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| 00:22.23 | eljefe_ | Is there any way to edit/rearrange the System Settings icons, other than editing the source of the systemsettings binary? I would be interested in adding links to executables as well, any ideas? |
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| 00:40.09 | jsfb | hey all is .ICEauthority a KDE thing or a GNOME thing? |
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| 01:41.21 | Gokee2 | Hello all, I would like to print rendered html to pdf files from the command line. Is there any way to hook khtml up to whatever print system kde is using to output a pdf from the command line? Konqueror will output a nice PDF if I click around and through the print widget but I would like a way to do it all from the command line. |
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| 01:42.15 | Gokee2 | (O and I use kde-4) |
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| 02:32.08 | octo_ | anyone know if there is something wrong with kopet on the yahoo servers where you can see others online, others can see you online, others can type to you, but they do not recieve any of your messages? |
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| 02:51.13 | magyar | hi, how do i do "printscreen" in kde 4.3? |
| 02:51.27 | phoenix__ | press the printscreen button |
| 02:53.10 | phoenix__ | anyone there |
| 02:56.08 | magyar | phoenix__: that doesnt work |
| 02:56.58 | phoenix__ | magyar: use ksnapshot |
| 02:57.32 | magyar | how can i setup the printscreen to work? |
| 02:57.48 | phoenix__ | magyar: wait i will tell you |
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| 03:01.12 | phoenix__ | magyar: kmenu->applications->settings->system settings->input actions. in that minus the preset actions check whether print screen is ticked |
| 03:01.27 | magyar | phoenix__: got it, thank you |
| 03:04.08 | magyar | hmm, dont have "preset actions" anywhere there |
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| 03:09.53 | phoenix__ | magyar: right click on the empty space below list and select new group and name it preset actions |
| 03:11.03 | magyar | phoenix__: k |
| 03:11.47 | phoenix__ | magyar: right click the preset actions->new->global shortcuts->command/url |
| 03:12.31 | magyar | done |
| 03:12.34 | phoenix__ | magyar: name it as printscreen |
| 03:12.44 | magyar | did |
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| 03:13.44 | markNix | hello guys |
| 03:14.03 | markNix | how do I change the panel style in kde 4.4.1? |
| 03:14.27 | phoenix__ | click it and on the right you can see the trigger tab, go there and click the none button and press the printscreen key |
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| 03:15.24 | phoenix__ | magyar: click it and on the right you can see the trigger tab, go there and click the none button and press the printscreen key |
| 03:15.25 | markNix | hm? |
| 03:15.43 | magyar | phoenix__: done |
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| 03:17.03 | phoenix__ | select the action tab, in that command/url type ksnapshot |
| 03:17.27 | phoenix__ | magyar: select the action tab, in that command/url type ksnapshot |
| 03:18.14 | phoenix__ | magyar: after that press apply button. you are done |
| 03:18.14 | markNix | how do I change the panel style in kde 4.4.1? |
| 03:18.56 | magyar | phoenix__: got it, thanks again |
| 03:19.13 | phoenix__ | magyar: is it working |
| 03:19.28 | magyar | phoenix__: yes it does |
| 03:20.02 | phoenix__ | magyar: good enjoy |
| 03:20.08 | markNix | how do I change the panel style in kde 4.4.1? |
| 03:20.15 | markNix | I mean the theme there? |
| 03:21.21 | phoenix__ | markNix: wait |
| 03:23.32 | phoenix__ | markNix: kmenu->applications->settings->system settings->appearence-. there select the workspace tab and select the preferred theme and apply |
| 03:24.16 | markNix | wat |
| 03:24.18 | markNix | wasnt easier |
| 03:24.24 | markNix | I mean I remember only right clicking somewhere |
| 03:24.40 | phoenix__ | markNix: that has changed |
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| 03:25.24 | markNix | I mean the bot |
| 03:25.27 | markNix | the taskbar style |
| 03:25.53 | markNix | ohh |
| 03:25.54 | markNix | I get it |
| 03:25.57 | markNix | thanks phoenix__ |
| 03:26.16 | phoenix__ | markNix: enjoy |
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| 04:15.41 | cleary | osubuck: systemsettings -> keyboard and mouse -> mouse -> advanced tab |
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| 04:17.46 | osubuck | nope i found it, thanks |
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| 09:02.55 | Guest85966 | does konqueror work with java in a 64 bit distro? I'm trying to get it to work in the fedora kde spin. |
| 09:04.17 | cb400f | I don't think it works with java regardless of arch frankly |
| 09:05.17 | Guest85966 | cb400f: ?? |
| 09:05.36 | cb400f | no java in konq in kde4 series afaik |
| 09:06.14 | cb400f | unless it was fixed for 4.4 and I didn't hear about it |
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| 09:06.46 | Guest85966 | that's.... a bit of an oversight, isn't it? |
| 09:06.51 | Guest85966 | the option is listed in settings. |
| 09:08.54 | cb400f | sure.. but I'm yet to hear of anyone having it working |
| 09:09.02 | cb400f | (in kde4) |
| 09:09.41 | Guest85966 | do you know where I could read more about the status of it? |
| 09:09.51 | Guest85966 | my searches in google aren't helping much |
| 09:09.53 | cb400f | guess it's not a priority for them.. don't think other browsers care much either.. e.g. opera which is my primary browser has quite flaky java support |
| 09:09.59 | cb400f | .. or maybe it's just a nightmare to maintain |
| 09:10.48 | cb400f | ask in #konqueror or #khtml I guess.. but don't bash the people.. the |
| 09:11.11 | Guest85966 | Hi there :) |
| 09:11.24 | Guest85966 | I'm trying to get java to work in konqueror for facebook |
| 09:11.35 | Guest85966 | I just installed the fedora linux kde spin! |
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| 09:11.52 | Guest85966 | I'm very excited about getting things functional so I can play with linux |
| 09:11.59 | Guest85966 | could someone offer a hand getting java to work? |
| 09:12.01 | cb400f | wrong window :-) |
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| 09:12.10 | cb400f | or tab or whatever |
| 09:12.16 | Guest85966 | damnit. |
| 09:12.28 | cb400f | but other browsers exist for linux than konq you know |
| 09:12.29 | Guest85966 | :# |
| 09:12.36 | Guest85966 | I installed fedora |
| 09:12.39 | Guest85966 | but it looks ass. |
| 09:12.45 | cb400f | .. I personally use firefox for my java needs |
| 09:12.50 | enkidu | for now you should stick to Opera or firefox |
| 09:13.21 | enkidu | Konq need more work (and there is problem, as there is not enouugh devs) |
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| 09:13.58 | Guest85966 | sorry, not fedora... firefox |
| 09:14.04 | Guest85966 | I installed firefox but it looks like ass. |
| 09:14.30 | Guest85966 | the reason to use kde over gnome is because it's prettier... |
| 09:14.33 | cb400f | then make it purrtier |
| 09:14.43 | Guest85966 | if I have to use something that doesn't match the desktop, doesn't it detract from that? |
| 09:15.26 | enkidu | Guest85966: install some skin |
| 09:15.42 | cb400f | there are pleny of them |
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| 09:16.09 | cb400f | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+(Firefox+Theme)?content=117962 |
| 09:16.28 | cb400f | .. or use opensuse which has quite good kde integration for FF :-) |
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| 09:17.26 | cb400f | ponders if java works in rekonq |
| 09:17.35 | Guest85966 | it works well in firefox. |
| 09:17.36 | cb400f | .. or even arora |
| 09:17.46 | enkidu | rather wont work, os in arora I cant get it to work |
| 09:18.13 | cb400f | but anyway.. firefox is the mostly used browser.. supported by google and facebook and all the other web 2 dot oh stuff |
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| 09:18.38 | enkidu | and firefox is the most bloated browser |
| 09:19.04 | cb400f | yeah it sucks.. I don't use it as my primary browser :-) |
| 09:19.27 | enkidu | I have arora as primary one, but I hope, Konq will return ;) |
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| 09:19.32 | cb400f | but if you want one single browser that just works with any site 99% of the time FF is your only option |
| 09:19.45 | enkidu | cb400f: there is opera ;) |
| 09:20.04 | cb400f | I use that and I have trouble sometimes |
| 09:20.25 | cb400f | ... and everytime I have a guest they _always_ go directly to some site that screws up.. dunno how they do it |
| 09:20.54 | enkidu | yeah, in fancy-shmancy sites, that webdev made using FF-speciific JS methods |
| 09:20.59 | cb400f | but looking forward to seing the kde integration in opera 10.5 |
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| 09:21.29 | cb400f | yeah.. like faceb0rk, wordpress admin, gmail etc. |
| 09:21.42 | cb400f | actually.. does gmail support opera? .. now I have doubts |
| 09:21.59 | morkser | cb400f: yes, gmail works in opera |
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| 09:22.23 | enkidu | most annoying are online-banking sites |
| 09:22.45 | cb400f | Guest85966: you could also use chromium.. that looks out of place everywhere, so... :-) |
| 09:22.51 | enkidu | I have account in Millennium, when I try accessing it with konq I get "unsupported browser" |
| 09:22.53 | cb400f | .. except maybe win XP |
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| 09:23.11 | Guest85966 | hmm... |
| 09:23.12 | enkidu | but changing UA string makes it work ~~ |
| 09:23.25 | Guest85966 | the oxygen theme requires firefox 3.6 |
| 09:23.34 | Guest85966 | I guess I have to figure out how to update to it. |
| 09:23.37 | cb400f | typical.. nasty bastard webdevs |
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| 09:24.32 | enkidu | most webdevs should be burned then drowned then chopped... or killed in any different violent combination |
| 09:24.48 | cb400f | Guest85966: not sure that chromium have working java either though :-) |
| 09:25.11 | cb400f | just an example that browsers don't have to integrate well with the desktop to get a lot of hype |
| 09:25.35 | Guest85966 | is coloured unimpressed so far |
| 09:26.10 | cb400f | colours Guest85966 in the google logo colours |
| 09:26.45 | Guest85966 | maybe next year will be the year of the linux desktop? |
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| 09:30.37 | cb400f | Guest85966: what OS did you use before and what browser? |
| 09:31.07 | avenir | yea, java works in google chrome |
| 09:31.24 | cb400f | ok |
| 09:31.38 | alisonken1noc | been the year of the linux desktop for me for 10 years in slackware |
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| 09:32.40 | Guest85966 | I am a linux admin by trade |
| 09:32.43 | Guest85966 | for over 10 years |
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| 09:32.59 | Guest85966 | I use osx, windows (all versions including servers), solaris, openbsd, etc. |
| 09:33.05 | Guest85966 | just not a linux desktop. |
| 09:33.14 | Guest85966 | (linux is my preferred server environment) |
| 09:33.32 | Guest85966 | my girlfriend saw some videos of kde and wanted to try it on her laptop |
| 09:33.37 | Guest85966 | so, I'm doing what I can... |
| 09:33.40 | cb400f | yeah.. but it's hard to get a working linux desktop if you refuse to use the tools that work |
| 09:33.41 | Guest85966 | but it's a little disappointing. |
| 09:33.58 | Guest85966 | installing flash... fail |
| 09:34.04 | Guest85966 | packagekit crashes... fail |
| 09:34.11 | cb400f | well.. you've installed fedora |
| 09:34.14 | Guest85966 | getting java in the browser... fail |
| 09:34.41 | cb400f | not a kde centric distro.. bleeding edge stuff for enthusiasts... not proprietary-software friendly either |
| 09:34.49 | cb400f | it's you that's doing it wrong |
| 09:34.56 | Guest85966 | :) |
| 09:35.02 | Guest85966 | I made fedora wrong? |
| 09:35.12 | cb400f | you chose the wrong distro for your purpose |
| 09:35.53 | cb400f | you want easy flash, sun java and other non-free stuff.. try opensuse, ubuntu or mandriva or other more "consumer" oriented distros |
| 09:36.07 | cb400f | fedora is pretty much a distro for enthusiasts |
| 09:36.09 | Guest85966 | ahh... |
| 09:36.15 | Guest85966 | the firefox window will not close now |
| 09:36.17 | cb400f | .. and you don't seem very enthusiastic :-) |
| 09:36.20 | Guest85966 | how do I force kill? |
| 09:36.41 | cb400f | press ctrl+esc -> search for firefox and kill it.. for example |
| 09:36.57 | cb400f | .. or just 'killall firefox' in terminal |
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| 09:37.12 | mzanetti | better: ctrl+atl+esc and klick on it :) |
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| 09:37.32 | Guest85966 | is it normal for mysqld to be running in a desktop distro? |
| 09:37.40 | cb400f | you have kde4.4? |
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| 09:37.52 | Guest85966 | whatever comes with fedora |
| 09:38.03 | Guest85966 | which is 4.3.2 + patches, if I'm not mistaken |
| 09:38.09 | cb400f | 4.3 comes with it.. but it might have shipped 4.4 as an update |
| 09:38.11 | cb400f | hm |
| 09:38.21 | Guest85966 | I take that back |
| 09:38.24 | cb400f | well.. akonadi (kde pim framework stuff) uses mysql |
| 09:38.28 | Guest85966 | rpm -qa | grep kde says I'm using 4.4.0 |
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| 09:39.32 | Guest85966 | it was 4.3.2 at install |
| 09:39.38 | Guest85966 | 4.4.0 after updates |
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| 09:41.14 | cb400f | that's why you have mysql then.. in 4.4 akonadi is used by some of the kdepim apps |
| 09:41.19 | cb400f | rest should follow in 4.5 |
| 09:42.48 | Guest85966 | that seems a little excessive |
| 09:42.54 | Guest85966 | why not sqlite or something? |
| 09:43.07 | cb400f | ask them :-) |
| 09:43.17 | enkidu | sqlite is not as good as mysql-embedded |
| 09:43.24 | cb400f | but e.g. amarok went from sqlite to mysql-embedded |
| 09:43.26 | enkidu | I have tried it in my own project |
| 09:43.37 | cb400f | think generally sqlite performs a lot worse |
| 09:43.52 | enkidu | mysql keeps tables in memory cache, so is a lot faster |
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| 09:43.56 | cb400f | remembers when opensuse used sqlite for the package manager cache.. ewwww |
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| 09:45.50 | enkidu | and mysql offers more thingies, that may make your life easier |
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| 09:46.51 | Guest85966 | how do I change the default web browser in the kde menu? |
| 09:47.06 | enkidu | systemsettings I think |
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| 09:47.42 | lambert | hey how do I access the plasma channel? |
| 09:48.08 | enkidu | btw guys, what do you think about name "semaphore" for instant messenger? |
| 09:48.12 | zegenie | type "/join #plasma" |
| 09:48.16 | zegenie | lambert: ^ |
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| 09:48.31 | lambert | thanks |
| 09:50.02 | rdale | i'd spell semaphore as semafor because english spelling is ugly |
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| 09:50.28 | Guest85966 | mmm... semafour. |
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| 09:51.13 | enkidu | spelling doesnt matter |
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| 09:51.41 | enkidu | as most potential users will not spell it properly |
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| 09:52.30 | enkidu | everything I need to do is nice plugin inteface |
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| 09:53.02 | Guest85966 | I changed my default we browser to firefox... but konqueror is still showing in the kde menu... |
| 09:53.37 | pinotree | the kde menu shows the installed applications |
| 09:54.57 | Guest85966 | sorry, the default window is "favorites" when I click on the button |
| 09:55.08 | Guest85966 | how do I change the favorites, if not by changing the default application? |
| 09:55.14 | avenir | Guest85966: right-click on konqueror and 'remove from favourites' |
| 09:55.39 | pinotree | the "favourites" panel is not a view of the default applications |
| 09:55.41 | avenir | Guest85966: then go to applications - internet - web browser, right click firefox and 'add to favourites' |
| 09:55.45 | Guest85966 | ahh |
| 09:56.14 | Guest85966 | one might have expected that changing the default application would have done that for me, given that the title was "web browser" |
| 09:56.29 | Guest85966 | thank you, that worked. |
| 09:56.53 | pinotree | "favourite" != "default" |
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| 09:58.05 | zegenie | pinotree: if he's coming from a windows desktop, I definately see why he would be confused |
| 09:58.26 | Guest85966 | I use osx and win7 daily |
| 09:58.28 | zegenie | in win xp/vista/7, the top two shortcuts are called "web browser" and "email client", and will be links to the default web browser/email client |
| 09:58.42 | zegenie | so changing the default web browser/email client will switch those shortcuts |
| 09:59.03 | zegenie | since the shortcuts in kde has the same description ("web browser"), I can see why the confusion would arise |
| 09:59.16 | zegenie | even though the menus behave differently |
| 09:59.37 | Guest85966 | now... I wonder if I can get compositing to work |
| 10:01.05 | Guest85966 | "Compositing is temporarily disabled" is the only feedback I currently have. |
| 10:03.46 | zegenie | Guest85966: I get that problem often when I'm disconnecting my laptop from the power supply |
| 10:03.57 | zegenie | it won't turn itself back on until I've restarted |
| 10:04.03 | zegenie | something with the nvidia drivers :/ |
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| 10:13.13 | Guest85966 | This laptop has an Intel gm45 chipset |
| 10:13.17 | Guest85966 | will compositing work with it? |
| 10:13.40 | Guest85966 | .... is compositing a word? :P |
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| 10:25.22 | Guest85966 | how does one enable the desktop cube effect? |
| 10:25.28 | Guest85966 | it's grey for me |
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| 10:39.43 | muh2000 | gwenview scared me today. |
| 10:40.27 | muh2000 | it put up a picture in the upright position without me doing anything. |
| 10:40.53 | avenir | muh2000: probably from exif data |
| 10:41.14 | cb400f | Guest85966: gfxcard and driver? |
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| 10:41.27 | cb400f | oh.. intel.. should just work |
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| 10:42.18 | cb400f | I have intel 945 myself.. works fine |
| 10:42.31 | cb400f | .. a lot better than nvidia a lot of the time :-( |
| 10:44.53 | muh2000 | avenir: can i read the exif data with gwenview? |
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| 10:48.16 | avenir | muh2000: i don't see such an option there. maybe with some plugins.. |
| 10:48.42 | muh2000 | avenir: it has plugins? |
| 10:49.21 | cb400f | kipiplugins |
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| 10:49.46 | muh2000 | those are installed :/ |
| 10:49.53 | cb400f | gives you a panel on the left side with some basic editing options, metadata info and file management |
| 10:50.18 | cb400f | try pressing F11 |
| 10:50.43 | avenir | muh2000: you don't want to use digikam? |
| 10:51.47 | muh2000 | cb400f: ah yes the little strap on the side :) |
| 10:52.11 | muh2000 | avenir: i liked gwenview :) |
| 10:52.23 | muh2000 | what can digikam do better? |
| 10:52.35 | avenir | digikam can show exif data for sure |
| 10:52.36 | muh2000 | didnt it index all my pictures etc? |
| 10:53.01 | avenir | index? i don't think so |
| 10:53.01 | cb400f | gwenview is a viewer.. digikam is a photo management thingy |
| 10:53.15 | cb400f | completely different purposes |
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| 10:54.05 | muh2000 | ^^ i only need a file manager to manage my pics :) gwenviewer to brows them at full size... and F11 -> more shows exif data as well :) thnx for telling me :) |
| 10:54.28 | avenir | oh (-: |
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| 11:32.07 | meyerm | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.36 | cb400f | dunno.. but try if fish:/ works better |
| 11:33.20 | meyerm | cb400f: fish does not have the problem with "Unknown Host", but fails using my certificates which are needed to connect. |
| 11:34.01 | cb400f | sounds like a bug then |
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| 11:34.47 | meyerm | cb400f: *sigh*, ok, thank you. I'll file one on b.k.o. |
| 11:35.26 | GNU\colossus | meyerm: with KDE 4.4, the kio-subsystems relying on SSH don't use openssh any more, they use libssh2 now. |
| 11:35.36 | GNU\colossus | (afaik) |
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| 11:37.52 | meyerm | GNU\colossus: Ah, interesting. I just checked my kio_sftp.so and it is linked to libssh (not libssh2!). |
| 11:38.55 | pinotree | yes, libssh, so your bug should go to it (not to kio_sftp) |
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| 11:40.52 | avenir | meyerm: how do you check what it is linked to? |
| 11:41.02 | pinotree | ldd |
| 11:41.03 | meyerm | avenir: ldd |
| 11:41.09 | avenir | thanks |
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| 11:46.55 | DeviantPeer | Hi all! on gentoo with raster use flag for qt-gui I'm getting lot's of segfaults in plasma when using the taskbar. |
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| 11:48.12 | DeviantPeer | (using kde 4.3.5 compiled with qt 4.6.2) |
| 11:48.28 | GNU\colossus | DeviantPeer: no such problems here with KDE 4.4.(0|1) |
| 11:49.17 | DeviantPeer | GNU\colossus: it's still keyword masked in gentoo. And I read that there are some issues with kdepim (kmail) |
| 11:49.45 | meyerm | DeviantPeer: Try deleting your plasma-config. My Plasma also always crashed until I cleaned my plasmadesktop-appletsrc on the konsole. |
| 11:50.05 | DeviantPeer | meyerm: I'll try that. |
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| 11:51.25 | DeviantPeer | brb |
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| 11:55.20 | DeviantPeer | it works.. taskbar is not killing plasma anymore. thx |
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| 12:15.06 | DeviantPeer | yes, after cleaning plasma config files the taskbar is not segfaulting anymore. Thx for the tip. |
| 12:15.18 | meyerm | DeviantPeer: you're welcome :) |
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| 12:23.08 | DeviantPeer | another thing. I'm trying to use the weather as desktop background but I can't get the BBC provider to find any city at all (not even London) |
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| 12:50.17 | kW_ | Hello! Is there any KDE4 app where you can extract pages from a PDF file? |
| 12:50.59 | cb400f | you can do it with pdftk.. dunno why it has to be a kde tool |
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| 13:25.37 | Vash63 | Is there any way to make a task manager only show applications that are on that display? |
| 13:25.56 | Vash63 | I added a second panel to my other display and a second task manager, but they're sharing windows. |
| 13:26.14 | Vash63 | ...nm, found it. I was right clicking the wrong area. |
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| 13:28.53 | QwertyM | For some reason, I'd like the taskbar to separate tasks by activities as well.. |
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| 13:47.14 | kW_ | cb400f: it has to be a kde tool because "normal users" are not savvy to use the command line |
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| 13:52.09 | zeke | kW_: you mean the novices |
| 13:52.15 | zeke | aka n00bs :P |
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| 13:53.32 | kW_ | zeke: well, users like e.g. your mother... people who can use dolphin and firefox, but not the command line |
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| 13:54.57 | cb400f | kW_: do they need to extract stuff from pdfs? ;-) |
| 13:55.26 | cb400f | .. dunno what gui tools exist.. think kword has some support for importing pdf.. but not too nice |
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| 13:55.35 | kW_ | cb400f: yes, they do |
| 13:55.36 | kW_ | hm... |
| 13:55.51 | cb400f | there's a pdf import extension for OOo too.. didn't have much luck with it myself |
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| 13:56.10 | cb400f | there was also a kde3 thingy called pdfedit.. also quite buggy in my experience |
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| 13:56.38 | cb400f | maybe you could just print the pdf to pdf.. and then only print the pages you need :-) |
| 13:56.57 | cb400f | also okular lets you copy/paste from pdf files.. both as text and as image |
| 13:57.25 | gaugino | there are tools to manipulate pdfs via shell |
| 13:57.42 | kW_ | cb400f: well, print to PDF is an option, I think |
| 13:57.59 | kW_ | cb400f: copy&paste may work as text and as a image, but not as PDF (sub)files |
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| 13:58.51 | cb400f | gaugino: read back.. they're not user friendly enough in this case apparently |
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| 13:59.10 | gaugino | i just joined |
| 13:59.17 | gaugino | sorry |
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| 14:02.08 | gaugino | PDFTK Builder? |
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| 14:07.20 | jreznik | hi, where can I find kdebase 4.4.1 changelog? http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/4_4_1/kdebase.txt says 404 (as linked from announcement) |
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| 14:35.27 | daedaluz | my new kwin global shortcuts are arranged like ctrl+WASD, but with meta+ESDF instead. worth trying out, zero conflicts and super ergonomical. |
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| 14:38.11 | deever | hi |
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| 14:48.16 | deever | any mac(ports) users here? |
| 14:48.27 | deever | anyone else with this? http://pastebin.com/D813JRew |
| 14:49.40 | pinotree | deever: #kde-mac |
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| 14:51.51 | deever | pinotree: thx |
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| 15:09.14 | aljosa | i'm looking for some docs on howto embed gtk app in kde window (xembed?), if possible via python. any tips/links? |
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| 15:20.08 | buntfalke | My Konqueror 4.3.4 has web shortcuts enabled, but I deselected the "kde" shortcut which searches kde API for I dont need it - it's on anyway - and so are all others. |
| 15:20.25 | buntfalke | no matter what i select in the "choose one by one scrollbar", they're either all on or all off. |
| 15:20.29 | buntfalke | How to fix that? |
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| 15:22.36 | gaugino | does anybody know how to fix the kioslave bug with fish.:// without overwriting variables |
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| 15:26.27 | Biosftw | I have some problems with the nepomuk search ... it simply does not work : P |
| 15:27.22 | Biosftw | it is enabled in my system settings but using the search in dolphin will leads to no results at all |
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| 15:27.44 | cb400f | don't think it works for anyone |
| 15:27.54 | cb400f | maybe trueg.. but noone else |
| 15:28.11 | cb400f | just ignore it.. and try it again sometime later is my advise |
| 15:28.56 | cb400f | I actually did manage to get one result for a filename once, I have to say |
| 15:30.02 | Biosftw | hrm to bad :P |
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| 15:32.34 | cb400f | while you ignore it, and hope for better times, you may want to disable strigi (while keeping nepomuk running) |
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| 16:05.34 | aj814 | hmm...thank you I will check it out |
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| 16:35.19 | erry | how do you change your keybpard layout in kde |
| 16:37.03 | cb400f | erry: systemsettings -> regional and language -> kb layout |
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| 16:57.46 | Tycho | Since i activated tabbed windows in KDE, whenever i have an application like okular running minimized and i open another pdf-document, the application stays minimized instead of popping up. Is there a way to change this behavior? |
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| 17:42.35 | Arithmos | hi |
| 17:42.55 | Arithmos | is it a bug ? ssertion failed: XLevel->KContactGenActors.FindItemIndex(this) == INDEX_NONE [File:UnActor.cpp] [Line: 1788] |
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| 17:43.31 | Arithmos | that appear a crash of my game |
| 17:43.35 | Arithmos | after |
| 17:43.36 | sredna2 | Arithmos: it is something that the developers did not want to happen |
| 17:44.06 | sredna2 | the assertion is there to assure that someting bad does not happen in the following code |
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| 17:46.53 | Arithmos | sredna2: then something bad want to do something bad in that code ? How can I faind that something bad ? |
| 17:46.59 | Arithmos | find |
| 17:47.43 | sredna2 | Arithmos: you would have to look in the file (UnActor.cpp, line 1788) |
| 17:47.57 | sredna2 | how do i group windows in tabs? |
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| 17:52.19 | Arithmos | sredna2: you must have the last kde4 released and clic right, then you can find a way with special grouping windows |
| 17:52.33 | Arithmos | right on the top of window* |
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| 18:06.10 | Zalamander | Hello |
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| 18:06.36 | Zalamander | What is the name of a bluetooth connection manager app in KDE4? |
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| 18:07.47 | IanN | is there a way of testing svn credentials are working correctly over ssh? |
| 18:08.03 | Zalamander | IanN, run an svn list or something |
| 18:08.52 | lambert | kbluetooth4 |
| 18:09.33 | Zalamander | lambert, thanks |
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| 18:11.14 | Zalamander | Hm, looks like that doesn't have support for pairing audio devices yet? |
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| 18:11.34 | Zalamander | I guess people actually use bluetooth for file transfer too :\ |
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| 18:17.28 | IanN | hmmm, i get a connection refused using svn.kde.org |
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| 18:21.22 | daedaluz | it's funny how you grow into KDE. I had to spend lengthy period in windows only and there wasn't a single day I didn't miss my keyboard shortcuts, dolphin and native KDE apps. that actually didn't happen in KDE 3.5 days, so I think KDE4 has surpassed it |
| 18:21.49 | Arithmos | Zalamander: it is not bluez job supporting audio devices ? Not an expert but curious |
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| 18:25.09 | Zalamander | Arithmos, bluetooth is the protocol used to perform the pairing two devices. |
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| 18:25.21 | Arithmos | I have some USE flags like "alsa and gstreamer" used for compilation with funtoo and bluez depending on solid, which is kde hardware library, I can suppose that kbluetooth use this support ? no ? |
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| 18:27.56 | Zalamander | No clue here, I'm only beginning to investigate bluetooth support for a laptop I just purchased. |
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| 18:30.26 | sredna | Arithmos: run the cmake script in kdebluetooth, that will tell you what it finds and not finds that it can use :) |
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| 18:32.11 | Arithmos | I found that http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/AudioDevices |
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| 18:36.33 | IanN | if I try svn checkout svn+ssh://username@svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/playground/office I get "svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly" |
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| 18:41.23 | Zalamander | Arithmos, thanks for the link |
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| 18:43.32 | Arithmos | mmm, I don't understand are bluez and openobex projects with same purpose |
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| 18:43.57 | Arithmos | Zaister: :) |
| 18:44.11 | Arithmos | erf he left |
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| 18:58.10 | Velines | hi |
| 18:59.18 | Velines | does anyone know some netbook-distro shipping 4.4.1 with netbook shell? i'd love to try it |
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| 19:00.51 | JyZyXEL | when doing a replace |
| 19:01.47 | JyZyXEL | oh it was just the file extension detection failing |
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| 19:10.51 | romahagen | it's sad, guys: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=2 |
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| 19:18.04 | sredna2 | romahagen: turn the bells and whistles off :) |
| 19:18.15 | daedaluz | if anyone is interested, I've done some usability experiments and made a total revamp of KWin global shortcut keys. |
| 19:18.48 | daedaluz | I uploaded the layout file in google docs, would like to have some feedback http://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B1Frn55DCMJ1MGVkMmUwNzctOTc3ZC00NmFmLWJiMjYtNTBhMTU2MDAwMjA5&hl=en |
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| 19:19.31 | romahagen | sredna2: it's a pity kde eats so much memory. and I feel it with every release... |
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| 19:24.53 | sredna2 | romahagen: all the features does not come for free. What you get is a well integrated and very functional environment, and applications. Which is why I keep using it :) |
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| 19:26.33 | sredna2 | daedaluz: google tells me that my browser is not supported, so if you'd like me to read that, plase it somwhere else :) |
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| 19:27.31 | daedaluz | it's a file |
| 19:27.42 | romahagen | sredna2: it's true. but that should not stimulate to buy a new pc. if I do the same stuff all the time say editing files, watching films and listening to music then I expect this to eat the same amount of memory roughly.. by the way, I've already gaved up with amarok. my computer cannot cope his bloated gui |
| 19:27.59 | sredna2 | daedaluz: i can't get to it using that link |
| 19:28.10 | daedaluz | I can. use firefox |
| 19:28.37 | sredna2 | daedaluz: i use konqueror |
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| 19:30.08 | sredna2 | romahagen: turn off desktop effects, strigi, nepomuk, then you'd probably be on the same level |
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| 19:46.55 | Arithmos | That interesting. Looking into the system settings in section power management section battery critacal level with a % value. I love math ;) |
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| 20:04.35 | daedaluz | sredna2: http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/KWin+FPS+Style+Global+Shortcuts+?content=121267 |
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| 20:12.13 | vjoe | yo |
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| 20:17.49 | sredna | daedaluz: while i can see what you want to do, i think it is dangerous to use CTRL shortcuts for global stuff. But for me it is definately interresting to improve the keyboard support |
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| 20:18.31 | daedaluz | sredna: I used only meta |
| 20:18.33 | sredna | uses the meta key for much global stuff |
| 20:18.49 | sredna | daedaluz: ok, maybe those are there already |
| 20:18.53 | daedaluz | yup |
| 20:19.17 | sredna | they are bound to conflict with apps with many commands, such as kate :) |
| 20:19.35 | sredna | i believe i have in fact disabled some to get kate to work |
| 20:19.50 | daedaluz | sredna: as long as those with ctrl are KDE defaults, they are not conflicting |
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| 20:20.09 | vjoe | is it possible to remove the title bars from the windows? |
| 20:20.40 | daedaluz | vjoe: yup, there's option to hide frame |
| 20:20.47 | sredna | vjoe: by making windows full screen, or by using a window decoration without titlebars ;) |
| 20:20.56 | vjoe | ok |
| 20:21.03 | sredna | the titlebar is not the frame |
| 20:21.06 | vjoe | I am going to install kde and try it out them |
| 20:21.07 | vjoe | then |
| 20:21.32 | sredna | if you use the netbook profile, all application window are starteed fullscreen as default |
| 20:22.16 | vjoe | hm ok |
| 20:22.23 | daedaluz | assigned hide borders to meta+shift+h now |
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| 20:22.47 | sredna | isn't that a toggle? |
| 20:23.03 | sredna | i would say win + shift + b ;) |
| 20:23.14 | sredna | meta, sorry |
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| 20:23.55 | sredna | i have no frame/border on mazimized windows, but they do have a title bar |
| 20:24.04 | sredna | which i appreciate btw |
| 20:24.10 | daedaluz | changed it to meta+ctrl+h due text field incertainties |
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| 20:49.24 | reggieP123_ | hey folks |
| 20:50.16 | reggieP123_ | I just had a question regarding kde 4.4.1 |
| 20:50.54 | reggieP123_ | I just saw a distro with a panel with no text on the icons how can I reproduce that is there an option somewhere to allow a user to do that |
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| 20:54.53 | _zapp | reggieP123_: maybe it was this plasmoid: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/STasks?content=99739 |
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| 20:56.52 | reggieP123_ | yes sir wow thank you so very much question is will this version be compatible with kde 4.4.1 |
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| 20:57.31 | ihalip | i don't see any reason why it shouldn't be compatible |
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| 20:58.19 | reggieP123_ | thank you soooo much fellas really appreciate it |
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| 20:59.36 | _zapp | in the comments they say you can use smoothtasks, maybe it works better with kde 4.4: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Smooth+Tasks?content=101586 |
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| 21:00.48 | reggieP123_ | hummm but this is showing text in the panel think I will try the other one first then give this smoothtask a try after |
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| 21:29.54 | LameBMX | where are the disc labels set that plasmoids see? system-monitor-harddisk has the wrong label for one of my drives |
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| 21:30.00 | LameBMX | kde4.4 btw |
| 21:30.02 | duryodhan | Hi all .. how do I disable system sounds for applications in KDE? I can't find the option . My firefox and Chrome make a sound everytime I press a button , its really irritating |
| 21:31.06 | pinotree | duryodhan: that's not kde, you have to ask in either firefox or chrome channels |
| 21:31.46 | duryodhan | pinotree:its a general problem - shouldn't KDE have 'no sounds on button clicks' ? |
| 21:32.16 | pinotree | duryodhan: no, it isn't a general issue, no kde apps can do that |
| 21:32.29 | duryodhan | pinotree: ohh... ok |
| 21:33.04 | IanN | well i have a check box on my sound preferences screen that says "Enable window and button sounds" |
| 21:33.19 | IanN | duryodhan: what distro? |
| 21:33.35 | duryodhan | kubuntu Karmic |
| 21:33.59 | duryodhan | IanN: where's this sound preferences screen ? |
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| 21:34.38 | IanN | duryodhan: on fedora I have it under system, preferences, but that may well be distro specific |
| 21:35.02 | Tatsh | how do i make a plugin or whatever it needs to be that would detect a file type based on magic number (not extension) in konqueror/etc? |
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| 21:35.45 | pinotree | Tatsh: what's the actual issue? |
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| 21:36.19 | Tatsh | well i have a file that only gets seen as plain text but i'd like Konqueror to say what it is; there are 5 bytes i could use to identify it, being "name=" |
| 21:36.35 | Tatsh | and i know that sounds really really ambiguous but for this type that's what it starts with every time |
| 21:36.47 | pinotree | and what should it represent? |
| 21:36.50 | Tatsh | there are a few others too but it's mostly the first one |
| 21:37.00 | Tatsh | this is the .info file to a Drupal module |
| 21:37.03 | Tatsh | if you know what that is |
| 21:37.14 | Tatsh | just contains identification data for the module |
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| 21:37.31 | Tatsh | sometimes it starts with comments, sometimes name= |
| 21:37.46 | pinotree | that's too generic to be recognized correctly |
| 21:38.16 | Tatsh | my question is, how does konqueror see that an image is png when there's no extension (i know how, but what kinda thing do i need to make)? |
| 21:39.07 | pinotree | every file tipe is a MIME type |
| 21:40.05 | Tatsh | where's it getting the magic numbers |
| 21:40.05 | pinotree | for example see system settings â advanced â file associations to see all the installed one |
| 21:40.06 | pinotree | they are specified in each mime type definition |
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| 21:44.52 | enkidu | Tatsh: linux is not windows, here file is checked for data deader not extension |
| 21:45.01 | enkidu | header* |
| 21:45.10 | Tatsh | i know, but how do i add another mimetype then |
| 21:45.29 | thiago_home | File Associations, in System Settings |
| 21:45.33 | enkidu | Tatsh: mimetypes are defined in /etc/magic file (or similar one) |
| 21:45.39 | pinotree | enkidu: no |
| 21:45.57 | enkidu | pinotree: I mean magic strings -> mimetypes |
| 21:46.03 | pinotree | enkidu: nope |
| 21:46.16 | enkidu | where they are stored now? |
| 21:46.35 | thiago_home | shared-mime-info |
| 21:46.40 | pinotree | exactly |
| 21:47.30 | enkidu | /usr/share/mime/magic here ;) |
| 21:47.49 | pinotree | that's an autogenerated file |
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| 21:50.40 | pinotree | (and its format has nothing to do with the magic of 'file') |
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| 22:05.10 | sredna2 | file(1) rocks :-) |
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| 22:09.08 | nsaw | hi |
| 22:10.12 | nsaw | is there a way to restrict a user to only a few choosen applications? |
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| 22:12.02 | Aorimn | nsaw, look at chmod |
| 22:12.59 | mechanical_man | i have attached two monitors on my notebook. can i show different virtual desktops on each screen? |
| 22:13.28 | javier_ | nsaw: another possibility could be kiosk |
| 22:13.33 | enkidu | mechanical_man: why would you like to do that? you can use them as joined werkspace |
| 22:13.39 | poseidon | For kde applications, is it standard for them to be made using kdevelop, or does vim/emac + cmake still prevail? |
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| 22:13.46 | nsaw | Aorimn: i knew chmod, but it is nearly impossible to change all permission of each executable |
| 22:13.55 | nsaw | javier_: i have a look at kiosk |
| 22:14.11 | enkidu | nsaw: you can set specific path for user |
| 22:14.24 | enkidu | then revoke its access to other executables |
| 22:14.38 | mechanical_man | enkidu: i group some programs on each virtual desktop. e.g one for communication, one for writing. now i want to show the one which contains the applications for writing on the bigger screen |
| 22:15.07 | enkidu | mechanical_man: different screens can act nearly same as desktops |
| 22:15.47 | mechanical_man | enkidu: i have four virtual desktops, but two screens, i want to be able to switch between two virtual desktops on ech screen |
| 22:16.14 | enkidu | now I understand you |
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| 22:18.03 | mechanical_man | enkidu: i already have a extended desktop which covers both screens, but i can only show one whole virtual desktop on both, but i would be able to switch between virt. 1 and 2 on screen 1 and 3 and 4 on screen 2 |
| 22:19.18 | mechanical_man | or between 3 virtual desktops on the smaller notebook-screen and keep one fixed virtual desktop on the bigger screen |
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| 22:20.35 | enkidu | mechanical_man: cannot check atm, have no CRT nearby ;/ |
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| 22:26.08 | mechanical_man | ok, thanks enkidu |
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| 22:27.35 | enkidu | brb, have to check, why my keymap broke |
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| 22:42.07 | codenamekt | Is there anything similar to kdcop for kde 4? |
| 22:42.17 | pinotree | qdbusviewer? |
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| 23:02.30 | rudolph | anyone here using bangarang from git? |
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| 23:03.41 | rudolph | hi |
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| 23:11.33 | codenamekt | pinotree: Btw, thanks for the point in the right direction. |
| 23:11.44 | codenamekt | pinotree: Exactly what I needed. |
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