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01:20.36IzinucsTime tracker is a good additon to Kontact.. however in it's stand alone mode it remembers and reopens the last timer.. will it still do that and if so how?
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01:36.40egnswhere's the option for switching konqueror to webkit?
01:39.29Sho_if you have the webkit kpart installed, yes
01:39.41egnsah - ok
01:39.47Sho_you have to go to file associations in system settings and set the embedded viewer for text/html & co from khtml to webkit
01:40.05egnsok
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01:48.26Izinucswhat's a kde version of audacity?
01:48.33Izinucssomething simple and similar
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02:13.29Moulti've been looking at the 4.5 feature plan, http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.5_Feature_Plan and now that kde 4.5 beta1 is out i'd expect much more to be marked as DONE. I understand some actually are done but just out of date, but this does look a bit dodgy - are all of these features really expected to be finished by the final 4.5 release date?
02:19.29Sho_IMHO the feature plan stuff has never workd
02:19.31Sho_*worked
02:20.07Sho_in terms of people not keeping them updated
02:20.15Sho_some of the things listed as "IN PROGRESS" there I recognize as being DONE, though
02:20.36Sho_e.g. "Adds support for SHELL_SESSION_ID" in Konsole
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02:22.09Jucatothere was a call in the mailing list to update that page. if you look at the history, a few have indeed updated it, but not everything. so it's not really a reliable document for end users. it's more like a whiteboard checklist for developers (and those who will be writing up the release announcement)
02:22.55Sho_actually more or less the only reason developers care a little about that document these days is because after soft feature freeze you can only work on things that are already in the plan
02:23.44Sho_before that rule was drawn up, the plan document was largely ignored, so you had things in there that were years old and already done or already irrelevant and just got copies from release plan to plan as time went on
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05:48.31arkaschakwalletmanager supports multiple wallets, but how can I make use of those ? how can I tell an application which wallet to use ?!?
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06:30.58CorrineWhere's the best place to go for help with Amarok?
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06:34.22cb400for ask here
06:35.05CorrineWhat would cause Amarok to not be able to edit the tags for an album (the whole album, not just one song)
06:35.11Ganymedei'm using kde apps inside a gnome desktop environment...i set the cursor theme i want in gnome but how can i ask KDE apps to not set their own cursor theme when my cursor hovers into their window area?
06:35.13Corrineasks in both, just for the heck of it
06:35.40cb400fwhat version? .. maybe you don't have write permission for the files?
06:35.45Ganymede(should i provide more information? like version number?)
06:35.51CorrineNo, I checked that, I can write
06:36.08Corrineversion 2.3.0
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06:42.13deitarionDoes anyone have a solution for "After about a week, mouse clicks start getting ignored" aside from "Stop using KDE", "Downgrade to 4.3.x", or "Log out and back in"?
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06:44.20CorrineHmm, it can't seem to read them either, I can edit them with a different program
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06:57.44ryoohkihow do i remove widgets i don't want?  openoffice's quick start, gmix( the gnome mixer), and yum package update applet have  no visible means to remove permenently from appearing on start up on my panel.
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07:11.23Bernd_Bwhat i need to do to get a new clean .kde for an existing user, only delet old .kde directory?
07:12.11Ganymedekeep in mind that your emails are inside .kde if you use kmail
07:12.55Ganymedeand your korganizer events and everything...
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07:22.15Bernd_BGanymede: yes thx, problem is kde crashes allways! during start and i am not able to fix it
07:22.29Bernd_Bi saved the emails
07:23.21Bernd_Bthe applications just work fine if i am using them from another desktop environment
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07:23.52Bernd_Bis all i need to do moving or deleting .kde?
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07:24.31Ganymedeyeah, maybe you should just move .kde to like .kde-backup and log out and log in and see if that fixed it, and then start selectively moving things from your old .kde into your new one
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07:24.44Ganymedebut make sure you have a backup of the actual .kde directory and not just a symlink
07:25.04Ganymedeif i remember correctly, .kde used to be a symlink to .kde4 but i'm not sure if that's still the case
07:25.47Ganymedeif it still crashes with a fresh .kde, move your .kde-backup back to .kde because the problem is probably elsewhere
07:28.32Bernd_BGanymede: maybe made something wrong with with moving .kde and .kde4 before, but i have backup of emails
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07:36.28Bernd_BGanymede: hm, kde just crashing, other users working fine
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07:40.55GanymedeBernd_B, i don't know about that...but i got to go to sleep now, sorry
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08:09.09KottizenWhere can I find the default wallpapers in KDE 3.*?
08:09.19Moultcan somebody test what might be a bug in kmail? on the message list, right click on the column headers and add the "action item" column. now drag the column such that it's the first column. select a couple emails as action items, close kmail, restart. is it still the first column?
08:10.25MoultKottizen: kde 3?
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08:11.37Kottizenyes
08:12.30DDevineKottizen: The wallpapers aren't stored in a KDE directory, they are in a system directory IIRC>
08:13.07DDevinein /usr/share/wallpapers
08:13.08MoultKottizen: /usr/share/wallpapers perhaps?
08:13.13KottizenThanks.
08:14.00KottizenWhat I'm actually looking for is the wallpaper "We are gear", as were present in KDE 3.*. Someone who has it?
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08:14.30DDevineShould be on kdelook.org
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08:15.09KottizenThanks.
08:15.50KottizenNope.
08:16.04Moulthey i heard koffice 2.2 was released. how is it in terms of funtionality and whatever compared to openoffice these days? last time i tried it i couldn't even create a table easily in kword.
08:16.32KottizenI'll download Kubuntu 8.04, burn it and try to get it from there.
08:16.34KottizenThanks guys.
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08:17.11MoultKottizen: ouch, don't do that
08:17.38MoultKottizen: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=19064
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08:23.35Bernd_Bhow can i create new clean working .kde (from sekelton?)
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08:28.01MoultBernd_B: just move it. it will be created again.
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08:48.53ryoohkihow do i remove unwanted applets in my panel that have no obvious way to remove them permantly.  i have gmix( the gnome mixer), openoffice quick starter, and the apt-get package update applet that i want to remove
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08:50.32cb400fneither of those sounds like they have anything to do with kde
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08:53.30ryoohkicb400f: the applet dock( panel) has no apparent way to remove some applets.
08:54.07cb400fit's not the job of the panel or systray to remove that.. it can hide them.. but that's pointless
08:54.18cb400fyou need to tell those fuckers to stop auto-starting
08:54.29cb400fprolly via right click -> configure.. or so
08:54.43cb400for uninstall them.. or whatever
08:55.03ryoohkicb400f: sure, but how?  they aren't even in the running applet list
08:55.15cb400fthey are not kde applets
08:55.17ryoohkicb400f: you would think
08:55.26ryoohkicb400f: i see
08:55.35cb400fthey are independent standalone systray thingies
08:55.54ryoohkicb400f: at least you can right click openoffice and select quit but it just comes back
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08:56.16cb400fit would be very strange if it didn't have a setting to disable autostart
08:56.21ryoohkicb400f: the apt-get tool is the worst, there seems to be no way to remove it at all
08:56.30cb400f.. but strange things happen.. regardless.. kde != OOo
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08:56.49ryoohkicb400f: sure but there must be a startup list somewhere
08:56.59ryoohkicb400f: that kde uses when you login
08:57.00cb400fapt-get tools and gmixer also != kde
08:57.20ryoohkicb400f: yes, but kde starts them when i login
08:57.31cb400fask your distro
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08:57.50cb400fthey prolly have .desktop files in /usr/share/autostart/ or so
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08:58.44ryoohkicb400f: hmm never heard of that filesystem locvation
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09:03.20zeldhi all :)
09:04.00zeldkde 4.4.3 support devicekit or only hal???
09:04.35zeldsolid in particular i mean :)
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09:12.27Bernd_BMoult: just moved, but kde still crash during start
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09:28.45MoultBernd_B: get into a vt, and startx there. see what errors it gives.
09:28.54MoultBernd_B: does it work with a fresh user with identical perms?
09:30.18Bernd_BMoult: all other user work fine, i can create a new user too
09:30.45|tomiondrums|hey guys! i'm wondering which of the desktop effects has the windows being maximized when i hit them at the upper border of the screen. is there a chance to configure its behaviour?
09:30.57Bernd_Bother desktop environments work, applications itself too
09:31.44MoultBernd_B: ok. get into a vt, (ctrl-alt-f1), and startx there.
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09:49.43xexiojhi
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09:58.07KottalizerI would like to know why I have to press SHIFT + ALT + F12 each time I login to activate the effects. I didn't need that before I installed the drivers of the video card, but now I have to. Why?
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10:08.56KottalizerAnd another question, is "plasmoid" the same as a desktop widget?
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10:20.44TorchKottalizer: a plasmoid is a desktop widget, yes.
10:20.58KottalizerTorch: Thank you.
10:21.04KottalizerI'm trying to make my own. o_O
10:21.44TorchKottalizer: writing a plasmoid?
10:22.02KottalizerTorch: Found a tutorial, but when I'm trying to compile I get this: http://pastebin.ca/1873772
10:22.10KottalizerFollowing: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/GettingStarted#Abstract
10:22.29TorchKottalizer: install the kdelibs devel package
10:23.09KottalizerTorch: Ok.
10:23.12Kottalizer*Installing*
10:26.47KottalizerTorch: Got this error now: http://pastebin.ca/1873773
10:27.07KottalizerI'm using KDE 4.4.2.
10:27.25TorchKottalizer: that's the same as before.
10:27.47KottalizerTorch: Oh, you're right. The kdelibs-dev-package didn't change anything.
10:28.09KottalizerI'll restart my session - brb.
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10:29.16KottalizerHello again, let's see if it works now.
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10:29.31KottalizerNo, it doesn't.
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10:30.47KottalizerTorch: Do you have time to use VNC and check if you can solve it?
10:31.50TorchKottalizer: sorry, no.
10:32.16KottalizerTorch: Ok, thank you anyways. Is there anything else I might worth try to fix it?
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10:32.30TorchKottalizer: what does this command produce: "dpkg -S FindKDE4Internal.cmake"
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10:32.47Kottalizerkottizen@POLAPC-03:~/teeworlds-widget$ sudo dpkg -S FindKDE4Internal.cmake
10:32.47Kottalizerdpkg: *FindKDE4Internal.cmake* not found.
10:33.19TorchKottalizer: you're on kubuntu, if you have the kdelibs-devel package installed you'd have that file now. install the kdelibs devel package. make sure it's the right one.
10:33.28pinotreewhat if you install the kdelibs development package for kde4?
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10:33.51TorchKottalizer: try this "sudo apt-get install kdelibs5-dev"
10:34.10KottalizerTorch: Oh, I took just kdelibs-dev before.
10:34.15KottalizerLet's try with kdelibs5-dev.
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10:36.13Kottalizerpinotree: Thank you too, didn't see your sentence.
10:36.28KottalizerWorks now, thank you guys!
10:38.01Kottalizerhttp://img571.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plasmadesktopfo9245.jpg <-- Look how fancy! =]
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10:39.07TorchKottalizer: very nice ;-)
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10:44.33KottalizerIn the help-documents, there are a word-list. Why are the word "GNOME" in there?
10:44.57thiago_homewhy not?
10:45.15KottalizerI thought GNOME "konquered" with KDE?
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10:55.10|tomiondrums|which of the desktop effects has the windows being maximized when i hit them at the upper border of the screen.
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11:06.08KottalizerHello again. Is there someone out there who knows why I can't see any background-picture? I'm using the example code, with a little modification.
11:06.19Kottalizerhttp://pastebin.ca/1873781
11:06.41KottalizerLine 15
11:07.20KottalizerShould it be like that, if there'a a .svg-file in /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/oxygen/widgets/tee.svg ?
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11:15.30TorchKottalizer: try #plasma or #lkde-devel for questions like that
11:15.39KottalizerOkey.
11:15.57KottizenKottalizer: Good.
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11:32.43paul424uhh is hte newest beta "useable "  ?
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12:24.24gulashhey kde minimum requirements are 512 ram and some kinda of processor that i have but i have just 256 ram could i use kde like make lower graphics or something?
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12:31.47jcolbyI just compile KDE 4.5 beta 1 and now my plasma settings are not being saved.  I tried deleting my ~.kde/share/apps/plasma*, but everytime I log back in my settings are lost.  Any idea?
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12:32.17shepherdHey people, I'm trying to make my effects function as quickly as possible, which options should I choose? ( Referring to options in Desktop Effects: OpenGL mode, Texture Filder, Enable Direct Rendering, Use VSync )
12:32.25shepherdFilter *
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12:33.52annmajcolby: type kde4-config --localprefix in a terminal and hit return
12:33.58annmajcolby: paste what you get
12:36.16jcolbyjcolby@jcolby-lx ~ $ kde4-config --localprefix
12:36.17jcolby/home/jcolby/.kde/
12:38.21annmaso backup /home/jcolby/kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
12:38.28annmathen add an applet
12:38.43annmabackup == rename
12:38.52jcolbyannma: OK
12:39.03annmathen diff plasma-desktop-appletsrc and the backup
12:39.24annmaif nothing had been changed then you don't have enough permissions or something
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12:40.47devinecd #gpg
12:40.49devineoops
12:41.14annmadevine: use /join
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12:41.23devineannma: I know
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12:41.31devineI'm just tired
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12:42.13jcolbyannma: looks like there was a difference between the two files
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12:44.15shepherdIs there a hotkey to hide the panel(s) ? ( Or is his configurable ) ?
12:44.19shepherdthis*
12:44.39annmashepherd: click on the small logo on the right of the panel
12:44.48annmayou'll get some config settings
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12:45.15shepherdannma: Right, but I don't want to hide it all the time, but only when I need to ( running a WINE app for example is a common time )
12:46.56Moultcan anybody help translate exactly what this guy is requesting? http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#idea88121_page1 and http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#idea88090_page1
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12:49.58gulashhey kde minimum requirements are 512 ram and some kinda of processor that i have but i have just 256 ram could i use kde like make lower graphics or something?
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12:55.35InvaderZimWhy after my upgrade to Lucid, when I click on a HD disk Dolphin asks for a password? In 9.04 and 9.10 it didn't, it mounted automagically without tweaking fstab.
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12:57.15InvaderZimI realized policykit was gone, but when I try to install policykit-kde from kpackagekit, it tells me it needs to remove kubuntu-desktop ???
12:57.48InvaderZimSince this is #kde, it also tried to remove kde-workspace
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13:07.25RiotingPacifistkonqueror opens folders in new windows, even though it is set not to
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13:08.26pumphausInvaderZim: better ask the ubuntu guys... not really KDE's fault I guess
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13:16.22dajokerHas anybody seen how to cause arrows to show up within KDE as shown in the following link: http://i50.tinypic.com/9baqh5.jpg
13:17.34dajokerI want to know how to enable/disable the feature at will rather than accidentally.
13:17.58pinotreecurious... some desktop effect, perhaps?
13:20.41dajokerthat's what I'm assuming, yes.  Could be useful for presenting or just showing a section where you are currently, but I can't find it.
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13:21.19dajokerI haven't found anything searching around.
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13:22.14balazsbelahey all
13:22.57balazsbelaI have a problem, so I messed up my laptop keyboard by spilling liquid on it, I bought an external keyboard,it worked with kde but now it stopped working.
13:23.05balazsbelaIt works in gnome
13:23.07balazsbelaand under windows
13:23.32balazsbelanow I'm in gnome, the keyboard, (nor the external nor the laptop keyboard) doesn't work under kde
13:23.36balazsbelaI mean
13:23.40balazsbelaI can type anything
13:23.50balazsbelabut it doesn't appear only if I hold the keys for a long time
13:24.17balazsbelaI have kde 4.4
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13:26.00katodahi, how can I forbid KUniqueApplication to do a fork()?
13:26.13katodaI need to run a Google Profiler on Kopete and it forks :/
13:26.27pinotreepass --nofork to the first instance
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13:26.51balazsbelaany ideas ?
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13:27.15katodapinotree: thx!
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13:28.44balazsbelaI need help
13:28.45balazsbelaplz
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13:30.29icwienerbalazsbela: It is tradition to just ask your question instead of asking if you could ask your question. If someone knows to help you, that someone will speak up.
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13:30.55balazsbelaI already asked. My keyboard won't work in KDE
13:31.07balazsbelaI'm in gnome right now, keys don't get detected only if I hold them
13:31.17balazsbelathere could be some key stucked
13:31.21icwienerWhoops, sorry, it did sound like it. :)
13:31.31balazsbelaon the laptop keyboard. but it
13:31.36balazsbela's not stuck now.
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14:00.19kaiehello. what is the name of the tool to configure the fonts used by KDE for the menu bar etc.?
14:00.24kaiekde 4.4.3
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14:02.00tuxicklo
14:02.03kaiealternatively, what's the name of the "control center" executable? (I'm using gnome desktop, but need to tweak some settings for kde applications)
14:02.10Torchkaie: systemsettings
14:02.14Torchkaie: you'll find the fonts there
14:02.17tuxickwhere did that nice "clear input box" icon/button go?
14:02.31pumphauskaie: systemsettings?
14:02.57kaieTorch, pumphaus thanks a lot!
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14:26.23InvaderZimPlease HELP anyone? Fresh Lucid Install login fails. See here for details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-savage/+bug/584674
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14:27.08InvaderZimIt's KDM related
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14:29.57pinotreeInvaderZim: from the xorg logs, all it seems is a problem of the savage driver
14:30.30InvaderZimpinotree: but as I said, previous installations (9.10 and 9.04), and previous KDE's, it never occurred a problem with it
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14:30.55pinotreeprevious installation had an older xorg and savage driver than now?
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14:31.14pinotreetry using the vesa driver, instead of savage
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14:31.25InvaderZimI tried, the computer hangs forever in a black screen
14:31.41InvaderZimhangs before opening KDM
14:32.31pinotreehard to say anything without logs
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14:32.57InvaderZimpinotree: you mean logs from the vesa freeze?
14:33.01pinotreeyes
14:33.07InvaderZimhmmm will do
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15:13.42InvaderZimpinotree: check there
15:13.59InvaderZimpinotree: I've sent the log with the vesa driver, nothing interesting anyway
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15:24.17InvaderZimoh bugger
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15:33.48bertodseraHi all! I'm having a weird problem in compiling attica (KDE 4.4) as per http://pastebin.com/86mKDgd8 has anyone seen this before?
15:34.31pinotreeyes, use attica 0.1.3
15:35.38bertodserathanks!
15:36.21buscherwith kde-4.5b1 all my systray rightclick menus are gone, how can I fix it? (leftclick works fine)
15:36.25bertodserawait, you mean libattica?
15:36.29pinotreeyes
15:36.58bertodseragot to find it, I guess, gentoo only has 0.1.1
15:38.50alinbertodsera: what distro?
15:39.03pinotreegentoo, he said
15:39.45alinpinotree: not buscher gentoo is bertodsera
15:40.10pinotreeyou asked bertodsera :)
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15:41.10bertodseraalin: gentoo
15:41.13alinpinotree: stupud me
15:41.22alinbuscher: what distro?
15:41.28buscheralin: gentoo :)
15:41.45bertodseraa bad case of "waited too long before going emerge --update" and now I'm having a LOAD of fun
15:42.40alinbuscher: probably you have some old version of qtbusmenu or something like that
15:43.17buscherdev-libs/libdbusmenu-qt-0.3.2-r1
15:43.19buschersounds new
15:43.32buscherok there is a 0.3.3
15:45.03alinbuscher: you see git it a try and check out the new 4.4.81
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15:46.52buscherguess I need to restart/relogin to see the dbusmenu-qt update effect?
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15:48.44alinbuscher: yap
15:49.19buscherok, will reboot when the download is finished ;-)
15:50.42alinbuscher: let us know
15:51.36buscheralin: I will, but be patient, the download is big
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16:01.59n8w_ive updated to the latest kde but after the reboot kde loads up with this error: Executable: kdeinit4 PID: 1783 Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault)
16:01.59n8w_it also says smth about plasma workspace...
16:02.00n8w_anyone?
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16:14.05buscheralin: rightclick menus work again after 0.3.3 update, but with very strange sideeffects
16:14.21alinbuscher: like?
16:15.44buscherrighclickt to open a menu -> move mouse over a menu point with submenu -> move mouse away from menu -> click the last selected submenu appears
16:15.47buscher@ alin
16:16.10buscher-> click somewhere else -> the last selected submenu appears
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16:17.44alinbuscher: does that happen on kmail?
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16:17.53alinbuscher: or anything from kontact?
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16:18.09buscheruh, never used kmail systray icon, let me try
16:19.14buscherwere can I enable the systray icon in kmail?
16:19.47buscherah found it
16:21.05buscheralin: hm no, kmail menu behave completly different, but note that I am using kmail-4.4.3 because of the lack of kdepim-runtime in kde-4.4.80
16:21.49alinbuscher: I get something like you describe with 4.4.81 but do not worry you will get used fast
16:22.44buscherused?
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16:30.52alinbuscher: in a while you will not consider it a side effect
16:31.24buscherI consider it as a bug now
16:32.09buscherI have 4 systray items, with 3 different kind of menus, not so great :/
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16:35.52buscherwell at least I have menus ;-)
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16:48.51nordmoenDoes anyone have a tutorial for how to setup Kdevelop4?
16:50.24sreichno but what's difficult about it?
16:50.27sreichit requires no setup
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16:50.45sreichyou install it, if you want to e.g. open a kde project you click open project and open the cmake file
16:51.51nordmoenwell, I have made a new project from a cmake template and I can't execute it
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16:52.32sreichah
16:53.28InvaderZimPlease HELP anyone? Fresh Lucid Install login fails. See here for details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-savage/+bug/584674
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16:56.00sreichInvaderZim: #ubuntu ...
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16:56.32InvaderZimsreich: already asked
16:56.39InvaderZimsreich: since its KDM related
16:56.41InvaderZimasked here
16:59.08InvaderZimDoes KDE 4.4.2 network manager is working with hidden wlans?
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17:01.06nordmoensreich: do you have a guide for how to configure launches?
17:01.22sreichno, sorry
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17:10.11Absolute0Did the windows snap feature appear on kde before or after windows 7?
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17:12.46icwienerAbsolute0: After. It came with KDE 4.4, iirc.
17:14.04Absolute0oh cool
17:14.12Absolute0i wish gnome had the same feature
17:14.20Absolute0couldn't find anything on google
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17:15.55sreichAbsolute0: just don't use gnome and there's no problem ;-)
17:16.19Absolute0:)
17:16.50Absolute0kde is compiling in gentoo...
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17:17.01sreichyay :)
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17:17.22icwienercase closed
17:17.25icwiener:)
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17:19.25Absolute0Why has ubuntu chosen to use gnome by default?
17:20.29pinotreei guess #ubuntu is a better channel for this question
17:20.59Absolute0right
17:21.07Absolute0anyways i am gonna go
17:21.09Absolute0thanks
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17:43.55bubshaitwhat is the standard (i.e. most stable) frontend for network-manager? knetworkmanager or the plasma widget?
17:44.19sreichI think the plasma widget works well, from what I've heard
17:47.01bubshaitwill give it a shot
17:47.18bubshaitI had tried it a while back and it used to be really bad
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18:51.42ekkishei guys, I've locked the widgets on my task bar and now I don't know how to unlock them! help!
18:51.57shadeslayerekkis: just click on the cashew and on settings
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18:52.12ekkisbut there is no cashew.  it disappeared
18:52.31shadeslayerekkis: eep... what about the other one on the desktop?
18:52.42sreichor right click the desktop
18:53.02ekkisoh... I get it
18:53.17ekkisok, never mind.  I was looking for the cashew on the taskbar
18:53.25ekkisbut the desktop cashew is there
18:53.26ekkiscool
18:53.29ekkisthanks
18:53.39sreichyeah, the cashew on the panels are only visible when widgets are unlocked
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18:55.14SantyagoHello, kdelibs is broken ? (qt-4.7-b1) http://pastebin.com/nZgWa1Fq
18:55.59ekkisis there any way I can control the location of widgets in the taksbar?
18:56.13ekkisthey all align to the left and I'd like some things on the right
18:56.22sreichyou can insert spacers
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18:56.31sreichand with the panel settings window open you can click/drag them aroudn
18:56.35ekkisoh, I see
18:56.39ekkisthx
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18:58.50Cool_Chello! i recently upgraded to slackware 13.1 (kde 4.4.3). i have the taskbar at the top of the screen set to autohide. after the upgrade this panel seem to override any program settnigs to be "on top" - that is the panel activate even if it's covered by all fullscreen program
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18:59.35Cool_Cany way to fix this besides disabling the panel?
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19:03.44Santyagoanybody ?
19:04.01ekkisI used to have a widget to switch desktops.  I don't find the widget now... clue anyone?
19:04.47sreichekkis: you removed it?
19:05.21ekkissomething happen and my whole system lost a lot of its settings
19:05.29ekkisso I lost the widget and now I can't find it
19:05.43ekkisalso, my multiple desktops are not working
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19:10.50XGaryGIs there a KDE equivelant of seahorse? for handling SSH or PGP keys?
19:11.21Cool_Cyes, kgpg
19:11.44XGaryGThanks
19:11.49Cool_Cnot sure about ssh keys, but it does pgp anyway
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19:15.11ekkishei guys, there is a widget that shows my multiple desktops on the taskbar... I lost it and now I can't find it... is it a setting somewhere and not an actual widget?
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19:16.04arrenlexWhen the urgent hint is set, right now the taskbar button gets a little shinier and has a little border drawn around it. This is 100% impossible to notice. Where can I change the way urgent taskbar buttons look?
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19:16.42sreichI know, that's the one aspect I hate about Air
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19:16.51sreicharrenlex: either change the theme or modify the svgz files
19:17.53arrenlexsreich: I wasn't even on air... can you recommend a theme with more reasonable notifications?
19:18.09sreichreally? which one were you on?
19:18.15sreichno, I only use air
19:18.16arrenlexsreich: Aya
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19:19.41bluesceadaokular has a strange bug for me
19:19.49bluesceadaif i use the keys for "next page" "previous page"
19:20.05bluesceadathe next page always scrolls right first, then gets offset by 1/2 a page forward
19:20.40bluesceadaif i open a document and stay "next page" pressed until the whole document through, I can view it normally afterwards using the next page keys
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19:20.54bluesceadait just happens the first time a page was scrolled to by "next page"
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19:21.06bluesceadabut it's very stupid to have to go through the document first after having it opened......
19:21.13bluesceadaanyone else can confirm that bug (for pdf)
19:21.18bluesceadakde 4.4.3
19:21.42bluesceadaor maybe somebody knows about it being fixed in a more recent version / svn ?
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19:25.15ekkisanyone?  I can't figure out how to enable a widget to show my multiple desktops... I lost it and now I can't find it
19:25.44sreichekkis: just add a new "pager"
19:26.32ekkiswhat is a pager?  I found that suggestion through a google search but I don't know what it means
19:26.38ekkisis it a type of widget?
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19:26.52arrenlexekkis: Right-click on the panel, go to panel options -> add widgets. Search for 'pager'.
19:27.10arrenlexekkis: It'll have a square for each workspace. You can click the square to go to that workspace.
19:27.34bluesceadawait no, it scrolls 1/2 a page back.....
19:27.38sreichekkis: yes, it's a widget
19:27.47ekkisahh!!!
19:28.08ekkisI had seen it but didn't recognise it.  it's weird that it doesn't look the same once it's on the panel
19:28.11ekkisthanks!
19:28.18sreichwhat do you mean?
19:28.45sreichoh, you mean that thet icon completely doesn't represent what it looks like
19:28.48ekkisI mean that on the menu where I get to select this "pager" it looks one way and once it's been added to the panel it looks different
19:28.56ekkisit looks like 4 little windows
19:29.05sreichyeah, I think that's one of the things we really want to fix
19:29.16sreichi.e. take screenshots of each one and make them the icon for it
19:29.17arrenlexbluesceada: Doesn't happen for me... what zoom are you using for okular?
19:29.22bluesceada100%
19:29.32bluesceadait always scrolls correctly
19:29.39bluesceadathen it takes half a second and scrolls half a page back
19:29.55ekkisI wouldn't have spent 1/2 hr looking for it if I had recognised it.  also "pager" doesn't mean much.  if it were called "Multiple Desktops" or something like that I might still have found it
19:30.00bluesceadapdf file btw
19:30.09arrenlexbluesceada: are you clicking the 'next page' button in the toolbar or using some keyboard key?
19:30.10zekeooo KDE finally got sexy tooltips
19:30.16arrenlexbluesceada: One particular PDF file or all of them?
19:30.18bluesceadakeyboard key
19:30.23sreichekkis: yeah, pager is a weird  name for it
19:30.25bluesceadaevery pdf i've tried
19:30.31ekkisthanks so much
19:30.32bluesceadamaybe 20 ... always happening
19:30.33arrenlexbluesceada: What key? Page down?
19:30.48bluesceadano wait it also happens with the keys in the gui
19:31.06bluesceadano custom defined, using XF86Forward and XF86Backward
19:31.11sreichekkis: fyi, you could have searched the widgets for "virtual desktops" or just "desktops"
19:31.16bluesceadabut also happens with the gui keys...
19:31.26bluesceadaand i now page up/down is designed to do something else
19:31.27sreichthe search function looks for descriptions as well as names
19:31.31bluesceadas/now/know
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19:32.21bluesceadaarrenlex: it also happens sometimes when clicking the thumbnails
19:32.43arrenlexbluesceada: At 100%, are the pages bigger than the window?
19:33.44bluesceadastrange is that when having the page viewed and using previous page and then next page again, it won't happen
19:33.44bluesceadaany clue if this is a okular or something else bug ?
19:33.48bluesceadano
19:33.54bluesceadait first scrolls correctly
19:34.02bluesceadathen takes half a second to scroll 1/2 page back
19:34.08bluesceadaat any page size
19:34.47bluesceadanot happens when doing previous page, only next page
19:35.50bluesceadait's very annoying that it not happens always, then you go to the next page, think it's ok for half a second, and then it scrolls back 1/2 -.-
19:36.25bluesceadaanyway good that I still have kpdf....
19:37.21arrenlexbluesceada: Don't know what to tell you. Definitely doesn't happen here with okular 0.10.3.
19:37.33bluesceadawait
19:37.55bluesceadaarrenlex: i also have that okular version...
19:38.22bluesceadathen it must be a bug in some library or some very strange setting I cant find
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19:38.57bluesceadawhat is okular using to render pdfs? at least something worse than kpdf (there are also some not correct things when displaying some pdfs, but that is not too important)
19:39.18pinotreeit is the other way round
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19:39.52bluesceadahuh?
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19:40.09bluesceadaanyway, what does it use?
19:40.17arrenlexbluesceada: Looks like libpoppler, same thing everything uses.
19:40.27pinotreekpdf uses an old version of xpdf, okular uses current poppler
19:40.29bluesceadaok
19:40.34bluesceadahmm
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19:59.34OffToHadesEvening guys.
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20:00.44OffToHadesLong time no see.  I need to ask for some help.  I'm not working in linux, presently, but I'm trying to find out if one of KDE's programs, KSubtitle, had a Windows port or would work in a Windows environment.
20:00.50OffToHadesAnyone able to help please?
20:02.16shadeslayerOffToHades: theres #kde-windows
20:02.28OffToHadeso.O
20:02.38OffToHadesOk, I'll try there. Cheers
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20:07.33n8wguys how do i upgrade my kde to 4.4.1?
20:08.00n8wive tried upgradin to 4.4.3 through the kubuntu repo, but it didnt even load up....
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20:08.32n8wthen i tried kde 4.4.1 n eveyrthin was workin ok...but i can find the repo for it
20:08.43pinotreen8w: #kubuntu
20:10.48bluesceadan8w: that is probably a kubuntu problem then, maybe try #kubuntu or #ubuntu
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20:11.17n8wbluesceada:  im in those channels as well
20:11.28n8wbluesceada:  tryin:)
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20:26.00miasmacan anyone tell me wtf is wrong with kde apps and why they leak so much memory? Even closing them won't help.. http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6283/1500used.png
20:28.21roerichif core kde libs have mem leaks then you can't do much about it besided using a debug build and measure stuff with valgrind *cover&duck*
20:28.33miasmai see
20:28.46miasmawhy doesn't konqueror terminate itself, then?
20:29.00roerichdunno i'm just a user
20:33.32cb400fmiasma: maybe you have konq configured to always have an instance loaded?
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20:34.14miasmacb400f: does it leave the last instance running then?
20:34.20miasmawith hundreds of tabs?
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20:36.40do0obHow good is the GMA950 in kde4, can it use any of the effects?
20:36.57miasmacb400f: I thought it preloads an empty konqueror instance
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20:38.04miasmacb400f: and I've set it to only preload 1 instance. I seem to have 3 instances + several nspluginviewers for flash running even though all windows all closed
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20:51.45do0obGMA950 anyone?
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21:17.17sredna2how can i change the plasma theme???
21:17.38sredna2the setting has dissapeared, or i fogot where it is hidden :o
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21:21.09sredna2i found it, it was moved
21:21.14sredna2:\
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21:35.49WalzmynIs there a way to make an application not show up on the task bar?
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21:39.38paul424which package contains the plasma desktop ?
21:40.48pinotreepaul424: we ship it in the source kdebase-workspace
21:41.04paul424ok
21:41.18paul424also, where to get LibAttic ?
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21:42.47Shirakawasunawhat is libattic, paul424?
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21:44.11paul424something requiered by kdelibs .....
21:44.53Shirakawasunaarchlinux packages don't have capital letter, paul424....
21:44.55Shirakawasuna*letters
21:45.00Shirakawasunaplease paste the exact name ;)
21:45.41Shirakawasunaohhhhhh
21:45.47Shirakawasunasorry, I thought I was in a different channel :)
21:46.03Shirakawasunaask in your distribution's channel, paul424, e.g. #kubuntu #opensuse etc
21:46.22paul424ok
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21:47.03InvaderZimWith a 2 gb ram system, do we still need a swap partition for a desktop?
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21:52.11miasmaInvaderZim: it depends on what you do
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21:52.39InvaderZimmore cpu intensive will probably be watching fullscreen videos... maybe a video encoding for a dvd, but thats it
21:52.49miasmaif you run out of memory, the system will grind to a halt
21:53.03miasmawell, I previously mentioned that my system leaks memory
21:53.07InvaderZimhmmm
21:53.20InvaderZimmiasma? is that from IY?
21:53.29miasmaif you use languages like C/C++, your programs will typically leak memory unless you have superhuman coding skills
21:53.37miasmaIY?
21:54.34miasmathe C/C++ people believe that the extra 15% of speed you get will benefit the users more than the fact that their buggy applications need to be restarted every day
21:55.00shadyabhiI did a fresh install (Arch x86_64) today. Installed following packages (http://pastebin.com/yG7dcNDB) . Now, I have made sure the I have enabled PREVIEW option in DOLPHIN. But, I am unable to generate Thumbnails of Video, Images, .ui files, PDF etc etc.. Pls help
21:56.30shadyabhiAnyone having idea?
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21:57.43AluminInvaderZim: I'm running a KDE 4.2.3-based system with 2GB of RAM and no swap, works fine for me
21:57.44sreichmiasma: if your system runs out of memory the offending process will be killed
21:58.02Aluminbeen at it for a couple of years now
21:58.22Aluminnow, I tried to run KDE4 at home on a box with 1GB of RAM without swap...world of pain
21:58.37Alumineven with swap it's ... well, maybe just one city of pain
21:58.39Alumin:)
21:59.09InvaderZimAlumin: is it a powerful system?
21:59.17Aluminhaha not exactly :)
21:59.24InvaderZimhmm
21:59.27Aluminneither is this one, but it does have 2GB
21:59.31InvaderZimwell
21:59.40miasmasreich: I thought the kernel chooses a process semi-randomly
21:59.46InvaderZimit had modest performance with vesa drivers on a live cd
22:00.10InvaderZimso it seems its gonna be ok
22:00.32InvaderZimI've never seen my swap being used here
22:00.33InvaderZimnever
22:00.36miasmaAlumin: your uptime with the kde 4.2.3 based system probably isn't couple of years :P
22:00.37Aluminyeah, the 1GB one was a dinky $50 thing I got at a discount electronics place
22:00.39InvaderZimseems like a waste of 1 gb
22:00.59Aluminmiasma: of course not, there's kernel updates fairly often
22:01.45miasmaAlumin: I typically boot once in a month and I can tell you that most modern desktop environments aren't designed for that use case. the applications leaks tons of memory
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22:02.08Alumindepends on the app I guess
22:02.21miasmafor example logging out of kde after 2 weeks of use might take 10..15 minutes
22:02.28miasmain a quad-core system
22:02.33miasmawith 8GB of ram
22:02.41Alumin*shrug*
22:03.01Aluminit's a desktop system, its uptime is not a point of pride with me
22:03.03miasmait helps a bit if you manually kill some kde processes
22:03.17miasmaI get even higher uptime on my lappy because of hibernation
22:03.34Alumincome to think of it, it isn't with my servers either
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22:04.20Aluminin any case, I was answering the original question as I understood it, which was "is it in any way reasonable to think I might be able to run entirely without swap"
22:04.27Aluminto which my answer is clearly "yes"
22:04.59Aluminas long as you have at least 2GB :)
22:05.14Aluminif this were my personal machine I'd probably put 4 and really solve the problem
22:06.19sreichmiasma: no, there's a specific function that calculates and weighs the process and picks the best one
22:06.28sreichoomkiller it is called, iirc
22:06.39icwienerYep it is.
22:06.52icwienerAld it chooses X way too often. :)
22:08.05Aluminhaha
22:08.10Aluminindeed
22:08.15Aluminthat, and mysql
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22:09.52InvaderZimAlumin: thats it i'm not gonna create a swap
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22:10.19InvaderZimAlumin: since 11 years ago when I started with linux I've always followed by the book and not once have seen it being useful
22:10.26AluminInvaderZim: what I would do is just don't create a swap _partition_ ... there's no value in that anyway, regardless of whether you need swap or not
22:10.43Aluminjust make a couple of swap files and be ready to turn them on if necessary, you can always delete them later
22:11.06InvaderZimAlumin: in fact, I'm running it on a pretty low end system with only 256mb of ram... it hangs all the time, but swap is still almost not used... maybe 20 megs mostly (of a 1 gig swapspace), and the system keeps hanging
22:11.42Aluminit might be spiraling into a crash before it can use any more of the swap
22:12.11InvaderZimis all the ram that matters... ram is all filled up at boot
22:12.14AluminI'd be wary of turning off swap if you only have 256 MB
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22:12.27InvaderZimno no, the question was for a recent netbook with 2gigs
22:12.36Aluminoh I see
22:12.51Aluminyeah I'd definitely give it a go, I have a netbook with 1.5GB, also no swap
22:12.52InvaderZimto turn on swap on a file, dd and swapon /path/to/file right?
22:13.09Aluminyou gotta mkswap it after you dd it but yeah
22:13.14InvaderZimohhhhhhhhhhh yes
22:13.23InvaderZimhehehe i wasnt remembering
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22:14.36Aluminhttp://pastebin.ca/1874054
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22:15.18Aluminif you decide you don't need the swap, you can add "noauto" to the options in fstab for it
22:15.20magyarhi is there a way to Enable the ctrl-alt-backspace in kde 4.4?
22:15.39Aluminthat way if you ever have an "oh crap" moment it'll still be in fstab and you can do a quick "swapon -a" :)
22:18.11InvaderZimAlumin: hehehe
22:18.43Aluminodds are you won't catch it fast enough, but you never know :)
22:19.05InvaderZimdid you know this by memory? 1048576
22:19.30InvaderZimpower of 8?
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22:20.02Aluminyeah, that particular one I have memorized
22:20.20InvaderZimhaha
22:20.30Aluminbut no, I can't generally multiply four-digit numbers in my head lol
22:20.38InvaderZimnot that much huh hehe
22:21.15Aluminyou know you're really into computers when you start thinking of 128, 256, 512, 1024 etc as "round numbers"
22:21.51sreichyeah, they feel nice, don't they?
22:21.56sreichsomething soothing about it
22:22.50Aluminthat's odd
22:22.59Aluminthose last two ping timeouts were both 265 seconds
22:23.16Aluminand both nicks that ended with an underscore
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22:23.41sreichnot really that odd
22:24.01sreichthe range seems to be 248-276
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22:26.52mck182can KOrganizer sync with Google Calendar?
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22:34.11InvaderZimPlease HELP anyone? Fresh Lucid Install login fails at KDM. See here for details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-savage/+bug/584674
22:35.42pinotreeInvaderZim: please stop asking again and again
22:36.01InvaderZimpinotree: ok sorry
22:36.10InvaderZimdid you read the vesa log?
22:37.18pinotreenothing weird there
22:37.38pinotreei guess you really should ask in #kubuntu or #ubuntu, so far there's no kde issue
22:37.46InvaderZimI'm asking there too
22:38.12InvaderZimpeople are clueless... xorg guys said its unrelated since it works with xdm and startx
22:38.17InvaderZimunrelated to xorg
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22:48.51n8whow can i downgrade kopete?
22:49.04n8wive upgraded my kde to 4.4.2 n since then kopete wont even start...it crashes with Executable: kopete PID: 16144 Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault)
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23:17.29ShatteredvisionHi I'm trying to see if anyone could help me with a little problem. For some reason a lot of settings do not stay when I log out of KDE
23:18.02Shatteredvisionfor example I change my GTK theme so my GTK apps look like the QT ones but have to re change this everytime I log in
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23:18.44Shatteredvisionalso I use a dual monitor setup but have to change the display everytime I log in or the monitors mirror each other.
23:19.16ShatteredvisionAnyone have any ideas on how I could make these chnages permament so I don't have to change them every time I log in?
23:19.29ShatteredvisionBTW I use Arch linux if that helps
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23:21.33redsteakrawanyone running the kde-4.5  beta?
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23:25.28chomwittwhen i insert a cdrom in debian sqeeze, kde 4.4.3 dolphin shows always as contents some other files .
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23:44.42chomwittIn my debian squeeze , kde 4.3.4 , i have problems mounting the dvd. i always see in /mnt/cdrom some old files of mine. http://debian.pastebin.com/MaAEPC1v
23:47.24icwienerchomwitt: Looks like it is mounted to /media/cdrom0 ?
23:48.34icwienerI mean, not currently ... Currently is does not seem to be mounted. But if, then it should be unter /media.
23:53.10paul424could somone englighten me whether should I run all this instrucitons as kdevel user ? http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Generic#kdelibs
23:53.55Shatteredvisionis there a way I can set my computer to start a dual monitor setup when kdm starts? every time I log out I have to reset my display settings to get my monitor setup. Also for some reason my GTK theme needs to be reset everytime I log in
23:53.59sreichpaul424: it's a development question, ask in #kde-devel
23:54.33sreichShatteredvision: nothing to do with kdm, but X
23:54.43sreichif anything, just define it in your xorg.conf I guess
23:55.19ShatteredvisionOh, my Xorg.conf is auto generated. Cant start x when i try to generate my own. that was the first thing I thought of
23:55.35chomwitticwiener: i tried a data disk and not seem ok. thanks.
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23:56.46GUILLOThi...
23:56.53GUILLOTi have a question
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23:57.13GUILLOTwhere the kde store the file of shortcuts for a user
23:57.14GUILLOT???

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