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| 00:22.44 | mdeanda | omg omg omg... some i guess kde4 and nfs-home don't like each other. my kmail stopped working for a few months and i finally got it working. i think i had to delete a few files. (i have them backed up), but now my address book contents are gone.. and my "not in address book == spam" filter is going loco... |
| 00:22.54 | mdeanda | is there a way to recover my addressbook? |
| 00:23.24 | mdeanda | the best part is.. i don't remember what files i removed.. but i keep a backup of my home directory (usually) |
| 00:23.52 | mdeanda | but i think it had something to do with akonadi |
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| 00:28.57 | factor | Does KDE have a mod music tracker |
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| 00:41.16 | JonathanLima | how can i start 2 kde, 1 from chroot and another normally? |
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| 00:48.35 | Alien_Fr1ak | is there the concept of session in KDE? |
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| 00:53.21 | padde | Alien_Fr1ak: yes |
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| 00:56.02 | jack_guru | hi! i am updating to kde 4.4.5 on arch but there is no announcement on the kde website etc. can someone tell me what has changed? thank you! |
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| 00:56.37 | padde | kde 4.4.5 is out? |
| 00:56.53 | padde | or are you confusing it with 4.5rc1? |
| 00:57.41 | jack_guru | this is one of the packages being updated: kdeplasma-addons-applets-kimpanel-4.4.5-1-i686 |
| 00:57.56 | jack_guru | so i guess it is 4.4.5 |
| 00:58.11 | padde | if it's really 4.4.5, then the usual small bug fixes and localisation updates, i guess |
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| 00:59.49 | Alien_Fr1ak | padde: any docs online on how to use them? I wanted to create a new session and switch between sessions |
| 01:00.04 | Alien_Fr1ak | close "work" open "play", and vice versa.. |
| 01:00.20 | jack_guru | but well the funny thing is that there is nothing about this update on the website! |
| 01:00.42 | padde | Alien_Fr1ak: i don't know the details, just know the session manager in systemsettings. |
| 01:01.23 | padde | jack_guru: ask the distro people what's going on :) |
| 01:02.21 | jack_guru | yeah that was my plan! lets see if arch is always up to date or there is something wrong with the update! thank you anyway! |
| 01:02.42 | cleary_ | Alien_Fr1ak: I think the concept of sessions might be a bit different |
| 01:03.11 | cleary_ | sessions in the kde context as I understand it, is an ability to save the apps you had open at logout, and reopen them on next login |
| 01:03.38 | cleary_ | Alien_Fr1ak: what you're talking about sounds more like Activities in plasma |
| 01:04.04 | Alien_Fr1ak | okay. same question for Activities then. |
| 01:04.33 | cleary_ | I have two activities similar to your scenario |
| 01:04.34 | cleary_ | http://imagebin.ca/view/i2Y0qMTT.html |
| 01:04.52 | cleary_ | click in the cashew, Add Activity |
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| 01:05.09 | cleary_ | you can zoom out using ctrl+mousewheel to view your activities |
| 01:05.27 | cleary_ | click the magnifying glass on a different activity to switch to it |
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| 01:09.11 | Alien_Fr1ak | Cashew.. is that what that thing is called |
| 01:09.37 | sreich | that's the user term for it, usually |
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| 01:10.45 | Alien_Fr1ak | hmmm.. I try to add an activity and doesn't do anything |
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| 01:14.00 | padde | cleary_: what's the status of this activity thing? switching only affects plasmoids/plasma, right? so, like virtual desktops for plasmoids? |
| 01:14.48 | padde | or can it now start up programs when you switch to an activity, and close those from the activity you're coming from, things like that? |
| 01:17.51 | oneforall | hmm I se that konq file mode the delete a folder from the tree or the panel it still doesn't sync. |
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| 01:24.40 | cleary_ | padde: correct |
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| 01:25.08 | padde | cleary_: umm, which? ;) |
| 01:25.28 | cleary_ | padde: ah sorry, I only read the higlighted bit |
| 01:25.35 | cleary_ | switching only affects plasmoids/plasma, right? so, like virtual desktops for plasmoids |
| 01:26.58 | padde | ok... well, not incredibly useful, if you ask me ;) |
| 01:27.23 | cleary_ | I agree, the option to tie apps to the activity would be good |
| 01:28.21 | cleary_ | is not sure if this option exists already |
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| 01:31.41 | padde | i guess it would currently be easier to have two users, like padde-work and padde-play. then you can choose to run them in parallel or logout from one and login to the other. by employing the sessions we talked about earlier, appropriate programs could start up automatically |
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| 01:32.51 | padde | multi-user systems ftw :) |
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| 01:50.21 | KWhat4 | does nepomuk reindex every time kde starts? |
| 01:50.56 | KWhat4 | it seems to be indexing every file over and over again |
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| 01:55.25 | oneforall | what is it that makes staretx go to alt+F8 after it crashed when it was on F7 . I have tried deleting what I think would cause that . But no luck :( |
| 01:55.33 | oneforall | startx* |
| 01:56.00 | oneforall | startx -- :7 isn't a fix :) |
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| 02:19.38 | sreich | oneforall: *deleting*..uhm...waaah? |
| 02:20.04 | sreich | what gave you the idea that deleting *something* would make it respawn on a different virtual terminal? |
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| 02:23.20 | oneforall | well delete of kill -9 something . only way top get it back fresh is the darn reboot . |
| 02:23.29 | oneforall | top/to |
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| 02:50.17 | MrDarkUser | Hi, I am trying to get started building KDE from SVN so I can make a few fixes to bugs I have found |
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| 02:51.05 | MrDarkUser | I am having more trouble that I would like, and the tutorials all kind of skip opening and working on an existing product |
| 02:51.17 | MrDarkUser | What tutorials do you recommend? |
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| 03:02.40 | oneforall | sreich what happens is I forgot to turn off the effects when I use kvm(then alt_F, full screen) then alt+F to go back tot he small window) . But some version of kde its going back to black screen. So I get out ctrl+alt+backspace. . Then when I do startx. I test ctrl+alt+F1 then back with alt+F7 and nope its on F8 . I use F8 when I want to test . not get the 21 mixed up |
| 03:02.50 | oneforall | alt+F* |
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| 03:03.23 | oneforall | 21/2 |
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| 03:28.04 | Zombie | Hi. |
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| 06:20.37 | Z-RAY_ | guys i tried to manually reinstall kdenlive and MLT from source, because i had these white dots and lines and now kdenlive don't see many modules! help me, please to make this thing work |
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| 06:21.04 | jussi | o/ |
| 06:21.36 | Z-RAY_ | o/ |
| 06:22.06 | jussi | Im trying to set my sent mail folder from a local one to one on the server, but I cant remember how to do it. Using dimap and kmail :) |
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| 06:26.55 | jussi | Nevermind. Ifound it :) |
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| 07:58.28 | ruurd | can somebody assist me in getting choqok running again? |
| 07:59.51 | Zombie | What application replaces Kmobiletools? |
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| 08:00.54 | cb400f | none |
| 08:01.13 | Zombie | What do you mean "None" |
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| 08:06.49 | cb400f | I mean there's no 1:1 KDE4 replacement for kmobiletools |
| 08:09.27 | Zombie | I need an application that will permit me to download addresses and contacts and call data from my Phone. |
| 08:09.54 | cb400f | look at gammugammu or wammuwammu or whatever it's called |
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| 08:10.09 | cb400f | and some of the stuff can simply be done via bluetooth |
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| 08:10.30 | Zombie | This phone lacks =bluetooth and must be connected via USB. |
| 08:11.53 | cb400f | of course nothing prevents you from using kde3 kmobiletools if that worked for ya |
| 08:12.29 | cb400f | kmobiletools still lives in kde4 playground.. well.. it exists |
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| 08:22.22 | Zombie | cb400f: wammu works, but I wish I had a means to interconnect it with my existing GroupDAV database. |
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| 08:23.27 | Zizo | Hi all, in kde 4.4.4 is there a way to remove the +/- selection mark for every icon into the folder view desktop? Thanks |
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| 08:28.46 | Zizo_ | Sorry, router disconnected, any reply? Thanks again |
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| 08:50.42 | robert_ | oookay, herewe go.. >>> Emerging (3 of 235) games-board/gnugo-3.8 |
| 08:50.48 | robert_ | upgrading to KDE 4.4.4 |
| 08:50.49 | robert_ | lol |
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| 08:51.01 | robert_ | such a pain in the ass to upgrade, though. |
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| 08:52.54 | szal | well, blame yourself for using Gentoo :P |
| 08:53.42 | robert_ | :P |
| 08:53.50 | robert_ | I don't like binary packages, haha. |
| 08:54.09 | robert_ | great job on 4.x though.. I hated it at first, but now I love it. |
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| 10:39.39 | Fri13 | Hi, from where does the KDE SC 4.5 get it systray icons (black/white)? |
| 10:40.15 | pinotree | from the plasma theme |
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| 10:46.05 | Fri13 | pinotree: so plasma theme needs to be updated to get all apps icons in systray to be correct? |
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| 10:55.19 | Sho_ | Fri13: Only shell icons are monochromatic |
| 10:55.22 | Sho_ | app icons stay colorful |
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| 11:00.27 | Vamp898 | Where can i find the KDE 4.4.5 Release notes? |
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| 11:01.56 | tsimpson | Vamp898: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.4.5.php |
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| 11:05.49 | Vamp898 | tsimpson: thx |
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| 11:06.40 | Vamp898 | tsimpson: oh they was just under the Beta/RC Announcments of KDE 4.5.... i should scroll more down next time... |
| 11:06.52 | tsimpson | yeah ;) |
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| 11:51.49 | alchemist19 | hello all |
| 11:53.10 | Fri13 | Sho_: Only plasma-workspace gets monochomatic icons? How about then all applications like Konversation, Amarok, Kopete etc? |
| 11:53.26 | Sho_ | Fri13: They don't |
| 11:53.27 | Fri13 | And Klipper ain't part of plasma-workspace so why it is then so? |
| 11:53.36 | Sho_ | Fri13: Klipper is considered part of the shell |
| 11:54.02 | Fri13 | Sho_: it is considered part of KDE workspace? |
| 11:54.14 | Fri13 | I tought Klipper is part of kdeutils |
| 11:54.36 | Sho_ | Fri13: Without Klipper, copy and paste doesn't work when you quit apps .. |
| 11:54.44 | Sho_ | it's a pretty basic thing |
| 11:54.57 | Fri13 | Sho_: but I do not need kde workspace to use KDE applications |
| 11:54.59 | Sho_ | and yes, it's in kdebase-workspace tarball-wise |
| 11:55.36 | Sho_ | Fri13: we're talking about a KDE session course |
| 11:55.41 | Sho_ | *of course |
| 11:56.41 | Fri13 | Sho_: So Kmix, Klipper and Kwallet (etc) are part of KDE Workspace and not part of KDE Utils? |
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| 11:57.17 | Sho_ | Fri13: Copy and paste in X11 works in such a way that when you paste, the application you copied from is responsible for handing over the data. That means if you quit the source app before pasting, you can't paste anymore. Klipper papers over that by noticeing when you copy and taking over the data (so it becomes the source app, basically). Everything else is icing on the cake. |
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| 11:58.49 | Sho_ | Fri13: kwalletmanager is in kdeutils iirc, kmix is in kdemultimedia |
| 11:59.28 | Fri13 | Well. hopefully apps can get own chromatic icon to systray if needed and not forced to have colored one. |
| 11:59.47 | Sho_ | I hope they won't do that |
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| 11:59.56 | Fri13 | Because that has got lots of critic being ugly. |
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| 12:00.44 | Sho_ | KDE 4 makes a visual distinction between the shell and applications - Plasma and apps have separate themes. 4.5 extends that to the systray by making shell icons unobtrusive, so app icons stand out more. |
| 12:01.09 | Fri13 | Sho_: what makes it unclear because klipper is application like KMix, Kopete etc are as well. |
| 12:01.22 | cb400f | are they ordered accordingly then? (haven't tried 4.5 yet) |
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| 12:01.28 | Sho_ | cb400f: yes |
| 12:01.37 | cb400f | sweet |
| 12:01.47 | Fri13 | cb400f: yes, workspace icons are on right. But they get mixed in hidden-menu |
| 12:02.04 | Sho_ | Fri13: Plasma is an application too, if you're talking technology |
| 12:02.07 | Sho_ | kwin is an application |
| 12:02.11 | Sho_ | everything is an application |
| 12:02.14 | Sho_ | we're talking user perception |
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| 12:02.22 | Fri13 | Sho_: they are not applications but programs. |
| 12:02.24 | Sho_ | and for the user, Klipper and KMix are basic shell components |
| 12:03.08 | Sho_ | Fri13: All of them instanciate KApplication |
| 12:03.35 | Sho_ | But this is a moot discussion |
| 12:03.51 | Sho_ | Are you going to tell me that to a user, Klipper and Konversation are the same? |
| 12:05.03 | Fri13 | Sho_: they look same. Both gets window what has same style. Neither are same as the workspace like KickOff, DeviceManager or even NetworkManager. |
| 12:05.36 | Fri13 | When KWallet, KMix and Klipper gets Plasma style, then they would be straight seen belonging to the workspace and not as separated. |
| 12:06.12 | Sho_ | yeah, Plasma theme looks for KMix and Klipper still need to be done |
| 12:06.24 | Fri13 | And Kwallet is between those two. |
| 12:06.40 | Fri13 | Because you need KWallet if you run such application program what needs it in other desktop environment. |
| 12:06.41 | Sho_ | KWallet != KWalletManager |
| 12:06.46 | Sho_ | (KWallet works fine without KwalletManager) |
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| 12:07.16 | Sho_ | (which is why kwalletmanager is in kdeutils, not in kdebase-workspace) |
| 12:07.58 | Sho_ | (meanwhile, kwalletd, the actual runtime dependency, is in kdebase-runtime) |
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| 12:09.01 | Fri13 | ain't kdebase-runtime a part of kde platform? |
| 12:09.35 | Sho_ | dunno, I'm not an expert for the new branding |
| 12:10.31 | Sho_ | http://community.kde.org/Promo/Branding/Rebranding_KDE_v1.1.0#The_KDE_Platform suggests it does ("runtime base") |
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| 12:55.43 | thomasfuston | Mornin' |
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| 12:56.37 | thomasfuston | i got a question about activity's, if go on activity setting is see 2 kinds of activitys: "Desktop" and "Folder View", there are more avail ? |
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| 12:58.32 | Sho_ | thomasfuston: There's the "Newspaper" activity |
| 12:58.42 | Sho_ | thomasfuston: These are plugins, so anyone could write more |
| 12:58.47 | Klanticus | thomasfuston: and Search & Launch activty |
| 12:59.06 | thomasfuston | Sho_, Klanticus: ah ok, so i have to search for activity plugins ? |
| 12:59.29 | Sanitoeter | I believe there is a globe plugin and a fractal plugin as well |
| 12:59.33 | Sho_ | thomasfuston: I'm not sure there really are (m)any beyond the four shipped with the KDE SC right now |
| 12:59.43 | Sho_ | Sanitoeter: No, those are wallpaper provider plugins |
| 12:59.52 | Sho_ | That's different from activities |
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| 13:01.14 | Sanitoeter | hm okay |
| 13:01.45 | thomasfuston | Sho_: got kde 4.4 at moment, but only Desktop and Folder View avail i guess there must be some plugins to install |
| 13:01.48 | Sanitoeter | ah yes you are right, I confused these |
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| 13:03.18 | Klanticus | thomasfuston: I think the other two are shipped with 4.5 only |
| 13:03.56 | thomasfuston | Klanticus: oh ok, so if i wanna use them should get the newest SC "beta" release |
| 13:05.33 | Sho_ | actually it's at Release Candidate 1 stage by now |
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| 13:24.03 | Z-RAY_ | can anybody tell me what is -fPIC and how to recompile with it? |
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| 13:24.25 | kdepepo | position independent code, required for shared libraries |
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| 13:27.16 | Z-RAY_ | yes yes |
| 13:27.20 | Z-RAY_ | yeeeees |
| 13:27.26 | Z-RAY_ | you know this! |
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| 13:27.36 | Z-RAY_ | but how to recompile with it??? |
| 13:27.37 | Z-RAY_ | :S |
| 13:27.50 | Z-RAY_ | kdepepo |
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| 13:28.15 | kdepepo | what are you trying to compile |
| 13:28.20 | Z-RAY_ | emm |
| 13:28.22 | Z-RAY_ | MLT |
| 13:28.30 | Z-RAY_ | the latest from source |
| 13:28.42 | kdepepo | it does not include a configure script? |
| 13:28.43 | Z-RAY_ | git clone git://mltframework.org/mlt.git |
| 13:28.51 | kdepepo | or a cmake file? |
| 13:28.54 | Z-RAY_ | :S |
| 13:28.59 | Z-RAY_ | i'm not really sure |
| 13:29.04 | Z-RAY_ | yes, it have |
| 13:29.10 | Z-RAY_ | configure script |
| 13:29.21 | Z-RAY_ | that you need to run first of all right? |
| 13:30.25 | Z-RAY_ | kdepepo |
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| 13:38.47 | Z-RAY_ | kdepepoooooo |
| 13:38.53 | Z-RAY_ | come back :) |
| 13:40.03 | rhombus | I have an IBM Thinkpad, and when I go into power management settings, it tells me that there are problems with my settings. In the Capabilities subwindow it says it could not connect to consolekit. Does this sound familiar to anybody? |
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| 13:57.02 | luist | hey guys... what version of kde4-kwin (or just kwin) do i need to use with qt 4.6.3? im using kde 4.2 and if i install qt 4.6.3 it just removes the windows of everything. |
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| 13:57.30 | orzel | Hello. most links "all svn changes" in this page are dead : http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_4_4to4_4_5.php |
| 13:57.37 | orzel | for exemple : http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/4_4_5/kdelibs.txt |
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| 14:40.18 | soup-n-sandwich | Hi guys. Is it possible to make a .desktop icon to make kwin go into it's desktop cube? Is there a command to get this to happen? |
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| 14:40.56 | cb400f | what's wrong with ctrl+f11 ? :-) |
| 14:41.30 | GNU\colossus | maybe wmctrl can do that? |
| 14:42.00 | soup-n-sandwich | cb400f: it's not a "clickable" icon to product the cube. I was considering making a section in the panel to allow for common effects. |
| 14:42.31 | Torch | soup-n-sandwich: what for? |
| 14:42.39 | soup-n-sandwich | getting end users to remember key macros/combos is not the best approach |
| 14:43.04 | luist | hey guys... what version of kde4-kwin (or just kwin) do i need to use with qt 4.6.3? im using kde 4.2 and if i install qt 4.6.3 it just removes the windows of everything. |
| 14:43.23 | Torch | soup-n-sandwich: there's the virtual desktop switcher, then. |
| 14:44.34 | soup-n-sandwich | Torch: I'm dealing with thousands of end users of all levels. It would be really helpful if I could make a small panel or include a section of an existing panel to have one click access to some of the more useful effects. The cube, move a window to the next desktop, etc |
| 14:44.50 | annma | luist: ask in your distro channel |
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| 14:45.45 | orzel | Is there a place to report problem with the announcement ? most links "all svn changes" in this page are dead : http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_4_4to4_4_5.php |
| 14:46.05 | Torch | orzel: there's a mail link on the bottom of that page. |
| 14:46.18 | soup-n-sandwich | Torch: yeah I know, and that is very helpful...but what exactly is the existing virtual desktop switcher (pager) sending for commands to make the desktop switch? Maybe if I could analyze that I could figure out how to make one for the desktop cube and others. |
| 14:46.38 | orzel | toure: i dont feel like subscribing for such a small report |
| 14:46.48 | orzel | Torch: ^ |
| 14:46.48 | Torch | soup-n-sandwich: you're arguing you need something for usability, but you want it for eye candy. that's not really consistent. |
| 14:47.10 | soup-n-sandwich | Torch: not sure what you mean |
| 14:47.26 | Torch | orzel: you can usually mail to kde mailing lists without being subscribed. |
| 14:47.43 | Torch | soup-n-sandwich: the desktop switcher plasmoid does what you want. use it. |
| 14:47.46 | annma | orzel: the mail will ba approved and that's it |
| 14:47.52 | orzel | Torch: ah? ok, will report then |
| 14:48.18 | soup-n-sandwich | Torch: so you don't know how to do what I'm asking then? |
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| 14:48.32 | Torch | soup-n-sandwich: that is completely beside the point. |
| 14:49.42 | soup-n-sandwich | Torch: not really. I'm trying to make anything that is typically enabled by a keyboard combo to a clickable desktop icon. |
| 14:50.16 | Torch | soup-n-sandwich: i got that. i told you i don't see any sense in it. as far as i am concerned i'm done with that topic. |
| 14:50.24 | rhombus | I have an IBM Thinkpad, and when I go into power management settings, it tells me that there are problems with my settings. In the Capabilities subwindow it says it could not connect to consolekit. Does this sound familiar to anybody? |
| 14:50.41 | soup-n-sandwich | Torch: ha... |
| 14:50.43 | soup-n-sandwich | wow |
| 14:51.25 | rhombus | and if I call up qdbusviewer, it says it cannot connect to the session bus, and I don't think that's right... |
| 14:51.49 | Torch | rhombus: and this is persistent across reboots? |
| 14:52.04 | soup-n-sandwich | Torch: thanks man |
| 14:52.24 | rhombus | Torch: as far as I know... I've rebooted a couple of times, the error message is always there |
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| 14:53.19 | soup-n-sandwich | Are there any developers here that could shed some light on making desktop icon able to trigger a kwin effect? |
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| 14:55.10 | rhombus | Torch: I am supposed to see services in the session bus tab of qdbusviewer, am I not? |
| 14:55.19 | Torch | rhombus: yes |
| 14:55.37 | Torch | rhombus: if you have no session bus something is really broken with your setup or user account |
| 14:56.02 | Torch | rhombus: try adding a new user and see if that changes anything |
| 14:56.11 | rhombus | Torch: I believe I do have a session bus, I just can't connect to it. If I didn't have a session bus, KDE wouldn't really be working, would it? |
| 14:56.12 | Torch | rhombus: lame suggestion, but i can't think of anything more detailed right now ;-) |
| 14:56.15 | soup-n-sandwich | GNU\colossus: I haven't herd of that. wmctrl |
| 14:57.56 | soup-n-sandwich | Torch: hey thanks man you at least set me in the right direction |
| 14:58.13 | rhombus | Torch: I doubt that is the problem. http://pastebin.ca/1892533 |
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| 15:00.17 | rhombus | Torch: and in the capabilities window, essentially nothing works. It detects no CPU, it says it can't frequency scale, it shows no supported governors... |
| 15:01.00 | Torch | rhombus: you doubt what exactly is the problem? |
| 15:01.16 | Torch | rhombus: i'm no expoert either on dbus nor on powerdevil, sorry. i can only give you general hints. |
| 15:01.16 | rhombus | Torch: that there is no session bus |
| 15:01.26 | rhombus | argh. |
| 15:01.27 | rhombus | ok. |
| 15:01.46 | rhombus | the docs are... let me be charitable... unhelpful. |
| 15:03.16 | soup-n-sandwich | Torch: thanks again man, your a real pal |
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| 15:19.34 | shadyabhi | I want to delete all themes other than OXYGEN on KDE 4.4.5.. How do I do that? |
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| 15:21.00 | cb400f | depends how your distro is packaged |
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| 15:22.46 | shadyabhi | cb400f: Dont know why.. They have an option to add theme but not to delete theme.. thats not good |
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| 15:26.56 | cb400f | ahh.. you installed them via get hot new stuff? not via your distro? |
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| 15:27.46 | cb400f | then they're prolly saved in ~/.kde(4?)/share/apps/plasma/<somewhere> |
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| 15:35.36 | freinhard | hi! |
| 15:35.58 | freinhard | how do i get rid of kopetes "foo is typing a message" notifications in 4.5rc1? |
| 15:36.19 | freinhard | pretty annoing, permanent distraction in a corner of the screen... |
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| 15:41.45 | inc0 | hey, I have strange issue with KDE |
| 15:41.54 | inc0 | sound just stopped working on my mint |
| 15:42.02 | inc0 | its working all right on gnome |
| 15:42.08 | frank82vt | hello guys. Where can i find a simple mimetype icon for kate editor? |
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| 15:50.59 | frank82vt | Please. Where can i find a simple mimetype icon for kate editor? |
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| 15:52.21 | maxamillion | I have a dual monitor setup but in the "Desktop Activity Settings" I don't see an option to assign a desktop background to the second monitor |
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| 15:53.00 | sreich | that's because you right click the desktop that holds the background that you want to set |
| 15:53.02 | arkascha | frank82vt: find /usr/share/icons/ -iname "*mime*" |
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| 15:53.22 | maxamillion | sreich: oh |
| 15:53.25 | maxamillion | sreich: nice :) |
| 15:53.30 | maxamillion | thanks! |
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| 15:55.05 | frank82vt | arkascha i know were are the mimetypes in my pc what i want is download a mimetype for kate editor becouse i cant find one in my pc |
| 15:56.26 | arkascha | frank82vt: that command does not list mimetypes on your system, but mimetype related icons. I thought you are looking for an icon ?!? |
| 15:56.41 | arkascha | frank82vt: what do you mean by "a mimetype for kate" ? |
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| 16:00.34 | frank82vt | arkascha specifically im looking for a a text file (filetype) icon for the kate editor. i think mime type icon is the same tha filetype icon |
| 16:02.13 | arkascha | frank82vt: I am sorry, but I am unable to understand what you are asking for. |
| 16:02.31 | arkascha | frank82vt: the other way 'round: you want an icon to launch kate ? |
| 16:02.44 | arkascha | frank82vt: or an icon for something inside kate ? |
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| 16:04.23 | frank82vt | arkascha when you open kate and save a file in desktop then this file appear in the the desktop whit its icon. Well what i wan its to change that default icon |
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| 16:07.26 | avenir | frank82vt: right click a text file, select properties. there will be a line with 'Type: plain text file'. on the right side of that line there is a button. click it. another dialog appears. click the icon in it. change the icon. |
| 16:08.37 | arkascha | frank82vt: you see, the icon shown is not selected by kate, but by kde. It only depends on the mimetype of the file you saved. So you have to change the default icon for that mimetype inside kde as avenir showed you. |
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| 16:09.50 | frank82vt | avenir arkascha i already have done that so i need other icons diferent than the defaults icons |
| 16:10.57 | frank82vt | avenir arkascha Because im already using that text file icon for other application |
| 16:11.47 | arkascha | frank82vt: again, the icon shown does _not_ depend on the application you use to create or save the file. |
| 16:12.46 | arkascha | frank82vt: when you save a file of type 'text file' the icon set as default for text files is shown. You cannot have different ones for different applications saving files. |
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| 16:13.47 | frank82vt | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.26 | frank82vt | arkascha Mmmm what about openoffice. Its icons are created by KDE instead the openoffice application too? |
| 16:14.40 | arkascha | frank82vt: when you save a text file from within openoffice it is text file for kde. kde does not care which application created the file. |
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| 16:15.30 | frank82vt | arkascha I see |
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| 16:17.21 | arkascha | frank82vt: what you could do if you really need a different icon is to 'invent' an own mimetype, for example ".franktxt" files. For this newly created mimetype you can set a default icon. And now you can save a file from kate as "name.franktxt" and kde will show the chosen icon. But that is a very strange thing to do. |
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| 16:24.03 | frank82vt | arkascha Now I see. Well thats the situation. Im creating text files (in windows format) whit wine Notepad application, and im creating text file (in linux format) whit kate. Theese files have the same extension file (*.txt)? |
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| 16:26.28 | arkascha | frank82vt: well the file extension only depends on how you type it when you save the file. There is no magic there. |
| 16:27.01 | arkascha | frank82vt: actually the mimetype of a file does _not_ simply depend on the file extension under linux as it does under windows. |
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| 16:27.51 | arkascha | frank82vt: you can try this yourself: rename for example a pdf file something.pdf to something.xxx, you will see that it is still a pdf file for kde. |
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| 16:28.18 | arkascha | frank82vt: so as long as you create text files these are text files. Simple. |
| 16:28.28 | frank82vt | arkascha well you discover me Im relatively new in linux |
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| 16:28.37 | arkascha | frank82vt: welcome :-) |
| 16:29.33 | arkascha | frank82vt: may I ask why you want to have two different icons for text files ? only because they contain different linebreaks ? |
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| 16:32.18 | frank82vt | arkascha Because i want to make a difference between text files created under windows an linux |
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| 16:34.53 | frank82vt | arkascha Sorry i wrote bad. Because i want to make a difference between text files created under windows and linux. |
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| 16:37.38 | arkascha | frank82vt: I see, but still I ask why. Cause still a text file is a text file. It does not depend on the application used to create it, nor on the operating system. |
| 16:38.38 | arkascha | frank82vt: the only difference I can see is that windows text files always have a linebreak "\r\n" whilst linux based software usually uses "\n" only. But you can change that for example in kate. |
| 16:38.55 | arkascha | frank82vt: oh, and the text encoding might actually be different, that is true. |
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| 16:39.52 | arkascha | frank82vt: I can not think of a simple and robust way to do what you are looking for (whyever). |
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| 16:40.22 | arkascha | frank82vt: this is somewhat against the logic that usually makes sense, to treat all text files alike because they are all text files. |
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| 16:43.49 | frank82vt | arkascha Your last explanations are enough for me. You have the text files are just text files, and them must have the same file icon. the only differences are what you mentioned before (i did read about that) |
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| 16:44.19 | frank82vt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:50.00 | The_ManU_212 | hi |
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| 16:50.59 | The_ManU_212 | is it possible that i can avoid the close button in kwin for konsole windows, unfortunately i quit a konsole by clicking on it, it would be more secure if ic an only quit with exit |
| 16:52.04 | mgraesslin | The_ManU_212: yes you can do that with a special window rule |
| 16:52.31 | The_ManU_212 | mgraesslin: i searched the rules, can you tell me how to do this? |
| 16:52.35 | mgraesslin | right click the window decoration, go to advanced, special Application Setting |
| 16:52.53 | mgraesslin | in preferences check option Closeable |
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| 16:53.08 | mgraesslin | and select Force in dropdown |
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| 16:53.38 | mgraesslin | and OK |
| 16:53.40 | The_ManU_212 | mgraesslin: i can only choose force or force temporarily |
| 16:53.47 | mgraesslin | choose force |
| 16:54.38 | mgraesslin | and while trying the setting at the same time I found a bug in Aurorae :-) |
| 16:54.52 | The_ManU_212 | mgraesslin: ok so the close button is available but i cant close the application right, clicking is ignored? |
| 16:55.01 | mgraesslin | yes |
| 16:55.04 | The_ManU_212 | Aurorae? |
| 16:55.10 | mgraesslin | it's a theme engine |
| 16:55.15 | The_ManU_212 | ah k |
| 16:55.22 | mgraesslin | it should not show the close button if the window cannot be closed |
| 16:56.16 | The_ManU_212 | mgraesslin: the close button is shown up for a konsole window |
| 16:56.26 | The_ManU_212 | err on new windows its disabled |
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| 16:57.21 | The_ManU_212 | btw its confusing the option tells closable - force, in the end it does the opposite it forces not to close, for what is the checkmark behind force? |
| 16:57.57 | mgraesslin | if you check the box it will force that the window is closeable although it is not |
| 16:58.55 | mgraesslin | but yes the dialog is complicated :-) |
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| 16:59.18 | The_ManU_212 | mgraesslin: ah ok so if i tell closable - force - no checkmark it means dont force to close and the 1st checkmark is to enable this feature? |
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| 16:59.42 | mgraesslin | yes |
| 17:00.07 | The_ManU_212 | thx you :))) |
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| 17:01.59 | junkDawgie | the fact that the not checking the "enable" box on the right forces the opposite behavior is not apparent... interesting |
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| 17:05.26 | The_ManU_212 | junkDawgie: dunno lol confusing menu |
| 17:06.27 | junkDawgie | be grateful, it may be convoluted logic but i'm sure it takes a huge amount of time coding the gui for kwin to expose all these options for us. |
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| 17:08.05 | The_ManU_212 | yeah and all for free |
| 17:08.12 | The_ManU_212 | i like linux! |
| 17:08.20 | The_ManU_212 | im out now maybe back later |
| 17:08.54 | The_ManU_212 | at work i have to deal with redmond software its all damn complicated there |
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| 17:10.20 | Seppoz | hello, i actually installed kubuntu, when i changed the resolutin form 800x600 to 1680x150 (by installing vmware tools) my fonts are big and the applications look crappy .. any idea? |
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| 17:25.41 | [1]choppa | hi, i have a friend of mine on KDE 4.4.4 et he has a problem connecting on wifi; sometimes it works; sometimes it stays on 'activation' and asks the password again; it's the same with knetworkmanager, nm-applet, and wicd, so for now i'm staying on knetworkmanager, could someone help please? |
| 17:27.08 | Seppoz | setting fonts to 96DPI actually fixed my proplem thx :) |
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| 17:36.36 | PovAddict | http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001978.html |
| 17:37.03 | PovAddict | when I try to write a comment to any post in f-secure blog, konqueror crashes |
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| 17:38.14 | oscop2010 | #love |
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| 17:42.58 | Seppoz | how do i get my "Desktop Folder" back? |
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| 17:44.53 | Klanticus | Seppoz: you mean the widget that shows your desktop? |
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| 17:53.10 | Seppoz | Klanticus: yes |
| 17:53.20 | Seppoz | Klanticus: the one showing the desktop files |
| 17:53.25 | Klanticus | click the cashew -> add widget |
| 17:53.31 | PovAddict | the one showing an arbitrary folder's files |
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| 17:53.45 | Seppoz | whats its name= |
| 17:54.00 | PovAddict | dunno in english |
| 17:54.03 | PovAddict | folder view or something |
| 17:54.04 | Klanticus | then look for Folder View |
| 17:54.36 | Seppoz | thanks found |
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| 17:54.50 | Seppoz | another qestion: how do i change theme? |
| 17:55.04 | PovAddict | what version of KDE? |
| 17:55.10 | Seppoz | also it seems i cant install icon packages from the online portal |
| 17:55.21 | Seppoz | i guess the latest |
| 17:55.27 | PovAddict | that's not a version |
| 17:55.44 | Seppoz | 4.x |
| 17:55.52 | PovAddict | "the latest" is 4.5 RC1 which you probably shouldn't be using :P |
| 17:56.23 | Klanticus | system settings -> workspace appearance |
| 17:56.34 | Seppoz | ty |
| 17:57.11 | PovAddict | tries other themes to see if any is worth using now |
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| 18:21.42 | paul424 | huh kde in 4.5 is still slow |
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| 18:22.11 | paul424 | just try do like that : restore the window , and then try to max it out, |
| 18:22.31 | paul424 | it will have problems redrawing it ... like ~1 s. |
| 18:23.07 | sreich | that's probably a problem with your drivers |
| 18:23.25 | paul424 | no dude, I have preatty fast results of glxgears |
| 18:24.00 | sreich | glxgears is not a benchmark.. |
| 18:24.02 | paul424 | its like misplaced scrollbar ,,, than miscplaced icons .. and then goes normal window ... |
| 18:24.12 | paul424 | so what is a good benchmark , then ? |
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| 18:26.34 | sreich | paul424: no idea |
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| 18:28.31 | feindbild | paul424: disable compositing |
| 18:28.40 | paul424 | ok why ? |
| 18:28.59 | feindbild | paul424: you have problems with performance? |
| 18:29.21 | sreich | lol |
| 18:31.52 | feindbild | didn't know I was funny :o) since the day intel released the drivers with KMS support and I can't get the legacy drivers back I have nothing but crashes and abysmal performance. |
| 18:32.17 | Tomasu | is it normal that akonadi adds a new local mail resource every time it starts? especially since It isn't even used for mail? |
| 18:32.23 | feindbild | as soon as I enable compositing on my laptop everything falls apart |
| 18:33.30 | Tomasu | I have decent performance with kde+compositing on an intel laptop. at least till I start running low on memory. then it seems the gui starts lagging out |
| 18:33.36 | paul424 | uhh I don't see the diffrence , especially somehow the effects of composing doesn;t work ..donno why ? |
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| 18:38.33 | PovAddict | don't see the difference between what? |
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| 18:52.47 | paul424 | the diffrence in speed ... between composing and no composing |
| 18:53.22 | paul424 | I mean glxgears work somehow much faster with composing ... |
| 18:53.39 | paul424 | performance with kde4 is an alchemy :D |
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| 19:04.12 | Seppoz | can i switch kde to doubleclick mode? |
| 19:04.22 | Klanticus | yes |
| 19:04.28 | Seppoz | :) plz how |
| 19:04.38 | Klanticus | somewhere in system settings |
| 19:05.08 | Seppoz | hehe |
| 19:05.09 | Seppoz | xD |
| 19:05.20 | Seppoz | it says somewhere doesnt exist xD |
| 19:07.35 | BelaLugosi | Seppoz: Systemsettings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> Double-click to open files and folders |
| 19:08.33 | Seppoz | thx |
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| 19:09.28 | paul424 | flash also works supper slowly ...... |
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| 19:09.55 | paul424 | hmm how the gnome - kde is made ? I mean does the gnome app get orginal gnome libs ? |
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| 19:14.15 | sreich | paul424: what? |
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| 19:22.58 | paul424 | uhh I mean how does the compatibility work ? |
| 19:24.11 | factor | Does anyone know where Koffice is in debian testing |
| 19:24.33 | pinotree | factor: ask in #debian-kde, on the irc server irc.oftc.net |
| 19:24.40 | sreich | paul424: I have no idea what you mean. try re-stating an improved question |
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| 19:26.12 | rindolf | Hi all. How do I make sure the fonts on KDE are the same size as those on XFCE, IceWM or GNOME? |
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| 19:29.18 | freinhard | rindolf: sysemsetting->appearance->fonts |
| 19:29.36 | rindolf | freinhard: thanks. |
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| 19:36.46 | PovAddict | paul424: everything supports X, that's it |
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| 19:59.59 | henkie | is a kde-resource able to update LDAP? |
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| 20:15.14 | T1750 | and i wan't to copy/paste a very long password |
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| 20:17.10 | Seppoz | thx |
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| 21:09.53 | shevy | you know what webpages like http://techbase.kde.org/Polkit-Qt-1 need? |
| 21:09.59 | shevy | download links or "how to obtain" this package |
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| 21:17.08 | markit | hi, I regularry update my debian sid with kde 4.4.x. Since some time ago, Kopete worked fine. Now seems does not log in any (ICQ, Jabber, etc) network I've setup, any idea? |
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| 22:06.17 | DeeTah | hi, i'm trying to write a widget in pyqt. i change button's setEnabled and it doesn't redraw. how to force it? |
| 22:06.41 | einar77 | DeeTah: update() should do the trick |
| 22:06.46 | einar77 | (going from memory, though) |
| 22:07.28 | DeeTah | einar77: doesn't really. doesn't react. |
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| 22:08.29 | einar77 | well I admit I never had such a problem |
| 22:08.36 | einar77 | do you have the code somewhere? |
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| 22:09.24 | DeeTah | yeah, sure, hold on i'll pastebin it. |
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| 22:09.30 | DeeTah | einar77: http://wklej.org/id/358734/ |
| 22:09.31 | DeeTah | there you go |
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| 22:10.35 | einar77 | DeeTah: don't do anything in __init__() |
| 22:11.15 | einar77 | only call the superclass's __init__() |
| 22:11.15 | einar77 | do *everything else* in init() |
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| 22:11.15 | einar77 | including building the widgets |
| 22:11.15 | einar77 | so just keep |
| 22:11.20 | DeeTah | einar77: i'm learning by somebody else's widget. |
| 22:11.27 | einar77 | plasmascript.Applet.__init__(self, parent) |
| 22:11.34 | einar77 | and move the rest to init() |
| 22:11.44 | DeeTah | the guy had it all screwed up, like mixing tabs and spaces, aww |
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| 22:12.30 | DeeTah | gonna try, d'you think it'll help? ;) |
| 22:12.47 | DeeTah | nah, it doesn't. |
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| 22:14.33 | DeeTah | einar77: any other ideas? |
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| 22:17.10 | einar77 | DeeTah: unfortunately not at the moemnt |
| 22:17.45 | DeeTah | einar77: a pity. i'll try working on more important stuff then ;) |
| 22:17.58 | einar77 | DeeTah: just, don't use sleep() |
| 22:18.14 | einar77 | IIRC it would just freeze plasma |
| 22:18.17 | einar77 | for 3 seconds |
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| 22:49.31 | Erthe | Does anyone know what package extragear comes in for Kubuntu (no response on the distro channel.) |
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| 23:28.34 | haole | is there an equivalent to kde for archive mounter or daemon tools for windows? |
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| 23:28.54 | sreich | why do you even need one? |
| 23:28.59 | sreich | linux supports it out of the box |
| 23:29.24 | sreich | mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/test |
| 23:29.28 | sreich | bam, done. |
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| 23:30.01 | haole | sreich: i guess this is a no :D |
| 23:30.28 | sreich | I don't know, I've never taken any initiative to find out/care |
| 23:30.36 | sreich | since it's so easy by just cli |
| 23:30.49 | sreich | that there is just no point for a gui for it. for me anyways |
| 23:32.08 | sreich | unless you refer to daemon tools' ability to defeat SecuROM and SafeDisc.. |
| 23:33.02 | shevy | hmm |
| 23:33.09 | shevy | haole, did you look at kde-apps yet? |
| 23:33.26 | shevy | sreich, i think some users want to avoid touching the CLI |
| 23:34.26 | sreich | quick wp search game me a gnome one.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furius_ISO_Mount |
| 23:34.38 | sreich | that's just to mount them. k3b can extract burn and modify them, but not mount. |
| 23:34.49 | haole | shevy: no... gonna try... i'm an advanced user... i just find it practival to click on an iso file and see it mounted... but thanks, your answer was correct, sreich |
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| 23:36.03 | javier_ | haole: you can also type iso:// on dolphin |
| 23:36.15 | javier_ | iso://file.iso |
| 23:36.19 | shevy | hmm haole you can also add a small konqueror snippet easily to get this behaviour |
| 23:36.26 | shevy | i dont know if that works in kde 4 :) |
| 23:36.44 | javier_ | a servicemenu would do that ;) |
| 23:36.49 | shevy | i mean the "click somewhere, do this"... ah yes that was the name |
| 23:36.56 | shevy | see, i already forget knowledge i had 4 years ago ;P |
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| 23:37.45 | sreich | :) |
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| 23:38.22 | javier_ | haole: just in case you're interested https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=krusader_browse_iso.desktop&package=krusader&project=KDE%3AKDE4%3AFactory%3ADesktop |
| 23:38.47 | javier_ | that's the service menu for the kio slave |
| 23:40.37 | haole | javier_: that looks nice... thanks |
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| 23:41.48 | javier_ | you have to put it in /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/ |
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