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| 00:19.33 | edt | how do I reset the akonadi database so that it will start without getting 'InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11' and killing kmail |
| 00:19.46 | edt | mysql is running |
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| 00:24.33 | knoppix | It was my understanding that kde apps were supposed to function properly with other windows managers such as lxde, is this true? |
| 00:25.19 | pinotree | yes |
| 00:25.20 | knoppix | The programs will run, but they act like old DOS programs and take over the whole desktop. |
| 00:25.56 | pinotree | lxde is not a window manager; what window manager are you using? |
| 00:26.00 | knoppix | i.e. the do not have their title bar, will not resize or move, cannot have other windows on top |
| 00:26.02 | knoppix | lxde |
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| 00:26.11 | knoppix | (hide the taskbar, etc.) |
| 00:26.28 | knoppix | all non kde programs behave properly |
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| 00:26.44 | pinotree | repeat: which window manager are you actually using? |
| 00:27.16 | knoppix | I don't have sufficient resources to run the full kde as much as I would like to, but have become dependent on many kde programs |
| 00:27.30 | knoppix | lxde |
| 00:27.35 | pinotree | no |
| 00:27.41 | knoppix | no? |
| 00:27.46 | pinotree | LXDE is a desktop environment, not a window manager |
| 00:27.52 | knoppix | oh |
| 00:28.03 | knoppix | I am using knoppix 6.2 |
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| 00:28.09 | knoppix | I have compiz running |
| 00:28.29 | pinotree | ah, compiz brokeness, please ask in #compiz-fusion |
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| 00:29.07 | urkud | You have enough resources for compiz and not enough for kwin?.. |
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| 00:29.44 | bjb1959 | I bought an ati hd 4350 and did a clean install, installed latest catalyst driver and upgraded to 4.4. I can't seem to get coverflow or flip to work. is it the video card or 4.4 issue? |
| 00:29.45 | knoppix | well yes, if I disabled compiz I could use kwin, but I am even more dependent on compiz functions to move around |
| 00:30.20 | knoppix | oh so you think compiz is causing the problem pinotree ? |
| 00:30.26 | pinotree | yes |
| 00:30.37 | knoppix | have you heard of this problem before? |
| 00:30.48 | pinotree | yes, hence #compiz-fusion |
| 00:31.02 | knoppix | on knoppix 6.2, kwin is there, but it is broken |
| 00:31.30 | knoppix | ok I'll ask there |
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| 00:32.43 | bjb1959 | can't get coverflow or flip to work in 4.4 any ideas? |
| 00:33.02 | knoppix | I have used compiz with kde with virtually every combination of versions you can think of with no problems before |
| 00:33.20 | knoppix | is this specific to a particular kde or a particular compiz |
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| 00:33.45 | knoppix | the only new factor was using lxde |
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| 00:42.44 | mase_wk | hey guys, running kubuntu on my laptop with kde 4.4 and was running IOtop to see what my disk was doing and i noticed that every time i click into a new window, konsole, konqueror etc.. it does a disk write |
| 00:42.51 | mase_wk | with that application |
| 00:43.00 | mase_wk | ie click into konq , it immediately writes to disk |
| 00:43.10 | mase_wk | its only a very small amount |
| 00:43.25 | mase_wk | but i was wondering if anyone knows why it does this ? |
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| 01:05.09 | oneforall | weird now I left click on a np4 flv and it opens in mplayer but it allso opens a new tab too O.o |
| 01:05.16 | knoppix | pinotree -- thank you. It was a compiz problem that simply required toggling "Legacy Fullscreen Support" in workarounds for the compiz settings. |
| 01:05.18 | oneforall | mp4* |
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| 01:05.42 | pinotree | np |
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| 01:06.45 | knoppix | Odd that they would have that enabled as a default in knoppix. Actually maybe not, knoppix has always made a point of accomodating legacy stuff. |
| 01:07.21 | oneforall | wtf now it quit doing that , and no middle click isn't doing it |
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| 01:08.39 | Paddy_NI | Why do people dislike kubuntu so much.. it is so heavily slated |
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| 01:08.59 | Paddy_NI | I am having a pretty nice experience with it thus far |
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| 01:09.39 | notatoy | is there a way to suggest something for kde? |
| 01:09.45 | knoppix | oneforall, I don't know your problem but I have heard of something like that with folks running both mplayer and the mplayer plugin |
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| 01:11.21 | Paddy_NI | notatoy: you mean kde brainstorm |
| 01:12.00 | notatoy | Paddy_NI |
| 01:12.06 | notatoy | yes |
| 01:13.07 | oneforall | ah yeah I do have the mplayer pluggin, something musta triggered it I guess |
| 01:13.10 | notatoy | oneforall |
| 01:13.10 | Paddy_NI | notatoy: http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php?sid=6836856eec9681f2ee995823bd8a6f2b#cat83 |
| 01:13.22 | notatoy | Paddy_NI: yes i found it. ty |
| 01:13.45 | oneforall | ? |
| 01:14.06 | notatoy | i found how to enable thumbnails for flv video |
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| 01:15.24 | vertago1 | hey has anyone got the tabbed windows to work in 4.4? |
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| 01:17.08 | oneforall | notatoy yeah I posted it if you scroll back :) |
| 01:17.24 | notatoy | i was afk |
| 01:17.27 | notatoy | how did you do it? |
| 01:17.40 | oneforall | Settings>File Management>General>Previews |
| 01:17.46 | oneforall | Video Files )MPlayer Thunbs) |
| 01:18.03 | notatoy | i had to add x-flv to the video section of the viletype associations... |
| 01:18.04 | oneforall | Thumbs* |
| 01:18.16 | notatoy | it wasn't there |
| 01:18.23 | descendent87 | vertago1 tabbed windows work fine for me |
| 01:18.48 | vertago1 | descendent87 you just click and drag with the middle mouse button right? |
| 01:19.13 | oneforall | hmm strange that it wasn't there |
| 01:19.23 | descendent87 | vertago1 yes that works or right click the titlebar and go to "move window to group" |
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| 01:19.51 | oneforall | I kjnow the mplayer thumbnail is part of kde now , it used to be a seperate compile |
| 01:20.12 | patrick_ | I'm waiting to download one last dependency before I can compile KDE 4.4. I am running KDE 4.3.4. I found that version of KDE to be quite slow. Has anyone noticed any speed improvements? |
| 01:21.21 | vertago1 | descendent87 it looks like I am missing a package or something, the windows behavior has the "Start Window Tab Drag" for "Middle button" but when I right click on the titlebars it doesn't have move to window group |
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| 01:21.47 | descendent87 | vertago1 what distro are you using? |
| 01:22.02 | Paddy_NI | Must I use the bespin theme in order for xbar to function correctly? |
| 01:22.39 | vertago1 | descendent87 kubuntu 9.10 with the ppa backports and ppa |
| 01:23.26 | descendent87 | vertago1 I'm not familiar with kubuntu so can't help on which packages you could be missing, best to ask on ubuntuforums probably |
| 01:24.31 | vertago1 | descendent87 alright, already did some searching but it is new enough that it doesn't seem like many people have looked into it on kubuntu |
| 01:24.36 | oneforall | hmm how do you use the tab windows ? |
| 01:25.06 | vertago1 | oneforall you either right click on the title bar and select move window to group or middle click and drag |
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| 01:27.03 | vertago1 | oneforall it was added in kde 4.4 |
| 01:27.45 | oneforall | yeah I have 4.4 |
| 01:27.56 | oneforall | just wondering the steps to use it :) |
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| 01:28.45 | oneforall | just right click on the titlebar and pick fromthe "move window to group" ? |
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| 01:30.21 | vertago1 | oneforall after you click it you should be able to drag it onto another window |
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| 01:35.35 | oneforall | hmm just trying it with gimp , but when I clkicked on the other tab it just sends it underanother window:) |
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| 01:36.58 | oneforall | hmm it works once , but then when you goto click back to the other tab it sends it to the bg |
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| 01:46.11 | oneforall | what is it that would make konq file mode ask me to restore etc but now after I close and reopen it ti doesn't restore or ask now |
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| 02:06.46 | Paddy_NI | If I wanted an external video player to play any embedded video files on a web page like divx/xvid/mpg etc what would I need to remove/install? |
| 02:07.00 | Paddy_NI | I have the restricted codecs installed |
| 02:07.12 | Paddy_NI | mplayer fails on kde sadly |
| 02:07.28 | Paddy_NI | well the browser plugin anyway |
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| 02:10.33 | Sho_ | Paddy_NI: kmplayer |
| 02:10.56 | Paddy_NI | Sho_: is that a browser plugin? |
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| 02:11.53 | Paddy_NI | oh kaffeine-mozilla |
| 02:12.20 | Sho_ | Paddy_NI: In some sense, but it's not an NPAPI plugin. It's a KPart (KParts are a component model in the KDE platform) that Konqueror can use to play videos embedded in websites, as well as SMIL animations. Basically what the QuickTime and RealPlayer etc. plugins do on Windows browsers. |
| 02:12.48 | Paddy_NI | Oh I get it cheers mate |
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| 02:13.17 | Paddy_NI | Sho_: should I remove the mplayer mozilla plugin? |
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| 02:13.50 | Sho_ | Paddy_NI: Yeah the mozilla mplayer plugin only works in mozilla-based browsers like Firefox .. |
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| 02:16.57 | oneforall | hmm that kde forum work with the bug page user:password or totally seperate? |
| 02:17.25 | Sho_ | separate afaik |
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| 02:17.39 | oneforall | ok thanks |
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| 02:18.34 | pARAd0X85 | how to modify the transparency of the taskbar in KDE ? |
| 02:21.08 | Alumin_ | pARAd0X85: if you find that out, I'd love to know |
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| 02:22.00 | Sho_ | pARAd0X85, Alumin_: You'd have to modify the SVG file |
| 02:22.17 | Alumin_ | I am not above that sort of behaviour |
| 02:22.22 | Alumin_ | which SVG file? :) |
| 02:22.35 | Dice-Man | big up tout moun gwada |
| 02:22.45 | Sho_ | pARAd0X85, Alumin_: You can start with the theme's original file, modify it, and then tell Plasma to load it for the panel via System Settings -> Advanced -> Desktop Theme Details |
| 02:23.06 | Alumin_ | I'm just using Air at the moment |
| 02:23.15 | Sho_ | That control center module allows you to pick the theme or the file for individual elements like the panel |
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| 02:23.37 | Alumin_ | "System Settings" is the control center? |
| 02:24.05 | Dice-Man | i find Ktorrent better than Transmission |
| 02:24.37 | Sho_ | Alumin_: /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme/default/widgets/panel-background.svgz for the Air theme, path may very depending on distro |
| 02:24.45 | Sho_ | *vary |
| 02:25.02 | Sho_ | Alumin_: System Settings is the control center, yeah |
| 02:25.16 | Alumin_ | oh wait it's Oxygen, not Air...but I'm sure I can find it...thanks! |
| 02:25.32 | Sho_ | yeah just Oxygen instead of default in the path |
| 02:26.55 | Sho_ | Alumin_: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=86388 |
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| 02:29.09 | Alumin_ | hmm, installing inkscape...gnomevfs2 as a dependency? |
| 02:29.19 | Alumin_ | wtf it's an image editor :P |
| 02:29.49 | Sho_ | You could also try Karbon :) |
| 02:30.09 | Alumin_ | oh cool |
| 02:30.22 | Alumin_ | yeah I tried "aptitude search svg | grep -i kde" but didn't get any results |
| 02:30.23 | Sho_ | A 2.2.x version ideally |
| 02:33.03 | Alumin_ | how about 1.6.3? :) I have the file open but I'm not sure what I'm looking at here (not quite graphically-inclined) |
| 02:33.26 | Sho_ | well, 1.6.3 is really old (KDE 3 version) |
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| 02:33.49 | Alumin_ | shakes his fist at Kubuntu |
| 02:34.01 | Sho_ | As for what you're looking at, a panel background consists of nine elements, one for each corner, one for each side and one for the middle |
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| 02:34.49 | Sho_ | So you have to change the opacity of them (or their sub-elements) as you see fit |
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| 02:35.07 | Paddy_NI | Sho_: It seems to work wonderfully in kaffeine but I would also like the option to save the stream is that possible? |
| 02:35.35 | boulabiar | I changed the transparency of the pannel, but KDE crashed |
| 02:39.08 | Paddy_NI | Sho_: or is there anyway of knowing where kaffeine stores the temporary data where it is buffered to? |
| 02:39.58 | boulabiar | pfff, failed to know how to reactivate colibri :( |
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| 02:40.19 | boulabiar | I have now the default notification system of KDE |
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| 02:45.15 | Sho_ | Paddy_NI: Sorry, I'm not a Kaffeine user. But a (rather technical) way to find out if it's buffering to some file would always be strace, of course |
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| 02:45.52 | Paddy_NI | Sho_: And how would I do that? |
| 02:46.15 | Jaunty_PCC | il mio kde4 nei guai |
| 02:46.35 | Sho_ | Paddy_NI: Install strace and read its manpage :) |
| 02:47.21 | NaCl | Has anybody noticed that resume-from-suspend in KDE is sometimes very slow? |
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| 02:48.31 | Sho_ | NaCl: KDE isn't really involved in doing that |
| 02:49.01 | Jaunty_PCC | questo KDE4 shit |
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| 02:49.14 | NaCl | Sho_: I know, but manual suspend is generally much faster. |
| 02:50.04 | NaCl | For KDE, it resumes, and sits there for sometimes more than a few seconds doing whatever. |
| 02:50.22 | NaCl | I can switch VTs while doing it, and one of my friends reported that he can SSH into it in the meantime |
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| 03:40.05 | boulabiar | how to make colibri the default notification system in KDE ? To activate it I should deactivate the default notifier, then run colibri, then reactivate the notifier |
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| 04:17.19 | firephoto | is it just me or does every kde video app screw up the powersave settings for the display? i seem to get stuck in some post presentation mode where the screen turns black. not off. after a few minutes. |
| 04:17.53 | firephoto | i have to enter the performance profile and hit the apply button to fix it. without actually changing anything. |
| 04:18.38 | firephoto | heh. oh yea. and then strigi indexing gets suspended when I do that. ;) |
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| 04:53.24 | leo_rockway | hello everyone |
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| 04:57.12 | leo_rockway | is there a way to change the video program to play html5 embedded videos on Konqueror? |
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| 04:58.30 | leo_rockway | I changed the "embedded" options for ogg/theora/vorbis file associations, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. |
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| 05:00.28 | leo_rockway | I have a funny problem with alsa where Master doesn't control LFE as well, so I'm using PCM as my master channel. The problem is that KDE doesn't pay attention to it. I'm routing my notification sounds through mplayer and I'd like to play the embedded videos on mplayer too if that's possible. |
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| 05:08.04 | lmurray | JackWinter: You like asking hard questions :) |
| 05:08.47 | lmurray | JackWinter: I just use a simple .Xmodmap to get my MX Revolution working |
| 05:09.25 | lmurray | You probably don't want my config as I map buttons to weird things... like having my "middle" button at the thumb |
| 05:09.54 | lmurray | As for chroot... good question |
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| 05:10.52 | lmurray | Assuming you use the same KDE versions in both roots it should be safe to share the /home/ directory KDE configs |
| 05:11.14 | lmurray | But I have heard of some KDE apps not being multi-setting safe |
| 05:11.19 | lmurray | Dunno which ones though |
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| 05:11.39 | Egyptian[Home] | morning all |
| 05:11.51 | Egyptian[Home] | how do i change the autostart items from the command line ? |
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| 05:59.18 | YantraManav | Hi how can I contribute to KDE devel? |
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| 06:28.14 | FeasibilityStudy | learn C/C++ |
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| 07:18.06 | diegoviola | hi, how do i change to the next tab in konsole with the keyboard? |
| 07:18.56 | leo_rockway | diegoviola: shift + arrows works here |
| 07:19.14 | diegoviola | cool, thanks |
| 07:19.54 | leo_rockway | no problem |
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| 07:20.57 | maazu | leo_rockway: hey, i did not know that, Thanks alot! |
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| 07:21.24 | leo_rockway | I think I learned it from Yakuake |
| 07:21.33 | leo_rockway | maazu: =] |
| 07:21.57 | maazu | : ) |
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| 07:56.00 | massimo | Hi. Where did old kcontrol 3.5.10 store the setting about MacOS-style Menu-Bar? |
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| 07:57.31 | massimo | I need some kde3 applications but kcontrol doesn't work anymore and shows an empty tree. The menu bar is completely missing in those applications when running from kde4. |
| 07:59.15 | diegoviola | massimo: why don't you use systemsettings? |
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| 07:59.33 | massimo | diegoviola: ? That is for kde4. |
| 07:59.47 | voidprayer | massimo: you want that? |
| 08:00.00 | voidprayer | massimo: Mac OS Menu bar is in window behaviour. |
| 08:00.09 | massimo | No, kde3 applications use kde3 settings. |
| 08:00.57 | urkud | Probably, KDE3 menu bar depends on running kde3 session. I don't know |
| 08:01.02 | voidprayer | massimo: I mean KDE3's menu bar is in Window Behaviour. |
| 08:01.25 | massimo | Ok, didn't know that MacOS Menu bar has been already integrated in kde4, ok. |
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| 08:02.55 | leo_rockway | wait, there's menu bar in kde4 already? |
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| 08:08.27 | massimo | It was grep "macStyle" ~/.kde3.5/share/config/kdeglobals |
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| 08:09.37 | massimo | leo_rockway: No, just on wishlist: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153027 |
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| 08:10.10 | leo_rockway | massimo: it was on my personal wishlist too, but then I remembered that the top half of my laptop screen is broken :S |
| 08:10.17 | voidprayer | leo_rockway: But you can use Bespin. |
| 08:10.26 | voidprayer | leo_rockway: A theme thant support it. |
| 08:10.43 | leo_rockway | I am using bespin, I didn't know it had menubar, though |
| 08:11.48 | voidprayer | leo_rockway: A plasma addon called XBar. |
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| 08:12.00 | voidprayer | leo_rockway: That's what you want, although I think it is a little unusable. |
| 08:12.18 | leo_rockway | oh, right, I saw it, but I didn't really try it. Thanks voidprayer |
| 08:13.26 | johnny69 | Hello Kde people... Is there any way to get Dolphin to behave similiar to Konqueror? In this case, when you click on a folder on the LEFT....it displays the content on the right? IN otherwords, left pane controls what it shown on the right? Anybody know? |
| 08:14.48 | maazu | johnny69: i'm ok with dolphins current settings |
| 08:14.51 | maazu | bye all |
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| 08:15.12 | Torch | johnny69: switch to columns view. |
| 08:15.15 | leo_rockway | johnny69: folder view? |
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| 08:15.25 | leo_rockway | johnny69: hit F7 |
| 08:15.27 | massimo | leo_rockway: Please vote for that issue anyway ! :) |
| 08:15.41 | leo_rockway | massimo: okay, I will. |
| 08:15.57 | leo_rockway | I still have to figure out how to fix my sound... |
| 08:16.02 | johnny69 | F7 didn't change the behavior. |
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| 08:16.09 | johnny69 | I'll try the columns thingy |
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| 08:16.59 | leo_rockway | johnny69: F7 shows a folder tree and if I click on them the view on the right updates |
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| 08:19.55 | ronnandr | is it possible to open a program simultaneusly already running on another computer through X11 forwarding / SSH? |
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| 08:20.19 | johnny69 | leo_rockway: Ok, that worked...thank you. Just as I wanted. However, I ended up with THREE panes now total. |
| 08:20.23 | ronnandr | For instance I have Ktorrent running on a server and I want to open it on another computer on the network to administer it |
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| 08:22.05 | t\zz | hi all ! is it in kde-4.4 no more possible to show an icon in the systray when kmail got some new emails? |
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| 08:26.35 | johnny69 | Any idea when we'll have our desktop wallpaper controls returned? Such as shade gradients, effects on the wallpaper itself such as we had in kde 3.x ?? |
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| 08:27.30 | leo_rockway | ronnandr: you should use the web interface for ktorrent |
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| 08:28.11 | ronnandr | loe_rockway: I will check it out, but do you know if what I'm asking is possible? |
| 08:28.36 | leo_rockway | t\zz: settings > configure KMail > appearence > system tray > enable system tray icon > only show kmail in systray if there are unread messages |
| 08:28.44 | ronnandr | one program running on a xserver, but two graphical windows simultaneously |
| 08:28.53 | leo_rockway | ronnandr: I don't know, sorry |
| 08:28.56 | ronnandr | one on the xserver, one on the xclient |
| 08:29.03 | ronnandr | its cool |
| 08:29.19 | leo_rockway | it's probably doable, but I wouldn't know how |
| 08:29.48 | t\zz | leo_rockway: exactly what i was looking for, thank you |
| 08:29.55 | leo_rockway | t\zz: no problem |
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| 08:34.12 | urkud | Probably you need something like vnc/xrdc/xrfb (always forget which word should I use) |
| 08:34.26 | urkud | It allows you to see remote desktop in a window. |
| 08:34.35 | leo_rockway | johnny69: I'm still using Konq as my file manager :S |
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| 08:35.42 | leo_rockway | goes to sleep, bye |
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| 09:15.11 | JackWinter | lmurray: thx for the interrest i had more or less come to the conclusion that asking was a a waste of time, and that i should spend some days googling :) |
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| 09:18.40 | JackWinter | regarding the ms rev mouse, i don't think i really need to remap the buttons. i used to use a prog called btnx, but doesn't work any more on my distro. xev shows all the buttons working on the mouse, it's just that i can't assign them to anything in kde? i'll try with xbindkeys today to see what gives. but browsing showed me that in kde 4.4 i should probably get some extra tab in the mouse config applet, but just have the stantard tabs, maybe it still |
| 09:18.42 | JackWinter | lacks support for my mouse and that is normal. don't know. |
| 09:20.14 | JackWinter | i'll try to remap mouse buttons to keystrokes with xbindkeys, suppose that should work. would prefer if i could assign all 10 buttons directly in kde though |
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| 09:22.45 | JackWinter | regarding a chroot enviroment, still not quite sure what i want to do with it. at the moment i just run wine in it. would however not be bad if i could run kate or so inside the 32bit chroot, but maybe it's a stupod thing to do, and i'd better be advised to do all my work in the 64bit shell, and just wrap the short amount of commands that i really need to run in the chroot in an alias or shell script. think i'm gonna do the latter. seems easier :) |
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| 10:11.23 | monov | rofl :) |
| 10:11.30 | monov | I'm trying to do something in winforms |
| 10:11.50 | monov | and the guys are totally at loss to tell me how to do something as simple as use a system-native Paste icon |
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| 10:12.07 | monov | this is just weird after being in KDE land :D |
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| 10:33.12 | lmurray | JackWinter: Why are you splitting between a 64 and 32 bit root? Why can't you just put everything in the same one? |
| 10:35.33 | JackWinter | lmurray: i hack a little on wine, and i need a wine app. with the chroot i can run 32bit wine in 64bit linux. it's just it would be convinient to run say kate from inside of the chroot, but think i'm gonna do it all using aliases and schroot from 64bit, so i'll actually never be running a cli shell in 32 |
| 10:36.04 | JackWinter | what bothers me more is the mouse :) |
| 10:36.50 | lmurray | ... I still don't understand, although it's a different root it's still running on the same kernel. In the case of wine can't you just set a different C: directory? |
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| 10:39.44 | JackWinter | lmurray: i was just curious. the chroot is purely there for running and compiling 32b wine. earlier i was just wondering if i could integrate a couple of kde apps like kate/kwrite running in the 32b chroot, with the rest of the kde session running in 64bit. seems like it should be possible by sharing kdehome and dbus. |
| 10:40.28 | lmurray | You should just be modifying $PATH and compiling with a fakeroot... |
| 10:40.33 | lmurray | No need to chroot |
| 10:40.57 | JackWinter | but i gotta run now for work, be back in an hour or 2. thx for the help |
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| 10:52.11 | rcc | hi guys, i can consistenly reproduce an issue on kontact. If I click on it, it doesn't startup, however if I click on akregator, I get a nice crash window from kontact. Then I click on 'Restart Application' and kontact shows up, but it gets stuck reading IMAP emails. THen if I close Kontact and I try to launch it again I'm back to the beginning (have to launch akregator, etc etc) |
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| 10:53.12 | urkud | rcc: report a bug. |
| 10:53.28 | urkud | But first look whether someone already done this |
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| 10:55.00 | urkud | Also look whether some kontact process runs |
| 10:55.00 | urkud | ps aux | grep kontact |
| 10:55.00 | urkud | (there is a GUI for this, don't remember the name) |
| 10:55.00 | urkud | Something like "System activity" |
| 10:55.22 | rcc | k, thx urkud |
| 10:55.32 | d-fens_ | hmm ksysguard doesn't refresh when started via Ctrl-Esc |
| 10:55.43 | d-fens_ | but when started from teh console it does |
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| 11:06.49 | voidprayer | where iss the default avatar for users saved? |
| 11:07.23 | Guest54561 | hi |
| 11:09.01 | voidprayer | i see. |
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| 11:09.19 | voidprayer | it is in /usr/share/apps/kdm/pics/users |
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| 11:18.00 | rcc | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228438 |
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| 11:22.04 | phoenix__ | i have aproblem with kget can anyone help me |
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| 11:22.31 | phoenix__ | snapshot of kget missing tabs--> http://imagebin.org/86445 |
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| 11:47.33 | adam | hi, what do you think about set no password on the kwallet manager in order to be able to login automatically on apps without having to insert the pwd? It would be good if it would be possible to set it just on accessing directly the wallet though |
| 11:48.30 | cb400f | adam: you can create multiple wallets |
| 11:48.50 | cb400f | to have some stuff passwordless and other stuff more secure |
| 11:49.25 | adam | cb400f: i use an external app (keepass) for pwd management... i just need kwallet in order to access all the emails, msn, jabber, etc |
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| 11:49.57 | adam | cb400f: but having an oper wallet the access to emails account passwords would be to everyone, and that's not so good |
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| 12:09.05 | wilhart | why doesnt ktorrent have a tryout on port testing? |
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| 12:09.17 | wilhart | how do i see if the port is open or not? |
| 12:10.30 | oneforall | and no force start either that I could find :( |
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| 12:33.15 | wilhart | how do i see if the port is open or not? |
| 12:33.18 | wilhart | why doesnt ktorrent have a tryout on port testing? |
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| 12:34.01 | urkud | wilhart: go to #ktorrent |
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| 12:39.55 | wilhart | damn this port is again closed hmm |
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| 12:40.58 | oneforall | wilhart whats it say in the log tab ? |
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| 12:41.22 | wilhart | where is it located |
| 12:41.50 | oneforall | the left side bar under scripts |
| 12:41.59 | wilhart | wait ill paste that screenshot |
| 12:42.37 | oneforall | click pluggin it might not be checked |
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| 12:44.38 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
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| 12:44.53 | Ronis_BR | is there a way with kde 4.4 to set contacts groups on Kontact? |
| 12:44.58 | oneforall | hmm dunno that firewall part of transmission ? |
| 12:45.29 | wilhart | oneforall: i have deluge too |
| 12:45.37 | wilhart | oneforall: port not found |
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| 12:47.18 | oneforall | I seen even the port that works and passes with azureus keeps saying closed with transmission :) |
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| 12:48.50 | wilhart | Checking port 22221 OK |
| 12:49.35 | wilhart | ok works :D again |
| 12:49.35 | wilhart | heh |
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| 12:50.41 | oneforall | ktorrent I gave up on it since I can't get force start and went back to azureus. |
| 12:51.07 | oneforall | and quite a few more controls/features too :( |
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| 12:51.15 | snuggl | still using utorrent in wine here |
| 12:51.27 | snuggl | sooner or later there will be a good client for linux i hope |
| 12:51.30 | Ronis_BR | ktorrent is amayzing |
| 12:51.39 | MarcoPau | hello, on my kde4.4 I can't do copy paste with the mouse central button any more. do you know how to reset it? |
| 12:51.51 | SinnerP | yes, it even comes with splel checkre |
| 12:53.45 | Ronis_BR | MarcoPau: I don't know, but maybe you find something at system settings |
| 12:53.59 | oneforall | Ronis_BR know how to get it to do force start? other wise it sits there for ever. |
| 12:54.31 | MarcoPau | Ronis_BR: that's the first thing I tried but there doesn't seem to be anything related to it in "mouse and keyboard" in systemsettings |
| 12:54.41 | Ronis_BR | oneforall: I don't know, here it have always worked... |
| 12:54.51 | Ronis_BR | oneforall: I just need to adjust the port because of the firewall |
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| 12:55.33 | oneforall | snuggl I've nevber tried utorent. But other than the java mem hog azureus has a lot of control and better out put of whats going on etc |
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| 12:56.34 | snuggl | oneforall: utorrent is really much nicer imo, and done in pretty tight c++ |
| 12:57.04 | oneforall | Ronis_BR well it connects ok but its that que thing with force start its will get you downloading a hell of a lot sooner. the no force and it can take hrs or days |
| 12:58.02 | Ronis_BR | oneforall: have you enabled DHT? |
| 12:58.26 | oneforall | well azureus is nice since it doesn't need wine :). But ktorrent has been getting better . |
| 12:58.28 | oneforall | yeah |
| 12:59.02 | GNU\colossus | ktorrent is the best bittorrent client EVER. |
| 12:59.10 | oneforall | acually some of the places dhtis off but it still needs the force ;) |
| 12:59.55 | GNU\colossus | I prefer transmission for headless operation, but that's about it. |
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| 13:00.14 | Ronis_BR | oneforall: so, I can't help anymore soorry... |
| 13:00.16 | oneforall | well sofar since I can't get a force start and more control its not that great . But I keep lookign at it just incase |
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| 13:03.15 | do0ob | hi |
| 13:03.22 | do0ob | does kde4 work on intel graphics? |
| 13:03.32 | urkud | Works for me |
| 13:03.34 | snuggl | sure |
| 13:03.49 | do0ob | can you use effects like wobbly windows? |
| 13:03.49 | SinnerP | I run it on Intel graphics |
| 13:03.53 | SinnerP | yes |
| 13:03.54 | snuggl | there is nice guides on the web to tune intel cards to go a bit faster |
| 13:04.05 | urkud | (breaks here with git-master xorg-server but this can be a server bug) |
| 13:04.08 | do0ob | and live previews? |
| 13:04.08 | SinnerP | I'm with Intel i915 |
| 13:04.09 | snuggl | "a bit" like double speed for me =P |
| 13:04.34 | SinnerP | Intel i915 + KDE 4.4.0 + Mandriva 2010.0 |
| 13:04.34 | urkud | I use all this with Intel i915 and latest stable xorg-server |
| 13:05.09 | SinnerP | x11-server-xorg-1.6.5 |
| 13:05.15 | SinnerP | that's my xorg |
| 13:05.27 | urkud | snuggl: could you please point me to such guide? |
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| 13:06.21 | snuggl | urkud: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 |
| 13:06.42 | snuggl | urkud: the parts with versions of software and xorg-conf is the important stuff and can probably be applied to all distros |
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| 13:18.40 | Tass` | how to disable nepomuk? I'm only using kontact here, and it's dragging a bunch of energy... |
| 13:19.46 | oneforall | settings menu |
| 13:20.44 | Tass` | lemme see |
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| 13:21.54 | Tass` | hum, I don't have plasma - wasn't it systemsettings? |
| 13:22.08 | oneforall | the new setting menu its under the Adnavce tab and desktop settings the classic it Advanced User Setting>Desktop Search |
| 13:22.27 | Tass` | first I need to get the settings menu :D |
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| 13:22.47 | Tass` | could you open one and do an xprop for me? :-) |
| 13:22.59 | Tass` | ah, found it. |
| 13:23.14 | oneforall | K>Setting>System Settings |
| 13:23.36 | SinnerP | what are Kepomuk and Akonadi advantages? what are the drwabacks? |
| 13:23.52 | jakster | Hello, can someone help me with timezones in korganizer (KDE SC 4.4)? |
| 13:24.19 | oneforall | I turn it off because it drags things down and gets so darn anoying all the popups etcc |
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| 13:25.36 | SinnerP | oneforall: will Kontact work after turning off akonadi/nepomuk ? |
| 13:25.56 | oneforall | dunno I don't use it :) |
| 13:26.12 | SinnerP | :/ |
| 13:26.14 | Tass` | SinnerP, akonadi was the storage backend for kontact? |
| 13:26.20 | Tacos | what craxking? |
| 13:26.21 | SinnerP | Tass`: no idea |
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| 13:26.57 | SinnerP | Tass`: I just upgraded to 4.4.0 and found out that Kontact would not run until I installed akonadi, nepomux and several akonadi plugins |
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| 13:31.45 | oneforall | I wonder if its like artsd was. Even though in settings it was turned off, when an app was run it would turn it back on |
| 13:32.13 | oneforall | or just use if and when the apps finished turn it back off ? |
| 13:32.37 | oneforall | if/it |
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| 13:34.51 | Ilgaz | guess what is built on OS X tiger, the OS abandoned by Apple themselves? entire KDE 4 :) |
| 13:34.55 | Ilgaz | thanks guys |
| 13:35.26 | oneforall | hmm I see in ps ax 1984 ? S 1:24 /usr/bin/kontact -sess... its sleeping |
| 13:35.39 | oneforall | 1984 man thats old |
| 13:35.42 | oneforall | :) |
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| 13:50.37 | oneforall | SinnerP yeah I just ran kantact from komsole and it tries to restart akonadi/nepomuk :( |
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| 13:56.58 | tilppis | any idea why kmix's master volume slider doesnt change the volume? |
| 13:57.24 | tilppis | muting for master channel works |
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| 14:00.09 | lliehu | tilppis: you could try changing the master volume slider from kmixer's context menu -> Select master channel... to something else, I guess |
| 14:00.56 | tilppis | but if i mute the current master channel it mutes |
| 14:01.07 | tilppis | so i guess its the right channel |
| 14:01.44 | tilppis | i can change the volume in pulseaudio's options |
| 14:02.06 | lliehu | ok |
| 14:02.59 | lliehu | I don't think I can help |
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| 14:13.05 | tweek- | ##kde |
| 14:13.11 | tweek- | oops :p |
| 14:13.43 | eagles0513875 | twas: ? |
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| 14:13.52 | eagles0513875 | whoops failed tab complete there twas |
| 14:13.55 | eagles0513875 | tweek-: ? |
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| 14:15.18 | tweek- | eagles0513875: nvm was trying to see if there is a ##kde channel and forgot /join |
| 14:15.25 | eagles0513875 | lol |
| 14:15.34 | tweek- | :( |
| 14:15.36 | SinnerP | it could be worst |
| 14:15.38 | eagles0513875 | ya |
| 14:15.51 | SinnerP | tweek- could have been trying to join ##gnome |
| 14:15.55 | eagles0513875 | bleh |
| 14:16.10 | eagles0513875 | but compared to kde on older hardware performance wise gnome aint half bad |
| 14:16.23 | eagles0513875 | for older hardware |
| 14:16.25 | SinnerP | define older hardware |
| 14:16.37 | eagles0513875 | single core processors slower ram in them |
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| 14:16.57 | SinnerP | I'm with a P-4 with 1 GB, and works just fine |
| 14:17.13 | eagles0513875 | u also have hyperthreading probably on ur side |
| 14:17.18 | SinnerP | with kontact, ffox and komodo IDE open all the time |
| 14:17.19 | eagles0513875 | which helps out performance wise to a degree |
| 14:17.42 | eagles0513875 | i find at times though kde to be a bit clunky |
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| 14:17.57 | eagles0513875 | but right now i have it setup on a monster machine quad core 8gb ram hehe and performance is amazing |
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| 14:18.54 | SinnerP | wow! |
| 14:19.11 | eagles0513875 | ya i went a lil all out when i built this machine |
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| 14:19.33 | eagles0513875 | would love to build a new one for a gaming pc while turning this one into a development rig. im going to need one for what im going ot be doing for my thesis |
| 14:19.38 | SinnerP | eagles0513875: what video system do you have? I guess it is not an integrated intel i810 |
| 14:19.43 | eagles0513875 | no |
| 14:19.46 | eagles0513875 | nvidia 8800gt 1gb |
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| 14:20.21 | eagles0513875 | ill brb |
| 14:20.29 | eagles0513875 | need to reboot after upgrading from kubuntu karmic to lucid |
| 14:20.34 | SinnerP | I yet have to try kde 4.4.0 on my "gaming rig" (athlonXP 2000+, 1 GB RAM, nv 7600gt |
| 14:20.44 | eagles0513875 | well once i reboot ill be on 4.4 |
| 14:20.56 | eagles0513875 | im on 4.3.5 at |
| 14:20.57 | SinnerP | ./dcc send eagles0513875 good_luck |
| 14:21.06 | eagles0513875 | hehe SinnerP havent left yet |
| 14:21.21 | eagles0513875 | and i turned of dcc sends cuz kvirc seems to have something buggy with em |
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| 14:21.47 | SinnerP | then do echo "1" > /proc/sys/luck |
| 14:21.53 | eagles0513875 | hehe |
| 14:22.07 | eagles0513875 | wonders how well the oss community would accept what im thinking of doing for my thesis |
| 14:22.08 | eagles0513875 | brb |
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| 14:24.22 | SinnerP | LOL http://ie6funeral.com/ |
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| 14:25.40 | magyar | hi, does okular has a rotate function? |
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| 14:27.04 | QwertyManiac | magyar: it has rotation options for left/right under view menu |
| 14:27.17 | QwertyManiac | View > Orientation |
| 14:27.45 | magyar | QwertyManiac: got it, thank you |
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| 14:30.57 | eagles0513875 | back SinnerP |
| 14:31.04 | eagles0513875 | amarok 2.3 seems a bit buggy |
| 14:31.17 | eagles0513875 | on kubuntu lucid missing some buttons but on the whole 4.4 is really nice :) |
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| 14:31.58 | SinnerP | eagles0513875: how's kontact working for you? |
| 14:32.12 | Schorfi` | SinnerP: http://saveie6.com/ |
| 14:32.27 | eagles0513875 | SinnerP: dont use it tbh |
| 14:32.30 | SinnerP | Schorfi`: yeah, that one is great too :) |
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| 14:32.40 | eagles0513875 | SinnerP: let me see |
| 14:33.13 | SinnerP | eagles0513875: which amarok version are you using? |
| 14:33.38 | eagles0513875 | 2.2.90 = 2.3 |
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| 14:33.47 | eagles0513875 | 2.2.90 in kubuntu lucid |
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| 14:34.04 | SinnerP | I only haev 2.2.2 available |
| 14:34.05 | SinnerP | :/ |
| 14:34.49 | eagles0513875 | what distro SinnerP |
| 14:35.04 | SinnerP | MDV 2010.0 |
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| 14:35.14 | SinnerP | will have to wait for backports |
| 14:35.22 | eagles0513875 | SinnerP: compile from source |
| 14:35.54 | SinnerP | it will be fater to wait |
| 14:35.58 | SinnerP | faster |
| 14:35.59 | SinnerP | :P |
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| 14:38.53 | eagles0513875 | im on lucid development which isnt released yet alpha release |
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| 15:20.23 | kusa | hi |
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| 15:32.48 | eagles0513875 | hey guys does koffice support microsoft office extensions? |
| 15:33.07 | kusa | so i speak yesterday about a little presentation of kde in my classroom |
| 15:33.20 | kusa | and the result is: 3 migration of gnome user into kde ;) |
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| 15:33.55 | urkud | kusa: as for me, win->linux migration is of higher priority ;) |
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| 15:34.42 | urkud | And more interoperability between gnome and kde. |
| 15:35.16 | urkud | (like kwallet<->keyring, kio<->gio) |
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| 15:39.57 | kusa | urkud, they are still on linux ;) |
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| 15:40.25 | kusa | for migration win-> linux, i convert around 10 persons ;) |
| 15:41.09 | eagles0513875 | kusa: i did a presentation in my databases class on linux |
| 15:41.20 | eagles0513875 | and alot of people are starting to experiment with linux in a virtualized environment |
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| 15:41.43 | mplabs | Hello! |
| 15:41.52 | eagles0513875 | HIIII mplabs |
| 15:41.57 | mplabs | I think I have a problem with my KDE since the last upgrade, I can login with my user but it's strange, everything looks normal (I mean, window, programs at the start, and so on) but I don't have any menu or bar, or the K button, nothing about the KDE "base". So I tried reinstalling kdm, kdebase-bin -data and so on, I still have the problem. Any idea ? :| |
| 15:42.01 | mplabs | hey eagles0513875 ! |
| 15:42.21 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: you try restarting x |
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| 15:42.28 | mplabs | many times |
| 15:43.14 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: you try reconfiguring x again |
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| 15:43.45 | mplabs | tell me please, where or how ? |
| 15:44.46 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: what distribution are you on |
| 15:44.52 | mplabs | kubuntu right now |
| 15:45.01 | eagles0513875 | hehe ok :) that i can help you with |
| 15:45.11 | eagles0513875 | just have to remember the command lol |
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| 15:45.13 | mplabs | but I mean.. the problem is just with a part of KDE |
| 15:45.29 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: seems like its an x issue some where i think |
| 15:45.29 | mplabs | because kwin is working ok, I think |
| 15:45.32 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: did you ask in kubuntu |
| 15:45.37 | mplabs | yes |
| 15:45.53 | mplabs | I'm there too, but I don't find the solution there |
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| 15:46.33 | LeeJunFan | Anyone know of a way to disable the phonon notifications that the sound devices changed, asking if you want to forget about them? I admin a public library and users move between different hardware, it's an annoyance. |
| 15:46.41 | mplabs | actually I prefer reinstall KDE, like from scratch but I don't know how |
| 15:47.07 | eagles0513875 | mplabs are you on 9.10 or the alpha 3 of 10.04? |
| 15:47.20 | mplabs | well, since the last upgrade I don't have idea |
| 15:47.21 | mplabs | lol |
| 15:47.29 | mplabs | but yesterday, 9.10 |
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| 15:47.42 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: do uname -a |
| 15:47.46 | eagles0513875 | tell me what kernel version you are on |
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| 15:48.00 | mplabs | Linux localhost 2.6.31-19-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 02:39:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 15:48.14 | mplabs | 2.6.31 o.o |
| 15:48.18 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: thats 9.04 |
| 15:48.24 | eagles0513875 | 9.10 |
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| 15:48.52 | mplabs | that's weird, I won't upgrade anymore (yes, I said the same the last time) u.u |
| 15:49.06 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: try this sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop |
| 15:49.17 | eagles0513875 | that will purge the kde desktop and reinstall the default that comes with kubuntu |
| 15:49.25 | mplabs | :) |
| 15:49.29 | mplabs | ...trying |
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| 15:50.03 | mplabs | that's interesting, I don't have any kubuntu-desktop ! |
| 15:50.11 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: then try install that |
| 15:50.17 | LeeJunFan | eagles0513875: with kubuntu-desktop just being a meta dependancy package I don't think it will purge all KDE packages. |
| 15:50.19 | eagles0513875 | you probably have alot of the individual kde packages missing |
| 15:50.32 | eagles0513875 | LeeJunFan: from what hes telling me now it doesnt seem like he has it installed |
| 15:50.37 | LeeJunFan | yeah, I see that. |
| 15:50.42 | LeeJunFan | you're probably right. |
| 15:50.44 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should install what ever else you have missing |
| 15:51.15 | mplabs | wait, because I'm connected with wicd, but I will remove wicd |
| 15:51.18 | mplabs | I don't want to |
| 15:51.32 | mplabs | but it will remove * |
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| 15:52.03 | mplabs | can I lock this application ? |
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| 15:52.05 | mplabs | or similar ? |
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| 15:52.19 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: you wired |
| 15:52.22 | eagles0513875 | or wireless |
| 15:52.28 | mplabs | it has a conflic with the default network manager that kubuntu-desktop want to install |
| 15:52.32 | mplabs | but I want to keep wicd |
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| 15:52.45 | eagles0513875 | are you connected via wireless |
| 15:52.49 | mplabs | yes |
| 15:53.02 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: then i cant help if u wanna install the individual kde packages :( |
| 15:53.12 | mplabs | not, I just want to keep wicd |
| 15:53.14 | eagles0513875 | what packages did you say you installed already mplabs |
| 15:53.22 | mplabs | but it has conflicts with the default network manager |
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| 15:53.33 | eagles0513875 | kubuntu-desktop is a meta package of a bunch of other packages for the default kde setup on kubuntu |
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| 15:53.50 | mplabs | ok, so can I lock this application ? |
| 15:54.19 | eagles0513875 | not that i know of again best to ask in kubuntu i have never had problems funnily enough with the default network manager in regards to wifi |
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| 15:54.52 | mplabs | ok, anyway I can reinstall it later |
| 15:55.00 | mplabs | so I will try |
| 15:55.05 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: ok |
| 15:55.16 | mplabs | :) |
| 15:55.18 | mplabs | brb |
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| 16:02.51 | mplabs | eagles0513875, thank you a lot ! |
| 16:02.53 | mplabs | :) |
| 16:02.59 | mplabs | it fixed the problem :) |
| 16:03.19 | eagles0513875 | :) mplabs no problem u were almost there reinstalling the packages u were missing a few |
| 16:03.35 | mplabs | :) |
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| 16:06.52 | eagles0513875 | mplabs: glad i helped u get it fixed :) |
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| 16:37.53 | kaddi | Hi, |
| 16:38.34 | kaddi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:42.19 | urkud | which phonon backend do you use? |
| 16:42.28 | urkud | which distro? |
| 16:43.08 | kaddi | urkud: distro is kubuntu (karmic, 64bit). The backend showing in systemsettings ->multimedia is xine |
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| 16:45.44 | urkud | Which output device? |
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| 16:46.24 | kaddi | urkud: hda intel? Could that be right? |
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| 16:47.35 | urkud | Yes, this could be right. |
| 16:47.43 | urkud | Is pulseaudio running? |
| 16:48.10 | kaddi | urkud: no, i believe i have uninstalled all pulseaudio packages (i did a sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio-*) |
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| 16:49.35 | urkud | OK. |
| 16:49.48 | urkud | ls -l /dev/snd |
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| 16:50.43 | urkud | What happens when you press "test" button in settings->multimedia? |
| 16:50.50 | kaddi | urkud: http://pastebin.com/N2QLC7PP |
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| 16:51.48 | kaddi | urkud: when i run kdesudo systemsettings and press test I get sound, when i run just systemsettings I get no sound |
| 16:54.00 | urkud | groups |
| 16:54.15 | kaddi | I'm in the audio group, one sec |
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| 16:54.48 | kaddi | kaddi@marge:~/FF_Downloads$ fgrep -ie 'audio' /etc/group |
| 16:54.49 | kaddi | audio:x:29:pulse,test,kaddi |
| 16:55.32 | kaddi | Do I need to be in another group as well to be able to play sound ? |
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| 16:57.45 | kaddi | urkud: if it's of any value: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav works for example |
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| 17:00.28 | Gentoochild | hi there. can you tell me what I need to do in order to have KOrganizer show holidays in 4.4? |
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| 17:00.53 | annma | it's in Settings |
| 17:00.55 | Gentoochild | I already found out that the files of libkholidays are now in kdepimlib |
| 17:01.07 | Gentoochild | I've looked through settings up and down and down and up :-/ |
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| 17:01.38 | Gentoochild | then I tried to import the holiday file via file -> import, but it said it couldnât load the file |
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| 17:02.38 | Gentoochild | can you specify where in settings, please? |
| 17:02.57 | urkud | "Date and Time" |
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| 17:03.18 | Gentoochild | ahhh |
| 17:03.19 | Gentoochild | =) |
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| 17:03.41 | Gentoochild | hides pretty neatly :o) I was looking for a checkbox |
| 17:03.54 | Gentoochild | so I could display several regionsâ holidays at once |
| 17:04.19 | Gentoochild | thanks anyway |
| 17:04.51 | urkud | kaddi: strange. |
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| 17:04.58 | urkud | Does xine-ui work? |
| 17:04.58 | kaddi | urkud: i know :s |
| 17:05.23 | kaddi | urkud: installing now |
| 17:06.52 | kaddi | urkud: the command is xine, yes? If so xine plays sound fine. |
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| 17:08.32 | urkud | Strange. Ask on #phonon |
| 17:08.45 | urkud | I don't know how to debug it properly |
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| 17:09.55 | kaddi | will do, thx for trying :) |
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| 17:27.16 | eagles0513875 | hey guys i got a question what is the name of the widget where it loads all the normal start up programs into |
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| 17:32.00 | neverendingo | eagles0513875: folderview, pointed to ~/Desktop, if i get what you mean |
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| 17:32.43 | eagles0513875 | neverendingo: u know how on windows for ex you have the icons like the mixer and other icons that start up after logging in i kinda accidentally removed that widget and i dunno the name of it to put it back |
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| 17:33.08 | neverendingo | eagles0513875: ah, system tray |
| 17:33.12 | p1mrx | in KDE 4.4, why do all my desktop icons have [+] / [-] toggles on them? |
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| 17:33.34 | gmartyn | p1mrx: so you can use the mouse to select them one at a time |
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| 17:33.47 | eagles0513875 | neverendingo: thats what its called ? |
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| 17:34.28 | eagles0513875 | ty neverendingo :) |
| 17:34.32 | eagles0513875 | locked it so it dont happen again |
| 17:34.35 | Gentoochild | p1mrx: those are selectors |
| 17:34.41 | Gentoochild | you can disable them in the applet's settings |
| 17:34.45 | Gentoochild | AFAIK |
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| 17:35.36 | p1mrx | ah, now it seems to highlight an icon when I click the (+). I could've sworn that wasn't happening before. |
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| 17:42.51 | Gentoochild | i believe hat was a new feature in 4.4 |
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| 18:05.01 | kriko | http://danielkitta.org/blog/2010/02/25/why-i-hate-qt/ |
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| 18:35.11 | buntfalke | which tool can be use to annotate and comment PDFs (except okular)? |
| 18:35.25 | pinotree | free software? |
| 18:35.35 | buntfalke | preferably |
| 18:35.40 | pinotree | none |
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| 18:36.34 | buntfalke | okular is still kinda in of...well. basics are there, but it's not very every day usage yet..hmmm |
| 18:37.09 | buntfalke | .oO(...why did I write such a broken sentence?!...) |
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| 18:38.09 | buntfalke | it doesnt save changes to .okular documents inplace, neither asks to save upon quitting, unselects the annotation tool upon usage, lacks a possibility to alter the default color of the "yellow line" "green pen" and whatever |
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| 18:54.13 | phoenix__ | i have a problem in kget can anyone help me |
| 18:55.54 | buntfalke_ | phoenix__: describe it and ask the actual question |
| 18:55.54 | buntfalke | phoenix__: you never need to ask to ask |
| 18:55.54 | phoenix__ | in kget the download list columns are missing and i am not able to see the list |
| 18:55.54 | phoenix__ | i will paste the snapshot |
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| 18:57.01 | phoenix__ | http://imagebin.org/86483 |
| 18:57.28 | phoenix__ | ok.that is the snapshot of kget missing the list |
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| 18:58.06 | phoenix__ | when i download a file, it shows the download percentage in the window title and nothing else |
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| 18:59.16 | phoenix__ | buntfalke: are you there |
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| 19:00.20 | phoenix__ | everyone is busy |
| 19:00.22 | buntfalke | hmmm....tried rightclicking on that white space where the list should be? i dunno kget but that might allow you to reenable that...checked the settings, too? seems odd... |
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| 19:01.59 | phoenix__ | no right click menu available |
| 19:02.28 | phoenix__ | is there any global shortcut keys to change the view of a list control |
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| 19:04.54 | Sho_ | phoenix__: might be some sort of installation problem ⦠the component that provides the missing piece not being foundor so |
| 19:05.18 | phoenix__ | buntfalke: i reinstalled it several times.but the setting of the programs doesnt change when reinstalling it. is there anyother way to delete the settings of the programs |
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| 19:07.16 | phoenix__ | Sho_: is there a way to remove the setting of the kget |
| 19:07.47 | buntfalke | phoenix__: look into ~/.kde |
| 19:08.02 | phoenix__ | ok i will try that |
| 19:08.04 | buntfalke | move the relevant files away, test it, if it fails, move them back to retain your settings and data |
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| 19:08.38 | phoenix__ | ok |
| 19:09.57 | phoenix__ | buntfalke: the folder is empty |
| 19:10.25 | buntfalke | phoenix__: ~/.kde is empty? check for ~/.kde4 or so then |
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| 19:10.35 | buntfalke | it should never be empty |
| 19:10.42 | phoenix__ | ok |
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| 19:12.25 | phoenix__ | buntfalke: i found a file named kgetrc |
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| 19:13.04 | buntfalke | phoenix__: then move it away, try again, and see if that helps (not very likely, but who knows...) you should also start kget from a terminal and check it's output there for errors |
| 19:13.27 | phoenix__ | buntfalke: ok,i will try it |
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| 19:15.36 | phoenix__ | buntfalke: problem solved. |
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| 19:15.54 | phoenix__ | buntfalke: thanks a lot |
| 19:16.43 | buntfalke | phoenix__: how? what caused it? |
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| 19:18.20 | phoenix__ | buntfalke: i removed the setting file from the ./kde and started the kget, it started like the first run |
| 19:19.01 | buntfalke | hmm. strange, but as long as it works again... :-) |
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| 19:20.51 | phoenix__ | ya.what is the browser that you are using |
| 19:20.56 | git__ | anyone know what's replacing QHTTP class? |
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| 19:21.41 | git__ | QHttp class is a really nice class, yet Qt decides to make it obsolete |
| 19:22.14 | pinotree | git__: #qt |
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| 19:22.25 | Qvintvs | whenver I enable compositing window resizing becomes incredibly slow. is there a particular effect cuasing this I can disable or it is realted to compositing in general? |
| 19:22.35 | Sho_ | git__: QNetworkAccessManager / QNetworkReply, but if you're writing a KDE app use KIO for HTTP |
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| 19:27.13 | git__ | thanks Sho_ |
| 19:27.47 | Half-Left | Qvintvs: Qt I think. I heard it doesn't optimally accelerate but it's most likely a mix of drivers and Qt. |
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| 19:29.30 | Qvintvs | Half-Left: hm, meh. k. I really like all the other composting effects... dont really want to disable them all cause of resizing. I guess I'll live with it. |
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| 19:29.55 | Sho_ | Qvintvs: The root problem is related to compositing in general. |
| 19:30.33 | Qvintvs | does it happen even if you're using an nvidia card? I assumed it was due in part to my ati card |
| 19:30.40 | Sho_ | Qvintvs: In a composited desktop, window contents get put into off-screen memory buffers rather than drawn to framebuffer directly. The reason resizing is slow because changes in size of that buffer are expensive. |
| 19:30.41 | Half-Left | Yep |
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| 19:31.26 | Qvintvs | Sho_: oh, I see |
| 19:31.31 | Sho_ | Qvintvs: Various implementation techniques mitigate that to various degress, but the basic reason there's a difference to start with is because compositing poses a problem there you don't have to solve without compositing. |
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| 19:34.17 | Half-Left | Sho_: Other compositing managers have very smooth window resizing though. |
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| 19:36.45 | Sho_ | Half-Left: It's certainly possible that Qt or kwin still need some improvements there or that there are complexities in the particular interaction between those and the video driver (which also plays a big role) still aren't optimal or so |
| 19:37.19 | Sho_ | doesn't have a fine-grained view into the state of things around resizing atm, just the high-level view |
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| 19:38.07 | SinnerP | 4.4.0 seeems to be faster than 4.3.2 |
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| 19:39.30 | Sho_ | Most distros are rolling out Qt 4.6 together with KDE 4.4 (since KDE 4.4 requires it but 4.3 didn't) and that has a fair amount of performance improvements here and there |
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| 19:52.37 | tilppis | why cant i change the icon of wine program(spotify) via menu-editor? |
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| 19:58.04 | buntfalke | If I select global availability mode "online/offline/..." how to let kopete ensure this mode is kept until it's changed? if the network is lost, no reconnections are done if one of the accounts remains online - that's bad :-) |
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| 20:10.07 | Ender2070 | fedora 12 for example :) |
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| 20:41.33 | soa2ii | When is konqueror going to use webkit instead of khtml? |
| 20:42.02 | thiago_home | anytime between july and 2015 |
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| 20:42.59 | sreich | july of 2025, that is |
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| 20:43.37 | thiago_home | soa2ii: seriously, it's not decided if it will happen |
| 20:43.40 | thiago_home | much less when |
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| 20:43.48 | soa2ii | thiago_home: Oh. |
| 20:43.53 | soa2ii | Why's that? |
| 20:44.00 | soa2ii | I thought it is for sure. |
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| 20:44.50 | thiago_home | I can't prove a negative |
| 20:45.01 | thiago_home | if it had been decided, I could tell you why |
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| 21:00.55 | cedwards | I'm wondering if there is a good way to set the default size for a Konsole window. |
| 21:01.11 | thiago_home | close it before in the size you want it to have |
| 21:01.25 | thiago_home | or start with -geometry NNNNxNNNN |
| 21:01.28 | cedwards | I have tried the Advanced > Special Application Settings, and that works for the first instance, but once that one has changed all future windows follow. |
| 21:02.23 | cedwards | my normal workflow is one maximized console (irssi), but I'd like subsequent konsoles to use a smaller geometry for quick commands, etc. |
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| 21:03.14 | Sho_ | Maybe Yakuake would float your boat .. |
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| 21:04.12 | cedwards | Sho_: perhaps.. |
| 21:04.40 | cedwards | I would have thought Special Application Settings would apply to this, but I guess it doesn't cover a per-instance |
| 21:05.17 | Sho_ | That's kinda what I do. I tend to use Konsole for fullscreen tasks, and Yakuake for quick commands, or background tasks or monitoring something. |
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| 21:07.07 | cedwards | Sho_: do you use the default keybinding? F12 seems a little out of the way.. |
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| 21:08.00 | cedwards | I think my only complaint with yakuake over a konsole is the latter is easier to move out of the way as needed. |
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| 21:09.04 | Sho_ | cedwards: No, I use Ctrl+the key to the left of the 1 key (°/^ on a German layout) |
| 21:09.20 | Sho_ | cedwards: I have Yakuake configured so it auto-closes when it loses focus |
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| 21:10.41 | cedwards | well I open want to refer to something in another window or browser, and enter content into the terminal. |
| 21:11.24 | Sho_ | You could make the terminal background a bit translucent, maybe |
| 21:11.33 | cedwards | with a small (80x32) konsole I can easily place it to accomodate that. yakuake can be moved., but not easily. |
| 21:11.45 | leo_rockway | cedwards: system settings > look and feel > window behaviour > window specific would let you change the geometry |
| 21:12.17 | Sho_ | cedwards: Yeah, I actually want to add the ability to reposition and resize it by dragging/pulling on the title bar (I develop Yakuake) |
| 21:12.18 | leo_rockway | MarcoPau: for middle mouse button paste you change the config in klipper |
| 21:12.45 | leo_rockway | Sho_: is there a way to have yakuake appear from the bottom of the screen? |
| 21:12.55 | cedwards | Sho_: if it were easy to just drag it to a different screen-edge that'd even be a step in the right direction. |
| 21:12.57 | Sho_ | leo_rockway: nope |
| 21:13.21 | leo_rockway | Sho_: okay, thanks. |
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| 21:13.32 | Axtroz | Using KDE 4.4 from source // Is it possible to 'force' Lancelot app launcher to remain open constantly |
| 21:14.01 | cedwards | leo_rockway: I have a profile defined for Konsole in there now, and it applies my geometry initially. The problem is I maximize one instance and then the geometry profile no longer applies. |
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| 21:14.59 | leo_rockway | cedwards: oh, okay |
| 21:15.31 | xxtjaxx | Hi everyone What is the diffrence between "package manager"- and "end user install" - mode ? |
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| 21:18.23 | xxtjaxx | in the windows installer |
| 21:19.28 | urkud | xxtjaxx: go to #kde-windows |
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| 21:19.52 | xxtjaxx | ok |
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| 21:24.06 | Donnerkind | Sho_: thanks for the Ctrl+^. I tried to get used to Pause key, but I always hit Print *g* |
| 21:24.27 | Donnerkind | Iâd like to free F12, because thatâs unchangeably used by blender |
| 21:25.23 | leo_rockway | Gentoochild: render! |
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| 21:26.27 | Gentoochild | indeed |
| 21:28.10 | Gentoochild | hm.. doesnât work. I guess it bites with my dead keys setup |
| 21:28.27 | Gentoochild | ahrgh, I canât open it again ^^ |
| 21:28.37 | Gentoochild | now what |
| 21:29.10 | Gentoochild | ha! kdcop should do the trick |
| 21:30.19 | thiago_home | that's KDE3 |
| 21:30.25 | Gentoochild | yeah, noticed |
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| 21:30.32 | Gentoochild | I reset it using system settings -> gloval shortcuts |
| 21:30.42 | Gentoochild | Iâm trying Ctrl+Tab now |
| 21:30.54 | Gentoochild | how that fits into the workflow |
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| 21:31.18 | Gentoochild | ah crap, thatâs for switching tabs |
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| 21:45.36 | DavidFreeman | Hi. I have a fresh installation of Fedora 12 on a laptop (still using my Fedora 11 /home/$USER directory) and have noticed that the volume buttons are not working. Although pressing them *does* bring up the volume control widget, they have no effect on the audio level. I observe that in 'systemsettings', the Multimedia=> sound section has no entries for PulseAudio, but only "Internal Audio Analog Stereo". 'pulseaudio' is running |
| 21:45.36 | DavidFreeman | Any ideas about getting my hardware volume control buttons to work? |
| 21:47.17 | urkud | I think it's better to ask on #phonon |
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| 21:51.18 | phoenix__ | is there a way to get new desktop effects in kubuntu |
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| 21:55.31 | Half-Left | phoenix__: Nope, unless someone has written some extra ones but I don't think there are any |
| 21:56.43 | phoenix__ | what about compiz |
| 21:57.00 | Half-Left | Ask them |
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| 21:57.09 | phoenix__ | can it be used |
| 21:57.29 | thiago_home | you can use compiz |
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| 21:58.31 | phoenix__ | does it conflict with any soft in kubuntu |
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| 22:12.57 | o_a | How do I access a shared plasmoid? |
| 22:13.00 | evaryont | any way to make the spacer completley transparent? I don't like having a black-ish/grey bar in the middle of my panel |
| 22:13.49 | Thinkerer68 | Where do I put SSL certs (CRT files) for Konversation to use? I'm on Kubuntu 8.04. |
| 22:15.39 | prefrontal_ | hey i just pressed some insane zooming keyboard shortcut and now my desktop is zoomed in |
| 22:15.45 | prefrontal_ | i have to pan around my desktop..how do I undo this |
| 22:16.30 | thiago_home | at the top right, there should be something for the zooming out option |
| 22:16.52 | prefrontal_ | i disabled/enabled all desktop effects and that worked..:) |
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| 23:06.33 | dadada | hello |
| 23:06.45 | dadada | do you know of any way to get a list of last used programs in linux/kde? |
| 23:07.30 | urkud | There is a list of programs that you've last started from start menu |
| 23:07.38 | dadada | where? |
| 23:07.45 | urkud | In start menu ;) |
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| 23:07.49 | urkud | Recently Used |
| 23:07.54 | urkud | Which KDE version? |
| 23:08.04 | dadada | yeah, I was asking because I want to use it in a script |
| 23:08.09 | dadada | 4.4.0 |
| 23:08.28 | urkud | You haven't told about this |
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| 23:08.36 | dadada | sorray |
| 23:09.06 | urkud | (btw, lancelot has now "recently used programs") |
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| 23:10.25 | dadada | urkud: did you mean recently used documents or is that saparate? |
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| 23:11.46 | urkud | That is separate. I have no classic start menu atm |
| 23:11.49 | urkud | So can't check |
| 23:12.32 | dadada | ^^ |
| 23:12.51 | urkud | Sorry, too sleepy. Go to bed. |
| 23:13.10 | urkud | As I've told, lancelot has no "recently used programs" |
| 23:13.30 | urkud | And there is no central location |
| 23:13.39 | urkud | AFAIK |
| 23:14.33 | dadada | K, THANK YOU |
| 23:14.42 | dadada | good night |
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| 23:20.00 | scorpius_ | how can I do what 'alt+f4' does from commanline? |
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| 23:22.55 | sreich | scorpius_: dbus probably |
| 23:23.18 | sreich | could tell the k/q/application to quit |
| 23:23.24 | sreich | or window to close, whichever |
| 23:23.57 | urkud | Or kill the process with `kill` |
| 23:24.19 | sreich | although that would be more violent, I presume |
| 23:24.25 | lliehu | what about kwuitapp? |
| 23:24.30 | lliehu | *kquitapp |
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| 23:24.33 | sreich | sigTERM would probably be better |
| 23:24.53 | sreich | lliehu: yep. that's all kquitapp does, is ask it to quit via dbus |
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| 23:25.29 | lliehu | sreich: okay, I thought so, but couldn't get any info on it by google, techbase or userbase |
| 23:25.34 | scorpius_ | no! kill is different from Alt+F4, does something different |
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| 23:26.10 | sreich | scorpius_: if you send sigkill, then it is different |
| 23:26.29 | urkud | sreich: sigterm is also different |
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| 23:26.37 | urkud | an app can have many windows |
| 23:26.46 | urkud | alt+f4 close one of them |
| 23:26.52 | urkud | kill -sigterm close all |
| 23:27.00 | sreich | ah okay, I don't use alt-f4 |
| 23:27.32 | urkud | alt-f4 is "close current window" |
| 23:27.33 | sreich | so scorpius_ would not want kquitapp then, rather ask e.g. KMain_Window1 to close for said dbus service |
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| 23:29.58 | scorpius_ | even for one window, alt+f4 and sigterm is different (try firefox, when you restart firefox, you notice sigterm ends it abruptly, alt+f4 not) |
| 23:30.32 | scorpius_ | I 'think' I like kquitapp, but don't know how to use it |
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| 23:31.59 | lliehu | scorpius: kquitapp application, where application is the name of the application to quit, like kquitapp plasma-destop etc. |
| 23:32.50 | scorpius_ | (this is on KDE 3.5) |
| 23:32.55 | sreich | scorpius_: it quits the application, if that is what you want |
| 23:32.56 | sreich | oh. |
| 23:32.58 | lliehu | ah |
| 23:33.05 | sreich | in which case dbus doesn't exist, rather dcop. |
| 23:33.06 | lliehu | dcop, anyone? |
| 23:34.56 | lliehu | scorpius_: does dcop [app] quit work? |
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| 23:36.07 | sam__ | Where can I join KDE devel? |
| 23:36.35 | scorpius_ | kquitapp firefox |
| 23:36.36 | scorpius_ | <unknown program name>(31581)/: Application "firefox" could not be found using service "org.kde.firefox" and path "/MainApplication" . |
| 23:36.49 | lliehu | kquitapp only works for kde apps |
| 23:36.58 | lliehu | kde4 apps I think |
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| 23:37.30 | urkud | scorpius_: Why kill/killall is bad for you? |
| 23:38.17 | scorpius_ | urkud: try kill/killall firefox, and try alt+f4 of a firefox window, restart firefox, and you will notice |
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| 23:43.27 | scorpius_ | no one can help me, I am depressed |
| 23:43.57 | lliehu | well, sorry. I'm trying to find something, but without success |
| 23:44.20 | sreich | well, if you were using kde4, we could help you ;-) |
| 23:44.32 | sreich | other than that, there are not many people using 3.. |
| 23:45.01 | lliehu | sreich: how would using kde 4 help? do you know a way to close a non-kde app in kde 4 programmatically? |
| 23:45.21 | sreich | oh. a non-kde app? |
| 23:45.26 | lliehu | firefox it seems |
| 23:45.29 | scorpius_ | firefox |
| 23:45.53 | sreich | agh. no. |
| 23:45.58 | sreich | grumbles about firefox.. |
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| 23:46.18 | lliehu | if only firefox handled sigterm nicely and would shut itself down correctly |
| 23:46.30 | sreich | if only firefox conformed to gnome, at least... |
| 23:47.04 | sreich | actually, not sure if gnome apps expose window functions to dbus even. |
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| 23:49.37 | scorpius_ | from commandline, is there a way to make a window 'current', and then to issue an alt+f4 keypress (like in a macro)? |
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| 23:50.21 | notatoy | i'm getting a small bug. |
| 23:51.24 | lliehu | scorpius_: OI was actually wondering if kwin would have dcop commands for getting list of windows, then one could select one and then issue kwin to close it, but I don't know if such commands exist |
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| 23:51.40 | scorpius_ | that is, grab the window by its name ('firefox') [then I have macrorec/macroplay to issue a alt+f4) |
| 23:51.50 | sreich | lliehu: heh. was thinking the same. doesn't seem to have any exposed to dbus |
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| 23:55.03 | lliehu | scorpius_: do you get same problems when using kill with sigint or sighup or something else with firefox? I guess it's worth a try at least |
| 23:55.22 | lliehu | I don't know anything about that macro stuff |
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| 23:59.22 | scorpius_ | yes, sigint, sighup also kill firefox abruptly instead of nicely |