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| 01:50.25 | snarkster | hi there |
| 01:50.41 | snarkster | kdm doesnt seem to support xdmcp anymore? |
| 01:51.20 | snarkster | kubuntu 10.4 |
| 01:51.52 | snarkster | cause Id really like to get rid of the monitor on my desk and just use my laptop to connect and log into my kde machine |
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| 01:52.57 | sreich | yes it does |
| 01:53.12 | snarkster | it does?? awsome can you direct me how to do that? |
| 01:53.26 | snarkster | Ive been googling for 2 days on it |
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| 01:53.35 | snarkster | nothing that google suggests works |
| 01:53.41 | sreich | kdm doc book xdmcp |
| 01:53.52 | sreich | should lead you directly to our handbook site |
| 01:54.02 | snarkster | awsome going there now |
| 01:54.45 | snarkster | doesnt lead right to it. LOL |
| 01:54.52 | sreich | damnit |
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| 01:55.27 | sreich | meh, it was close enough |
| 01:55.27 | snarkster | the kdm handbook |
| 01:55.28 | sreich | http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase-workspace/kdm/index.html |
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| 01:55.55 | sreich | yeah, that's what happens when there are 2 different terminologies for essentially the same thing ;) |
| 01:56.23 | snarkster | yah |
| 01:56.35 | sreich | have fun :) |
| 01:56.36 | snarkster | i keep getting just a black screen |
| 01:56.50 | snarkster | thanx hopefully itll work this time with the proper knowledge |
| 01:57.32 | sreich | oh, hm..iirc it may take some tinkering with X when you remove that monitor |
| 01:57.54 | sreich | since X uses autodetect and will see no display since none is connected and I don't think it sets the size of it properly |
| 01:57.59 | sreich | so you may have to force it |
| 02:00.01 | snarkster | ok good suggestion |
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| 03:19.14 | oneforall | ho printer |
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| 05:15.43 | leontopod | is there any place on the kde task bar to put program icons? |
| 05:15.58 | leontopod | I see the menu, the desktop selectors, running programs, and the systray |
| 05:16.05 | leontopod | but I don't see any room for program icons |
| 05:16.10 | leontopod | and what is a widget? |
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| 05:57.10 | Teratogen | uhm, where in kde 4 do I set a screen saver? |
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| 06:02.10 | junkDawgie | Teratogen: systemsettings>Desktop |
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| 06:18.06 | Teratogen | awww, hell |
| 06:18.13 | Teratogen | they got rid of my favorite screensaver |
| 06:18.18 | Teratogen | graynetics |
| 06:18.19 | Teratogen | =( |
| 06:19.23 | Teratogen | oh wait, found it! |
| 06:19.24 | Teratogen | WHOOP! |
| 06:19.30 | Teratogen | so how do I SET a screensaver |
| 06:19.34 | Teratogen | there is no "OK" button |
| 06:19.50 | junkDawgie | Apply? bottom right? |
| 06:19.59 | thiago_home | there's an Ok button |
| 06:20.06 | thiago_home | next to Apply and Cancel |
| 06:20.11 | Teratogen | I see Preview and Settings |
| 06:20.15 | Teratogen | no Apply or Cancel |
| 06:20.19 | thiago_home | further down |
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| 06:20.45 | thiago_home | there are 5 buttons on the bottom row |
| 06:20.51 | thiago_home | three to the right: Ok, Apply and Cancel |
| 06:21.08 | Teratogen | I am at Screensaver Preferences, right? |
| 06:22.09 | Teratogen | I just have Preview and Settings |
| 06:22.22 | Teratogen | I must be at the wrong window |
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| 06:23.20 | Teratogen | thiago, I don't have a bottom row |
| 06:24.15 | Teratogen | oh, I WAS in the wrong window |
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| 06:25.39 | Teratogen | KDE 4 sure is wonky =) |
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| 06:28.08 | Teratogen | how do I get windows 9x type chrome in KDE 4? |
| 06:28.25 | thiago_home | select the Windows style |
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| 06:28.50 | Teratogen | thiago, from where? |
| 06:28.55 | Teratogen | and thanks in advance for answering =) |
| 06:29.05 | thiago_home | in the Appearance part of System Settings |
| 06:30.24 | Teratogen | whups |
| 06:30.37 | Teratogen | had to terminate it |
| 06:30.40 | Teratogen | it locked up! |
| 06:31.50 | Teratogen | I don't understand, there is no room for program icons on the task bar? |
| 06:34.03 | junkDawgie | Teratogen: unlock the plasma desktop/workspace and then you can drag items off the menu to the taskbar |
| 06:34.31 | junkDawgie | cashew at the top right... click and choose Unlock |
| 06:36.41 | Teratogen | don't see an "unlock" |
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| 06:37.43 | Teratogen | I put the firefox icon on the desktop no problem |
| 06:37.57 | Teratogen | but when I try to drag it to the taskbar nothing happens =/ |
| 06:38.07 | junkDawgie | okay, i'm talking about the cashew shaped item in the top right corner (should be there) click it to get a dropdown menu..at the bottom should be "Unlock Widgets" |
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| 06:38.33 | Teratogen | junk, right now it is set to "Lock Widgets" |
| 06:38.40 | Teratogen | so the widgets are unlocked I guess right now |
| 06:38.50 | Teratogen | but where on the taskbar is there room for program icons? |
| 06:38.57 | Teratogen | I don't see anywhere on the taskbar |
| 06:38.59 | junkDawgie | is there a cashew shape on the far right of the taskbar? |
| 06:39.08 | Teratogen | OH! |
| 06:39.11 | Teratogen | yep |
| 06:39.21 | junkDawgie | then it IS unlocked already |
| 06:39.36 | Teratogen | so how do I drag the firefox icon to the taskbar? |
| 06:39.44 | Teratogen | so I can click on the icon on the taskbar and start firefox? |
| 06:39.50 | Teratogen | or is that capability gone forever? |
| 06:40.25 | junkDawgie | you should be able to open the menu... grab and drag the firefox entry to the taskbar |
| 06:40.30 | Teratogen | I guess I am still thinking KDE 3.5 |
| 06:40.36 | Teratogen | ok |
| 06:41.46 | junkDawgie | an alternate way to accomplish this is to select Add Widget from the cashew menu and drag the Quicklauncher widget to the taskbar |
| 06:42.28 | junkDawgie | this gives you some control on icon size and how many are displayed |
| 06:42.43 | Teratogen | say junk, how do I make a disappearing taskbar? |
| 06:42.57 | Teratogen | you know, that pops up when you drag the mouse to the bottom of the screen |
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| 06:43.51 | junkDawgie | if you click the rightside cashew on the taskbar... you will get a slide-out bar... click More Settings |
| 06:44.17 | hyper_ch | hmmm, is there no debug symbol package for dolphin? |
| 06:44.28 | Teratogen | cool thanks junk |
| 06:44.35 | Teratogen | I will figure out the program icon thing another time |
| 06:44.39 | junkDawgie | have fun, Teratogen |
| 06:44.42 | Teratogen | I just can't seem to crack it tonight! |
| 06:44.56 | Teratogen | also, widget is new to me |
| 06:45.02 | Teratogen | not sure what a widget is |
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| 06:45.43 | junkDawgie | it's just a container for "something"... and resides in the plasma workspace |
| 06:45.59 | junkDawgie | shares resources |
| 06:46.21 | Teratogen | they seem to be little programs that do cute things |
| 06:46.38 | junkDawgie | as good a explaination as any |
| 06:49.10 | Teratogen | hey the weather widget is pretty cool |
| 06:49.49 | junkDawgie | i'm partial to the yawp weather widget, opinions vary... there is a lot of them |
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| 08:04.40 | AlexC_ | Morning |
| 08:05.07 | AlexC_ | I'm trying to connect to my XMPP/Jabber server via Kopete however when I set the status to 'Online' is instantly changes then goes back to 'Offline' - any ideas? |
| 08:05.58 | AlexC_ | PSI can connect just fine |
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| 08:36.52 | nawk | can someone please recommend a book on Agile Development and/or XP? I'm asking this here b/c I'm aware many developers are familiar (and are using) the techniques/practices in these methodologies |
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| 08:50.03 | removido | Hello! may I give some suggestions |
| 08:50.37 | removido | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.51 | removido | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.56 | AlexC_ | removido: bugs.kde.org |
| 08:51.04 | removido | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.21 | removido | it's not a bug |
| 08:51.34 | AlexC_ | removido: so? Read the website :) |
| 08:51.34 | Sho_ | removido: bugs.kde.org is also for wishlist items |
| 08:51.57 | removido | wishlist items yes |
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| 08:52.35 | removido | I still use kde 3,5 |
| 08:52.45 | removido | and gnome |
| 08:53.30 | ultrav1olet | For those who's alive here: does your /usr/share/icons/hicolor directory contain "index.desktop" file? |
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| 08:53.57 | pinotree | ultrav1olet: what's the issue? |
| 08:54.08 | ultrav1olet | bug 241414 |
| 08:54.29 | AlexC_ | ultrav1olet: no I don't here (Arch) |
| 08:54.29 | ultrav1olet | I'm struggling to understand why icons are not being loaded |
| 08:54.46 | AlexC_ | there is index.theme, but no index.desktop |
| 08:55.23 | AlexC_ | I'm trying to connect to my XMPP/Jabber server via Kopete however when I set the status to 'Online' is instantly changes then goes back to 'Offline' - any ideas? |
| 08:55.25 | removido | has a index.theme |
| 08:55.42 | ultrav1olet | thanks |
| 08:56.33 | ultrav1olet | pinotree: any ideas? |
| 08:56.43 | pinotree | not without reading the bug report |
| 08:57.50 | ultrav1olet | well, I've named it |
| 08:58.06 | pinotree | sure, let me read it |
| 08:58.20 | Sho_ | slides a morning coffee over to pinotree |
| 08:58.26 | Sho_ | coffee and the morning bug newspaper |
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| 09:00.34 | pinotree | ultrav1olet: give me few minutes, and i'll give you something to test |
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| 09:00.53 | bjohan | any way to use kde on two displays? |
| 09:01.25 | ultrav1olet | thank you! |
| 09:01.55 | ultrav1olet | bjohan: what doesn't work for you? |
| 09:02.53 | bjohan | ultrav1olet: i have a setup with two displays, and when i try to start kde on display 0.1 i get a message that kde appears to be running on that display, but it is black |
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| 09:04.22 | ronr | hi, how do I tell kde4 to use alsa for sound (sounds working fine with speaker-test but not in kde) |
| 09:04.23 | hart | is there a equalizer for alsa? |
| 09:04.50 | bjohan | ultrav1olet: my first hopes was that kdm would start kde on both displays when i logged in but that did not work, so i sat $DISPLAY to 0.1 in a terminal and ran startkde |
| 09:04.53 | ronr | alsamixer I think |
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| 09:05.24 | bjohan | hart: i think some soundcards has a built in equalizer, otherwise there is a project http://www.thedigitalmachine.net/alsaequal.html |
| 09:05.46 | bjohan | hart: it creates a new alsa device called equal, which you can equalize =) |
| 09:06.48 | ultrav1olet | bjohan: try starting KDE normally from KDM, then extend your desktop to the second display using `xrandr` |
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| 09:07.59 | hart | bjohan: yea i tried alsaaequal but aint' working. |
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| 09:08.14 | bjohan | hart: did you tell the programs to use the alsa device named equal? |
| 09:08.30 | hart | bjohan: alsamixer -D eual |
| 09:08.35 | hart | bjohan: equal |
| 09:08.48 | hart | bjohan: it does NOETHING when i move those BARs |
| 09:08.56 | bjohan | hart: but you also have to tell the software used to for playing sounds to use the equal device |
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| 09:09.16 | bjohan | hart: otherwise it still plays the sound using your normal output device as usual :) |
| 09:09.22 | hart | bjohan: i dont everything supposte to do |
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| 09:09.37 | hart | bjohan: ah well in mplayer how to put it? |
| 09:09.41 | ultrav1olet | bjohan: http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html |
| 09:09.44 | bjohan | hart: let me check |
| 09:09.54 | mat69 | hi, is there a live cd with 4.5 beta 2? |
| 09:09.57 | hart | bjohan: ok kewl! |
| 09:10.51 | hart | bjohan: i'l go for a smoke |
| 09:11.03 | bjohan | ultrav1olet: thanks, ill check it out as soon as i've helped hart :) |
| 09:11.15 | bjohan | hart: i dont have mplayer installed, do you have vlc? |
| 09:11.28 | ultrav1olet | mat69: use any devel distro in a VM |
| 09:11.44 | ultrav1olet | mat69: like Debian Sid or Fedora Rawhide |
| 09:12.45 | hart | bjohan: yep i have |
| 09:12.48 | mat69 | ultrav1olet: I am currently compiling stuff myself for developing, the reason I'd prefer a live cd is to be able to check if a bug is due to bad configuration/rest of libs etc. on my side or really a bug |
| 09:13.02 | bjohan | hart: in vlc, tools/preferences then click "Show settings: All", then in the tree, audio/output modules/alsa and then select equal from the pulldown menu |
| 09:13.04 | ultrav1olet | mat69: you can even install KDE4.5 in Ubuntu |
| 09:13.09 | pinotree | ultrav1olet: wget 'http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=kyeamZz5', and put that as /opt/kde4/share/icons/hicolor/index.theme (yes, overwriting the current one) |
| 09:13.21 | mat69 | so if those distros are well configured when I could give them a shot |
| 09:13.29 | bjohan | you have to do similar things for all the other software you use, or change so that equal is alsa default device, which i dont know how to do, but im sure some one knows :) |
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| 09:13.58 | mat69 | ultrav1olet: is there a best way to do it? |
| 09:14.22 | ultrav1olet | mat69: http://www.kubuntu.org/news |
| 09:14.34 | mat69 | ultrav1olet: thank you very much :) |
| 09:14.41 | hart | bjohan: i dont have equal there? |
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| 09:14.59 | ultrav1olet | pinotree: wait a minute, I'll relogon |
| 09:16.37 | hart | bjohan: i dont hve it there |
| 09:17.09 | hart | bjohan: make clean; make uninstall;make; make install ? |
| 09:18.58 | ultrav1olet | pinotree: you are genius! |
| 09:19.05 | ultrav1olet | pinotree: it now works |
| 09:19.52 | bjohan | ultrav1olet: can kde4 handle two screens? |
| 09:20.04 | hart | bjorn: http://pastebin.ca/1882768 |
| 09:20.06 | bjohan | i'm not using xinerama |
| 09:20.19 | bjohan | hart: maybe you have to restart alsa? |
| 09:20.55 | hart | bjohan: how? |
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| 09:21.13 | d3x | bjohan, it can perfectly well |
| 09:21.19 | bjohan | hart: what dist are you using? |
| 09:21.24 | hart | bjohan: kubuntu |
| 09:21.25 | ultrav1olet | bjohan: KDE shouldn't care about two screens, X server cares :) |
| 09:21.51 | bjohan | ultrav1olet: something here cares =) |
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| 09:22.23 | hart | lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/wilhart/.gvfs Output information may be incomplete. |
| 09:22.26 | hart | what is this? |
| 09:22.39 | pinotree | gvfs, something of gnome |
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| 09:23.23 | bjohan | hmm, it seems kde's windowmanager is already running on that screen |
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| 09:23.54 | ultrav1olet | pinotree: will you submit a fix to SVN? |
| 09:24.03 | hart | bjohan: well i restarted alsa but in vlc no equal |
| 09:24.15 | hart | bjohan: i just restared my computer like 30 minutes ago |
| 09:24.22 | hart | bjohan: all should work |
| 09:24.25 | ultrav1olet | pinotree: what about directories that doesn't even have this file? |
| 09:24.32 | bjohan | hart: sorry, i dont think i can provide any more help :/ maybe alsaequal has a forum or something? |
| 09:24.36 | pinotree | not an issue |
| 09:24.57 | hart | bjohan: sniff.. |
| 09:25.18 | bjohan | hart: or use software that has a builtin equalizer :) |
| 09:25.55 | hart | bjohan: couldyou recomend something?P |
| 09:26.00 | hart | i really need this bass down |
| 09:26.11 | hart | neighbours are yelling |
| 09:26.26 | hart | bjohan: hmm know about mplayer eq? |
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| 09:26.48 | AlexC_ | I'm trying to connect to my XMPP/Jabber server via Kopete however when I set the status to 'Online' is instantly changes then goes back to 'Offline' - any ideas? |
| 09:27.24 | bjohan | hart: im unsure of mplayer, but im pretty sure vlc has an equalizer |
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| 09:27.36 | thiago | AlexC_: I had trouble with XMPP too |
| 09:27.39 | thiago | it disconnects and reconnects |
| 09:27.42 | ultrav1olet | AlexC_: do you have any other Jabber clients to check your super server? |
| 09:27.42 | thiago | the server disconnects |
| 09:28.14 | ultrav1olet | AlexC_: have you tried PSI? |
| 09:28.32 | AlexC_ | ultrav1olet: yes, PSI and Pidgin both work fine |
| 09:28.46 | ultrav1olet | AlexC_: that means you've found a bug :) |
| 09:28.55 | AlexC_ | awesome |
| 09:29.10 | hart | bjohan: yeaa hmm.... |
| 09:29.12 | AlexC_ | where can I get more details on this though? I can't just report it and say it doesn't work |
| 09:29.21 | hart | bjohan: i need equalizer for alll my media software |
| 09:29.30 | hart | bjohan: there is an pulsequalizer for all programs |
| 09:29.37 | hart | bjohan: but i removed pulse totally |
| 09:29.54 | hart | bjohan: that' worked good but i need a real page to insatll pulseaudio again ? |
| 09:30.18 | hart | bjohan: when i go to settings->mulimedia there is pulse server but it's gray so not enabled? how do i enable it? |
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| 09:31.53 | ultrav1olet | hart: reinstall PA server, log off, log on |
| 09:32.10 | hart | ultrav1olet: PA server? |
| 09:32.22 | hart | can you point me to a url that has info for installing pulseaudio from scratch ? |
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| 09:33.15 | ultrav1olet | hart: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-201234.html - read the last post from this thread |
| 09:33.16 | hart | ultrav1olet: i had that equalizer working pretty good but then i lost the device |
| 09:33.21 | ultrav1olet | a solution for ALSA |
| 09:33.55 | hart | ultrav1olet: ok this is for alsa? |
| 09:34.14 | ultrav1olet | yep |
| 09:34.21 | ultrav1olet | also this one must work http://alsa-eq-plugin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 09:34.51 | ultrav1olet | and try this one http://sourceforge.net/projects/rteq/ |
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| 09:34.58 | ultrav1olet | plenty of options |
| 09:35.04 | hart | ultrav1olet: yea but that's for solaris or something |
| 09:35.46 | hart | ultrav1olet: 4) Slackware-10.0.0 or newer BCSLinux-2.0 or newer |
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| 09:37.35 | Mcar | howdo i make my folders look different? |
| 09:38.06 | hart | ultrav1olet: ok i downloaded those alsa_eq_plugin and trEq |
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| 09:38.14 | hart | ultrav1olet: how do i compile alsa_eq_plugin ? |
| 09:40.07 | thiago | sounds like a non-KDE question |
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| 09:43.17 | Mcar | how do i make my folders look different? |
| 09:43.19 | ultrav1olet | hart: #linux for compilation questions :) |
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| 09:45.05 | ultrav1olet | Mcar: right click a directory, change its icon |
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| 09:47.24 | hart | ultrav1olet: so i need alsa_eq_plugin for asoundrc to work ? |
| 09:48.02 | ultrav1olet | probably :) |
| 09:48.08 | ultrav1olet | I've never set up any of them |
| 09:48.23 | hart | ugh |
| 09:49.29 | Mcar | ultravlolet how do i change what colour my panel is and it's transparancey |
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| 09:51.20 | hart | ultrav1olet: sniff what''s this rtEq ? |
| 09:51.43 | hart | ultrav1olet: ./rteq: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 09:52.07 | hart | ultrav1olet: and yes i use kde |
| 09:53.32 | ultrav1olet | Mcar: KStart -> System Settings -> Workspace Appearance -> Desktop Theme |
| 09:53.48 | ultrav1olet | hart: no idea |
| 09:54.00 | hart | hmm |
| 09:54.26 | ultrav1olet | hart: what's your distro? |
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| 09:55.37 | hart | ultrav1olet: kubuntu |
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| 09:57.41 | infinitylx_ | hi! |
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| 09:59.32 | hart | ultrav1olet: i think i'm gonna try pulseaudio again |
| 09:59.56 | hart | ultrav1olet: in /etc/group do i need to puse audio:pulse i remove it for alsas sake |
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| 10:05.02 | g4tsu_ | Hello |
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| 10:06.08 | infinitylx_ | can you guys suggest some great app for twitter (well integrated in kde)? |
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| 10:06.28 | Kolia | infinitylx_: choqok |
| 10:06.38 | g4tsu_ | I've have this script http://pastebin.ca/1882776 |
| 10:07.15 | g4tsu_ | but I doesn't work -> nu such function for sendSession |
| 10:07.40 | g4tsu_ | I found a website that tell me to luanch konsole --scripts |
| 10:07.49 | g4tsu_ | but I4ve got the same error |
| 10:09.05 | infinitylx_ | and exept choqok, with more functional? because web interface have much more abilities. |
| 10:10.08 | Kolia | infinitylx_: i think choqok is the most advanced one in KDE |
| 10:10.21 | Kolia | what ability are you missing? |
| 10:11.20 | infinitylx_ | Kolia: ok will look, i was using it some long time ago... hope they have make some progress. |
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| 10:11.32 | g4tsu_ | nobody ? |
| 10:11.49 | infinitylx_ | Kolia: stop follow, follow, search for people... |
| 10:12.19 | pinotree | isn't there a search in choqok? (i don't use it, but i heard about it) |
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| 10:14.18 | infinitylx_ | pinotree: search yes, but not for people and you still can't start follow them. |
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| 10:19.49 | Kolia | infinitylx_: well choqok has progressed a lot recently |
| 10:19.52 | Kolia | so have a try |
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| 10:23.33 | jaggz | I think I'm going to follow KDE's model of putting all the KDE projects in one repository |
| 10:23.51 | jaggz | Linus seemed not too happy with that idea though |
| 10:25.33 | jaggz | I'm looking through websvn of kde.. trying to understand how to go about organizing such a thing |
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| 10:27.22 | jaggz | like what is /trunk/www/apps/? it has only 7 apps in it |
| 10:27.45 | pinotree | trunk/www is the website (most of it) |
| 10:28.15 | jaggz | oh, just one website? I have a few of them in this project. |
| 10:29.10 | jaggz | maybe these are all only on kde.org then. Unfortunately I'm not that familiar with the kde project from this angle.. just have followed some of its developments over the years |
| 10:30.05 | jaggz | I basically got really tired of having tons of separate repositories.. one for my library, one for templates, one for website html/images, .. it's such a mess |
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| 10:31.58 | jaggz | coming up with a nice directory structure for it all is also .. hm .. :) |
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| 10:33.36 | Torch | wonders what all this has to do with kde. |
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| 10:36.44 | ultrav1olet | too |
| 10:37.26 | ultrav1olet | or probably he just wanted to express himself ;) |
| 10:38.37 | jaggz | kde's my role model for rcs I thought I said |
| 10:39.37 | jaggz | so I was trying to better understand what KDE's doing |
| 10:40.51 | annma | rcs? |
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| 10:41.32 | Torch | annma: revision control system |
| 10:41.52 | annma | ah |
| 10:42.19 | annma | svn is quite OK for me |
| 10:43.25 | annma | svn is easy for simple tasks, git will offer more powerful solutions for some advanced tasks |
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| 10:45.45 | jaggz | I've been using svn for years.. usually just its basic operations |
| 10:46.03 | jaggz | I've wanted to get into git.. but nowadays there's too much to do to learn something new |
| 10:46.13 | annma | git is not easy |
| 10:46.22 | annma | and has its onw flaws |
| 10:46.26 | annma | own |
| 10:46.27 | jaggz | difficult to choose the investment of learning over the other |
| 10:46.40 | annma | some KDE projects already are on git |
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| 10:46.53 | annma | it depends what you are as well |
| 10:46.54 | jaggz | I'd probably be more productive with SVN if I didn't think about its internals which bother me :) |
| 10:47.07 | annma | a "consumer" or a project admin |
| 10:47.33 | jaggz | I'm basically the only developer on these projects.. all under one project umbrella |
| 10:48.50 | annma | isn't the umbrella the decision maker? or is that you as well? |
| 10:49.50 | jaggz | that's me too -- the developer. so I get to choose how to manage the projects technically |
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| 10:50.21 | annma | if you're alone I don't see why you need git |
| 10:51.07 | jaggz | okay.. that's nice to hear -- since I'm bringing these all into one svn repository :) |
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| 10:52.02 | jaggz | they're, right now, many svn repositories for each project, and the web portions are separate, libs, separate, etc. it's too difficult to manually move around and check out the different portions.. hence, I'm going to follow KDE's repository model. :) |
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| 10:52.31 | jaggz | plus KDE has always seemed to have some wisdom/goodness to them -- just the feeling I got from some of their decisions, as well as using it. |
| 10:52.34 | jaggz | Not that others aren't |
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| 13:02.26 | jaggz | so you guys actually keep all your images and stuff in the repository as well |
| 13:02.39 | jaggz | ? and what about work files, like .xcf or .psd files? |
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| 13:03.50 | jaggz | trying to find where those source files are located |
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| 14:20.53 | lontra | is there an OSD for brightness adjustment in kde 4.4? i see several distros offering this (e.g. kubuntu) but i don't see this in debian with 4.4.3. is this not upstream but instead a kubuntu (and other distros) thing? will a brightness OSD reach upstream? |
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| 14:50.57 | Muzer | How do you get rid of that absolutely ridiculous stolen-a-poor-feature-to-make-KDE-seem-more-like-Mac-OS shutdown timeout thing? |
| 14:51.36 | Muzer | I didn't mind before but I just lost about 10 minutes worth of configuration from it, so I'd rather disable a pointless and useless feature now than have that happen again. |
| 14:51.43 | Muzer | Couldn't find an option for it |
| 14:54.55 | Muzer | (if you're interested, I was going to unplug an audio cable from the front panel of my computer and into the capture card instead; must have nudged the power button, because when I got back, the shutdown window was displayed with 1 second left - I hammered escape but it wasn't in time. Then I opened kate and typed a load of crap hoping it would notice it was unsaved and cancel the shutdown, alas, no, it just killed kate) |
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| 15:01.03 | Muzer | anyone? |
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| 15:03.31 | Torch | Muzer: i don't think it can be disabled. |
| 15:03.42 | Muzer | hmm |
| 15:03.49 | Torch | Muzer: the code at least does not seem to suggest it can, though i'm not familiar with it, just skimming it now. |
| 15:03.58 | Muzer | weird |
| 15:04.18 | annma | you can use dbus to log out instead maybe |
| 15:04.35 | Muzer | hmm |
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| 15:04.42 | Muzer | well, could I disable the logout window on power button press then? |
| 15:05.34 | Torch | Muzer: sure |
| 15:05.36 | Muzer | (I think it was accidentally nudging the power button that caused it, can't think of any other cause) |
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| 15:49.28 | bradpitt | hi. i need help.. i just installed kubuntu lucid, and after installing nvidia driver i type sudo nvidia-xconfig and kdesudo nvidia-settings, but it won't let me to save xorg. this is the error msg " Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing. " |
| 15:50.12 | pinotree | in recent times, Xorg got the ability to start and run even without a xorg.conf |
| 15:50.28 | pinotree | maybe the nvidia utilities don't cope with that |
| 15:51.22 | bradpitt | and what can i do now? |
| 15:51.44 | bradpitt | because everytime i reboot the resolution come back to 640x480 |
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| 15:53.01 | pinotree | not sure... |
| 15:53.21 | pinotree | does not use nvidia, so passes the question to nvidia users |
| 15:53.37 | bradpitt | agrees |
| 15:53.59 | Muzer | Did you install from the repo or by yourself? |
| 15:54.12 | bradpitt | from the repo |
| 15:54.21 | Muzer | hmm, I'm surprised it hasn't auto-configured |
| 15:54.30 | bradpitt | i'm not that advanced to install it by myself |
| 15:54.52 | Muzer | I would install the nvidia-settings package, run nvidia-settings (it's a GUI utility) as root (so with kdesudo), get it to auto configure, then click save to xorg.conf |
| 15:55.16 | Muzer | actually it's "Save to X configuration file" |
| 15:55.33 | Muzer | I think all you need to do to get it to autoconfigure is to go into "X Server Display Information" and click "Detect Displays" |
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| 15:55.54 | jcolby | does anyone know what the status is of the networkmanager plasmoid? Is it usable? Where is it being developed? |
| 15:56.07 | bradpitt | yes i already run nvidia-settings and when i click save to x i got this msg Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing |
| 15:56.23 | bradpitt | * with kdesudo |
| 15:56.24 | Muzer | bradpitt: Try running the program as root - so with kdesudo |
| 15:56.25 | Muzer | ah |
| 15:56.26 | Muzer | hmm |
| 15:56.30 | bradpitt | :D |
| 15:56.33 | Muzer | lol |
| 15:56.38 | bradpitt | lulz |
| 15:57.20 | Muzer | try creating a file there with sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try the NVIDIA thing immediately afterwards (if it still fails, it's pretty important you delete it again - with sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf - before you reboot or log out, otherwise you may end up with no display at all) |
| 15:57.37 | bradpitt | ok let me try |
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| 16:01.16 | bradpitt | sorry bro, it's still gave me error |
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| 16:04.35 | bradpitt | this is the output |
| 16:04.37 | bradpitt | http://paste.ubuntu.com/449714/ |
| 16:05.15 | Muzer | hmm |
| 16:05.40 | Muzer | aha |
| 16:05.43 | Muzer | I ran into that problem |
| 16:05.49 | Muzer | I forgot about that |
| 16:05.53 | Muzer | it's Kubuntu's fault |
| 16:06.02 | Muzer | you basically need a few more packages they forgot to set as dependencies |
| 16:06.08 | bradpitt | it's an LTS release :) |
| 16:06.13 | Muzer | I know |
| 16:06.15 | Muzer | crap, isn't it? :P |
| 16:06.21 | Muzer | OK, so install: |
| 16:06.23 | Muzer | * pkg-config |
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| 16:06.38 | Muzer | * python-gtk2 |
| 16:06.39 | bradpitt | with apt-get ? |
| 16:06.45 | Muzer | however you like |
| 16:06.53 | bradpitt | okies |
| 16:07.09 | Muzer | I THINK those two are all you need, but if it still fails, pastebin the error again and I'll see what else |
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| 16:07.59 | bradpitt | ok please wait |
| 16:08.20 | Torch | notes this is a kde support channle. |
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| 16:09.11 | shamoun | hey guys |
| 16:09.16 | occy | hey guys, I'm having issues with Sound in KDE. I can boot to GNOME and sound works fine. any ideas? |
| 16:09.38 | shamoun | what is the text editor you gus like best for kde? |
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| 16:09.58 | Muzer | shamoun: kate for me |
| 16:10.16 | Muzer | Or nano if I'm in a command-line mood :P (*still* haven't found the time to learn vim) |
| 16:10.30 | shamoun | haha |
| 16:10.35 | bradpitt | Muzer thank you so much |
| 16:10.36 | shamoun | same here |
| 16:10.38 | occy | vim++ :) |
| 16:10.45 | Muzer | bradpitt: No problem! :D |
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| 16:10.56 | occy | whoa bradpitt is a kde user! |
| 16:10.58 | Muzer | Ubuntu/Kubuntu package makers really need to be shot for this mistake :P |
| 16:10.58 | occy | lol |
| 16:11.00 | shamoun | i also have a question about kopete, that channel has been dead for like 2 days now |
| 16:11.11 | Muzer | seems nobody uses NVIDIA + KDE in the Kubuntu team... |
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| 16:11.32 | Muzer | occy: Hmm, define "having issues"? It's a bit vague :P |
| 16:11.44 | Muzer | do you mean doesn't work at all? Do you get any errors either on logon or when trying to configure it? |
| 16:11.45 | bradpitt | and for you torch, i'm sorry i just tryin to get help as soon as possible doesnt mean to move kubuntu support to this channel :D |
| 16:11.51 | occy | Muzer: ie. I can't play sound in flash, in web, nor... will mp3's play |
| 16:11.57 | shamoun | do you guys know if you can save the different availability settings you put for all your accounts in kopete. like one available, one inviible whatever so i don't need to set them manually every time |
| 16:12.07 | Muzer | occy: So you don't hear any sound at all? Or do you hear the logon sound? |
| 16:12.17 | occy | Muzer: they work when I log into gnome. I think some KDE sound daeomon isn't starting |
| 16:12.27 | occy | Muzer: aye I don't hear the KDE startup sound |
| 16:13.06 | occy | sound seems genuinly screwed under Ubuntu since 9.10 |
| 16:13.10 | Muzer | OK, try going into the multimedia configuration |
| 16:13.15 | Muzer | clicking on each device in turn |
| 16:13.17 | Muzer | and clicking test |
| 16:13.18 | occy | Muzer: k |
| 16:13.24 | occy | think I tried that but I'll try agian |
| 16:13.31 | Muzer | if you hear sound for any of them, move that to the top, apply it to all of them, log out + in again |
| 16:13.37 | Muzer | I think there is a button to apply the settings to all devices |
| 16:13.42 | bradpitt | brb guys |
| 16:13.42 | Muzer | *to all modes I mean |
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| 16:16.15 | occy | yeah, not working... I"m afraid I need to re-install :( |
| 16:16.35 | occy | or install kubuntu first instead of ubuntu -> upgrade |
| 16:17.04 | Muzer | hmm |
| 16:17.07 | Muzer | what sound devices are listeD? |
| 16:17.14 | Muzer | make that d lower case :P |
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| 16:17.42 | occy | Muzer: heh thanks for your help mate, I'm going to do the dirty and get started with re-installl... Ive been farting around with this for 2 days nwo. tired of it |
| 16:17.44 | occy | thanks |
| 16:18.24 | Muzer | lol |
| 16:18.26 | Muzer | no problem |
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| 16:19.26 | petsounds | Muzer, hi it's me bradpitt. i have question. whats the equivalent for ccsm in kde? kwin? i couldnt find it :( |
| 16:19.54 | Muzer | ccsm? What's that? Lol |
| 16:20.04 | Muzer | googles |
| 16:20.19 | Muzer | ah, something like compiz? |
| 16:20.23 | Muzer | yeah, kwin does that |
| 16:20.23 | petsounds | compiz config settings manager |
| 16:20.27 | Muzer | ah, yeah |
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| 16:20.38 | Muzer | system settings --> desktop --> desktop effects |
| 16:20.46 | jhambo | Is it possible to get korganizer to show the full event titles in the calendar?? it's not very usefull to look at a calender with lots of entries like "10:55 pm Meet..." and "8:00 am submit..."! |
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| 16:23.41 | petsounds | cool, thanks again bro |
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| 16:41.15 | lindenle1 | HI all I am in Ubuntu with kde 4.4.2 and I cannot get global shortcut keys for opening a terminal to work. I added my script to the menu and added a shortcut key with no luck. Any help would be very much appreciated! |
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| 16:43.31 | sharkk | hi, how to make some apps autostart in kde 4.4.2? |
| 16:43.48 | Muzer | sharkk: put them in ~/.kde/Autostart |
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| 16:43.52 | sharkk | at the login :P |
| 16:43.54 | Muzer | symlinks or bash script |
| 16:43.56 | Muzer | oh, at login |
| 16:44.06 | Muzer | wait, do you mean after you login |
| 16:44.08 | Muzer | or at the logins creen? |
| 16:44.11 | Muzer | *login screen |
| 16:44.15 | sharkk | nono autostart is ok |
| 16:44.20 | Muzer | OK |
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| 16:44.28 | sharkk | i didn't fidn it so i was wondering how... |
| 16:44.32 | Muzer | ah |
| 16:44.36 | Muzer | I'm sure there's a GUI way of doing it |
| 16:44.39 | Muzer | but I don't know what it is :P |
| 16:44.42 | sharkk | :) |
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| 16:46.28 | sharkk | tnx Muzer |
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| 16:49.57 | weakhead | Hello |
| 16:50.08 | weakhead | is it possible to hide location bar in Dolphin? |
| 16:50.20 | weakhead | and statusbar? |
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| 16:59.34 | daedaluz | no |
| 17:00.48 | weakhead | too bad, but thanks for answer |
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| 17:06.20 | jaggz | how do you guys manage source files for graphics.. like the original layered .psd, .xcf, or vector files.. ? |
| 17:06.30 | jaggz | (with regards to the SVN storage of them) |
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| 17:09.00 | QwertyManiac | jaggz: vector (svg) I think |
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| 17:20.18 | jaggz | Qwerty, that would make sense.. but where in the KDE repository are these source files? I find final .pngs here and there |
| 17:20.57 | QwertyManiac | jaggz: ah, one moment |
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| 17:21.29 | QwertyManiac | jaggz: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons/scalable/ |
| 17:21.47 | QwertyManiac | jaggz: browse around, svg under them |
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| 17:23.53 | jaggz | thanks :) |
| 17:24.27 | jaggz | well, scalable icons and source artwork aren't necessarily the same.. but they might be |
| 17:24.47 | jaggz | Like, say I work in gimp and I have an .xcf.gz or .xcf.bz2 file |
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| 17:27.29 | QwertyManiac | jaggz: ah sorry I took graphics as icons in mind |
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| 17:28.17 | jaggz | yeah, I mean like.. logos, artwork.. everything |
| 17:28.57 | jaggz | I'm trying to adopt KDE's method of keeping all of my sub-projects within a single project. I am not working on KDE directly, but I'm trying to learn from how they handle it. |
| 17:29.07 | jcolby | does anyone know what the status of the networkmanager plasmoid is? Is it usable now? Where can I download the source from? |
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| 17:29.51 | cb400f | jcolby: it's in kdereview.. and it should be close to good.. doesn't support hidden ssid yet afaik |
| 17:30.24 | jcolby | cb400f: cool thanks, interested in trying it out |
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| 17:33.31 | Muzer | hmm |
| 17:33.42 | Muzer | KDE thinks one of my printers should have "A5" as the default |
| 17:33.44 | Muzer | not quite sure why :P |
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| 17:33.54 | Muzer | I have to change it to A4 every time |
| 17:34.01 | Muzer | I've looked in the CUPS config |
| 17:34.03 | Muzer | all says A4 |
| 17:34.48 | Muzer | it's a Konica Minolta Magicolor 2400W, using the m2300w PPD |
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| 17:36.26 | cb400f | the printing is handled by Qt these days.. and it has been known to be a bit flaky in some cases |
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| 18:52.20 | lontra | is there an OSD for brightness adjustment in kde 4.4? i see several distros offering this (e.g. kubuntu) but i don't see this in debian with 4.4.3. is this not upstream but instead a kubuntu (and other distros) thing? will a brightness OSD reach upstream? |
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| 18:56.28 | lontra | brb |
| 18:56.52 | thiago_home | if it will reach upstream, that's a question you need to ask downstream |
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| 19:07.16 | lontra | back .. anyone about the OSD question? |
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| 19:24.58 | lontra | or is it a feature in 4.5? |
| 19:25.06 | lontra | that several distros backported? |
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| 19:26.17 | thiago_home | as far as I know, it's not a 4.5 feature |
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| 19:27.45 | lontra | thiago_home: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.5_Feature_Plan ... ctrl+f "brightness" |
| 19:28.05 | thiago_home | that doesn't change my experience |
| 19:28.27 | lontra | thiago_home: but it does say powerdevil done right? |
| 19:28.41 | thiago_home | your eyes are as good as mine |
| 19:28.44 | lontra | to verify i am not crazy |
| 19:28.54 | lontra | thiago_home: you don't know that ;) |
| 19:29.02 | thiago_home | though my build is a bit old |
| 19:29.06 | thiago_home | it might have been implemented since |
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| 19:33.43 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | hey guys, how do a i create an application launcher to a gui based python application? |
| 19:34.16 | thiago_home | an application launcher entry? |
| 19:34.25 | thiago_home | or do you want to write a new application launcher completely? |
| 19:34.39 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | new one |
| 19:35.04 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | it's to an application, a python script that has a gui element |
| 19:35.04 | thiago_home | well, open a text editor and start writing code |
| 19:35.16 | thiago_home | do you want to make it a Plasmoid? |
| 19:35.24 | thiago_home | Plasmoids can be written in Python |
| 19:35.25 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | i am totally new to kde man |
| 19:35.32 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | i dont know what a plasmoid is |
| 19:35.44 | thiago_home | plasma applet |
| 19:35.53 | thiago_home | the K menu application launcher is a plasmoid |
| 19:35.58 | thiago_home | the taskbar is a plasmoid |
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| 19:36.08 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | ok |
| 19:36.21 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | that is what i want, but just to launch a program |
| 19:36.29 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | like a shortcut in windows or launcher in ubuntu |
| 19:36.31 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | gnome |
| 19:37.21 | thiago_home | so you want an entry in the existing launcher mechanisms? |
| 19:37.32 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | i just want a shortcut |
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| 19:37.46 | thiago_home | it's the same way as any other Linux desktop |
| 19:37.51 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | i have a python application that i dont want to type out the full path in run everytime i want to launch it |
| 19:37.54 | thiago_home | create the .desktop file and install it in your system |
| 19:37.58 | thiago_home | it will be picked up by the menu system |
| 19:38.16 | thiago_home | or just create en entry in the menu with kmenuedit (the menu editor) |
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| 19:39.38 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | wheres the menu editor? |
| 19:39.42 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | i installed kde yesterday |
| 19:39.46 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | never used it before |
| 19:39.52 | thiago_home | you can right-click the K menu and select "Menu editor" |
| 19:39.57 | thiago_home | otherwise, just run kmenuedit |
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| 19:41.59 | NiGhtMarEs0nWax | thiago_him, thanks man, that is exactly what i needed. :) |
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| 20:03.59 | kikaerter | Hi everyone |
| 20:04.38 | kikaerter | I'm giving KDE a whirl for my first time since version 3 (attracted by the tiling), but I can't seem to figure out how to enable tiling. Could anyone give me a tip? |
| 20:05.16 | pinotree | only the development version (ie the future kde 4.5) can do window tiling |
| 20:05.54 | kikaerter | I just installed it from the Kubuntu beta ppa |
| 20:06.03 | kikaerter | and enabled it in the control center |
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| 20:06.29 | sreich | ah, well you have the beta then |
| 20:06.33 | kikaerter | yes |
| 20:06.36 | BooVeMan | Hi, I don't can't tell wether this is distro specific: I'm with kubuntu 10.01 with all patches applied and ever so often the taskbar will stop arranging my programs so that some buttons are one above another or if I extend the system area buttons slide behind the pager. Anyona has seen this kind of behavior or know a fix? |
| 20:06.57 | kikaerter | I think I'm just looking for some kind of keyboard shortcut to turn it on |
| 20:07.13 | thiago_home | BooVeMan: I've never seen that... |
| 20:08.44 | kikaerter | or possibly to toggle windows between tiling and floating |
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| 20:09.26 | BooVeMan | thiago_home: reasuring - but not helpful - what controls the arrangement? |
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| 20:14.02 | ugaaga | Hello, anybody here? |
| 20:14.32 | leonder | Hi! I have the problem with KDE. Can I get help there? |
| 20:14.59 | ugaaga | I have problem with KDE 4.5 beta 2 too |
| 20:15.21 | leonder | Oh, so fresh version! ) |
| 20:16.05 | ugaaga | Yes, it's fuc...ng blsck dcreen |
| 20:16.13 | ugaaga | black screen |
| 20:17.17 | ugaaga | After installation and restart I have black screen. But cursor on screen and KWin is working |
| 20:17.20 | leonder | what you want with beta ; ) |
| 20:17.52 | ugaaga | But it's Beta 2... |
| 20:18.00 | leonder | What are you install? |
| 20:18.53 | leonder | like a plasma problems |
| 20:19.01 | ugaaga | All packages from official site of KDE. I used kde-basis.ymp |
| 20:19.23 | ugaaga | Yes, I think thst Plasma troubles too |
| 20:19.28 | kikaerter | Sorry to have bothered you, I found it. Meta-F. |
| 20:19.47 | ugaaga | What can I do? |
| 20:19.59 | leonder | ugaaga: are you russian? |
| 20:20.05 | ugaaga | Yes... |
| 20:20.27 | leonder | i`m too... |
| 20:20.36 | ugaaga | ÐÑ Ñак Ð¼Ð¾Ð¶ÐµÑ Ð¿Ð¾-наÑемÑ? |
| 20:20.44 | pinotree | english please |
| 20:20.47 | ugaaga | Ok |
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| 20:21.47 | ugaaga | Why can tell me about my problem? |
| 20:21.51 | leonder | So, I have next problem: broken hotkey "ctrl+T" (new tab in many programs) |
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| 20:22.12 | ugaaga | No, it |
| 20:22.26 | ugaaga | Ctrl+T is working... |
| 20:23.04 | leonder | i don`t see that works |
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| 20:23.27 | leonder | but ctrl+shift+T does work |
| 20:23.40 | ugaaga | KDE 4.5? |
| 20:23.53 | leonder | no? i don`t know |
| 20:24.23 | ugaaga | Menu - Help - About KDE? |
| 20:24.32 | leonder | "stable" in arch linux repository |
| 20:24.53 | leonder | all 4 |
| 20:24.57 | ugaaga | So, it's not KDE 4.5 |
| 20:24.59 | leonder | 4.4.4 |
| 20:25.16 | lontra | quick question ... fn+f4 are shortcut to suspending my laptop ... however, these keys don't work in kde 4.4.4 in debian. how can i set these keys to do this function? |
| 20:25.56 | ugaaga | I'll be happy if KDE 4.5 star without black screen... |
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| 20:26.56 | leonder | lontra: afaik it is must be configured out of kde |
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| 20:32.07 | leonder | hey! does anybody know, what`s happen with my workspace? |
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| 20:32.37 | leonder | I repeat: do not work hotkey "ctrl+t" |
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| 20:33.07 | anders__ | hi ho |
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| 20:33.23 | anders__ | why canẠkmail complet adresses from my addressook? |
| 20:33.44 | anders__ | do you know if a working PIM suite exists for KDE? |
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| 20:34.19 | leonder | there is only questions here... |
| 20:34.32 | ugaaga | Leonder: check your hotkeys... |
| 20:34.34 | anders__ | some mail client with an addressbook maybe? |
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| 20:34.55 | anders__ | there was one in kde before the akonadi disaster |
| 20:34.56 | leonder | I was looking for a hotkeys of "systemsettings", but nowhere it is not found. I can not understand that the guilty. |
| 20:35.33 | ugaaga | You can add new hotkey |
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| 20:37.18 | leonder | i use ctrl+t in firefox and dolphin. this combination does not work (recognize?) on system layer - kde, I think |
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| 20:37.57 | leonder | "xev" behaves strangely |
| 20:38.20 | necro_ | My keyboard stopped functioning within KDE desktop environment for some reason. The keyboard works though and I was able to CTRL+ALT+F5 to get to a terminal to use irssi to chat. Is it possible I can restore keyboard functionality without restarting KDE? |
| 20:38.41 | necro_ | I am able to use the mouse within the desktop environment |
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| 20:39.36 | thiago_home | looks like you have a grabbed keyboard |
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| 20:39.51 | thiago_home | try closing some applications that are running |
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| 20:43.10 | anders__ | will the addressbook work with kmail in kde 4.5? 4.6? |
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| 20:43.31 | anders__ | will the addressbook have categories in kde 4.5? |
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| 20:43.58 | anders__ | will groups be saved somewhere sensible ever? |
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| 20:44.54 | leonder | thiango_home : I published some logout of xev - http://pastebin.com/Z71dp0T8 - this is log, when I press q,w,e,r,t,y while control was pressed |
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| 20:45.48 | Nece228 | sometimes in dolphin, back and forward is laggy |
| 20:45.58 | Nece228 | i mean i click back and i see some delay |
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| 20:46.38 | leonder | Nece228: confirm that I have seen it too |
| 20:47.11 | Nece228 | leonder: thats fine then. any explanation why it happens? |
| 20:47.47 | leonder | Nece228: I see it on Debian, now I`m ArchLinux user |
| 20:48.21 | Nece228 | leonder: yup, im usin arch |
| 20:48.58 | Nece228 | leonder: did kde 4.5 fixed it? |
| 20:49.08 | leonder | what version are you use? |
| 20:49.12 | Nece228 | 4.4.4 |
| 20:49.37 | leonder | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.26 | Nece228 | leonder: how to resolve this? |
| 20:50.40 | leonder | It seems that running a feature dolphin |
| 20:51.05 | leonder | probe to disable by order |
| 20:51.46 | leonder | try to disable the queue for different functions |
| 20:52.47 | Nece228 | leonder: where can i find this option? |
| 20:53.08 | leonder | try disable show miniatures and other |
| 20:53.44 | Nece228 | leonder: i cant understand. i already have disabled previews |
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| 20:55.01 | leonder | Nece228: lags is stable? |
| 20:55.22 | Nece228 | leonder: ??? |
| 20:56.10 | Nece228 | it sometimes happens sometimes not |
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| 20:56.46 | leonder | I am a simple user and came here to ask questions, and answers I have no excuse. |
| 20:57.04 | Nece228 | ok |
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| 21:13.04 | leonder | i closed all programs and hotkey now works >_< |
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| 21:16.43 | leonder | i found the reason - it was translit-plugin in psi-plus. it`s hotkeys are global, |
| 21:21.42 | lontra | quick question ... fn+f4 are shortcut to suspending my laptop ... however, these keys don't work in kde 4.4.4 in debian. how can i set these keys to do this function? these work in GNOME |
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| 22:42.47 | Simkin | hey guys |
| 22:42.59 | Simkin | is there any way to replace krunner with the "old" alt-f2 "runner" app? |
| 22:43.02 | Simkin | krunner is trash |
| 22:43.19 | Simkin | and I need to upgrade some users from 3.5.10 to 4.x this summer |
| 22:43.41 | Simkin | but they all use the webshortcuts rather extensively |
| 22:43.44 | thiago_home | no |
| 22:43.50 | Simkin | which are vey hit and miss in krunner |
| 22:43.56 | thiago_home | the old runner was minicli, which was part of kdesktop |
| 22:44.00 | thiago_home | it wasn't ported |
| 22:44.02 | Simkin | i can't even type in an ip address without it eating one of the periods. |
| 22:44.03 | thiago_home | it's dead |
| 22:44.12 | Simkin | so what can i do? |
| 22:44.15 | thiago_home | works fine here to type an IP address |
| 22:44.29 | Simkin | i don't beleive it, it also "hangs" frequently |
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| 22:44.49 | Simkin | alt-f2,oowriter "hit enter".. "hit enter again" screem. go to command line and run it from there. |
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| 22:45.13 | Simkin | i tried disabling a bunch of the plugins |
| 22:45.17 | Simkin | but it still acts dumb |
| 22:45.23 | thiago_home | that's a bug in D-Bus |
| 22:45.37 | thiago_home | all freezing bugs have now been fixed, but the fixes aren't available for everyone yet |
| 22:45.45 | thiago_home | they require a version not yet released of D-Bus |
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| 22:46.01 | Simkin | i wonder if i can disable d-bus support for krunner |
| 22:46.05 | thiago_home | no |
| 22:46.11 | thiago_home | you can't |
| 22:46.13 | Simkin | yah |
| 22:46.14 | thiago_home | there's no workaround. |
| 22:46.16 | Simkin | doesn't look like it |
| 22:46.21 | thiago_home | you just need to wait for the fix. |
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| 22:46.26 | Simkin | :( |
| 22:46.43 | Simkin | what version of dbus? 1.3? |
| 22:46.48 | thiago_home | yes |
| 22:46.50 | thiago_home | you need to wait for 1.4 |
| 22:47.00 | thiago_home | 1.3 is development. When it's stable, it will be called 1.4. |
| 22:47.01 | Simkin | and you really don't have the period problem with ip address? |
| 22:47.06 | thiago_home | no, not at all |
| 22:47.12 | Simkin | like rdp://192.168.1.3 it east the . before the 1.3 |
| 22:47.23 | Simkin | and it does this with any address i enter. |
| 22:47.26 | thiago_home | doesn't happen here |
| 22:47.29 | thiago_home | change your completion mode |
| 22:49.01 | Simkin | command mode vs task mode ? |
| 22:49.05 | Simkin | or do you mean something else? |
| 22:49.40 | thiago_home | o, right click the text area and try changing the Text Completion mode |
| 22:50.32 | Simkin | doesn't work in "task" mode. as there is not text area to right click in. |
| 22:50.40 | Simkin | but i can do it in command mode and it seems to do the trick |
| 22:50.42 | Simkin | so i'll do that |
| 22:50.47 | Simkin | thanks thiago, you've been most helpful |
| 22:50.52 | Simkin | i'll try out 1.3 of dbus too |
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| 22:50.59 | Simkin | it's hard masked though, so i better do it on a test machine. |
| 22:51.45 | thiago_home | you need to upgrade Qt too |
| 22:52.02 | Simkin | i'm using 4.6.2 |
| 22:52.10 | thiago_home | yes, you need to upgrade |
| 22:52.20 | Simkin | drat, it's not in the tree yet. |
| 22:52.23 | Simkin | ok i'll just wait i spose. |
| 22:52.45 | Simkin | i heard 4.7 is on it's way out? is that waht i'll need? |
| 22:53.42 | thiago_home | I think I put all fixes in 4.6.3 |
| 22:54.09 | Simkin | you're a qt developer? |
| 22:54.22 | Simkin | doyou work for tolltech/nokia? |
| 22:54.49 | thiago_home | yes and yes |
| 22:56.43 | Simkin | cool |
| 22:56.57 | Simkin | well i'll stop bugging you then, thanks thiago. |
| 22:57.04 | thiago_home | you're welcome |
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| 22:59.32 | night | hi, why can't i use export on desktop widgets on kde? |
| 22:59.42 | night | i mean, export before the path |
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| 23:29.18 | jillsmitt | hello everybody |
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| 23:30.06 | jillsmitt | when the windows resize will be fast? |
| 23:30.36 | jillsmitt | i mean what version of kde, now i have 4.4.4 |
| 23:32.26 | javier_ | jillsmitt: do you have an ati? |
| 23:33.08 | jillsmitt | javier_: no, i have nvidia n210 |
| 23:34.00 | javier_ | I see. Perhaps the slow resizing has something to do with the gfxcards driver you're using |
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