easier to get help on |
| 21:46.13 | sreich | especially if it's some kind of bug..or functionality improvement |
| 21:46.19 | anditosan | my main idea right now is to work on dolphin |
| 21:46.28 | sreich | and also..bigger ideas tend to be crazier |
| 21:46.31 | sreich | mad scientist crazy, sometimes.. |
| 21:46.33 | anditosan | yeah, true that |
| 21:47.47 | anditosan | well, I got this thing that I want to radically change things sometimes, but I can slow down with dolphin. My idea is to work out the interface and layout as well as the options contained in doklphin. It would be a tweaking job. |
| 21:48.37 | anditosan | aseigo: what did you end up doing with the arrow switching idea? |
| 21:48.50 | sreich | if it is dolphin..you may want to bring it by ppenz |
| 21:49.12 | sreich | since it's his baby and he's anal (in a good way) when it comes to dolphin. both code-wise & ui-wise |
| 21:50.29 | anditosan | well, we'll see what I can do. I guess I will blog about dolphin first and then talk to him |
| 21:50.43 | sreich | that works |
| 21:51.22 | AL13N | i found out that, if the keyb layouts are disabled, the virtual keyboard always qwerty shows, even if there the connected keyboard is azerty (and works) |
| 21:51.45 | anditosan | sreich: if I want to work on system settings manager, who do i talk to? |
| 21:52.04 | AL13N | (kde 4.4.3) |
| 21:52.08 | sreich | anditosan: no idea |
| 21:52.25 | sreich | anditosan: why, what do you have in mind? I hope it isn't another major rearrangement of kcm's |
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| 21:52.37 | sreich | since 4.5 just had a major overhaul wrt that. |
| 21:52.43 | anditosan | sreich: I am trying to work on simplicity with it |
| 21:52.58 | anditosan | sreich: a reductionist approach to the layout and options |
| 21:53.04 | sreich | ok |
| 21:53.13 | sreich | anditosan: in #kde-devel you could ask |
| 21:53.19 | anditosan | sreich: ok |
| 21:53.34 | sreich | I can't remember, but I think bcooksley was a part of it...but I could be completely wrong ;-) |
| 21:53.40 | anditosan | and what about theming, who is in charge of the oxygen window style? |
| 21:53.51 | sreich | hpereira |
| 21:53.57 | sreich | usually hangs out in #oxygen |
| 21:54.10 | sreich | well, always does. since he does the coding for the style |
| 21:54.43 | anditosan | ok, that's sweet |
| 21:56.59 | anditosan | well, that's good information |
| 21:57.17 | aseigo | anditosan: nothing more than i said in the blog: i published a patch (it's still were i linked to it from) ... if it wishes to live a long and prosperous life, it will need someone to pick it up |
| 21:58.13 | anditosan | aseigo: did you read about the BeOS menu? would that be something hard to code under plasma? |
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| 22:02.17 | enkidu | is there channel for kdepim? |
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| 22:05.10 | aseigo | anditosan: yes, i did. and no, it wouldn't be. |
| 22:05.12 | aseigo | enkidu: #kontact |
| 22:05.39 | enkidu | ty |
| 22:06.53 | anditosan | ok |
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| 23:10.33 | solidus-river | Tanktalus: Thanks for thi input, sorry i got distracted by #amarok it was deferently a mysql problem for some reason the default was not set to enable the embedded use flag |
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