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| 00:07.55 | qqqqqqqqq9 | Hi, how do set the umask used dolphin uses? |
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| 00:36.24 | jzmer | is there a branch of konq that uses webkit? |
| 00:37.18 | Half-Left | no |
| 00:37.27 | Half-Left | It can use it though |
| 00:38.08 | jzmer | Half-Left: but where is it in the svn though? |
| 00:38.29 | pinotree | trunk/playground/libs/webkitkde |
| 00:38.51 | jzmer | thanks. i will look into that. |
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| 00:40.45 | jzmer | btw, i just found http://gitorious.org/rekonq |
| 00:40.58 | pinotree | that's not konqueror |
| 00:41.07 | pinotree | that's just another browser |
| 00:41.15 | bronze | Hi al - I'm running KDE3, using konsole, and I want auto-magically rename konsole tabs to the file or dir I'm in/working on. Is there a way to do this by a script? |
| 00:42.31 | jzmer | pinotree: i guess you could say so, yet it comes with webkit though. |
| 00:43.33 | pinotree | ... ? |
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| 00:56.20 | reavertm | that webkitkpart works pretty well with 4.4 (not worse than khtml) |
| 00:56.28 | mbana | how do i clear recently used documents |
| 00:56.54 | Half-Left | Right click on one |
| 00:57.18 | mbana | ok thanks |
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| 01:00.11 | Frederick | can anyone here provide me a small help tweaking a superkaramba theme? |
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| 01:04.00 | Half-Left | 4.3.5 is out :) |
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| 01:06.16 | *** topic/#kde by pinotree -> KDE SC 4.3.5 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://pastebin.ca | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 01:06.31 | pinotree | thanks Half-Left |
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| 01:10.00 | mbana | im using kubuntu, why does the forward and back buttons on my mouse work on the file browser? |
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| 01:12.13 | Fanfare | mbana: because they are mapped to global fwd/back shortcuts? just a guess... |
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| 01:13.31 | sreich | Fanfare: not global, afik |
| 01:13.39 | sreich | I think Dolphin sets in manually, iirc.. |
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| 01:18.20 | Fanfare | hm, i would use xev to see what those buttons trigger... |
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| 01:23.38 | oneforall | weird when I right click on kmix and click the "show mixer window" it will just show the pcm till I cklick that mixer button to get the full window O.o |
| 01:24.02 | oneforall | even double clicking the widget now it just opens the slider part |
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| 01:30.02 | marcosRz | guys any way to allow html on a single email on kmail? |
| 01:30.37 | Fanfare | oneforall: confirmed! 4.4.RC2 |
| 01:31.26 | oneforall | lol thanks I'm still on rc1 . But I will be doing rc2 soon:) |
| 01:31.35 | Fanfare | marcosRz: ? sending a single htmlmail? |
| 01:31.46 | thrice` | oneforall, better wait, rc3 will be out in a couple days :> |
| 01:31.50 | marcosRz | nah Fanfare actually see a mail in html, but not enable by default |
| 01:32.10 | marcosRz | I want html disabled by default, but allow me to enable for a determined msg or whatever, something like sudo |
| 01:32.19 | marcosRz | a sudo of emaiils xD |
| 01:32.24 | Fanfare | marcosRz: every html mail schows a link like see html mail klick here... |
| 01:32.32 | thrice` | right click -> show mixer brings up my master on rc2 |
| 01:33.47 | marcosRz | http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7854/imagem2ks.png |
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| 01:36.48 | Fanfare | marcosRz: ok, try clicking on the htmlpart of the message in the message struckture at the bottom |
| 01:37.14 | Fanfare | thats a digitally signed message? |
| 01:37.26 | marcosRz | yes |
| 01:37.28 | marcosRz | by me |
| 01:37.30 | marcosRz | lol |
| 01:37.45 | marcosRz | I sign all my msg |
| 01:38.13 | Fanfare | maybe thats the prob as iirc htmlmails produce a similar frame... |
| 01:41.27 | marcosRz | so you can enable? |
| 01:41.34 | marcosRz | can you send me a screenshot whre you click toenable html |
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| 01:45.06 | Fanfare | marcosRz: searching for html mails... |
| 01:45.37 | marcosRz | the only way for me to see html is to enable html for all |
| 01:45.39 | marcosRz | I wanted a option |
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| 01:47.36 | Fanfare | !imagepaste |
| 01:47.53 | Fanfare | !pastebin |
| 01:49.51 | Fanfare | marcosRz: http://imagebin.org/82065 ok, no border... |
| 01:50.27 | Fanfare | see the blue >hier< |
| 01:50.34 | marcosRz | hm |
| 01:50.38 | marcosRz | i don't have that |
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| 01:52.27 | therealpxc | how can one manually start nepomuk-strigi indexing? |
| 01:53.28 | Fanfare | marcosRz: in the settings there is Appearance > messagewindow > HTML-Status |
| 01:53.42 | therealpxc | to clarify: I have nepomuk enabled, as well as strigi search, and the nepomukstrigiservice is running, but the status is idle. How can I say "index now!"? |
| 01:54.42 | marcosRz | damn kmail |
| 01:55.31 | Half-Left | therealpxc: are there any nepomukstub processes running? |
| 01:56.18 | marcosRz | I found |
| 01:57.32 | therealpxc | Half-Left: aye. by "nepomukstrigiservice", I meant "nepomukservicestub nepomukstrigiservice". It's working fine, but it's trying to be nice to me by not indexing while I'm using the machine (it's idling). The thing is I want it to index anyway, and it's still just idling. |
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| 01:58.15 | Half-Left | therealpxc: What makes you think it hasn't finished indexing? |
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| 01:59.36 | therealpxc | Half-Left: searching for the content of numerous files (plain text) doesn't bring them up as a result |
| 02:00.06 | Half-Left | Where are you searching from? |
| 02:00.28 | therealpxc | I've searched from dolphin & krunner |
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| 02:00.44 | clarjon1 | i've not figured out how to search from dolphin yet lol |
| 02:01.06 | Fanfare | marcosRz: ok, i did send a htmlmail to myself... kmail sends a correctly formatted mail holding the playn message and the html message u have to click the htmlpart in the lower message struckture.. |
| 02:01.13 | clarjon1 | other than default find file :P |
| 02:01.19 | marcosRz | yeah |
| 02:01.20 | therealpxc | if it were indexing, it would find those files quickly: regular old strigidaemon adds the same items to its index in under a minute, and can be searched using strigiclient |
| 02:01.23 | marcosRz | I got that Fanfare |
| 02:01.25 | marcosRz | thanks \o/ |
| 02:01.31 | clarjon1 | oh |
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| 02:01.33 | clarjon1 | found it |
| 02:01.35 | Half-Left | therealpxc: KDE version? |
| 02:01.58 | clarjon1 | oh sweet |
| 02:02.02 | clarjon1 | this is perfect :D |
| 02:03.23 | therealpxc | Half-Left: 4.4rc2, which I should've mentioned earlier. Again, I don't think anything is malfunctioning. I'm just wondering if there are more granular/instant controls for the nepomuk-strigi service. |
| 02:04.02 | Half-Left | therealpxc: It seems to be a 4.4 issue, I've never got it to find files but krunner does |
| 02:05.18 | therealpxc | Half-Left: krunner does? What runners do you have that search the filesystem other than via nepomuk? |
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| 02:05.37 | Half-Left | krunner can search nepouk files |
| 02:05.44 | Half-Left | nepomuk* |
| 02:06.56 | Half-Left | In other words; Krunner has a Nepomuk runner :) |
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| 02:08.17 | therealpxc | Half-Left: right. I've searched using that at gotten no results either. So there's no command to change the indexing policy permanently or temporary? the thing is that with laptops, the machine is generally either off or in use, so there's no idle time for a "smart" indexer to take advantage of |
| 02:09.56 | Half-Left | therealpxc: Well you won't get results if you haven't tagged any files |
| 02:12.36 | Half-Left | therealpxc: Try tagged a file by adding a comment or tag and then search for it in the krunner. You can use Dolphin's info panel to do that. |
| 02:12.42 | therealpxc | Half-Left: oh, oh... bare nepomuk, not nepomuk's strigi service. Gotcha. I'll probably end up tagging things as time goes on, but strigi would be a bit more significant at the moment, since I already have a highly organized filestructure. |
| 02:12.45 | Half-Left | tagging* |
| 02:12.50 | therealpxc | Half-Left: will do :) |
| 02:13.48 | Half-Left | I'm not sure what's going on in 4.4 with Strigi. It used used to work fine in 4.3 within Dolphin's search |
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| 02:15.31 | Half-Left | -one used :p |
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| 02:17.44 | therealpxc | Half-Left: that much works for me, too. Weirdly, the search results show correctly in dolphin if I do it from krunner, but if I do the search from dolphin I get "invalid protocol" |
| 02:17.49 | therealpxc | anyhow, I'm outta here |
| 02:17.55 | therealpxc | gotta get some work done lol |
| 02:17.58 | therealpxc | thanks! :) |
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| 02:33.01 | johnny69 | Hello Kde people... Bear with me and I'll try to explain this as well as I can. It's a little hard to describe. Going back to kde 3.5.x I was able to configure a small window such as the kopete contact list as a, "Utility window". This would change the behavior so that when I hit, "show desktop - minimize all" it would keep the window in question ON the desktop. Thus molding the window into the background so to speak. Note |
| 02:33.03 | johnny69 | this isn't the same as "keeb above all windows". Forcing it to be a UTILITY window had this effect. AS of KDe4 it isn't happening now. |
| 02:33.24 | johnny69 | (Kde 4.3x/Suse 11.2) Thank you. |
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| 02:36.35 | johnny69 | - note: if you right click on the window in question this can be found under "configure window behavior". The utlity option is still there as of kde4 but doesn't seem to have any effect. Thanks again. |
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| 02:51.57 | Dhraakellian | okay, on my netbook, I'm trying to get all main windows to open maximized and borderless. This I can do. The hard part is getting Yakuake to act as normal despite this |
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| 02:57.17 | mbostwick | hello, when I try to connect with krdc I am unable to connect to the remote desktop because I must provide a password to start off with because I am connecting to a vm which uses pam, is there a way with krdc to make it usee the password at first ? I am able to connect with rdesktop -u michael -p PASSWORD 192.168.2.101:3389 |
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| 03:12.55 | seme | wow |
| 03:12.56 | seme | sweet |
| 03:13.00 | seme | I'm running kde on windows |
| 03:13.02 | seme | how cool is that |
| 03:13.04 | seme | :) |
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| 03:27.41 | chilifinger | how do you change kde's menu to display name(comment) instead of comment(name)? |
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| 03:30.22 | chilifinger | anyone? |
| 03:31.00 | thrice` | name (comment) is the default |
| 03:31.44 | chilifinger | hum, not for me. |
| 03:32.02 | chilifinger | anyway, do you know how to change it? |
| 03:32.43 | thrice` | sorry, no. which distro? |
| 03:33.26 | chilifinger | arch |
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| 03:50.09 | odin_ | is there a command I can use to make Konqueror open a new tab for a given URL and then move the window to the current desktop and raise it ? |
| 03:50.31 | mbostwick | Dose anyone have any advice on making krdc prompt for a password before it connects ? with rdesktop I just add -p - |
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| 03:52.49 | vatgas | hellp |
| 03:52.52 | vatgas | hello |
| 03:53.07 | vatgas | is there anybody there ? |
| 03:53.19 | vatgas | o_O |
| 03:53.30 | mbostwick | seems like everyones sleeping |
| 03:53.36 | vatgas | yep |
| 03:54.02 | vatgas | anyway you're here :D |
| 03:54.16 | vatgas | maybe you can help me ? |
| 03:54.45 | vatgas | or not |
| 03:55.15 | clarjon1 | vatgas: noone will know if they can help until you ask the question |
| 03:55.20 | vatgas | ok |
| 03:55.26 | vatgas | so |
| 03:55.39 | vatgas | I'm trying to change the resolution of kdm |
| 03:55.59 | vatgas | forums giving me answers of ols kdm (3.x) |
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| 03:56.08 | vatgas | but can't find anything for 4.x |
| 03:56.31 | vatgas | also it seems that there isn't any xorg.conf now |
| 03:57.02 | mbostwick | vatgas: systemsettings has the resolution, and xorg could be using hotplug |
| 03:57.05 | vatgas | (I'm running Kubuntu 9.10) |
| 03:57.07 | johnny69 | In konqueror, there was an entry in the left side panel showing all devices such as drives, plugged in cameras, thumb drives, etc. It would show up under the heading, "Storage Media". I cannot find it now. Anyway to make it appear again? (kde 3.4.x/suse 11.2) Thank you |
| 03:57.25 | johnny69 | ughhh kde 4.3.x!! |
| 03:57.28 | vatgas | mbostwick: systemsettings is only for the local user |
| 03:57.43 | vatgas | I can't change for kdm |
| 03:57.46 | mbostwick | vatgas: then make an xorg |
| 03:57.55 | vatgas | oh |
| 03:58.13 | vatgas | ok I will try |
| 03:58.22 | vatgas | come back in a few minutes :) |
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| 04:00.07 | DaZ | johnny69: kio-sysinfo |
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| 04:03.22 | johnny69 | DaZ: I'm not following you. I'm trying to add an entry in the left side of Konqueror that will display all the devices under one heading like it used to. Explain? Thank you. |
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| 04:50.00 | seme | hi guys is there a kde windows specific chat? |
| 04:50.15 | seme | I'm trying to get my environment set up to develop |
| 04:50.24 | seme | but I had a few questions I was hoping someone could help with |
| 04:50.31 | seme | such as how to enable debug builds with emerge |
| 04:50.57 | seme | oops found it |
| 04:51.00 | seme | thanks kde-windows |
| 04:51.01 | seme | ;) |
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| 05:00.58 | pothibo | Anyone tried to install KDE4 on a mac using macports recently? I got a compile arror about KURL on ResourceResponseBase.h:52 |
| 05:01.30 | Jucato | #kde-mac (or #kde-darwin ?) please |
| 05:01.47 | pothibo | I tried there, I also tried the forum, the webpage |
| 05:01.51 | pothibo | and google |
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| 05:36.07 | vatgas | i'm back :D |
| 05:37.20 | vatgas | anyone know if is normal that the background in login is not the same size that in splash screen ? |
| 05:37.56 | vatgas | I though it was a resolution issue, but all seems correct it my configuration |
| 05:38.17 | vatgas | *in |
| 05:39.22 | vatgas | do you guys have same background size when logged in ? |
| 05:39.59 | vatgas | mine login one looks smaller, like it would be for widescreen or smthing like that |
| 05:40.31 | vatgas | o_O |
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| 05:41.53 | vatgas | hello ? |
| 05:44.11 | vatgas | good night.. |
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| 06:39.41 | ||arifaX | has someone managed a authentication in KDE with a Yubikey? I have local YubiPAM and a working ssh auth via yubikey but want to go full on yubikey also on KDE. Any idea? |
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| 06:40.08 | ||arifaX | I mean with OTP not fixed key |
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| 08:01.10 | szal | does the release of KDE 4.3.5 imply that 4.4 will be delayed? |
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| 08:05.21 | eFfeM | hi, i just installed ktnef on ubuntu 8.04, but when I run it it with ktnef winmail.dat, it says it cannot open the file. The file exists and file winmail.dat says: winmail.dat: Transport Neutral Encapsulation Format |
| 08:05.21 | eFfeM | Anyone a suggestion ? |
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| 08:05.51 | Hailsematary | hi, does kdmr-executor exist in kde4? |
| 08:06.01 | Hailsematary | or is it replaced by command Kommander ? |
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| 08:30.36 | oc2k1 | hi it looks like my logout / restart and shutdown doesn't work anymore |
| 08:30.54 | Hailsematary | hi, does kdmr-executor exist in kde4? |
| 08:31.00 | Hailsematary | or is it replaced by command Kommander ? |
| 08:31.15 | Hailsematary | Or, are they same applications? :) I'm confused :S |
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| 09:02.54 | jbu | hi all. I 'startx' then 'startkde' then the blue splash screen comes up and it shows the hard drive icon come up...and then it stops there. Any ideas what's going on? How might I debug this to give an expert more information on what's going on? |
| 09:04.53 | troy | jbu: instead of running startkde that way - log into the failsafe x session (the one that only brings up an xterm and nothing else) |
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| 09:05.17 | troy | jbu: then run 'startkde' from there, and you should be able to get the debug output (assuming you have debug turned on) |
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| 09:06.07 | troy | jbu: alternately, you can pipe the output of startkde into a file - let me know if you need help with that |
| 09:06.19 | jbu | troy, how do I login to the failsafe x session? |
| 09:06.55 | jbu | it also doesn't appear like 'startkde' outputs anything |
| 09:07.04 | jbu | i'm starting it from what I believe is an xterm |
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| 09:10.44 | jbu | thanks anyway, i gotta go bye |
| 09:12.05 | troy | thinks jbu doesn't know how to start X, and is probably using a distro beyond his skill level if he's required to manually start it |
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| 09:12.16 | troy | had to do that in 1997, but not in 2010 |
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| 10:24.22 | _mwoodj_ | kde-4.4rc2 on Gentoo: I'm trying to configure a remote in IRKick. I need to do an operation on an unknown deviceidx. How can I get a list of available deviceidx's from dbus? I am using qdbus to test triggers and such but I can't find a way to get a device list back. I am using kmix in particular. |
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| 10:30.56 | andybiker | Why does /var/tmp/kde-cache store "Fake" websites acessable by e-mail links that do nothing? |
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| 10:32.25 | NehMoh | anyone knows what application/kwin/stdaction has associated "Shift+right" lately? I cannot select text from keyboard anymore |
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| 10:33.26 | andybiker | I clicked an e-mail link to unsubscribe from some newslist and was shown a website with some broken image links. Apart from that, it looked real enough! |
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| 10:34.31 | andybiker | What is /var/tmp/kde doing with my e-mail links anyway? |
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| 10:36.48 | glen | how do i get a backtrace of kmail without kcrash in the middle? |
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| 10:38.16 | NehMoh | glen: you need to run it under gdb, stop the run at certain point you need, and then type "bt" |
| 10:38.49 | Torch | NehMoh: check system settings -> keyboard / mouse -> global keyboard shortcuts |
| 10:39.54 | NehMoh | I checked that already, and nothing on the list |
| 10:40.03 | NehMoh | Torch: do you know the corresponding rc file? |
| 10:40.18 | NehMoh | it may be some mess up with older configuration settijgns |
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| 10:41.00 | NehMoh | glen: try "gdb kmail", then type "run", and press "ctrl+c" to stop it |
| 10:41.00 | Torch | NehMoh: `kde4-config --localprefix`/share/config/kdeglobals |
| 10:41.05 | NehMoh | thanks |
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| 10:42.26 | NehMoh | nothing there, I only find "alt+right" for forwarding |
| 10:43.07 | NehMoh | Torch: I'll have to go through all the rc files in another box that seems to be just fine with exactly same version |
| 10:43.17 | NehMoh | diff rocks ;) |
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| 10:49.55 | glen | NehMoh: well, i need backtrace at the time it causes SEGV |
| 10:50.26 | Torch | glen: normally drkonqi should show you the backtrace. doesn't this work? |
| 10:50.28 | glen | NehMoh: there's no way disable crash handler? some commandline opt or something? rm -f drkonqi? |
| 10:50.42 | Torch | glen: run it with --nocrashhandler as argument |
| 10:50.48 | glen | NehMoh: i need gdb, i.e "bt full", and some other innteractive commands |
| 10:51.04 | glen | ah, --nocrashhandler should do |
| 10:52.50 | glen | NehMoh: well, now it just "exited", without any crash event |
| 10:52.50 | glen | Program exited normally. |
| 10:53.08 | glen | i mean it really crashed, but behaved like i exited a program |
| 10:53.31 | glen | probably i need something so it omit setting up SIGSEGV signal |
| 10:54.54 | NehMoh | glen if you run "gdb appname", then "run", and press "ctrl+c" the app shouldn't exit |
| 10:55.12 | glen | NehMoh: but you don't understand, i want to to stop when SIGSEGV happens |
| 10:55.24 | NehMoh | ah, I see |
| 10:55.32 | pinotree | glen: which is the default behaviour |
| 10:55.39 | glen | and i can't really setup breakpoint on some commonly used function |
| 10:55.42 | gkiagia | glen: if it exited, then no crash happened |
| 10:55.44 | pinotree | "Program exited normally." means it didn't crash at all |
| 10:55.52 | glen | no you all don't get it |
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| 10:56.13 | gkiagia | is that plasma you are trying to debug? |
| 10:56.33 | glen | is kmail expected to quit after i send email? no. it still crashed, but as SIGSEGV was still trapped and without kcrash the handler seems to be exit(0) |
| 10:56.39 | glen | gkiagia: kmail actually |
| 10:57.11 | NehMoh | glen: you need to handle sigsev |
| 10:57.15 | gkiagia | gdb bypasses all handlers |
| 10:57.20 | gkiagia | it will catch any signal |
| 10:57.27 | NehMoh | glen: check this http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/gdb/gdb_39.html |
| 10:57.30 | gkiagia | any crash signal anyway |
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| 10:57.38 | NehMoh | it shows how to setup gdb to do whatever on signals |
| 10:57.39 | glen | either you're not following what i'm saying or you never seen any gdb |
| 10:57.46 | NehMoh | glen: read my link ;) |
| 10:57.56 | gkiagia | it could be the XIO error handler that catches an X error and exits ;) |
| 10:57.58 | glen | gdb traps SIGSEGV by default, it's kmail which reroutes it |
| 10:58.07 | NehMoh | ah? that's news to me |
| 10:58.18 | pinotree | NehMoh: always been that way |
| 10:58.43 | NehMoh | pinotree: maybe for kmail coders, heh. One day, one more thing to learn |
| 10:59.34 | pinotree | NehMoh: no, gdb catches by default some signals, including SEGV, ABRT, FPE; never had to setup handers in gdb for them |
| 10:59.50 | gkiagia | glen: set a breakpoint in the _exit syscall |
| 11:00.06 | glen | i'll give it a try with breakpoint... maybe it's not that common code that i have to "gdb> continue" forever |
| 11:00.12 | glen | gkiagia: ah, good idea |
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| 11:01.59 | glen | how to start kmail without kdeinit (so it stays foreground)? |
| 11:02.29 | pinotree | `kmail`? |
| 11:02.42 | gkiagia | you mean --nofork, but it has nothing to do with kdeinit |
| 11:03.18 | pinotree | kmail is not kuniqueapp anyway, there's no --nofork for it |
| 11:04.25 | glen | that is not what backtrace says |
| 11:04.26 | glen | (gdb) bt |
| 11:04.26 | glen | #0 0x00007ffff5db0a20 in _exit () from /lib64/libc.so.6 |
| 11:04.26 | glen | #1 0x00007ffff5d43005 in ?? () from /lib64/libc.so.6 |
| 11:04.26 | glen | #2 0x00007ffff5d43075 in exit () from /lib64/libc.so.6 |
| 11:04.29 | glen | #3 0x00007ffff7175204 in KUniqueApplication::start () at kuniqueapplication.cpp:310 |
| 11:04.32 | glen | #4 0x00000000004027e7 in main (argc=2, argv=0x7fffffffdf08) at main.cpp:78 |
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| 11:04.44 | pinotree | notes there are pastebin services... |
| 11:05.17 | gkiagia | glen: so, it really exits at kuniqueapplication.cpp:310 |
| 11:05.19 | glen | true, true |
| 11:05.22 | gkiagia | no you have to find out why |
| 11:05.24 | gkiagia | now* |
| 11:05.37 | glen | gkiagia: that is bt when i setup break at _exit.... |
| 11:05.49 | gkiagia | oh wait a sec |
| 11:05.57 | pinotree | frame 3 ; l |
| 11:06.24 | glen | frame 3; l on that last bt? |
| 11:06.28 | gkiagia | you didn't use --nofork or something else wierd happened |
| 11:06.29 | gkiagia | ? |
| 11:06.40 | glen | i didn't use --nofork yet |
| 11:08.08 | glen | i needed to use this command to get the gdb without kcrash: gdb --args kmail --nocrashhandler --nofork |
| 11:08.12 | glen | just noting the info |
| 11:10.10 | glen | http://pld.pastebin.com/m1215919e d is NULL it seems |
| 11:10.21 | glen | if (d && d->m_signalConnections + if (d) delete d needed? |
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| 11:11.09 | pinotree | if (foo) delete foo; is redundant in c++, you can delete a null pointer just fine |
| 11:11.14 | gkiagia | oh, all this time you were saying it exits normally because of the forking... heh :) |
| 11:11.41 | pinotree | also, you didn't say it is kde3's kmail |
| 11:11.45 | glen | gkiagia: yes, true! just concluded something else from the behaviour, didn't notice it exited before it crashed :) |
| 11:12.09 | glen | pinotree: nobody asked, and did want to get some info instead of saying KDE3 is obsolete go away |
| 11:12.19 | pinotree | glen: read the topic :) |
| 11:13.12 | glen | nevertheless, "if (d &&" seems sane fix? |
| 11:13.26 | pinotree | a workaround |
| 11:13.54 | glen | it seems to be compiler related, as with earlier gcc i had no such crashes. so compiler optimized it away or something |
| 11:14.22 | glen | earlier = gcc-4.4.2-5.x86_66, current = gcc-4.4.3-1.x86_64 |
| 11:14.47 | glen | :80 |
| 11:15.05 | pinotree | then, if the problem is compiler-related, compile with an earlier compiler, or disable/reduce optimisations |
| 11:15.44 | glen | could be race condition too |
| 11:18.31 | glen | i'll see if i recompile kdelibs with older gcc and problem goes away |
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| 11:39.08 | Hailsematary | hi, does kdmr-executor exist in kde4? |
| 11:39.13 | Hailsematary | or is it replaced by command Kommander ? |
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| 11:39.17 | Hailsematary | Or, are they same applications?  I'm confused  |
| 11:39.23 | Hailsematary | :S |
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| 11:41.21 | glen | actually i don't see at all why is dcopobject destructor called in the backtrace |
| 11:41.43 | glen | either KMComposeWin is child class of dcopobject, or some local variable such gets destructed |
| 11:41.58 | Jucato | Hailsematary: I think it's the part of kommander that actually executes the scripts. try asking in a kommander IRC channel (if there's one) or a kommander support forum |
| 11:42.02 | glen | first claim does not seem to be true - http://www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org/apidocs/apidox-kde-3.5/kdepim-apidocs/kmail/html/classKMail_1_1Composer.html |
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| 11:43.08 | Hailsematary | Jucato: thx 4 the answer, it is included in kdewebdev component I think |
| 11:44.16 | glen | so in this backtrace http://pld.pastebin.com/m1215919e, KMComposeWin::~KMComposeWin (http://pld.pastebin.com/da075c12) any of the local vars are related to DCOPObject ? |
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| 11:45.28 | pinotree | glen: #kontact |
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| 11:47.15 | glen | is kio kdelibs or kdebase? |
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| 11:48.13 | glen | seems kdelibs :) |
| 11:49.05 | Jucato | Hailsematary: a quick google search seems to point out that "kmdr-executor" is now just "kommander" in KDE 4 |
| 11:49.55 | Hailsematary | Jucato: hmm, I missed out that :/ |
| 11:50.01 | Hailsematary | anyway, thanx ;) |
| 11:51.00 | glen | 13:50:31 dfaure> DCOPObject is kde3. kde3 is dead. |
| 11:51.18 | glen | pinotree: that's not helpful |
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| 11:52.29 | pinotree | not sure what did you expect, given kde3 is no more supported |
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| 11:54.26 | glen | it's not completely wiped out of existence, some knowledge still exists, i expected helpful answer |
| 11:56.16 | pinotree | dcop? nobody touches dcop for ore than 6 years now |
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| 11:57.53 | troy | we had a nice nostalgic conversation about dcop at camp kde, related to the fact that qt/embedded has a qcop thing :) |
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| 11:59.11 | glen | it is imho not dcop related, but somewhy dcop constructor is called, seems like memory overwrite to me |
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| 12:55.40 | Tomasu | I keep getting this odd issue with shortcuts in kate, every so often it tells me ctrl+v is ambigious, when I haven't changed a thing, and looking in kate's short cuts, and a brief browse of the global shortcuts reveals nothing else is using ctrl+v |
| 12:56.19 | tuxick | and once again keyboard stopped working |
| 12:56.32 | tuxick | this bug is like 16 months old now |
| 12:56.49 | Tomasu | and ctrl+s is now ambigious... |
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| 12:59.54 | Tomasu | and now all of a sudden ctrl+s isn't ambigious?? |
| 12:59.55 | Tomasu | weird |
| 13:00.36 | carl- | can kontact popup notifications containing other than "new mail arrived" someone know a way to tune this .. so that one can see for instance subject etc |
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| 13:02.42 | LukasT | Hi where can I change plasma theme in KDE4.4? |
| 13:03.06 | LukasT | and have you got idea if it is possible to change size of CPU monitor in KDE4.4 http://imagebin.ca/view/3gGgvB3.html |
| 13:03.42 | LukasT | I want it smaller |
| 13:07.11 | rdieter | LukasT: plasma theme : systemsettings -> appearance -> style (workspace tab) |
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| 13:09.55 | cb400f | LukasT: you could try the 'systemloadviewer' plasmoid instead |
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| 13:10.13 | cb400f | it'll show you cpu(s), ram, swap in less space |
| 13:10.50 | LukasT | cb400f: thanks I will give it a try |
| 13:11.15 | LukasT | plaplasma |
| 13:11.29 | LukasT | ups , plasma crashed |
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| 14:29.27 | evil-sheek | Hi, I have a Kwrite question... |
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| 14:29.56 | underscores | evil-sheek: then shoot ^^ |
| 14:30.55 | evil-sheek | Hi, I'm editing a PHP File and it's not a bad editor at all except lol ;p --- When I put the cursor next to a bracket, it highlights the other one but the color is tooo light for me to see? Hmmm, how can I change the color? |
| 14:32.23 | underscores | evil-sheek: have you looked in the Settings Menu? |
| 14:32.36 | pinotree | evil-sheek: settings → configure editor → fonts & colors → colors → bracketss highlight |
| 14:32.38 | Jucato | Settings -> Configure Editor -> Fonts and Colors, change the Bracket Highlight |
| 14:32.49 | Jucato | loses to pretty arrows |
| 14:33.01 | pinotree | comforts Jucato |
| 14:33.30 | evil-sheek | hehhe ;p |
| 14:33.38 | Jucato | T_T |
| 14:34.07 | evil-sheek | Thanks, I was looking in Highlighting Text Styles --- No wonder I couldn't find it... |
| 14:34.23 | evil-sheek | underscores: pinotree: Jucato: thanks a lot |
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| 14:35.02 | vatgas | hey |
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| 14:35.12 | vatgas | i was wondering |
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| 14:35.34 | vatgas | do you guys have same background size between login and splash screen ? |
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| 14:37.39 | vatgas | I use the oxygen-air theme, and in the login window the backgound seems zoomed... |
| 14:37.40 | jelly | Hi. My kde 4.3.4 (debian testing) panel seems hung, its contents don't update and it doesn't respond to clicks. How do I restart it? |
| 14:39.35 | vatgas | jelly: restart kde ? |
| 14:40.12 | jelly | vatgas: not an option |
| 14:40.24 | jelly | I don't want to log out |
| 14:41.19 | vatgas | jelly: what do you mean by panel ? |
| 14:41.26 | vatgas | jelly: is the system settings ? |
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| 14:43.02 | vatgas | jelly: anyway, for every window, you can use ctrl+alt+esc, you mouse will kill everything you click on |
| 14:43.47 | jelly | vatgas: a square container for systray, task list, misc applets, usually stuck to the screen border. fvwm, wmaker, xfce, gnome call them panels. |
| 14:44.24 | vatgas | jelly: oh |
| 14:44.25 | jelly | alright, that was apparently plasma-desktop |
| 14:45.40 | jelly | xkill (what ctrl-alt-esc invokes) succeeded in killing it |
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| 14:47.39 | jelly | thanks and bye! |
| 14:48.23 | vatgas | would like also to solve is little problem |
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| 14:49.24 | vatgas | does anyone have issues with the size of the backgound in the login window ? |
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| 14:52.27 | dmitryK | Hi, all! I've updates openSuse to Factory (KDE 4.4 RC1) i i've got a trouble with monitor configuration |
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| 14:53.40 | dmitryK | i can't choose 1280x1024 for vga-connected display. The only choice is 1280x800(LVDS-size) |
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| 14:54.14 | dmitryK | i could choose it in KDE4.3, is it a bug of openSuse or KDE? |
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| 14:58.13 | soa2ii | Anyone here up to date what's going on with KDEPIM/Akonadi and SyncML atm? It would be cool to sync my Desktop/Notebook/Mobile over a syncML server (funambol for example) … but I think the funambol <-> KDE interface is still missing … isn't it? |
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| 15:00.35 | Jucato | dmitryK: might want to verify with #opensuse or #opensuse-kde first (iirc they're using a different X config utility). |
| 15:00.41 | Jucato | soa2ii: #kontact |
| 15:01.46 | dmitryK | Jucato: I used "Configure Desktop" tab, does it differ? |
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| 15:02.47 | Jucato | dmitryK: I think that only reads the list of available resolutions that X (or HAL?) is providing it. |
| 15:03.17 | dmitryK | Jucato: ok |
| 15:03.23 | Jucato | anyway, the resolution is detected and set just fine on my Fedora 12 (KDE 4.3.4) installations |
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| 15:04.23 | dmitryK | Jucato: yeah, it worked in my 4.3.1 installation. Now i've updated to 4.3.9 |
| 15:04.39 | javier_ | dmitryK: i have openSUSE 11.2/KDE 4.3.4 and a 1920x1080 screen resolution |
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| 15:06.00 | dmitryK | javier_: i have two displays: LVDS(notebook's lcd with smaller resolution) and external one. I want to turn off LVDS and turn on VGA |
| 15:06.23 | javier_ | dmitryK: ah, then it's another issue |
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| 15:18.26 | tuxick | shift-ins no longer pasting text i selected with mouse |
| 15:18.34 | tuxick | what did i break? |
| 15:18.45 | tuxick | it gets stuff from another buffer |
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| 15:21.58 | troy | hey guys - I'm working on adding a rather obscure file format to KDE, and need to find some example images in this format |
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| 15:52.11 | Ahox | Hi, my konqueror (4.4rc2) does not load webpages if they contain a space in the address (as caused by say a "gg kde sc" or using the bugreport function - which is rather ironic). Is this a known bug or should I open a bugreport (using firefox...)? |
| 15:52.39 | Ahox | Doing a quick bug search did not come up with anything yet I find this a bit odd |
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| 16:05.07 | annma | Ahox: gg:kde sc works ok for me |
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| 16:05.32 | annma | konqueror 4.4 branch, just post RC2 |
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| 16:14.25 | Ahox | Whats about "http://www.kde.org/ test" ? |
| 16:14.32 | Ahox | Will it replace the blank with a %20? |
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| 16:14.50 | Ahox | never mind the last question |
| 16:14.59 | Ahox | still does the webpage with the / test load? |
| 16:15.33 | annma | The requested URL /%20test was not found on this server. |
| 16:16.00 | annma | webpage with the / test? |
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| 16:16.22 | NehMoh | strange folder name though, beginning with space |
| 16:17.52 | annma | not sure what can cause your behaviour Ahox |
| 16:17.57 | annma | did you try a new user? |
| 16:18.08 | Ahox | ok, i will file a bugreport. |
| 16:18.10 | Ahox | No I didn't |
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| 16:19.18 | annma | as I said I cannot reproduce and I have vanilla KDE from svn |
| 16:19.33 | annma | so before filing a bug report you could try a new user |
| 16:19.49 | annma | what's your distro? |
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| 16:26.26 | Ahox | annma, kubuntu 9.10 with the rc2 from the beta ppa's |
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| 16:28.51 | Ahox | also with a new user it works |
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| 16:30.50 | rdieter | Ahox: (I think it's a konversation bug) |
| 16:31.29 | rdieter | nvm, reading the whole conversation (pun) seems your issue is different |
| 16:32.08 | Ahox | rdieter: would be odd - I don't even have konversation installed ;-) |
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| 16:34.40 | Sho_ | Ahox: I think that's an Ahox bug |
| 16:34.48 | Sho_ | (the not having Konversation installed) |
| 16:34.50 | Sho_ | :) |
| 16:34.58 | Ahox | Sho_, this one is already fixed ;-) |
| 16:35.02 | Sho_ | hehe |
| 16:35.35 | annma | Ahox: so do you reproduce with a new user? |
| 16:35.44 | annma | was triaging some bug reports meanwhile |
| 16:36.03 | Ahox | It works with a new user |
| 16:36.08 | annma | ah |
| 16:36.16 | Ahox | As in I couldn't reproduce it |
| 16:36.20 | annma | yes |
| 16:36.37 | annma | so it's a config clash somewhere |
| 16:36.41 | annma | or even a setting |
| 16:37.05 | annma | Check this box if you want spaces to be a nuisance |
| 16:37.17 | annma | joking |
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| 16:37.53 | annma | is your konqueror heavily customized? |
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| 16:44.04 | Ahox | I hunted it down a bit, it only happens when I use the webkit mode |
| 16:44.31 | Ahox | the last line of konqueror stdout is konqueror(4807)/kdecore (KLibrary) kde4Factory: The library "/usr/lib/kde4/libkhtmlpart.so" does not offer a qt_plugin_instance function. |
| 16:47.26 | annma | webkit mode |
| 16:47.26 | Ahox | annma, for your last question, not really, replaced the webshortcut from : to blanks (cheked that already) and installed the webkit mode - which seems to be the cause |
| 16:47.26 | annma | how do you set that |
| 16:47.26 | Ahox | View/View Mode -> Webkit |
| 16:47.52 | Ahox | You need webkitkde for that to work |
| 16:48.02 | annma | I don't have it I think |
| 16:48.09 | annma | where is it locate din svn? |
| 16:48.14 | annma | where is it located in svn? |
| 16:48.18 | Ahox | So I guess it's not really a konqueror issue. |
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| 16:48.44 | annma | no |
| 16:48.56 | Ahox | I have no idea, I used the precompiled packages |
| 16:49.08 | annma | but you can report it against webkitkde if it exists in bugzilla |
| 16:49.16 | Ahox | And looking at it it also could be a version issue - its compiled for kde 4.3 |
| 16:49.18 | annma | nice to have tracked it down Ahox |
| 16:49.43 | Ahox | Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.3.0)... |
| 16:49.45 | Ahox | indeed |
| 16:51.13 | annma | there's a bugzilla component named kwebkitpart |
| 16:51.54 | Ahox | let me try to get it for the new version |
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| 16:52.56 | annma | OK |
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| 16:56.10 | jbu | hi all. I 'startx' then 'startkde' then the blue splash screen comes up and it shows the hard drive icon come up...and then it stops there. Any ideas what's going on? How might I debug this to give an expert more information on what's going on? |
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| 16:57.25 | thrice` | you startx and startkde separately? |
| 16:57.36 | jbu | thrice`, yes |
| 16:57.56 | jbu | thrice`, well actually I'm not sure what you mean...how could you you not start them separately? |
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| 16:58.23 | jbu | I entered two separate commands if that's what you meant |
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| 16:59.46 | thrice` | yes, that's not right :> |
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| 17:00.14 | thrice` | typically, you have something like "exec startkde" in ~/.xinitrc, and startx loads xinit and parses that file |
| 17:00.40 | jbu | hmm well I can give that a try |
| 17:00.48 | jbu | thanks |
| 17:00.50 | thrice` | which distro are you on? |
| 17:00.52 | jbu | gentoo |
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| 17:01.53 | annma | #gentoo-kde jbu |
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| 17:02.14 | jbu | annma, ah, sorry, didn't know it existed |
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| 17:16.04 | szal | who asked about pwd behaviour w/ KDE apps & FTP yesterday? |
| 17:16.25 | szal | seems that's fixed w/ KDE 4.3.5, the 'Anonymous' setting now sticks |
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| 17:38.18 | bronze | Hi, on KDE-3 I want to write a script to set the name of my current tab in konsole. Is there a general way to do that? |
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| 17:45.50 | mbana | im not sure if it's just me or if browsing for files is slow, i think it's becuase of all the ui effects. and i've got a fast machine on top of that |
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| 17:46.41 | v1k1ng0 | hello |
| 17:47.03 | v1k1ng0 | I have kde, and arts package installed |
| 17:47.20 | v1k1ng0 | if I run ps aux | grep artsd ... it doesn't show nothing |
| 17:47.26 | v1k1ng0 | is it normal? |
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| 17:49.53 | v1k1ng0 | is it ok? |
| 17:50.36 | thrice` | are you on kde4? |
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| 17:54.03 | v1k1ng0 | thrice`: yes |
| 17:54.04 | clarjon1 | mbana: i'm not having any speed issues... |
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| 17:54.42 | v1k1ng0 | thrice`: kde 4.3.4 debian sid |
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| 17:55.15 | v1k1ng0 | thrice`: my sound is good, it works, but I want have hdmi audio output |
| 17:55.49 | v1k1ng0 | I have connected my laptop with my tv, video is cloned well, but audio, it hasn't sound |
| 17:55.55 | Zaister | Is there a way to make kwin open windows only on one specified monitor of a two-monitor setup? |
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| 18:01.25 | thrice` | virsys, kde4 does not use arts |
| 18:01.52 | thrice` | virsys, arts was a sound server maintained by the kde guys during kde3; for 4, they use phonon + a backend on your system (xine, gstreamer, pulse?) |
| 18:02.10 | thrice` | anyway, you shouldn't have anything arts related running for sound in kde4 :) |
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| 18:23.56 | v1k1ng0 | thrice`: ok, thank you very much |
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| 18:44.55 | Tomasu | ooh, does anyone know if there's a wallpaper plugin to just randomly grab images off a given image hosting site? |
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| 18:49.25 | kaddi | my kde-config got screwed up by the latest kubuntu updates. but there is noone in the kubuntu-channel helping. I checked my plasma-appletsrc but it's unchanged. Any ideas if someone can help me? |
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| 18:49.32 | ArchType | HElow |
| 18:49.36 | ArchType | :) |
| 18:49.41 | kaddi | hi :) |
| 18:49.51 | ArchType | I switched to lonux and now I'd like to make some kde apps :D |
| 18:49.56 | ArchType | linux lol :P |
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| 18:50.07 | ArchType | what devel tools do you suggest |
| 18:50.18 | ArchType | what howtos what what? |
| 18:50.20 | ArchType | :P |
| 18:50.39 | kaddi | hold on I believe I have a howto for kde applets somewhere |
| 18:50.41 | annma | you want to develop a KDE app? |
| 18:50.45 | ArchType | I know for gtk based .net and c# monodevelop is great |
| 18:50.57 | ArchType | annma: yes |
| 18:50.58 | annma | we have kdevelop |
| 18:51.04 | annma | but IDEs are just IDEs |
| 18:51.18 | annma | what sort of app? already have an idea? |
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| 18:51.46 | ArchType | annma: basically I would port some already created apps from visual studio |
| 18:51.49 | ArchType | nothing serious |
| 18:51.53 | ArchType | just for playing around |
| 18:52.03 | ArchType | apps that does some xml coding :P |
| 18:52.19 | annma | you need to browse the Qt API docs and the kde ones |
| 18:52.32 | annma | in konqueror, type |
| 18:52.36 | annma | qt:qstring |
| 18:52.48 | annma | for ex and it'll bring you to the Qt API page of QString |
| 18:52.51 | annma | same for KDE |
| 18:52.57 | annma | kde:ktextbowser |
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| 18:53.03 | annma | ktextbrowser |
| 18:53.20 | annma | techbase.kde.org also has various tutorials |
| 18:53.41 | annma | I use Kate and konsole to develop |
| 18:53.44 | ArchType | annma: ok so this would be a starting point |
| 18:53.55 | ArchType | annma: how do u create menus... buttons? |
| 18:53.56 | annma | you can get small kde apps template with an app called KAppTemplate |
| 18:54.06 | annma | KXMLguiWindow |
| 18:54.12 | ArchType | :> |
| 18:54.17 | ArchType | so everything by hand |
| 18:54.20 | annma | get KAppTemplate and build a few examples |
| 18:54.21 | ArchType | no dragging |
| 18:54.28 | annma | xml based |
| 18:54.31 | annma | for menus |
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| 18:55.03 | Tomasu | ArchType: if you want fancy draging and whatnot, look at QtCreator |
| 18:55.12 | annma | I'll be away for a few minutes |
| 18:55.20 | Tomasu | or a regular IDE and QtDesigner |
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| 18:56.47 | ArchType | I better get start reading techbase |
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| 19:57.39 | lord-carlos | hi there, is there an german kde channel somewhere? |
| 19:58.23 | lord-carlos | well then i just try to ask the question in english |
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| 19:59.31 | lord-carlos | i am not sure if this is the right channel .. but will soon find out. So i connectet my new Sound system over HDMI to my computer. Change the sounddevice in the KDE4.3 settings. |
| 20:00.00 | lord-carlos | Now all KDE programms (dragonplayer, amarok) are sending there sound over HDMI to the sound system |
| 20:00.23 | lord-carlos | but all not KDE programm have no sound (iceweasel, mplayer) |
| 20:00.42 | lord-carlos | What can i do so i have sound with all the non kde apps? |
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| 20:01.13 | lord-carlos | it was working when i used the analog output |
| 20:01.44 | Half-Left | You're asking us how you can get sound in non kde apps? :) |
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| 20:03.22 | lord-carlos | well .. yes. It's just strange. With analog output everything was working. But now all non kde apps dont have sound |
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| 20:03.43 | lord-carlos | i can tell mplayer to use the sound device, but then kde apps dont have sound |
| 20:04.03 | lord-carlos | so i am asking how i can use non-kde apps together with kde apps |
| 20:04.29 | Half-Left | Well non KDE apps use their own way of getting sound |
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| 20:04.47 | Half-Left | Usually via some sound daemon |
| 20:05.06 | lord-carlos | ist alsa an sound daemon? |
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| 20:06.15 | lord-carlos | sorry, i have no idea about linux sound system |
| 20:06.30 | lord-carlos | there are so many alternative sound deamons .. i think |
| 20:06.45 | thrice` | lord-carlos, mm, more like a sound layer; there isn't a sepcific daemon that runs |
| 20:06.51 | Half-Left | But if the app uses Pulse Audio then it will use that and if that's not running, you won't get sound |
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| 20:08.00 | lord-carlos | i still dont get why everyting was working togather with the analog sound output |
| 20:08.18 | lord-carlos | i could use amarok and mplayer and games at the same time |
| 20:08.52 | Half-Left | Maybe ask your distro channel about it |
| 20:09.07 | Half-Left | After all, KDE doesn't manage sound |
| 20:09.53 | lord-carlos | i can try to ask them |
| 20:09.58 | lord-carlos | thanks for the help |
| 20:10.05 | lord-carlos | and keep up the good work |
| 20:10.14 | Half-Left | :) |
| 20:10.53 | lord-carlos | another question .. why the f*** is my screen getting black after 1 minute? It never did that before .. |
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| 20:11.30 | Half-Left | That could be anything |
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| 20:12.19 | lord-carlos | looks like it's not kde's fault |
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| 20:18.56 | kriko | omg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ctmLorlIWQ&feature=player_embedded |
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| 20:22.19 | Half-Left | cool |
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| 20:23.01 | kriko | kwin needs that :> |
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| 20:25.45 | thiago_home | needs what? |
| 20:25.57 | Torch | thiago_home: headtracking |
| 20:26.10 | thiago_home | focus follows thought? |
| 20:26.22 | Torch | thiago_home: hehe. no, pseudo-3d with headtracking |
| 20:26.23 | thiago_home | we've been talking about that since before KDE 1 |
| 20:27.33 | kriko | thiago_home: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ctmLorlIWQ&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:27.47 | kriko | well it's kinda useless, but it's certainly a cool factor |
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| 20:27.59 | thiago_home | like most effects |
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| 20:31.27 | kaddi_ | hi, something has gone very wrong with my kde. I asked for help in kubuntu but they ran out of ideas. All my backgrounds became transparent. My desktop now looks like this:http://imagebin.org/82171 no matter which background theme I choose. I moved my .kde folder in hope that would fix it, that's why it now shows default setup |
| 20:33.57 | rahman | Sorry to bother you such a stupid question but it drives me mad: http://pastebin.ca/1768444 "for (int i = 0; i <( a -b); i++)" why this loop only runs 1 round instead of 2 when a= 3 and b = 1 ? What is it that I can't see :S |
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| 20:34.45 | kaddi_ | because i needs to be smaller than 2 and 2 isn't smaller than 2? |
| 20:35.34 | rahman | kaddi_: i = 0, i= 1 < 2 that make two ;-) |
| 20:36.02 | kaddi_ | ah lol i thought you asked why it didn't complete a run for i=2 |
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| 20:45.20 | kaddi_ | where is the background config for desktop-themes stored in kde? Can I edit it manually in a textfile? |
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| 20:47.00 | Half-Left | kaddi_: What do you want to do? |
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| 20:47.42 | kaddi_ | I have a bug that has made all applets, taskbars and menus transparent. Changing desktop-theme doesn't help. I was hoping that setting a color by hand might bring it back |
| 20:47.52 | adac | Do you guys use dbus? |
| 20:48.00 | adac | mean in kde |
| 20:48.01 | Half-Left | yes |
| 20:48.03 | kaddi_ | Half-Left: I uploaded a screenshot here: http://imagebin.org/82171 |
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| 20:48.30 | Half-Left | What theme is that? |
| 20:49.18 | kaddi_ | Half-Left: air |
| 20:49.41 | kaddi_ | Half-Left: the screenshot was taken after I removed .kde, so it's complete default setting (for Kubuntu) |
| 20:49.44 | adac | Half-Left, yes was for my question, wasn't it? |
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| 20:50.00 | Half-Left | adac: yep |
| 20:50.46 | adac | Half-Left, would a python script, that offers dbus bindings be compatible with both, kde and gnome. Do you probably know that? |
| 20:50.49 | Half-Left | kaddi_: Try and delete the cache from ~/.kde/cache"myhostname"/kpc |
| 20:51.38 | Half-Left | adac: No idea but at a guess yes because we both use dbus |
| 20:51.59 | adac | kk |
| 20:52.00 | adac | thx! |
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| 20:53.00 | kaddi_ | Half-Left:do I need a restart after that? |
| 20:53.12 | Half-Left | kaddi_: Just restart plasma |
| 20:53.48 | Half-Left | Run kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop from krunner |
| 20:54.02 | kaddi_ | didn't help |
| 20:54.06 | Half-Left | If it doesn't restart just run plasma-desktop |
| 20:54.33 | kaddi_ | i stopped plasma-desktop, removed everything from kpc folder and restarted, but the background are still transparent |
| 20:54.52 | Half-Left | Do other themes work? |
| 20:55.33 | kaddi_ | Half-Left: no. I can change themes, that changes the layouts slightly, but background stays transparent |
| 20:56.09 | Half-Left | weird |
| 20:56.45 | Half-Left | Try turning Desktop effects off |
| 20:56.52 | kaddi_ | Half-Left: I updated today and there were major kde-updates. Don't now if that helps. I suspect it may have been an upgrade to kde 4.3.5 but I'm not sure. |
| 20:57.05 | kaddi_ | not sure if that info helps |
| 20:58.54 | Half-Left | kaddi_: If a logout doesn't help and Desktop Effects turned off, try asking in #plasma |
| 20:59.17 | kaddi_ | Half-Left: that makes my background color black whith black writing o.o |
| 21:00.28 | Half-Left | Could be graphics driver related, but try a logout |
| 21:00.43 | kaddi_ | k brb |
| 21:00.56 | kaddi_ | Half-Left: what's the konsole-command for logout? |
| 21:01.20 | Half-Left | Just logout as normal |
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| 21:01.34 | kaddi_ | thx, brb |
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| 21:02.29 | kaddi_ | Half-Left: no, I have a konsole-session open while running kde. But since I don't see anything in my start-menu I need to do it over console. Logout tells me I'm not on a loginshell |
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| 21:02.44 | Half-Left | Not idea |
| 21:02.46 | Half-Left | no* |
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| 21:02.57 | kaddi_ | k, I'll just do a reboot then |
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| 21:08.34 | kaddi | i did the reboot. did not really improve anything. But disabling the desktop effects changed everything from"transparent on transparent" to very very dark grey on black (that was before reboot already). It's a little better to read, but still not good and there's a part of k-menu that isn't drawn at all |
| 21:09.57 | Half-Left | kaddi: Try asking in #plasma |
| 21:10.32 | kaddi | on it :) thanks for your help :) |
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| 22:23.25 | kriko | anyone using kde 4.4 packages from opensuse? |
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| 22:24.41 | kriko | if so, factory or from unstable? |
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| 22:26.04 | troy | kriko: there is an opensuse kde channel someplace that probable had the right answer to that -- #opensuse-kde or similar? I can't recall the exact name |
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| 22:29.57 | einar77 | troy: should be that |
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| 22:37.16 | kriko | tnx |
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| 22:47.33 | N9NU | can someone tell me where the option is to enable each seperate account in KMAIL to have it's own folder set (inbox, trash, etc) |
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| 22:55.06 | oneforall | CONFIG_SCSI_DH |
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| 22:59.47 | FunctorSalad | how can I premanently embiggen the kickoff window? |
| 23:00.21 | FunctorSalad | (the one that's shown when you click the K button on the panel) |
| 23:00.55 | FunctorSalad | seems suboptimal to make it so small, forcing one to scroll through the menu |
| 23:00.58 | troy | FunctorSalad: for me, I just click on it, resize it using the handle in the top right, and it stays that way |
| 23:01.21 | FunctorSalad | troy: I can resize it that way, but it doesn't persist |
| 23:01.32 | troy | might have to unlock your widgets, if they're locked |
| 23:01.43 | troy | *shrugs* - it's worked properly for me since kde 4.2 |
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| 23:02.06 | FunctorSalad | nope, doesn't persist with unlocked widgets either |
| 23:02.37 | FunctorSalad | I even tried to set "size" to "remember" in the "special window settings" ;) |
| 23:03.03 | troy | hrm - no idea |
| 23:03.45 | FunctorSalad | KDE 4.3.4 |
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| 23:04.56 | troy | FunctorSalad: it works on my 4.3.4 install - just tried it (slackware64) |
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| 23:05.19 | FunctorSalad | odd :) but thank you anyway |
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| 23:42.34 | the_cyber_guy | i m unable to get full kde desktop under windows 7. plz help |
| 23:43.34 | pinotree | the_cyber_guy: #kde-windows (note it might not need working as you would expect) |
| 23:43.53 | the_cyber_guy | #kde-windows |
| 23:44.02 | the_cyber_guy | sorry |
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| 23:49.51 | Fanfare | Q: I prepare the Screencast for KDE SC 4.4 Feature Guide... But i dont get the point with the <ctrl>+click in taskbar thing... |
| 23:50.04 | Fanfare | could someone pls explain... |
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| 23:51.17 | troy | doesn't know either :) |
| 23:52.27 | Half-Left | Saves you using screen edges? |
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| 23:53.38 | Frogbarf | I am trying to get the kmail filters to match regular expressions but they don't seem to work. What is an example that works in kmail for something like "viagra"? |
| 23:54.02 | Frogbarf | I found http://wiki.spamihilator.com/doku.php?id=en:tutorials:regex but kmail just seems to ignore what I enter |
| 23:55.18 | Fanfare | Half-Left: Is that supposed to work in 4.4rc2? do i have to enaple it? <ctrl>+click in taskbar seems to do nothing spezial here... |
| 23:56.04 | Half-Left | Fanfare: If you click the space next to the tasks it does yeah |
| 23:56.30 | *** join/#kde aspotashev_ (n=quassel@ppp83-237-189-218.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 23:58.02 | Half-Left | Assuming you have more than one task |
| 23:58.28 | the_cyber_guy | there is no response from kde-windows. plz help. i m on win7 using kde latest but unable to get full kde desktop. here is the screen shot http://tinyurl.com/ya9p44c |
| 23:59.31 | Torch | the_cyber_guy: well. kde on windows is very experimental. |
| 23:59.42 | Torch | the_cyber_guy: it's a hit or miss thing, really. |
