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00:07.47 | morsik | i really don't know why this app can start |
00:08.36 | troy | looks like a dbus error of sorts - sadly, I'm not usually able to debug such things myself |
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00:18.32 | morsik | i just reload and now apps working |
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06:18.52 | johnny69 | Hi folks...hopefully this one will be easy to answer. I plug in a flash/thumb drive and no box appears asking what I want to do with it. (open, ignore, show folders, etc) I plug in my camera and nothing appears either in the way of a prompt. However, using a file manager I can see either device and what they contain. Any ideas? (kde 4.3.4 / Suse 11.2) Thank you. |
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06:26.09 | troy | johnny69: might want to ask in the #opensuse channels as well, but my guess is that the KDE background service that is supposed to detect those things is somehow b0rked - not sure how or why though |
06:26.23 | troy | johnny69: have you tried logging out and back into kde? |
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06:32.00 | hammerjv | Hi all - I've been out of it for a while - I'm using kde 4 on gentoo and I seem to have deleted my task bar from the desktop and I'm not sure how to get it back??? help |
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06:37.17 | troy | hammerjv: easiest way is to poke into /home/username/.kde4/share/config and look for files named plasma* - if you aren't fond of your plasma settings, you can move them away, or try poking around inside those files to fix a single setting |
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06:39.42 | hammerjv | troy: so just go in there and nuke the plasma settings? |
06:40.21 | hammerjv | let it recreate them when I restart kde? |
06:40.45 | Jucato | hammerjv: are you missing the whole panel at the bottom? or just the list of tasks/windows? |
06:40.52 | hammerjv | the whole panel |
06:41.46 | Jucato | you can also just add a new blank panel and re-add all the widgets back (6-7 widgets at most) |
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06:42.30 | Jucato | dunno if Alt+F2, "killall plasma-desktop" (which will abruptly kill plasma) and then Alt+F2, "plasma-desktop" will restore it |
06:42.37 | Jucato | (you can try, but no promises) |
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07:01.57 | Speedy2 | Hey all. Is KDE 4.3 lacking any major features from KDE 3.5x? I tried using Kate in 4.2 (IIRC) and found it was lacking a lot of code highlighting and other important features that were present in the 3.5x versions of Kate. |
07:02.17 | hammerjv | all that helped just a minute ago thanks |
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07:03.53 | troy | hammerjv: yw |
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07:04.07 | troy | Speedy2: should work - not sure that anything major regressed in kate in 4.x |
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07:04.20 | troy | Speedy2: you might be missing some plugins due to distro package reoganization |
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07:32.13 | word | wrong window >_< |
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08:37.54 | TobiG | does anyone know where the networkmanager plasmoid got moved ? /trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets/networkmanager is empty |
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08:47.47 | Torch | TobiG: try kdereview |
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08:51.05 | TobiG | thx Torch |
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10:29.05 | leleobhz | Hello! |
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10:31.15 | leleobhz | Ive installed kde4 FreeBSD ports, and i got a terribly unstable system, without phonon configuration, without id3 support on juk, w/o Device manager/Network Manager/Bluetooth manager, with graphics errors (This is a xorg issue, but i dont know if i did something wrong), user manager dont support FBSD8 (And FBSD6 support dont work) and i didnt tested everything yet |
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10:31.58 | Torch | leleobhz: this sounds more like an isseu for a freebsd support channel, does it not? |
10:32.07 | leleobhz | i did the installation with "portmaster /usr/ports/x11/kde4" and the compilation got aborted sometimes (but run again made it works) |
10:32.16 | leleobhz | Torch: i really dont know where to ask |
10:32.28 | leleobhz | because i think is a install isue |
10:32.31 | Torch | leleobhz: people here won't be able to help you with that |
10:32.34 | leleobhz | and freebsd.kde.org dont help a lot |
10:32.50 | Torch | leleobhz: try a general freebsd channel |
10:32.53 | leleobhz | i did the procedure of http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php |
10:33.08 | leleobhz | i will also |
10:33.49 | Torch | leleobhz: there's #kde-freebsd |
10:33.53 | leleobhz | Torch: i think its very strange because i never seen this happening with kde (My desktop runs 4.4 from kubuntu-beta and works very very stable and well) |
10:34.08 | leleobhz | Torch: ! i dont know this. Ill try ask there |
10:34.12 | leleobhz | Torch: thanks a lot! |
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10:40.42 | Paddy_NI | Hello not sure if I am in the correct place but I am trying to use network-manager-gnome in kde 4 would anyone know of a guide for doing this? |
10:41.27 | Torch | Paddy_NI: they have this thing called nm-applet in gnome. just run it. it will show up in your kde4 system tray. |
10:41.43 | Paddy_NI | Torch, yeah mate I tried that |
10:41.46 | Paddy_NI | no joy |
10:41.48 | Paddy_NI | :( |
10:42.14 | Paddy_NI | I had to remove the kde plasma network manager widget |
10:42.22 | Paddy_NI | Plasmoid rather |
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10:42.33 | Paddy_NI | no I have no network manager at all :( |
10:42.36 | Paddy_NI | *know |
10:42.48 | Kolia | Paddy_NI: install wicd |
10:42.56 | Torch | Paddy_NI: sure you haven't set the nm-applet to be hidden in the systray by mistake? |
10:43.07 | Paddy_NI | Kolia, tried that.. it failed saying no network connection |
10:43.16 | Paddy_NI | Torch, oh.. good point |
10:43.21 | Kolia | really? wow, wicd is generally extremely reliable |
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10:43.37 | Kolia | you must have a real problem |
10:43.53 | Torch | Paddy_NI: anyway, this is obviously not the channel to discuss problems with nm-applet. |
10:44.06 | Torch | (or network-manager or wicd) |
10:44.10 | Paddy_NI | Kolia, yes I love wicd but it could not install it as it removed the networking components connecting me to the net in the first place :) |
10:44.41 | Paddy_NI | should have used an ethernet cable I know |
10:44.42 | Paddy_NI | :P |
10:45.07 | Paddy_NI | Torch, under kde it kinda would be |
10:45.22 | Torch | Paddy_NI: no. |
10:46.22 | Paddy_NI | the lack of ability to connect to a hidden wireless network or my mobile broadband using kde's network manager and being told on kde's site to use gnomes network manager does not qualify? |
10:46.33 | Paddy_NI | ok |
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10:51.00 | Paddy_NI | Are kde officially doing there own netbook version? |
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10:52.33 | thiago | Paddy_NI: yes |
10:52.37 | thiago | there is a plasma-netbook |
10:52.43 | Paddy_NI | nice one |
10:52.46 | cb400f | Paddy_NI: kde 4.4 will have plasma-netbook.. which is an interface especially for small screens |
10:52.50 | cb400f | if that's what you mean |
10:52.57 | Paddy_NI | sounds good to me |
10:53.11 | Kolia | i checked it yesterday for the first time.. and this is very nice |
10:53.14 | Paddy_NI | highly portable beauty :D |
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11:02.06 | Paddy_NI | Has the kde global menu bar been ported to kde 4 yet? |
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11:24.16 | mlankhorst | All the colors I can select in a color theme are opaque, would it be possible to select alpha too? I bet it would make a nice color theme, similar to the transparant taskbar |
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11:32.42 | Paddy_NI | mlankhorst, Yeah it would be nice to have a Plasma air like theme for QT apps |
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11:40.54 | mlankhorst | wonders how hard it would be to write |
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11:46.41 | simion314 | <PROTECTED> |
11:53.10 | mlankhorst | True, but it would be nice to see if it could work for some well-behaved applications |
11:53.50 | mlankhorst | and then just disable for the non-qt apps |
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11:57.34 | simion314 | mlankhorst: you can try buillding a basic application some butons,labels,listview and play with the transparecy and see if the app is still usable: you can read the text from the buttons,labels |
11:58.16 | mlankhorst | er not transparant as in you just set the whole window to 50%, but transparant in the way taskbar is. |
11:59.02 | mlankhorst | the background being 50%, but all the foreground items all 100% |
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12:25.21 | kjetilkWork | I'm on Ubuntu Karmic with 4.3.4 backports, and I'm having trouble syncing KAddressbook with a Zimbra install |
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12:26.53 | kjetilkWork | the setup should be pretty straightforward, use LDAP: |
12:27.12 | kjetilkWork | I'm on Ubuntu Karmic with 4.3.4 backports, and I'm having trouble syncing KAddressbookhttp://wiki.zimbra.com/index.php?title=Mail_Client_LDAP_Configurahttp://wiki.zimbra.com/index.php?title=Mail_Client_LDAP_Configuration#Kontact.2FKaddresshttp://wiki.zimbra.com/index.php?title=Mail_Client_LDAP_Cohttp://wiki.zimbra.com/index.php?title=Mail_Client_LDAP_Configuration#Kontact.2FKaddressbooknfiguration#Kontact.2FKaddressbookbooktion#Kontact. |
12:27.13 | kjetilkWork | 2FKaddressbookk with a Zimbra install |
12:27.28 | kjetilkWork | err, what? sorry about that |
12:28.42 | kjetilkWork | Anyway, I'm getting an error: http://pastebin.ca/1765073 |
12:29.02 | kjetilkWork | the critical piece seems to be this: |
12:29.07 | kjetilkWork | ldap://kjetil.kjernsmo@ms1.startsiden.no:389ou=People, |
12:29.20 | kjetilkWork | there seems to be a / missing in that URI |
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12:29.41 | tuxick | where? |
12:29.44 | kjetilkWork | or is this not critical, is there something else? |
12:29.53 | kjetilkWork | between 389 and ou |
12:32.22 | kjetilkWork | I can see several ways that this may not be the problem, but it seems very suspecious... |
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12:39.01 | caf4926 | anyone here been trying the search and launch contaiment for the desktop |
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12:42.56 | kjetilkWork | nevermind my question, I just needed use it anonymously |
12:43.21 | caf4926 | see the 3 launchers above the search field: http://www.imagebam.com/image/e9d90765041001 |
12:43.53 | caf4926 | How come you can remove them and not add them |
12:44.23 | caf4926 | and they can randomly just disapear |
12:44.34 | caf4926 | kde4.4 RC2 |
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13:32.45 | nodie | how can I configure kde 4.3.1 so I have desktop icons like in kde 3 ? |
13:33.02 | nodie | I mean full screen, not a little window showing some directory |
13:33.10 | ajax1 | how can i install kde4 for fedora 12? |
13:33.24 | Torch | nodie: right click on desktop -> desktop settings -> activity type -> folder view |
13:33.37 | Torch | ajax1: ask on #fedora |
13:33.45 | ajax1 | is it better than 3.5? |
13:33.57 | Torch | ajax1: yes. |
13:34.34 | ajax1 | only in user interface or what?* |
13:36.05 | Torch | ajax1: there have been thousands of reviews over the last two years of KDE4. |
13:36.22 | nodie | thanks Torch :) |
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13:44.27 | dziadu | hi |
13:45.12 | dziadu | do you have problem with compiling korganizer because of missing libkorganizer_calendar.so? |
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13:58.25 | ld50 | dziadu: trunk and branch 4.4 no |
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14:00.47 | dziadu | ld50: thx |
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14:05.36 | Illusioneer | is away: Gone away for now |
14:06.24 | aerly | Hi. I have trouble configuring gwenview. I want to use mouse wheel to go to next/previous picture, but when I try to scroll the mouse during key setup dialog, I get nothing. |
14:06.29 | Illusioneer | is back. |
14:07.17 | Torch | aerly: this can be configured in settings -> configure -> image view |
14:07.54 | aerly | Thanks, Torch ;) |
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16:02.40 | edgy | Hi, I am sitting in front of a Konsole where it's sticked on the top left corner and I cannot more it to any place by clicking on the title bar or using alt and dragging it with the mouse, how can I remove this configuration? |
16:05.10 | Torch | edgy: you can however move other windows? |
16:05.22 | edgy | Torch: yes sure |
16:05.50 | Torch | edgy: kill konsole and start it again |
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16:07.20 | edgy | Torch: I did but when I start it, same problem happens, now i noticed it's started on All Desktops, how can I tell it to start in one desktop only? |
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16:08.34 | edgy | ok I now figured it out. it's an option the desktop effects window ;) |
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16:10.08 | Torch | edgy: i guess kwin is responsible for that. |
16:10.08 | Torch | edgy: hmm? |
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16:11.59 | edgy | Torch: yes seems so. There is 'Window-specific" option on those effects window which is set for konsole specific options like position and geometry |
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16:13.18 | Torch | edgy: that's what i meant regarding kwin. these should not make the window un-movable, though. |
16:13.19 | Jucato | Window Specific Settings/Rules aren't really tied to desktop effects. they are applied regardless whether desktop effects are enabled/working or not |
16:13.44 | edgy | Jucato: aha |
16:14.04 | edgy | Torch: it's unmovable because it sets the app to be displayed in all desktops may be |
16:14.24 | edgy | Torch: or may be because it hard code the position to 0.0 |
16:14.30 | Jucato | the latter |
16:14.38 | Jucato | pinning on all desktops doesn't make it unmovable |
16:15.00 | Jucato | (you can click the circle beside the window title name to turn that on/off. the window should still be able to move) |
16:16.13 | Torch | i didn't know you could force window to a position and thus make it non-movable... just tried it out. that's crazy ;-) |
16:16.58 | Torch | edgy: you got your problem with konsole fixed now? |
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16:20.05 | opensourcecat | hi all. Just moved .kde4/share/config/kmail* and .kde4/share/apps/kmail* to a new home but while kmail starts with all accounts and emails from the previous install i get missing identities! What do i have to copy to carry previously configured identities? |
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16:21.17 | Jucato | opensourcecat: ~/.kde/share/config/emailidentities |
16:21.35 | Jucato | (basically *mail* :) |
16:21.38 | opensourcecat | Jucato: tnx |
16:21.45 | kdepepo | opensourcecat, and config/mailtransports probably :) |
16:23.07 | opensourcecat | i'v got only mailtransports, tere's no mailidentities on the old config/! how is that possible? |
16:23.24 | kdepepo | *e*mailidentities |
16:23.31 | opensourcecat | ok |
16:23.38 | kdepepo | its also in share/apps |
16:24.44 | opensourcecat | i fount it in config/ |
16:24.53 | opensourcecat | copied email* and mail* |
16:25.20 | opensourcecat | everything is in place now |
16:25.24 | kdepepo | apps != config, you probably need to copy both |
16:25.24 | opensourcecat | many thansk |
16:26.10 | opensourcecat | ok |
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16:27.07 | opensourcecat | there's nothing called [e]mail in apps/... |
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16:49.38 | Izinucs | I've got a couple kmail questions.... how do I get "Reply's" to start my reply on Top of the previous message instead of the bottom? Also, how do I get forwards to "Quote" the text instead of "Attaching" the previous email? |
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16:51.52 | del_diablo | What was the command for forcing the bugged down 4.3.* to refresh its options? |
16:52.48 | Torch | del_diablo: what do you mean? |
16:53.05 | Jucato | kbuildsycoca4? |
16:53.33 | Torch | Izinucs: the forward-button is a menu. there's forward inline in there. |
16:54.09 | Torch | Izinucs: the outlook-express-style-reply you describe is probably not possible to protect the innocent. |
16:54.10 | del_diablo | Torch: The bug of options and stuff not refreshing properly. The settings in the menu is not refreshing(its not detecting gstreamer!) |
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16:55.10 | Izinucs | Torch: protect the innocent? I'm not sure I quite understand that.. I know it's not typically considered "conventional" but some who I email expect it that way. :( |
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16:55.50 | Torch | Izinucs: you mean you want kmail to behave in a broken and stupid way because you know people used to broken and stupid software? |
16:56.24 | Torch | Izinucs: anyway, pointless discussion. i don't think it's possible. |
16:56.29 | Izinucs | Torch: don't be harsh or demeaning.. |
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16:58.48 | Izinucs | Torch: I'm just looking for options so my messages to less enlightened, non-technical individuals don't lose my reply by not looking at the bottom of an email.. |
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17:13.49 | marcosRz | Guys how can I change my icons to gree, I tried changing on kde and I got this --> http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8994/snapshot1lu.png |
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17:16.14 | marcosRz | anyone knows how to change this? |
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17:18.50 | Torch | marcosRz: hmm, how did you do that? |
17:21.04 | shivam | torch : he did System settings > appearance > icons > advanced > desktop > set effect > colorise |
17:21.14 | QwertyM | marcosRz: click "Set effect" under that green folder icon, change the colorize value |
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17:21.37 | QwertyM | or set to no effect, of course.. |
17:22.02 | Torch | shivam: never heard of that ;-) |
17:22.08 | marcosRz | hm???????????? |
17:22.17 | Jucato | Torch: since KDE 3 :) |
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17:22.22 | KiRiLoS | QwertyM, what he wants is to make the folder Green,not reverse what he did. |
17:22.27 | marcosRz | I want gree folders |
17:22.33 | marcosRz | *green folder but normal icons |
17:22.35 | Torch | Jucato: never _wanted_ to so sth like that ... not even in kde3 ;-) |
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17:22.43 | Torch | marcosRz: edit the svg file |
17:22.44 | QwertyM | marcosRz: ah |
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17:23.16 | Jucato | Torch: you're just not adventurous |
17:23.18 | Jucato | (or insane) |
17:23.19 | Jucato | (or both) |
17:23.23 | marcosRz | ? |
17:23.43 | Torch | Jucato: i'm old and boring. just say it ;-) |
17:24.36 | Torch | ahh, that's for distinguishing between active, default and disabled... |
17:24.41 | Torch | makes sense. |
17:25.46 | Jucato | marcosRz: the only way I can think of: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> File Associations -> go to inode/directory and click on the folder icon. set it to a green folder icon |
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17:26.01 | Jucato | (you can find one under the Places category) |
17:26.24 | marcosRz | oh |
17:26.25 | marcosRz | cool |
17:26.29 | marcosRz | I" m going to try |
17:27.33 | marcosRz | I' ll wait a lil I posted this question on kde forums. |
17:27.43 | marcosRz | If I don' t find a easier way I' ll do that |
17:28.00 | Jucato | doesn't think there is any other way ;) |
17:28.11 | KiRiLoS | damn this simple thing shouldnt be that hard |
17:28.37 | Torch | marcosRz: what's wrong with the solution Jucato suggested? |
17:29.10 | marcosRz | Torch: If I change theme, for example |
17:29.17 | marcosRz | icon theme |
17:29.32 | Torch | marcosRz: then what? |
17:29.36 | marcosRz | and theres a bunch of icons there not a green folder |
17:29.41 | marcosRz | for example network |
17:29.43 | marcosRz | and so on |
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17:29.58 | marcosRz | Torch: when I change on mime, I "hardcode" |
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17:30.43 | Torch | marcosRz: well, either you want to overwrite what the icon set has as a folder icon or you don't. you need to make a choice here, really. |
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17:32.32 | KiRiLoS | i dont really get how color changes the way Jucato suggested.That's for changing the whole icon or I am just missing something?:P |
17:33.15 | marcosRz | well KiRiLoS he suggested for us to go on mymetipes (sytem->adv->fileassociation) and change the folder there |
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17:33.51 | KiRiLoS | i went there,and from what i understand you change the whole folder icon,not the color of it |
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17:34.07 | marcosRz | yes |
17:34.16 | Jucato | you just can't simply change the color of a single kind of icon by simply modifying a setting. |
17:34.39 | KiRiLoS | yeah,so far i realised that. |
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17:34.52 | vinnie_ | whats the process viewing app for kde? |
17:35.00 | Jucato | it's not a "simple thing that shouldn't be hard" |
17:35.00 | cb400f | ksysguard |
17:35.05 | cb400f | or press ctrl+esc |
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17:35.39 | vinnie_ | cb400f: thanx |
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17:39.45 | Torch | KiRiLoS: and the blue folder icon exists in a green variant... |
17:40.09 | Fieldy | hi, i'm using kde 4.unknown (kind of stuck at the moment), my system was acting up so i tried the sysreq sync command (ctl+alt+sysreq+s) and the kde menu and taskbar and desktops display on the bottom of the screen disappeared. is there some key combo to get it back? Doing that sequence again doesn't bring it back. |
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17:41.09 | Torch | Fieldy: run plasma-desktop from a shell |
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17:41.19 | Torch | Fieldy: or from alt+f2 if that works. |
17:41.32 | Fieldy | alright. yeah i was just checking that, nothing with "plasma" is running. one would think it'd restart brb |
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17:41.50 | Vamp898 | hi, little question. Neither in KDE 4.4 RC1 nor in RC2 is the Menu for Akonadi in Systemsettings and i have a problem. When i start KMail, KMail starts akonadi and akonadi runs in background after KMail is closed. With a lot of processes, lot of memory usage and CPU usage |
17:42.25 | MrHales | Greetings, all. Try as I might, I do not seem to be asking Google the right question and former knowledge has evaporated from my brain... so, I remember doing a bit of copying and editing on another app's .desktop file in order to integrate installed software into all users' menus... I can't remember where to put them. |
17:42.29 | Fieldy | there we go. thanks Torch. any idea if that key sequence had anything to do with it? all it's supposed to do is force the kernel to write all pending disk writes immediately. |
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17:42.32 | Vamp898 | so i have to kill every akonadi process by hand (which is quite fast and easy with the systemmonitor) but its annoying |
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17:43.18 | Torch | Fieldy: i know what a sysrq is. no, that hasn't directly affected that. something else on your system was probably wrong too. |
17:43.37 | Torch | MrHales: /usr/share/applications/kde4 |
17:43.46 | Fieldy | curious. i'll have to be on the lookout for it again |
17:43.49 | MrHales | Torch: Many thanks. :-) |
17:44.10 | Fieldy | didn't know about alt-F2, i already had a terminal open elsewhere (able to get to it by mousing to the upper-left corner), but that's good to know |
17:44.26 | Torch | Fieldy: that's the krunner... many great features. |
17:44.38 | MrHales | Torch: You are my personal hero and will be so for at least an hour. |
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17:46.24 | rdieter | Vamp898: you using akonadi-1.3.0 ? (If not, upgrade) |
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17:47.11 | Vamp898 | rdieter yes im using akonadi 1.3.0 |
17:47.34 | Vamp898 | and KDE 4.4 RC2 right now |
17:47.43 | rdieter | ok, prior versions had threading deadlocks (wrt nepomuk) |
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17:48.28 | Vamp898 | i thought maybe i can setup kmail to stop akonadi server after its closed |
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17:52.24 | noe | hi, after upgrate to 4.4 rc2 I cannot logout, reboot, shutdown etc using kde |
17:52.45 | brot | noe: ensure kdm works like it should |
17:52.47 | Torch | noe: you're logging in with kdm? |
17:53.39 | pinotree | logout should always be possible though, no matter which DM (or none) |
17:53.51 | Torch | pinotree: you're right, of course |
17:55.11 | Vamp898 | neo which distribution? |
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17:55.26 | noe | I'm using kdm |
17:55.35 | noe | gentoo |
17:55.54 | brot | ah |
17:55.57 | brot | :) |
17:56.14 | Vamp898 | hmmm dont know about the situation on Gentoo^^ sry |
17:56.15 | brot | tried restarting kdm? |
17:56.21 | noe | in .xsession-erros i got "plasma-desktop(2464)/plasma LockOut::clickLogout: LockOut:: logout clicked" |
17:56.28 | brot | your "forgingSeed" may have changed. |
17:57.11 | noe | and nothing happens |
17:57.22 | noe | i got also consolekit running |
17:57.33 | brot | noe: works for me. |
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17:57.40 | brot | you may want to ask in #gentoo-kde :) |
17:57.44 | Vamp898 | noe maybe restart kdm (and consolekit too) as brot said |
17:57.59 | noe | i rebooted computer |
17:58.09 | noe | and it didn;t help |
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17:58.48 | Vamp898 | it does not seem to be KDE related so maybe you want to ask in #gentoo-kde as brot said (again xD) |
17:59.17 | noe | ok, thanks |
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18:09.17 | Vamp898 | ok i tested a bit but i dont get it |
18:09.31 | Vamp898 | everytime when i start KMail it starts akonadi and akonadi stays in background after KMail is closed |
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18:13.59 | Vamp898 | hmmm i think i just use akonadi tray. With that i can start/stop akonadi easy |
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18:23.03 | jillsmitt | i have problems with window decoration effects - shadow (or this white effect around window border) how to disable it? kde 4.3.4 |
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18:35.16 | EGD | hm |
18:35.22 | EGD | hello |
18:35.47 | EGD | How me create C project in KDevelop 4? |
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18:37.55 | cb400f | EGD: /j #kdevelop |
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18:38.40 | EGD | cb400f, true |
18:38.50 | edgy | Torch: sorry I was away. yes my problem is fixed now |
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18:39.01 | edgy | Torch: thanks for your care |
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19:24.34 | foormea | hi |
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19:26.58 | foormea | i'm using kubuntu on an eeepc 1201n that has ION chipset. i have no sound when playing a movie with vlc or mplayer, but i have sound when using dragon player. apparently it's related to pulseaudio, as i get this error message with mplayer: AO: [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused |
19:27.43 | foormea | in system settings/multimedia, i see the following 'devices': hda nvidia (alc269 analog) ; hda nvidia, nvidia hdmi (hdmi audio output) ; pulseaudio |
19:27.56 | foormea | when trying the sound on pulseaudio, i get a message that says that pulseaudio doesn't work |
19:28.30 | spectral | ask in #kubuntu on how to get access to pulseaudio.. your user must be in some special group for that most likely.. |
19:28.42 | foormea | mplayer -ao alsa doesn't give any sound |
19:28.44 | foormea | spectral: ok |
19:29.13 | foormea | anyway, shouldn't there be no pulseaudio on my system? i thought kde comes with arts, which replaces pulseaudio? |
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19:31.13 | spectral | eh artsd is deprecated since 4.x |
19:31.43 | foormea | oh ok. i know pretty much nothing about sound |
19:31.46 | foormea | :0 |
19:31.48 | foormea | :) |
19:32.02 | spectral | yes it's a bit of a cluster*beep* in linux |
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19:34.42 | mbana | why doesn't konsole use SHIFT+<ARROW> for moving to different tabs |
19:34.46 | mbana | it's highly annoying |
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19:34.55 | spectral | it does |
19:37.52 | zhick | it does for me as well |
19:39.10 | troy | mbana: it does here too (kde 4.4) |
19:39.21 | troy | mbana: maybe your distro changed something ? |
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19:40.24 | mbana | sorry, inverse |
19:40.30 | mbana | why does it do that |
19:40.47 | mbana | counter-intuitive |
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19:43.55 | spectral | configure shortcuts? |
19:44.41 | troy | mbana: well, normally shift+arrow is reserved for text selection, but on a console this doesn't happen - so we simply borrowed the shortcut |
19:44.50 | troy | mbana: what would you consider the intuitive way? |
19:45.03 | spectral | ctrl+tab for me would be intuitive |
19:45.20 | spectral | or ctrl+shift+tab for the opposite direction.. |
19:45.44 | troy | ctrl-tab already means something in kde, last I checked |
19:45.52 | troy | oh, maybe it used to |
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19:46.08 | troy | in kde 1.x, it was mapped to switch desktops - I wonder when that stopped... |
19:46.16 | troy | doesn't use virtual desktops |
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19:49.54 | mbana | troy: i use emacs in the console |
19:50.11 | JohnWelborn | If I want to modify the default kde window behavior for new users, where can I find that config file? Specifically "System Settings->Window Behavior->Window Actions->Modifier Key" |
19:50.52 | troy | mbana: ah - having never once used emacs, it wouldn't have occurred to me :) |
19:50.52 | spectral | using emacs is counter intuitive |
19:51.08 | troy | uses kate since 2.x, and vi before that |
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19:55.06 | Torch | JohnWelborn: alt is the default |
19:55.13 | Torch | JohnWelborn: so if there is no config kwin uses alt. |
19:55.33 | Torch | JohnWelborn: in your case you could add a kwinrc to /etc/skel with meta as command key |
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19:58.47 | JohnWelborn | Torch: so that would be the CommandAllKey line in my kwinrc that needs to go into /etc/skel/kwinrc? |
19:58.58 | troy | JohnWelborn: there's default settings in /usr/share/kde4/config or similar, depending on where your distro installs it |
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19:59.05 | Torch | JohnWelborn: you need a) the file b) the section c) the setting |
19:59.15 | Torch | JohnWelborn: and it's etc/skel/.kde/share/config/kwinrc |
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19:59.27 | Torch | troy: ah, good point |
20:00.01 | troy | those are the systemwide defaults, which don't require installing from skel or similar to take effect |
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20:00.22 | JohnWelborn | troy: using Foresight, I don't see it in that location |
20:01.28 | Torch | JohnWelborn: $ kde4-config --install config |
20:02.18 | JohnWelborn | Torch: /etc/kde4 , but I don't see a config or kwinrc in there |
20:02.30 | troy | yeah, create a kwinrc there - copy the one from your userdir to use as a template if you want |
20:02.32 | Torch | JohnWelborn: create it, then |
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20:02.57 | troy | kde evaluates the system kwinrc before the user kwinrc, so the user kwinrc can override defaults |
20:03.06 | JohnWelborn | Torch: troy: Thanks! |
20:03.23 | troy | but you can use $ signs to set certain settings as immutable if you don't want users to be able to change them |
20:03.42 | JohnWelborn | troy: good to know, thanks |
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20:19.43 | aliendude3500 | Why the heck is the Desktop a folder by default? How can I change that? |
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20:21.19 | sreich | either plasma toolbox->desktop settings, or right click |
20:21.55 | sreich | it's probably the default because it's better. as opposed to that ol' method from decades ago ;-) |
20:22.13 | aliendude3500 | is new to KDE, where can I find the plasma toolbox? Is it the thing on the right of the folder? |
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20:27.21 | aliendude3500 | gah! This is so confusing! How can anyone use KDE? :( |
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20:30.05 | sreich | aliendude3500: calm down, it isn't *that* confusing. it just takes some getting used to, as does anything new... |
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20:30.26 | sreich | aliendude3500: most tend to call it the "cashew". |
20:30.28 | devilsadvocate | aliendude3500, the desktop has always been a folder ... |
20:30.40 | sreich | should be at the top-right of the screen, depending. |
20:30.50 | aliendude3500 | I still have a floating folder as my Desktop. I just want icons like in GNOME. |
20:30.52 | devilsadvocate | aliendude3500, always, on all operating systems i've ever used |
20:31.06 | sreich | devilsadvocate: hm...maybe I misunderstood his question? :D |
20:31.15 | sreich | or read into it too much? |
20:31.36 | devilsadvocate | aliendude3500, the right click on the desktop, desktop settings, type -> folder view |
20:31.57 | aliendude3500 | ...Desktop Activity settings? |
20:31.57 | devilsadvocate | sreich, probably got used to defending the folder view paradigm :D |
20:32.07 | aliendude3500 | There is no "Desktop Settings" |
20:32.12 | sreich | devilsadvocate: hehe |
20:32.15 | devilsadvocate | aliendude3500, no, desktop settings, where you change wallpapers and stuff |
20:32.16 | sreich | aliendude3500: same thing |
20:32.41 | devilsadvocate | or maybe they're the same thing |
20:32.49 | aliendude3500 | oh my god... that was so hidden... 0.o |
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20:33.01 | devilsadvocate | :\ |
20:33.16 | kdepepo | aliendude3500, where would you expect that setting |
20:33.16 | devilsadvocate | aliendude3500, thats like 3 clicks |
20:33.31 | aliendude3500 | Desktop Activity Settings > Activity > Type > Folder View... just to make my desktop not floating? Dang... |
20:33.59 | devilsadvocate | is this desktop activity settings something new? |
20:34.05 | devilsadvocate | just has desktop settings |
20:34.13 | kdepepo | devilsadvocate, 4.4 |
20:34.14 | Torch | devilsadvocate: brushed up in 4.4 |
20:34.17 | aliendude3500 | It's not logically located. I would've NEVER guessed to look there. Usually, I can just work with any environment and find someting based on where I expect it to be... not so much in KDE. It's so different. |
20:34.19 | devilsadvocate | ah |
20:34.40 | kdepepo | aliendude3500, this doesn't answer where you would expect it |
20:35.34 | mbana | how do i turn off the sounds |
20:35.36 | mbana | it's annoying |
20:36.04 | kdepepo | mbana, login sound? |
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20:36.38 | mbana | kdepepo: no every sound |
20:36.51 | devilsadvocate | mbana, mute your speakers? :\ |
20:37.00 | mbana | it makes a sound when i open a tab in chrome |
20:37.01 | mbana | etc. |
20:37.08 | mbana | it's not specific to chrome |
20:37.10 | kdepepo | mbana, chrome is no KDE app. |
20:37.29 | kdepepo | mbana, are you using compiz? |
20:37.31 | Torch | mbana: system settings -> notifications -> player settings -> no audio output |
20:37.35 | devilsadvocate | mbana, chrome, firefox and pidgin on *buntu? |
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20:37.39 | mbana | kdepepo: yes compiz |
20:37.49 | kdepepo | mbana, maybe your compiz makes noise... |
20:39.57 | mbana | kdepepo: how did u figure that |
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20:41.24 | Knuthy | Hi |
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20:44.00 | Torch | hi Knuthy |
20:44.16 | QwertyM | Can I apply transparency to the kwin decoration parts of windows alone? |
20:45.20 | mbana | ? |
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20:48.45 | Half-Left | QwertyM: If you mean the buttons then no. |
20:49.03 | kdepepo | QwertyM, systemsettings > Desktop > Effects > All Effects > Translucency |
20:49.51 | kdepepo | Half-Left, both Aurorae and deKorator support ARGB themes. |
20:50.02 | Half-Left | Yep |
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20:51.59 | Half-Left | kdepepo: But I think the question was about just the window frame and not the buttons.Desktop Effects just make the whole frame translucent, even the buttons on it |
20:52.15 | mbana | kdepepo: how did u figure that |
20:52.29 | kdepepo | mbana, what? |
20:52.39 | mbana | mbana, are you using compiz? |
20:53.06 | kdepepo | mbana, was that your problem with sounds? :) |
20:53.13 | mbana | yes |
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20:53.32 | kdepepo | mbana, well, KDE does not make annoying sounds, so it had to be some non KDE stuff... |
20:54.31 | kdepepo | Half-Left, the question was about the "decoration part" of the window, not "parts of decorations". |
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20:55.56 | kdepepo | Half-Left, there is transparency in the KWin menu, but that affects whole window, and people often don't know about the separate translucency plugin. |
20:56.10 | Half-Left | The person hasn't answered anyway |
20:56.43 | kdepepo | he is speechless about all the options offered there ;) |
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20:57.23 | Half-Left | Probably :p |
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20:58.24 | Computer | do you think that Amarok and KDE would work okay on a computer with an AMD Duron 750Mhz and 384MB of RAM? |
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20:58.42 | Computer | or should i go with something less fancy |
20:59.18 | Half-Left | Computer: That would be a struggle I think |
20:59.33 | kdepepo | If you dont run anything else, it should work. |
20:59.44 | Half-Left | but slowish |
21:00.26 | kdepepo | you should disable KWin compositing, Nepomuk, and all Akonadi stuff. |
21:00.36 | Half-Left | 512mb of ram is recommended |
21:00.37 | kdepepo | Those are the biggest memory killers |
21:01.43 | Computer | this is useful information, kdepepo |
21:01.58 | Half-Left | Amarok2 can use 60mb+ so that's why more than any of thoses |
21:02.06 | Half-Left | way* |
21:04.27 | kdepepo | I sometimes boot with 256 MB memory limit (kernel option), and a basic KDE desktop still works. That would leave some 100+ free for Amarok. |
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21:12.25 | deever | hi |
21:12.37 | deever | http://filebin.ca/dcvwhy |
21:12.56 | deever | why does kaffeine not start or even crash? |
21:14.46 | thrice` | deever, can you paste "ldd /usr/bin/kaffiene" ? |
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21:15.24 | thrice` | (not in here, but to pastebin.ca) |
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21:16.07 | kdepepo | maybe delete kaffeinerc... it looks like it crashes when reading that file. |
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21:20.34 | QwertyM | kdepepo: perfect, thanks |
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21:23.02 | deever | thrice`: http://pastebin.com/d281945d5 |
21:23.30 | lxsameer_ | hi , how can i make a service menu for KDE , and bind it to a mime type |
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21:24.48 | rindolf | Hi all! |
21:24.59 | rindolf | http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-7616 - I reported this bug in Qt today that affects VLC - can anyone reproduce it with qt-4.6.1 on Linux/Unix? |
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21:27.59 | mahoutsukai | Hi all! Does anybody know where the certificate management (e.g. for SSL certificates in Konqueror) has gone? I don't see it in system settings. |
21:28.49 | Kolia | lxsameer_: have you checked on techbase.kde.org ? |
21:29.14 | thrice` | rindolf, does mandiva use a vanilla qt pull, or patched? |
21:29.19 | lxsameer_ | Kolia: no , but i'll do that thanks |
21:29.29 | rindolf | thrice`: patched. |
21:30.33 | thrice` | you've verified with vanilla qt? |
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21:32.10 | jillsmitt | is there firewall with qt-based interface? |
21:32.34 | jillsmitt | maybe iptables gui |
21:34.45 | rindolf | thrice`: no, not yet. |
21:34.52 | Half-Left | jillsmitt: Try kde-apps.org |
21:35.31 | thrice` | rindolf, ok, so - you have qt issues with mandriva's hacked version of qt? o-O |
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21:36.46 | rindolf | thrice`: don't know. |
21:36.46 | rindolf | thrice`: may be it's global to Qt. |
21:36.57 | rindolf | Almost every distribution has some downstream patches. |
21:37.08 | pinotree | rindolf: #qt |
21:37.18 | rindolf | pinotree: I'm already there. |
21:37.26 | pinotree | good |
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21:37.55 | thrice` | rindolf, I disagree quite a bit with that. patching the toolkits is not a regular practice |
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21:51.22 | nv4Phil | question... in kde3.5 I used to be able to load programs with "aoss ?????" to solve the problem of processes hogging the sound system, and not allowing eachother to emit sound ... but once I moved to kde4, I am back to the same problem. |
21:51.23 | nv4Phil | If I load, say... audacious... and listen to some music, I can't load firefox or opera and run youtube and get sound, without first closing audacious and restarting firefox. and vice versa.... what gives, here? |
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21:53.00 | Tm_T | nv4Phil: that has nothing to do with KDE though (: |
21:53.40 | nv4Phil | Tm_T: then, what might be my problem? I thought it was something about the way kde handled sound, my bad... |
21:53.58 | thrice` | flash is unique. what about audacious and amarok ? |
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21:54.54 | nv4Phil | I havent tried amarok before... I'm loading it now, will test and see |
21:55.06 | Tm_T | it all depends on device, drivers, what engine you are using (alsa/oss), possibly services like pulseaudio... |
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21:55.42 | thrice` | I might be off, but I thought flash used some nasty oss-type output |
21:56.33 | Tm_T | it does use old-style oss |
21:56.45 | nv4Phil | amarok just *totally* crashed on me, when attempting to add something to a playlist... so... I probably won't use amarok |
21:57.03 | thrice` | well, anything else that will surely uise alsa? :) |
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21:57.05 | Tm_T | and that doesn't play nicely with alsa unless you have something that supports multiple audio sources |
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21:57.54 | nv4Phil | Tm_T: in kde35 I used to be able to select from various engines, but how do I do that in kde4? |
21:58.13 | nv4Phil | I don't see anywhere to tell it alsa, oss, or anything like that |
21:59.21 | Half-Left | nv4Phil: It's done in systemsettings>Multimedia |
21:59.24 | Tm_T | nv4Phil: in your multimedia settings, there you can select device, that's also how you choose between alsa and oss |
21:59.45 | nv4Phil | and come to think of it, I also do not have any clue how to modify the items in the K menu to make them use those backends by running aoss or such... Used to be able to right click on the program and hit edit or something like that in kde35... I forget. but it wont let me do that in kde4 |
22:01.19 | nv4Phil | for backend, I see only a choice of gstreamer or xine... no oss, alsa, enlightened sound daemon (was that it?) or such... |
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22:01.54 | Half-Left | Those backends use Alsa or OSS |
22:03.12 | nv4Phil | well I've changed them before and not had any change in my problems... still have the same issue... one program hogs the sound from everything else on the system, and I have to kill that program and restart whatever else I wanted sound in, to get sound working again. |
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22:04.18 | nv4Phil | I've been doing it this way for several months, and it's getting on my nerves :-/ ... I didn't have to do that in kde35... I just told each program to start using aoss ... I seem to not have that ability anymore |
22:04.34 | Half-Left | nv4Phil: That would only happen if you have some other daemon running since all new KDE4 apps use Phonon and don't fight for sound |
22:05.13 | Half-Left | Or maybe Pulse Audio |
22:05.16 | nv4Phil | what are you calling "new kde4 apps" ... the apps I am using aren't built by kde |
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22:05.55 | Half-Left | Any app that doesn't use Phonon my interfere |
22:05.55 | troy | then, unless KDE is hogging the device (which it shouldn't), it doesn't seen to be a kde problem *shrug* |
22:06.01 | aseigo | nv4Phil: kde doesn't manage the sound. |
22:06.24 | aseigo | nv4Phil: kde 4 apps use phonon which uses whatever the system itself is configured for |
22:06.41 | aseigo | nv4Phil: unfortunately for all of us, some of those systems are not particularly ... good. but, yes, not something we can do much about |
22:06.55 | aseigo | nv4Phil: in kde 3 days, we used to ship our own sound server (arts) which did manage the sound |
22:07.24 | nv4Phil | hrm... that's interesting... so I suppose I should take my question to a linux support channel then? I thought it was still managed by kde and using artsd |
22:07.35 | aseigo | nv4Phil: this caused "but i can't access my sound card from app $FOO" issues for some people, and we didn't have the manpower to keep maintaining our own sound infrastructure separate from the operating system's own systems |
22:08.01 | aseigo | nv4Phil: artsd is kde3; we moved away from that in kde4. look in system settings to see what the media system is configured to used |
22:08.05 | troy | nv4Phil: arts gave everyone headaches, and was overkill for playing simple sounds (arts was designed to be a real mixer) |
22:08.22 | Half-Left | Hens, no sound daemon for KDE4 :) |
22:08.49 | troy | aseigo: we really missed you for karaoke at Camp KDE :/ |
22:08.58 | aseigo | nv4Phil: it should be listed in the multimedia control panel ;you can open the run command window (alt+f2) and type "multimedia" even :) |
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22:10.06 | nv4Phil | Alt+F2 just solved half of my headaches... I didn't know where in the hell the command window was, in kde4. in kde35 I could load it through the k menu... in kde4 I don't see that option |
22:10.30 | nv4Phil | so, I guess I need to take my sound questions to #slackware |
22:10.48 | troy | nv4Phil: the ##slackware folks are quite friendly :) |
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22:11.23 | troy | nv4Phil: sound works perfectly for me out of the box on slackware-current64, so it might be that you're just missing some package(s) |
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22:12.10 | nv4Phil | I'm using slack on a 32bit machine. but I didnt think there were different packages? |
22:12.17 | nv4Phil | must *be* differences. |
22:12.54 | troy | nv4Phil: well, it works for most other people out of the box as well *shrug*( |
22:15.28 | nv4Phil | ah who knows... nothing has ever worked for me, oobe, I dunno why |
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22:16.33 | troy | nv4Phil: well, but ##slackware a bit - they're usually helpful, and know more about the underlying components than I do :) |
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22:16.49 | nv4Phil | ok. |
22:16.57 | nv4Phil | thanks guys. |
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22:34.59 | SmatZ | ouch... someonetranslated "Output Search" to czech as "Output of Search" |
22:35.06 | deever | thrice`: ? |
22:35.28 | SmatZ | makes no sense :-/ |
22:35.35 | SmatZ | (in Konsole) |
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22:35.54 | pinotree | SmatZ: https://bugs.kde.org, i18n/cs ;) |
22:36.11 | SmatZ | pinotree: thanks :) |
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22:39.10 | pinotree | SmatZ: even those small bits help kde! |
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22:58.27 | SmatZ | pinotree: nice to see you care about details ;) anyway, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224259 |
22:59.09 | pinotree | SmatZ: reassigned to the correct team, thanks! |
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22:59.59 | SmatZ | pinotree: thanks for support :) |
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23:24.47 | troy | hey, so my screen keeps on blanking on me, and I want it to stop - I've found at least two places in kde that keep such settings, and changing either of them didn't help |
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23:25.01 | troy | first place: System Settings->Display; second place System Settings->Power Managerment |
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23:27.15 | Torch | troy: screen saver is also off? |
23:27.37 | troy | Torch: yep |
23:27.51 | troy | maybe I have xscreensaver running in the background or something :) |
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23:28.13 | Torch | troy: you're not the first with that particular problem, but usually it's powerdevil |
23:28.26 | Torch | troy: if you have that off, i'm not sure... maybe xscreensaver, yes. |
23:28.46 | troy | I told powerdevil not to touch my screen |
23:28.56 | troy | and it's blanking the screen, not powering it off |
23:30.07 | Torch | troy: log in via ssh and check what's going on ;-) |
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23:30.27 | troy | Torch: can't that machine is a non-networked machine :) it's connected to my tv |
23:30.43 | Torch | troy: ahh, sucks. |
23:30.51 | troy | Torch: I just use it for amarok and dvd's, mostly |
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23:35.18 | marcosRz | how do I sort the kde menu by app name? |
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23:37.56 | Jucato | marcosRz: right-click on K Menu icon -> Application Launcher Settings -> Show Applications by name |
23:38.10 | marcosRz | but it doesn sort |
23:38.12 | marcosRz | :( |
23:38.18 | marcosRz | I want it to be sorted |
23:38.22 | marcosRz | for isntance |
23:38.47 | marcosRz | Amarok is under Kmix |
23:38.55 | marcosRz | Kmix - Audio ... |
23:39.01 | marcosRz | Amarok - Multimedia Player |
23:39.03 | Jucato | hm? mine's sorted |
23:39.11 | marcosRz | mines not |
23:39.48 | Jucato | did you edit the menu at one point? (using the menu editor) |
23:39.56 | marcosRz | no |
23:40.09 | Jucato | weird |
23:40.16 | marcosRz | Qt: 4.5.2 |
23:40.17 | marcosRz | KDE: 4.3.2 (KDE 4.3.2) |
23:40.19 | marcosRz | kde4-config: 1.0 |
23:40.21 | marcosRz | maybe is that? |
23:41.27 | Jucato | maybe. though I can't really say. would be a good idea to update to the latest stable version (4.3.4) |
23:41.54 | marcosRz | its weird |
23:41.56 | marcosRz | :( |
23:42.03 | marcosRz | I hate a bunch of kde defaults behavior |
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23:42.07 | marcosRz | like "description" |
23:42.11 | marcosRz | and one click mouse |
23:42.15 | marcosRz | this should be baned XD |
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23:48.59 | marcosRz | one of the things |
23:49.03 | marcosRz | that I would l\ove to see |
23:49.11 | marcosRz | is a decent kde browser |
23:49.41 | Torch | marcosRz: please don't use newline as interpunctuation. makes the channel hard to read for everyone. |
23:49.49 | marcosRz | sure |
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23:50.04 | marcosRz | I've tried all "kde-qt" browsers :'( |
23:50.14 | marcosRz | None of them compares to firefox/chromium |
23:50.52 | kdepepo | marcosRz, because of missing plugins? |
23:51.11 | marcosRz | no, because they don't have any "modern" features |
23:51.22 | marcosRz | for example konqueror doesnt work right with any web 2.0 website |
23:51.31 | marcosRz | arora is quite fast but doesnt have plugins |
23:51.34 | marcosRz | the same goes for rekonq |
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23:51.56 | marcosRz | konqueror actually crashes a lot here on pure html websites :( |
23:52.35 | kdepepo | marcosRz, with JavaScript and Flash disabled I get no crashes (KDE trunk) |
23:53.04 | marcosRz | with JavaScript and Flash disabled you are on 1995 web |
23:53.10 | marcosRz | timemachine \o/ |
23:53.14 | kdepepo | you said "pure html" |
23:53.31 | marcosRz | actually I do get :) here on konqueror 4.3.4 |
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23:53.44 | kdepepo | url? |
23:53.47 | thrice` | just about every webkit browser I try crashes regularly |
23:53.49 | marcosRz | I've even submitted a bug |
23:53.59 | marcosRz | and it had about other 100 "me too" |
23:54.04 | marcosRz | kdepepo: let me remember |
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23:54.12 | marcosRz | I've the url in my gmail |
23:54.16 | marcosRz | going to use firefox of course |
23:54.46 | necrodearia | How can I configure windows to appear on the panel only for the desktop it belongs to and not all desktops? |
23:55.02 | loonyphoenix | Hi everybody! |
23:55.19 | loonyphoenix | I'm wondering if KIO is making use of ionice |
23:55.30 | Torch | necrodearia: right click on the task manager -> only show tasks from the current desktop |
23:55.35 | Torch | necrodearia: err.. |
23:55.48 | marcosRz | https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=bsp&ver=1qygpcgurkovy |
23:55.49 | Torch | necrodearia: right click on the task manager -> task manager settings -> only show tasks from the current desktop |
23:55.50 | marcosRz | opz |
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23:56.15 | necrodearia | hmm, I'm new to kde environment. Where do I access the task manager? |
23:56.15 | marcosRz | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208397 |
23:56.15 | troy | loonyphoenix: that's a good question |
23:56.41 | Torch | necrodearia: the task manager is the part of the panel that shows the windows. |
23:56.51 | loonyphoenix | troy: I would like to make KIO use idle ionice, if it doesn't... but I couldn't find any info on the internet |
23:56.57 | troy | loonyphoenix: might want to ask in #kde-devel - be polite, they're in the middle of a utf8 discussion :) |
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23:57.20 | loonyphoenix | troy: thanks, I'll do that :) |
23:57.21 | troy | necrodearia: CTRL-ESC |
23:57.32 | necrodearia | aha! |
23:57.48 | Torch | troy: huh? |
23:57.55 | troy | it's a nice task manager, if I must say so myself :) |
23:58.09 | troy | I'm particular fond of the tree-view sorting |
23:58.10 | Torch | troy: did i miss something? we're not looking for the process manager. |
23:58.31 | troy | Torch: in windows speak, that is the task manager :) |
23:58.38 | Torch | troy: hehe. |
23:58.56 | troy | oh, wait - I misinterpreted his question - should have scrolled up more |
23:59.04 | troy | he wants to change the task bar settings |
23:59.04 | Torch | troy: oh, really ;-)) |
23:59.10 | Torch | troy: oh... really? ;-)) |
23:59.22 | troy | yes, really! don't give me that lip :P |
23:59.33 | Torch | troy: still a nice process... err... task manager we have there ;-) |
23:59.53 | Torch | necrodearia: did you find the settings dialog? |