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| 00:23.12 | rx | hi all. got an offtopic question... what is the best prepackaged preview version of kde sc 4.5 (iso)? |
| 00:23.27 | rx | opensuse? |
| 00:24.43 | rx | i do not feel like messing with my current kubuntu installation... just wanna play with it inside a vm |
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| 00:41.15 | Magui | hello, all. I did a safe-upgrade a couple of weeks ago, and I'm having some trouble with kde now. mostly looks and runs normally, except that any mouse-click in a GUI app takes a long time to produce a response (like clicking on a button, or clicking on a menu item). |
| 00:41.57 | Magui | this only affects GUI apps. at the command-line, everything runs fine. I am hoping someone else in here has run into this, and has a quick fix. |
| 00:42.37 | Magui | here's some information about my set-up. the affected computer is a laptop running debian squeeze, kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64, kde version 4.4.5. |
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| 00:43.46 | Magui | I had been running kde 4.4.4 when this problem first started (I believe I was running it for about two weeks with no problems at the time). I saw that sid was up to version 4.4.5 last week, so I upgraded all the kde packages that I saw there, in hopes of fixing this. it doesn't seem to have changed anything. |
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| 00:52.33 | MIH1406 | Hi, I want to get pot (po template) files for KDE 4.5 and KDE 4.6 |
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| 00:59.51 | maazu | g'bye |
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| 01:00.16 | oneforall | hmm how do i change the color of the popup when I goto print . it pretty but its pick bg and yelloe text :) |
| 01:00.34 | oneforall | and still I get the darn knotify crash. |
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| 01:22.37 | eportel6607HOME | Anybody here know how to add the URL link to the branding image embedded into the kickof menu? |
| 01:24.21 | eportel6607HOME | I've done this before in KDE4 on my last project and it was very easy, however for some reason it will not work in this version of KDE. Is there more than one way to add a branding URL to this image? |
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| 01:46.30 | vwbusguy | how can I setup openoffice to use the KDE file chooser? (KDE 4.4.5, Fedora 13) |
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| 01:49.13 | Jucato | vwbusguy: try asking in #fedora-kde if they have a package for that |
| 01:51.07 | oneforall | so hows it going with quanta ? or is there soemthign better ? |
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| 02:10.53 | tagum | What's the command line to start an xterm window that is always on top? |
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| 02:40.51 | deco | hello i think kde with effects on is leaking memory |
| 02:40.57 | deco | X is consuming 173MB of ram |
| 02:43.12 | oneforall | thats all |
| 02:43.13 | oneforall | :) |
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| 02:46.29 | powtrix | virtual you mean? |
| 02:47.00 | deco | powtrix: nope |
| 02:47.29 | deco | oneforall: well compiz with x only consumes 30mb mx |
| 02:47.31 | deco | max* |
| 02:48.56 | oneforall | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.40 | deco | oneforall: O_O |
| 02:51.49 | deco | how much ram do you have oneforall |
| 02:52.06 | oneforall | 8gb |
| 02:52.12 | thiago | deco: run xrestop |
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| 02:53.07 | Alt_of_Ctrl | how can I disable multihead on kde? |
| 02:53.47 | deco | thiago: what will that do ? |
| 02:53.57 | deco | oneforall: 2 gigs here :P |
| 02:56.17 | thiago | deco: it will show you which processes are taking up X memory |
| 02:56.25 | thiago | Alt_of_Ctrl: disconnect one or more monitors |
| 02:56.31 | deco | thiago: okay awesome thanks |
| 02:57.07 | Alt_of_Ctrl | thiago, what? |
| 02:57.56 | thiago | Alt_of_Ctrl: if you don't want multihead, don't use more than one monitor |
| 02:58.06 | Alt_of_Ctrl | ... |
| 02:58.27 | Alt_of_Ctrl | i want to use it but without KDE multihead |
| 02:59.28 | thiago | KDE has no multihead |
| 02:59.31 | thiago | X has that (xinerama) |
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| 03:00.32 | Alt_of_Ctrl | http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables#KDE_MULTIHEAD |
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| 03:00.38 | thiago | please explain what is happening and what you wanted to happen |
| 03:00.52 | Alt_of_Ctrl | i have two monitors |
| 03:00.57 | Alt_of_Ctrl | and kde grabs de two |
| 03:01.00 | thiago | which video card? |
| 03:01.04 | Alt_of_Ctrl | nvidia |
| 03:01.16 | thiago | one video card with two outputs? |
| 03:01.20 | Alt_of_Ctrl | yes |
| 03:01.22 | thiago | ok |
| 03:01.32 | thiago | run nvidia settings and turn one monitor off |
| 03:01.54 | Alt_of_Ctrl | and? |
| 03:01.58 | thiago | and that's it |
| 03:02.02 | thiago | you won't be using multihead |
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| 03:04.15 | Alt_of_Ctrl | but KDE has variable to multihead |
| 03:04.58 | thiago | ignore that variable |
| 03:05.22 | Alt_of_Ctrl | lol |
| 03:06.54 | thiago | the variable doesn't make sense |
| 03:07.16 | thiago | did you configure your NVidia driver for separate X screens, or TwinView mode? |
| 03:07.40 | Alt_of_Ctrl | separate |
| 03:08.06 | thiago | ah, that explains |
| 03:08.12 | thiago | well, you're on your own. No one tests that. |
| 03:09.47 | thiago | are you sure you don't want TwinView? |
| 03:13.07 | tagum | What is TwinView? |
| 03:13.34 | Alt_of_Ctrl | twinview but the desktop across the monitors |
| 03:13.38 | Alt_of_Ctrl | i dont' want that |
| 03:14.23 | thiago | you're sure you want two desktops, one in each monitor? |
| 03:14.37 | thiago | you've been warned: that is not tested at all and is probably very broken |
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| 03:17.03 | Alt_of_Ctrl | thiago, I read about it |
| 03:17.11 | Alt_of_Ctrl | I will test it |
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| 03:30.41 | r4tune | does anyone know how I can make kdesu respect my PAM settings |
| 03:30.56 | r4tune | I use an authentication token for login, but KDEsu insists i enter my root password |
| 03:31.36 | r4tune | if i look at the output it reads the auth token module, and just ignores what it says then goes and asks for root pass |
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| 05:41.29 | pupit | hi, how to stop blueman applet completely ? |
| 05:42.30 | pupit | my KDE version is 4.4.3 Slackware 13.1 |
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| 05:44.39 | yugiohjcj | hello, I am on Slackware 13.1 and I use KDE. The processus : /usr/bin/blueman-applet is always launched at startup and I would like it doesn't. |
| 05:44.52 | yugiohjcj | how to do this? |
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| 05:48.11 | pupit | yugiohjcj: yo, |
| 05:48.35 | pupit | have to change kdeinit4 |
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| 06:55.27 | kat1c | how come kde got rid of the desktop icons? |
| 06:57.09 | cb400f | it didn't get rid of them, it put them in a nice, managable folder view widget, instead of splattering them uncontrolled all over the desktop |
| 06:58.12 | cb400f | I guess the main reason was to avoid widgets and ~/Desktop/ content getting in each other's way |
| 06:58.14 | emilsedgh | kat1c: if you want them, you can get them back. |
| 06:58.56 | emilsedgh | right click om desktop -> desktop settings -> activity -> desktop |
| 06:59.17 | cb400f | nah, windows95 mode is the "folder view" activity |
| 06:59.19 | emilsedgh | the change the type to folder view |
| 06:59.24 | cb400f | right, sorry |
| 06:59.25 | kat1c | ok |
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| 08:18.59 | G__81 | i am trying to convert myself from gnome to kde as such. i am using KDE 4.4 in f13 and i really like it but i just want to know whether i could get the same gnome-terminal colors in Konsole ? |
| 08:19.41 | G__81 | i do a white foreground and black background for code but though i use the same Courier 10 pitch fonts i see a difference between gnome and KDE and as well colors |
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| 08:21.07 | cb400f | I wouldn't expect many people here to have much experience with gnome-terminal ;-) |
| 08:21.39 | G__81 | :) |
| 08:22.24 | G__81 | but it would be good if the code fonts that i get are quite similar to gnome terminal |
| 08:23.46 | cb400f | I guess font rendering differing is inevitable |
| 08:24.44 | G__81 | hmm i understand thats right but just trying to get as close as i could :) |
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| 08:27.21 | G__81 | cb400f, with respect to window borders i see an option called "Decoration theme engine" in Control panel. Whats the advantage of using that i am using that and there is an option called Get New themes also |
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| 08:28.46 | cb400f | hm.. I guess that's aurorae.. only advantage is prolly that the windeco is more and easier themable |
| 08:29.27 | G__81 | yes its Aurorae |
| 08:29.27 | cb400f | in kde different windecos have different features etc.. they're not just superficial themes |
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| 08:39.10 | Marchitos | is anybody using 4.4.95 or 4.5 trunk? |
| 08:40.04 | emilsedgh | me |
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| 09:43.23 | shocklateboy92 | hello |
| 09:43.27 | shocklateboy92 | anyone alive in here? |
| 09:43.41 | pinotree | don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 09:43.57 | shocklateboy92 | okay |
| 09:44.02 | shocklateboy92 | it's about KDE 4.5 |
| 09:44.15 | shocklateboy92 | if I have 2 wait any longer for it, i'll probably pull all my hair out |
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| 09:44.25 | shocklateboy92 | i want 2 install the beta |
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| 09:44.45 | shocklateboy92 | well, the RC |
| 09:45.16 | shocklateboy92 | but I've never really installed a DE (or anything) from the unstable repo |
| 09:45.19 | shocklateboy92 | if I do |
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| 09:45.35 | shocklateboy92 | then will I have 2 uninstall it when it is actually released? |
| 09:45.55 | pinotree | you should ask that in the channel of your distro |
| 09:46.12 | shocklateboy92 | oh |
| 09:46.26 | shocklateboy92 | isn't this the fedora-kde channel? |
| 09:46.33 | pinotree | no, this is #kde |
| 09:46.40 | shocklateboy92 | (i'm using a new IRC client and the layout is confusing) |
| 09:46.42 | shocklateboy92 | oh |
| 09:46.47 | shocklateboy92 | alright, I'll do that then |
| 09:46.54 | shocklateboy92 | sorry 2 waste your time |
| 09:46.56 | shocklateboy92 | :) |
| 09:47.01 | pinotree | no waste done... |
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| 09:54.26 | crocket | I can't use compositing of KWin in FreeBSD. |
| 09:55.18 | crocket | This is Xorg.0.log. http://www.pastebin.org/438104 |
| 09:56.01 | crocket | Does anybody have a clue why this is the case? |
| 09:57.32 | lemma | crocket: have you tried to do it without auto-detecting compositing settings? beware though, it might make your desktop unusable. |
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| 09:59.37 | crocket | lemma : how can I do that? |
| 09:59.58 | crocket | without auto-detecting? |
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| 10:00.14 | lemma | crocket: in systemsettings -> desktop -> effects -> (third tab, don't know the english label) |
| 10:00.43 | crocket | Only the first tab is available for now. |
| 10:01.25 | crocket | There are "General" "All Effects" "Advanced" tabs. |
| 10:01.56 | mgraesslin | open your kwinrc, search for section [Compositing], set Enabled to true |
| 10:02.05 | mgraesslin | remove any line containing isSafe |
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| 10:02.30 | mgraesslin | and set DisableChecks=true |
| 10:02.47 | mgraesslin | save and restart kwin and prepare for X crashing in the worst case |
| 10:02.54 | crocket | There is no kwinrc |
| 10:03.06 | mgraesslin | ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc |
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| 10:10.30 | crocket | Hi |
| 10:10.37 | crocket | It doesn't work with OpenGL. |
| 10:10.49 | crocket | KWin only works with XRender when compositing. |
| 10:12.44 | crocket | Do I need to turn on AIGLX in /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
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| 10:12.52 | crocket | AIGLX is turned off by default. |
| 10:13.01 | mgraesslin | yes |
| 10:13.32 | mgraesslin | but at least on Linux system Compositing related options are enabled by default |
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| 10:14.53 | crocket | I'm using FreeBSD. |
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| 10:18.28 | mgraesslin | yeah I read that, that's why I sait that on Linux it's like that, but I have no idea how that is on other systems |
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| 10:25.54 | [Steven_M] | kde's spell checker's not working, how do find out what backend it's trying to use? |
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| 10:45.40 | szal | meh.. who took away the square root button from KCalc? |
| 10:45.54 | szal | how am I supposed to calculate a square root now? |
| 10:47.53 | Jucato | szal: Shift button in the calculator turns x^2 to sqrt |
| 10:48.11 | crocket | I'm using FreeBSD, AIGLX is turned off by default, and KWin complains it can't use OpenGL compositing while direct rendering is yes according to glxinfo. |
| 10:48.25 | crocket | What can I do? |
| 10:48.43 | gkiagia | enable aiglx |
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| 10:49.36 | szal | Jucato: ah, thx |
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| 11:17.57 | crocket | Hi |
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| 11:18.47 | vikas | need a help on linux |
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| 11:19.50 | vikas | huwai 1260 |
| 11:20.03 | vikas | my problem is when i disconnect internet from network manager |
| 11:20.16 | vikas | i need to unplug and plug modem to usb again |
| 11:20.26 | vikas | why it is so |
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| 12:56.14 | DrSlony | Help, I was recording a video using qt-recordmydesktop and when my /tmp got full, the kde desktop disappeared (no crash message, just black). My other windows are fine. What do I type in alt+f2 to get the desktop/workspace/whatever you call it back? |
| 12:58.40 | cb400f | plasma-desktop |
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| 13:03.12 | DrSlony | hmm |
| 13:03.15 | DrSlony | ah! |
| 13:03.16 | DrSlony | its back |
| 13:03.18 | DrSlony | <3 cb400f |
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| 13:16.59 | Eddi|zuHause | hi. when i use dolphin, "inactive" hard disks often spin up while they aren't actually accessed. i presume this is because dolphin is checking subdirectories (e.g. for displaying the "number of entries" in the size column). can that be disabled (or use cached values more often) if the subdirectory is a mount point, or if the symbolic link would cross partition boundaries? |
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| 14:43.12 | DrSlony | Hey, will kde 4.5 support wpa2 encrypted wifi networks? |
| 14:43.25 | DrSlony | so we dont need to struggle with wpa_supplicant |
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| 14:44.43 | cb400f | tsk, tsk.. knm/nm plasmoid have always supported that.. but that is unrelated to kde sc 4.5 as they're on a seperate schedule |
| 14:45.06 | cb400f | you prolly wanna talk to your distro about that |
| 14:47.03 | DrSlony | they supported wpa2 encrypted networks too? I thought only unencrypted or wep |
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| 15:10.56 | BtbN | DrSlony, KDE is not the software that connects to your W-Lan. |
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| 15:16.33 | DrSlony | BtbN: im asking whether there is a kde program (frontend) that uses whatever program it needs to connect to wpa2 networks. |
| 15:18.28 | BtbN | knetworkmanager should be able to configure wpa_supplicant |
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| 15:48.45 | ahmos | hi, when kde 4.5 final will be released? |
| 15:49.00 | thiago | when it's done... |
| 15:49.39 | ahmos | it was said in the website next week, is there a specific date |
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| 16:21.29 | kkrev | I'm running KDE on Fedora 13 and I can't change the screensaver kick-in time. I have power management off and the screen saver set to lock the screen after an hour, but no matter what it kicks in after something like ten minutes. |
| 16:22.02 | kkrev | is this most likely a fedora thing? |
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| 16:32.02 | G__81 | had a look @ gnome 3 and i dont see the advantage of so many work spaces |
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| 17:58.06 | tntc | Do KIO slaves work in stuff like Kaffeine and Amorok? |
| 17:58.55 | tntc | Amarok*? because as far as I have seen, I can navigate to files all I want, but playing them throws up errors like "Input plugin for MRL fish://<host>:<filename> not found" and stuff like that. |
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| 18:02.18 | sreich | tntc: yes, both apps support it afik |
| 18:02.24 | sreich | tntc: have you tried !fish? |
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| 18:02.31 | tntc | sreich: sftp, sure. |
| 18:02.41 | tntc | sreich: or do you mean I need something like nfs? |
| 18:02.54 | sreich | well, it should all work |
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| 18:03.31 | xxtjaxx | tntc: is your intend to "stream" th files to your local device? |
| 18:03.36 | tntc | sreich: especially since that was the whole point of KIO slaves, yeah? |
| 18:03.42 | sreich | yeah :) |
| 18:03.58 | tntc | xxtjaxx: my intent is to watch videos and listen to music stored on a different machine, rather than copying the files over. |
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| 18:05.00 | xxtjaxx | tntc: which is a way of streaming and is posible mostly with block based network storage systems as smb and nfs not file based or what the name was |
| 18:05.29 | xxtjaxx | tntc: nfs is such blockbased protocol best bet is to use that instead of sftp |
| 18:05.35 | tntc | xxtjaxx: works fine in gnome via .gvfs over sshfs. Are you saying that KIO isn't up to the task and I need to switch to NFS? |
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| 18:07.26 | xxtjaxx | I suppose gvfs is sort of caching there or doing another way of crude mojo to work around the constraints of the underlying protocol basicalyl it really isnt KIOs failure |
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| 18:08.04 | tntc | xxtjaxx: the whole point of KIO is to make the remote share appear and act like a local disk. If it can't do that, then it's a KIO failure. |
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| 18:08.43 | tntc | or perhaps a Kaffiene and Amarok failure. |
| 18:09.43 | xxtjaxx | tntc: a sorry yes as I had a quick look I mixed up nf adn smb are filebased protocols maybe KIO just didnt do the funny mojo :/ |
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| 18:11.06 | xxtjaxx | tntc: but yes it should do that and KIO isn to blame |
| 18:11.35 | tntc | xxtjaxx: so what is to blame? who should I file the bug with? |
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| 18:12.15 | xxtjaxx | KIO. Or if you can or know a lil c/c++ maybe take a leap in fixing it? |
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| 18:13.36 | tntc | xxtjaxx: well, part of the problem seems to be with the way KIO is structured: Rather than making it a transparent way for any application to access remote shares, it's a framework that requires support on a per-application basis. It seems like Kaffeine and Amarok both lack that support. |
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| 18:14.10 | tntc | they don't even TRY to play the files, they just fail saying they don't understand the protocol. |
| 18:14.15 | xxtjaxx | wow that is pretty unfortunate |
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| 18:36.11 | tntc | yeah... Gnome works with my streaming media. I guess that's that then. |
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| 18:38.13 | sreich | er..I don't think he actually understands what KIO is... |
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| 18:45.49 | hunt | Hi, I am looking for a good way to run KDE 4.5, is there an opensuse remix or something that can be used? |
| 18:46.35 | Chani | huh. tntc sounded more like he had an install issue |
| 18:46.59 | Chani | hunt: #opensuse-kde probably knows more about that |
| 18:47.13 | sreich | Chani: yeah, I was kind of wondering the same thing actually |
| 18:47.36 | sreich | probably kubuntu ;-p |
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| 19:14.28 | allix | Are jobs and notifications that pop up in the system tray logged ? |
| 19:16.21 | sreich | no |
| 19:16.54 | allix | oh okay |
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| 19:34.09 | mva | anybody alive? |
| 19:34.15 | mva | i've dark background color and white freground color in KDE. Okular shows PDFs and DJVUs normally, but FB2s as crap: all letters has white foreground with grey silouette. And title has grey backgound, instead of readable colors |
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| 20:16.37 | Goliath23 | hi .. anyone with opensuse 11.3 having the problem, that konsole freezes for a few seconds upon start? |
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| 23:40.17 | blip- | hi all, I have 2 questions regarding KDE4.4.2. 1) how can I make it so that windows/programs only show up on the tasklist for that specific virtual desktop, rather than showing up on all desktops ? 2) how can I stop this strange behaviour where I can drag the wallpaper/desktop around and see white behind it |
| 23:41.50 | cleary | blip-: right click in the task manager applet, choose task manager settings |
| 23:42.00 | cleary | it's there at the bottom |
| 23:42.19 | cleary | dunno what you mean by 2) |
| 23:46.35 | blip- | cleary: hmm where is the task manager applet, if i right click on the task list it just shows the properties menu for one of the open windows |
| 23:46.55 | Jucato | right-click on an empty space |
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| 23:48.34 | blip99 | ok it worked now. thanks |
| 23:49.56 | blip99 | cleary: sometimes, i can click and hold on an empty part of the desktop and it would shift the wallpaper and widgets around showing me white space behind. i'm not sure if it's related to KDE4 compositing or compiz-fusion |
| 23:50.24 | blip99 | maybe it's related to "Activity", i've apparently added many "Activities" to my desktop |
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| 23:54.40 | Eddi|zuHause | i don't know what you did, but i can't move the wallpaper around... |
| 23:55.10 | Eddi|zuHause | maybe you didn't set the actual wallpaper, but you put a plasmoid over the background that includes the picture that you call wallpaper |
| 23:55.47 | cleary | you can see the background when you're in activity choosing mode |
| 23:56.20 | cleary | http://imagebin.ca/view/wD78DOsm.html |
| 23:56.31 | cleary | uh, wrong one |
| 23:56.32 | cleary | http://imagebin.ca/view/aS9Q2sv8.html |
| 23:57.01 | Jucato | I don't think you can go to activity choosing mode simply by clicking on the background and dragging |
| 23:57.08 | Jucato | it could be compiz thing |
| 23:57.13 | Jucato | (if he's using compiz) |
| 23:57.24 | cleary | you can't, but when in activity choosing mode, you can click and drag the screen around |
| 23:57.38 | Jucato | sure, but it's not white. it's always checkered afaik |
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